Moog vs Timken vs ACDelco Wheel Bearing Product Review 

I run Fuji FS4’s at Ohio Star Forge. We use Timken steel from Timken in Canton, Ohio to forge the inner race and then it gets sent down stream for machining. We don’t do any finishing to the raceway. The rings we turn are considered “green” rings. But in regards to Timken bearings, they are unbeatable in quality and reliability.

Depends on where they’re made. The timkens for my ‘01 2500hd are trash

You guys make the best even for my Japanese Honda...no substitute for quality TY...

I wish that were the case, the ones for a jeep xj are the same as an skf. I wish they were still made in the USA. Do you still work for timken?

I had similar experience, I had to go to three different parts stores till I found Timken bearings for sale....I actually pulled them off one car and used them on another because they were still rock solid

Thanks for the feedback! Just wanted to share my experience.

No problem! Don't forget to get new axle nuts too.

Thanks for the feedback and for subscribing!! My hope is to make some helpful content and some entertaining stuff too.

Thanks a lot. Yeah we didn't have the bottom two braces welded when I shot it but it can get all the way on its side.

I was a US Army truck mech..8yrs...I saw bad AC Delco, Bad Bendix, Bad Timken, and Moog. But usually Timken was superior. Moog was next best, and then AC . These companies have all changed people and and owners and things . None are like they used to be. Its like they are new all over again. Some stuff is great and others not. AC Delco is tricky .....some stuff is made here and there. Its a crap shoot. Just search out reviews and see what I mean. Its so sad anymore. China does everything. Excellent and pure garbage. Depends....

@@Rangoslap8 thanks for the co ntribution to the conversation and for the info. I agree with you, too much outsourcing. I got lucky and my Timkens were made in the USA. But you are right ACDelco isn't always. Same with all these companies. Thanks again for sharing your vast experience and thank you for your service!!

@@mattfixesall9000 MOOG and AC Delco are just like Dorman and Beck-n-Arnley, they are RE-BOXER. Hit and miss. What I always check is what the inside. For Bearings: SKF, KOYO, NTN, AISIN, INA/Schaeffler, TIMKEN, SACHS are good. Anything else are garbage. For Balljoints, always get OEM balljoints, they last 10x longer.

Glad to help. Wish I had this info before I started my journey.

Thanks for the contributing your experience to the channel!

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honchoryanc haha I feel the exact same way. Everything is trash

Honestly

Made in China Or made using Chinese technology

engineered is usa but assembled in china by underpaid laborers who don't give a damn about quality.

I use mostly acdelcos parts. Seem to always work for the time I keep the vehicles.

Great comment!

Thanks so much for the subscription and the comment! I was so frustrated :)

Brendan Callery what website

How did they work out

It's crazy how many people have reached out and shared a similar story. Thanks for commenting.

Nice! Don't forget new hub nuts

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FAG is good too, German brand. Going with a cheaper off-brand is just begging for problems on stuff as critical as a wheelbearing.

Thats wild. Let us know how it goes!

Timken is the best!

Where did you find made in USA Timkin wheel hubs or bearings? You lucked out!!

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Timken is all over semi trucks

Absolutely. Hope it helped

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Yah A/C Delco is bottom of the barrel but if they are just rebranded Timkens then they are fine.

Hubs/bearings Moog may be good, but it's extremely common to see their tie rod ends and ball joints, suffer rubber boot failure and if not caught early enough, the ball joint inside too. Heck they have changed the boot design at least 3 times on some products trying to counter this, but it never seems to occur to them to just use thicker, silicone rubber instead of cheaping out on the boot.

used to be good. PAST TENSE!!

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3 years is about ALL you'll get out of MOOG. Then it will crap out on you & then will be replacing them again

JUNK !!!!

bryan comeaux I hope your day turns around man!

I agree with you. Unless its high performance OEM is the way! Thanks for the comment!

Wow awesome tip!!!

What wheel hubs do you fun Antman?

@@Nate_4545 ,, 06 Chevy 2500 Diesel 4x4, I learned that my ABS light came on after doing this was told the sensor can't read through the grease... Better have a lubed wheel hub and deal with a light 🤔😁

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Wait so the rocksuto timken are Chinese? Glad I came to the comments before purchasing it there. Unfortunately I have a Ford. Noel sure where to find hq parts like fcpeuro

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Your approach to finding original "Timken Hub Bearing Assemblies Made In The USA or Canada" is spot on! But not many folks would know to do this. I owned an Automotive Parts Store back in the 80's, and I was a witness to the fall of the ACDelco Brand and all of the fake/knock-off, Asian country produced parts that started showing up everywhere at that time. However, when you know what an original ACDelco box looks exactly like from back then and the true colors and numbering system that all ACDelco boxes had, it was easy to spot all the fake/knockoffs! I actually bought some of the fake/knockoff ACDelco stuff (from a major, automotive parts distributing company out of Tenn. at that time) to run test on personally (a lot of ignition stuff especially - but filters and pretty much anything that I knew I could sell), and I was actually shocked at how well the fake/knockoffs performed, even over time. Even gave some to my friends for their vehicles to let them run them and test their performance and life span for me as well. So for the type of customers that just couldn't afford the O.E.M. ACDelco stuff, they settled for the fake/knock-offs that I also carried, just so they could say they bought an ACDelco part, lol. Did I have some fail after a short time? Absolutely! But I just replaced them for FREE because I could buy them so cheaply, and the profit-margin on the fake/knockoffs was 10 times what an original ACDelco part was going to bring me in revenue. So it was a No-Brainer to carry the more popular part numbers in the fake/knockoffs for my CHEAP-O customers. :-)

@@namrednop Well! That was a fun read, thank you for sharing it. I've also had quite good luck with some cheapo China brands that turned out to be quite stout and long lasting at a fraction of the price. For instance on my '01 Maxima my front lower ball joint would always go bad quickly: MOOG, Beck/Arnely, Mevotech -- all failed within 1-2 years each. Warranty was a hassle for me, I just bought a different brand. They all failed until I went cheap and got a Quick Steer joint and that's been good for about 5 years now.

@@jgizzy Every now and then these foreign, automotive parts makers do get it right and make a fairly descent replacement part. I had to carry the Beck/Arnley brand (mostly ignition parts), because the repair shops in my area wouldn't use anything but that brand when it came to replacing any ignition parts. And Beck/Arnley was the most expensive brand there was at the time, specifically made for foreign cars. But they just passed on the cost like everyone did/does. MOOG was a great brand back in the 80's. Not sure about it now, as things have surely changed since I was in the industry. TRW branded stuff went to the dogs at that time during the 80's as well. They just ended up being a re-boxer of everyone else's stuff. It was a time I wouldn't give up for anything. And at the same time, I wouldn't ever want to be back in that industry ever again, lol! Thanks for the reply! :-)

Wheel hubs and bearings for FORD have to be replaced with MotorCraft, OEM

Yep alignment is good.

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Thank you for the feedback!

They were like 3 years ago, but they sold the company so now the parts are crap.

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Sorry for t he delayed reply. I bought an AC Delco which happened to be manufactured by Timken. It is still in good shape as i write this.

Matt Fixes All thank you Matt bought ACdelco so far no problem thanks

Great! Hopefully you get the kind of miles out of it that the factory bearing gave you. What kind of warranty did it have if you don't mind me asking?

@GOD OVER MONEY Auto Correct was probably very confused

Thanks for sharing your experience

I have met quite a few guys that work for Timken recently. They still make some of them on our shores. They all swear by their quality and tolerances.

Hopefully it is all good. Thanks for the contribution.

I was about to purchase Moog RK suspension parts for my Silverado and then discovered they also make a CK line that is far superior. Ordered those and getting ready to install. They are supposed to be better than OEM.

Thanks so much for the comment. God bless you!

Delco pretty much, just replaced my 07 trailblazer bearings with Timkens and the upper control arms with Moogs at 193k.

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Timken makes there own steel. Canton ohio

Awesome!! USA!

@@gregorymorrow1730 there are timken made in china and korea. You know that right? Majority of timken are made in china now. If you buy timken even at a reputable online store its not guarantee made in usa. Most likely you will get the made in china one. If you want gurantee made in usa timken then you gotta search for it. Not easy...

How did it go?

@@mattfixesall9000 The noise stopped on it's own 🤣. But I have the part when for when it's needed.

Awesome! Ill take the self healing all day every day !!!

My Timken experiences have all been good.

Thanks for contributing. Great information!

@@mattfixesall9000 no problem! It's not always commonly known information. When I was replacing my spider injector on my old 5.7 vortec, I wanted the updated MPFI spider. I knew Delphi had the most reliable one but the tune of $600 was a bit steep. So I got an ACDelco kit with all the gaskets and such and lo and behold it had Delphi all over it. Even the main head of the spider unit shares the same part number as the old poppet spider setup! I saved a considerable amount of money going this route which was great. At my last job I had various opportunities to see these OEM facilities occasionally and I also visited places where old equipment was stored from OEM facilities. I also know a few people in the industry as well that were able to provide some insight as to how the process of building vehicles actually works.

AC delco used a timken bearing fir my application. No problems after that

Anytime!

Thats wildly inexpensive! You will have to let us know how it goes

Let us know how they do!

@@mattfixesall9000 will do! So far from mechanics shop to Firestone shop for a front end alignment. Wow feels like a whole new truck at the steering wheel. Definitely feels tighter and more responsive. Can wait to get the little slant out of the steering wheel and get it on the highway. So I can hear the silence.

Sweet! Sounds fun! Thanks for the contribution!!!

@@mattfixesall9000 Man I really like your content. Expect me to comment where I can. Super cool folks.

Thank you very much! I appreciate it! Let me know if you ever have any content requests ill try to make it happen if i get the chance!

I know i just put a second moog outer tie rod on my ford edge that was about a year old.

Moog went the way of Optima batteries. Garbage that started with an excellent lineage.

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Thanks for commenting. Yeah. And the comments section of this video are filled with info from a lot of great peeps sharing their experiences.

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But I’m gonna do the AC Delco instead

I would go Timken. AC Delco is NOT a bearing manufacturer, they buy from the supplier who gives them the best price.

It was all done to spec! I agree with you!

I know the look. Lol. Surprisingly they were very courteous and said that I was not the only one. Made me feel a little better but after all I had gone through I thought a personal experience video needed to be made. Thanks for watching and sharing your experience.

1) Because they are super expensive, usually. 2) Because you can get some quality from the original manufacturer instead. 3) OEM aftermarket parts may not be the same thing installed at the factory, just supposed functional equivalent, sometimes called "service grade".

if I'm bothering to remove a bearing to repack, it's getting replaced!

Acdelco and GM wheel hubs made by Timken?

Thanks for sharing your experience with this community! Let us know how it goes!

Thank u..I don't have as much faith in the Detroit axel I just put in after watching your video..I will say my truck feels less restricted..Like if I'm costing it feels like it's moving along easier...I'm also shifting at lower rpms again like I did before I put the 37s on...I thought the bigger tire being heavier on stock rear diff was why I was shifting at 2 rpm..I'm back to shifting at 1 1/2 RPM again...My only guess is because maybe my truck felt it was towing because the rotors where Barley touching the pads while driving so it was not moving freely like it is now after I fixed that issue..Honestly I'm kinda stumped on this one

Wow this is interesting! Glad to hear you got it fixed!

Thanks for commenting and your contribution! I bet you are right you will have to post back and let us know when you pull the old ones!

I always like OEM quality whichever one you choose. Let us know how it goes!

Thanks for your contribution to the conversation

Yeah. Mine is good. Remember to use new axle nuts and find the right torque :)

FYI, the Delco parts you get at the parts store are not OEM. They are not the same parts that come on the vehicle new. They are "aftermarket" branded. To get OEM, you have to go to a dealer, even then it may not be the same as factory.

@@royjohnson8122 I walked away from this with avoiding cheap bearings.

@@royjohnson8122 Roy Johnson you are correct for sure. I was comparing my experience with two different bearings that claimed to be OEM quality "or better". The quality was there for one and just wasn't there for the other. Thanks for the contribution :)

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Ugh. Hopefully you can get a fix that works for you!

Hey Bob, I bought it from Advance online. Not sure how their return or exchange policy is for online purchases since I haven't had any problems. But they didn't stock them in store for my vehicle or else I tend to prefer that method. The manager of a store said that I could buy it at their store and have it shipped there for pick up in the future. I have also gotten ACDelco parts from Rock Auto. I would go with a reputable company to ensure you are getting the real thing. The ones I bought have a limited lifetime warranty.

Haven’t heard any complaints about them personally. what about you?

What's better ac delco or moog

Ismael Jimenez can’t answer that honestly, I think ppl would usually agree that moog is better, but lately I hear a lot of their stuff is cheap china too. Well I’ve heard that in the wheel hubs. I installed some 5 months ago so we will see. My son is about to install some moog lower ball joints so we will see on that too

Thanks for sharing! Sounds like a fun car ti be a passenger in!

Good to know. Thanks for contributing to the conversation!!

That s nuts

Ugh. Thats brutal. I feel your pain.

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555 ball joints have great reviews except for the people that use them in the poorly designed Path finders and Four runners

@@mattfixesall9000 , A seller on Ebay had a 555 lower ball joint listed for sale in a white TRW box. When the package arrived it was a CT.R, made in Korea in a black & blue FED MOGUL box. I yelled bait & switch and I got the one in the picture. I now have a full set of 555 ball joints & tie rod ends. My RARE PARTS strut rod bushings were made in Japan also

Mine has made in china.

Tim Ken has made in Korea and China?

@@bthompson1767 Yes, and also japan. I believe Koyo bought a big chunk of Timken

Me too , made in Korea, 3 weeks so far!

They are the best!!

Matt Fixes All I’m sure quality isn’t as good as it used to be, but at one time they used the best chrome steel and tightest machining tolerances in the world. Dad worked in the railroad division, they had bearings that were kept track of and some went millions of miles.

@@deborahchesser7375 Timkin is the bearing that did the job and is the most durable. It's the only way to go.

I'm wondering if he bought the "Acdelco Advantage" part. Advantage is a newer "economy" line from Acdelco. The "Acdelco GM Original Equipment" part is $100 more than the Advantage line, and Moog etc. for my vehicle as well.

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Thanks for the comment. I agree Proper installation is certainly of the utmost importance when installing any part and wheel bearings very important. The ones that I used were both labeled as premium so the price difference was not substantial between the two, the quality was. Any info you have about your experience with what you ordered is great. Let us know!