Moog Sub 37 Walkthrough - Oscillators, Filter and Envelopes Part 1 of 3 

Cheers, it's a lot of cash for most folks so I hoped a hands on experience would come in useful. Glad you liked it.

I’ve just bought a used Subsequent 37 CV which I’m assuming is basically / mostly the same as the Sub 37. So this three part series is MUCH appreciated! Thank you!!!

I sat there and fucked with it for an hour on presets just drooling. Ableton is where anything is done but this thing is magic to play.

+FunInWales Hah, I think I demoed the panel mode by accident at some point when trying to get an init patch! You're quite right the noise generator is analog, not sure what I said in the vid, I might have said it was digital, possibly getting confused with the Prophet 6 duh!! :)

No way!

Won't regret it. And they've maintained their price after 6 year too.

:) - brilliant! Got the patch cables on eBay - very useful for seeing whats going where!! - even more useful in looms

Yes.

Worth to spend a large part of my holiday money on for me :P

+Carmelo Ponente it’s an excellent choice :) thanks for the comment

+Grant Hoglund you need to tune the filter at a high resonance. Put reso full, turn off all other oscillators and put keytrack on 1:1. Now tune the cutoff so that the filter is in tune with Osc 1. Turn Osc 1 on to do this. The filter will be an octave or 2 higher (you can also tune like a drawbar and choose an interval -3rd, 5th etc). With a 1:1 keytrack setting the filter will track the keyboard perfectly. Once tuned mix Osc 1 into the mix - dead simple really but sounds really effective.

Glad to help.

The Sub37 is simple though!

Haha I hate hearing anything about Prodigys or is that Prodigies, Prodigii??? Since I lost one years ago -- don’t ask :(

Sorry for your loss. I've lost an instrument too, I can relate. I'm considering the Sub because the Prodigy is so limited anyway. Enjoy yours if you still play it, it is a great packed synth indeed. Cheers !

Cheers, happy to have helped.

Glad to be of assistance. And thanks for the wonderful comments - high praise indeed :)

Cringeworthy comment.

Glad you found it useful

Analog

@@StarskyCarr Thank you.

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+Michael Jenkins Hi, I'm not exactly sure what you're asking, i.e. do you want to play regular piano style sounds, or are you talking about polyphony (how many notes you can play at the same time)? If you want piano sounds, a DSI isn't for you, although you could use it as a controller for piano sounds from anything else (software, or sound modules). For more regular sounds (general midi etc, cellos, organs strings etc) there a loads of options, but I use software to cover these. If you're looking for polyphony you'll need a Prophet 6, 8 or 12. The Pro2 is monophonic (i.e. only one note at a time), or can play 2 notes in duo phonic mode - which is far from regular piano style playing. You'll also want a larger keyboard if you're playing with 2 hands! The Mopho SE is a monophonic Mopho with larger keyboard Mophox4 is 4 note polyphonic. If cash is tight ';d go of the P8. It is 8 note polyphonic (compared to the prophet 6's 6 notes) and can cover most of the ground of the P6 plus more. It's all there in my P6 vs P8 video series, but to summarise: P6 is simpler and has FX, P8 has no FX, is more complex but is cheaper. P8 also has a split mode for e.g. bass on left pads on the right and an octave more on the keyboard.

Initialise the patch - hold the init button. The velocity isn’t active yet. Press the button to access the 2nd functions of the ADSR controls (it’s between the 2 sets of ADSR knobs next to ‘Delay’. The sustain knobs now control the velocity amount going to either the filter or amp. If this doesn’t work check that the keybed is registering different velocities by looking at the MIDI input on your DAW - check the velocity of recorded notes.

Yeah I use it all the time. I have it set up as my main controller - all those knobs are great for controlling software etc. so the mute button is in more than it’s off tbh. Glad you liked the demo.

you can't. The USB isn't audio, just MIDI.

That doesn't sound right... it should behave like that

Wow… it’s 10 years old!!

@@StarskyCarr ok, you got me... I was invesitgating further and found out, that I got mine in end of 2014, so its 7 years only. but compared to the other devices on my desk, the moog feels "eternal" like it was always there and will be. and it reminds me to what an electronic "instrument" should be: easy playable.

and this is still the most useful tutorial after 10 years as well!

@@edstoica now it’s 10 years 😉 I will soon have subsequent 37. Can’t wait. 🤓

Unfortunately you can’t access latch via a foot pedal.

+rss313 Its recorded straight into Logic X using a UAD Apollo, with no preamp or compression. The final mix including the voiceover has Slate Digital FGX and Red compressor just holding things together to avoid clipping really.

I ended up with both!! Comparison coming soon.

@Neuronium spectacular absolutely. every sub37 owner seems to get really defensive when someone says they don't like something about it though. haha ...

Same

I think the difference is that Multi-trip works even when you’ve held the last key and works well for polyphonic playing whereas reset works best for EGs with longer attack and release times and when you play monophonically.

It should be simple - press the 'Knob Shift' button (next to 'DELAY') to access the extra functions. The Knob Shift LED should be lit if it's accessing the extra functions correctly.

you can split the keyboard and put any of the synths over their own set of keys... and they can all sound on the same key, overlap or solo. I'm not 100% that's what you're asking though?

@@StarskyCarr thanks for the reply, but I don’t understand you very well. Maybe I haven’t explained it clearly. I would like to split the keyboard as the typical split on regular keyboards, to have more than one patch in the same preset, but in different key zones. For example, from the central C to the low one, it would be one sound, and from the middle to the high one another. Both saved in the same preset. Would it be possible? How could I do it?

@@julenkwag aaah sorry… I thought I was replying to a question about something else. !!! Oops ;). No it’s not possible.

haha.. who know what they object to or what they were expecting. ..? The title accurately describes the video. Nutters :)

@@StarskyCarr and it helped me a lot with the subsequent 37 I bought after watching it. Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge with us. 🙏😎🎸

Explanations do… manuals are full of words for a reason 😂