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Mopar 6.4 392 Hemi cold air. Initial driving impressions. "Cold air intake"? Not really. 

B Mason
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The jury is still out but the evidence isn't looking good. although this intake may be good at the track, the real world may pose a different set of challenges. In predictable yet still annoying fashion, the intake air temp will skyrocket once the cooling fans kick on. Under-way the intake will drop temperature at about the same rate as the stock box, maybe even as fast as the Hellcat. Still though, the main focus of the test was to isolate the air temperature sensor to see what the temps were at the filter. They get hot, easily hitting over 140 degrees on a 58 degree day with only a short time at idle once the car was at operating temperature.

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@twiceonsundays
@twiceonsundays 4 года назад
I've been debating on a cai, but all educated sources say that the stock setup on these cars is about as good as it gets. Thanks for the informative video!
@christo4982
@christo4982 3 года назад
very well documented. Was wondering about that exact scenario! Thank you much. Well done friend. Just add a k&n drop in then.
@MarcusMaximusIFBBPRO
@MarcusMaximusIFBBPRO 4 года назад
Wow. I’ll stick with the factory CAI. I have a 392 SCAT 6.4 as well. Thanks for the info!
@JetTech1966
@JetTech1966 7 лет назад
With all CAI's these days it's more about sound than it "actually" being a Cold Air Intake! The factory ones pull air from below the frame with a seal at the bottom of the housing. No it doesn't give the intake sound that a CAI will but it is pulling cold air into the intake. I love CAI's but they are more for sound and not for performance.
@MaddJakd
@MaddJakd 4 года назад
I seriously don't think it's all around that cynical. You do have those, but depending on where you go there ARE better CAI than whats stock. This however..... was just thrown together out of the pre-existing parts box. Pretty sure pre-Hellcat, the Mopar CAI's are actually useful 😉
@kdogjkable
@kdogjkable 6 лет назад
So if there was a vent in the hood, where the cai is. Then it would run cooler over all?
@sotiristsingos6830
@sotiristsingos6830 5 лет назад
Love the channel, awesome info. Have you considered installing the T/A ram air setup? Converts the intake scoop into a functional scoop.
@chuckgray3357
@chuckgray3357 5 лет назад
Yes I did it and works really well !
@lonnieaspinwall3862
@lonnieaspinwall3862 7 лет назад
I actually have one of these coming to me, but with the Mopar inlet tube to connect it to the headlight like the current HC setup. I'll get some material and fab up a plate to block that opening on the front edge, plus a little heat reflective material for the expansion tank side. It will be interesting to see how it compares to the HC, once I do some minor tweaking.
@MrHL126
@MrHL126 2 года назад
Sounds like a good theory. With combustion temps being so high Should we really worry about this? The sysytem increases gas mileage by 2 miles per gallon on the highway and you know that counts today.I wouldnt be in a rush to block off air.
@lonnieaspinwall3862
@lonnieaspinwall3862 7 лет назад
Just thought I would let you know, car trapped 115+ on Friday night in +1500 DA with my modified Mopar cai, air temp was 83*. I added the Mopar intake tube to the headlight, blocked off the cutout in the front edge, and spaced the box up from the bottom. I hot lapped the car 4 consecutive passes later on, never dropped below 114+ mph in +900 DA/70* air temps w/60% humidity. Much less drop off than the Hellcat I had on the car before.
@bmasontv
@bmasontv 7 лет назад
Very nice! I may reinstall the Legmaker on the car.... Just for the heck of it. I may make some mods to it as well. Nice intake but I kinda like the stock appearance of the Hellcat. I never noticed any real drop off with the Hellcat and the Hellcat filter... Except at Moparfest.
@lonnieaspinwall3862
@lonnieaspinwall3862 7 лет назад
I think once the outside temps begin to climb, the Hellcat becomes more prone to heat soak. This is especially true if you hot lap the car...that plastic gets hot, which in turn heats the filter and air coming through it. If the ambient temp is high enough, it just can't pull the heat fast enough. Even with the filter removed, same effect, albeit to a lesser degree. That's why I started messing around with the Mopar setup, and trying to reduce the heat intrusion issue.
@zedc7250
@zedc7250 5 лет назад
Lonnie Aspinwall I added the Hellcat tube to my mopar cai. How’d you block off the front cutout?
@Eyeseemoneywarzone
@Eyeseemoneywarzone 5 лет назад
Would it be wrong to plug the two holes on the side of the box?
@gkk2001
@gkk2001 7 лет назад
BMason...would you sell this cAI if you still have it? If so, please let me know, I am looking for one.
@yoshshmenge294
@yoshshmenge294 4 года назад
Excellent piece of info. Decided against this "cai" because of those holes. Went with the Injen evo for half the price.
@ddgracia15
@ddgracia15 7 лет назад
I wanted to do this mod on my 2016 Scat Charger. After talking to 4 Dodge dealer techs at lunch one day the said they would not recommend it. They confirmed what your video is all about, it sucks in more hot air than the stock set from the factory.
@bmasontv
@bmasontv 7 лет назад
I was startled as to how fast it heated up and it didn't want to cool off very quickly either. That intake wasn't on the car for more than 48 hours.
@ddgracia15
@ddgracia15 7 лет назад
B Mason Best advise I got was leave the stock set up and find a high flow filter to replace the stock filter they put in. I like your idea of a Hellcat higher CFM filter to put in.
@bmasontv
@bmasontv 7 лет назад
***** that is the best filter to run in the stock box. It flows great and is OE spec for filtration. Win/ win!
@GODSouljaseven
@GODSouljaseven 7 лет назад
Hey guys, I know it's an old video, but where would I ne able to purchase that Hellcat filter?
@bmasontv
@bmasontv 7 лет назад
Here ya go! autoplicity.com/8446713-mahle-lx-3482-air-filter?gclid=Cj0KEQiA8orFBRCEpODivaOft_EBEiQAy3mlfQ2fV9Mf-euY0DURFwmtrnAqJyh2ay_5dzvLVXHJ8w4aAgfN8P8HAQ
@josephtorres6740
@josephtorres6740 3 года назад
Can you provide me the CAI part number that you have on your scat pack
@MrHL126
@MrHL126 2 года назад
I have that system. Everything he says is correct. What they dont tell you is it cools the coolant system because it sucks the hot air from the radiator. 10 degrees or so.What they dont say is How high can the intake temp go and be safe? Combustion is hot so I would say it doesnt matter that much but, I am not the expert. On a hot day 100degrees the intake temp will float up to 170 but the coolant is 208 210 versus 219 221. What is anyones input to help my study?
@TheLegendaryLoso
@TheLegendaryLoso 6 лет назад
These come stock on the new DAYTONA 392... What do you think about that?
@vincentferrante1558
@vincentferrante1558 4 года назад
Very informative thank u and so basically what you're saying is not to get this one but I'd prob be better off upgrading to an enclosed air intake such as the GT MOMENTUM w the air intake tube from the headlight ito the box and that will do the job while keeping hot air out since there's no way for that hot air to get into the box.
@bmasontv
@bmasontv 4 года назад
Yep, that's about the long and short of it.
@meatball6930
@meatball6930 4 года назад
I have a 2020 Durango SRT and switched to the JLT open air box. My temps dropped between 5-10 degrees. I haven’t checked your videos yet but did you check all situations with your stock box. These engine compartments get screaming hot with these engines that have high temp thermostats even on a cool day here in Florida. Those temps you are saying are normal on a cool day here. That stock box gets hot as hell in the engine compartment as well. The bottom suction is stupid to me , heat rises anyway and the ground isn’t cooler. Lay on back on on a sunny day in your driveway facing the sky and inhale-then switch to your stomach with your face towards your driveway and breathe in and tell me which one feels hotter. We both now facing down and breathing in. My point is the stock box does get hot as hell in that engine compartment and not letting heat rise and get out of it just ends up in your intake. With the new JLT open top box the heat rises out of the box and is mixed with all different temp air that’s coming in through bottom , through the vent in Hellcat hood , grill and engine compartment air and it has made my intake temps drop and makes the Durango faster (a little ) and it makes the exhaust sound better. I know a ton of people disagree with me because I’ve seen 2000 videos and everyone saying the same thing but for me it’s the total opposite. And again the stock box gets hot as hell and air has no way to escape and it’s sucking hot air from the ground which i can’t even walk on in my bare feet so it makes no sense to have a closed air box.
@zedc7250
@zedc7250 5 лет назад
What’s up B Mason! What’s your thought of installing a demon hood to a RT scat and/or hellcat challenger given the pins are included. I know there won’t be a 100% seal with my mopar cold air intake to the hood scoop, but with the air grabber being 45 inches (largest air intake hood equipped to any production vehicle OEM), I would see nothing but lower intake temperatures, especially if someone has the RT hood and not the hellcat hood.
@bmasontv
@bmasontv 5 лет назад
If you can get your hands on one, I say go for it!
@6.2widekat62
@6.2widekat62 5 лет назад
Are you still running the mopar CAI? I currently have the Mopar CAI In my 2016 Dodge Charger scatpack and was thinking of either just adding the snorkel to feed more air to the CAI or just reverting back to the stock box and converting it to the hellcat box with the snorkel. Any thoughts?
@MrGarcia114
@MrGarcia114 5 лет назад
Justin Sio what u end up doing ?
@WEATHERSCRUZCRUZLIFE
@WEATHERSCRUZCRUZLIFE 7 лет назад
This looks almost similar to my scat pack shaker intake except on the shaker scoop there's another tube running from the shaker scoop to the air box. Also I recently found a mopar part that fits these air boxes. It looks like it fits directly into the rectangular opening of the air box and the other end to the headlight. I do plan to order this for mine. Here's the part number 77072385
@themoj0
@themoj0 6 лет назад
Do it. it took me like 10 mins to take out the airbox..drill the holes...attach the tube..and replace the airbox
@TargaWheels
@TargaWheels 7 лет назад
Does anyone make a hood with a scoop (or a pair of scoops to even-out the look) to create a true cold air intake? That way you could seal it off from the under-hood heat.
@bmasontv
@bmasontv 7 лет назад
TargaWheels the T/A hood does... but the,cost....
@mttmike
@mttmike 4 года назад
I have a challenger T/A, and its actually functional because the hood scoops really channels the air into the intake box instead of just into the engine bay which doesn't really do anything... which is also the other reason I got the T/A cuz u really don't have to do any other mods on it.
@KAnthonyStrick
@KAnthonyStrick 4 года назад
Does moving that sensor to the filter provide better temp readings for tuning/driving?
@bmasontv
@bmasontv 4 года назад
More consistent readings.
@arphos8328
@arphos8328 3 года назад
That's why the stock air box and other closed style CAI's are the way to go. Once those fans kick on you're toast, literally. Is the Injen CAI any good? Been meaning to replace my stock air box since a tab on the top cover is broken, and Mopar doesn't sell you just the top half, so figure for a little bit more to get something that doesn't have that issue.
@bmasontv
@bmasontv 3 года назад
Injen is a good kit but it isnt any better than stock in terms of performance.
@eddiepitts
@eddiepitts 6 лет назад
I installed this intake on my 2017 Dodge Challenger with the scat pack. During install we also added the full hellcat ducting. They also had to modify the air fuel ratio in the programming. We did not see any heat increase with the full ducting.
@zedc7250
@zedc7250 5 лет назад
How is your setup running now/what differences have you noticed? (with the hellcat duct/tube) Planning on adding the duct to my Mopar CIA which will arrive shortly.
@karlzaman4420
@karlzaman4420 7 лет назад
what if there is a shaker intake would that help with keeping it a bit cool or redirecting air into the filter?
@bmasontv
@bmasontv 7 лет назад
Karl Zaman the shaker is better. my SRT has a large hood scoop which serves to bring in fresh air to the general under hood area.
@karlzaman4420
@karlzaman4420 7 лет назад
B Mason thanks for the reply i have a scatpack with the shaker in white... love your car and vids keep up the good work man
@bmasontv
@bmasontv 7 лет назад
Karl Zaman Thanks, I appreciate it! I love the Scatpack Shakers. Sweet ride for sure!
@kaqurat33
@kaqurat33 6 лет назад
Yea thats what i wanted to know i have the shaker hood scoop which has a tube that runs from the shaker to the filter is this a better setup than than the scatpacks without the shaker hood
@behnamzamani5907
@behnamzamani5907 2 года назад
And also for your advice on the tire set up I run 245/45r20 all the way aroun some guys are going bigger I like too but use my stock rim because it’s a Daytona addiction 315 is unnecessary and will not take advantage off the 315 on a stock 9” tire but I like to go Niger and will they fit with the eibach bro kit maybe 275 or 255 all around??
@bmasontv
@bmasontv 2 года назад
275 40-20 rears, leave the stocks upfront.
@chaunbishop9373
@chaunbishop9373 3 года назад
Do you have an IG? I have rather extensive question about this
@themoj0
@themoj0 6 лет назад
At idle, if you spent a few xtra dollars for the actual headlight tube, that filter will DRAW in cooler air...
@bmasontv
@bmasontv 6 лет назад
themoj0 did that. Same issue.
@themoj0
@themoj0 6 лет назад
interesting
@Eyeseemoneywarzone
@Eyeseemoneywarzone 5 лет назад
Where do we look for the tube?
@zedc7250
@zedc7250 5 лет назад
carlos martinez I used part # 77072385 in combination with the mopar cold air intake for my 6.4.
@ivanp2490
@ivanp2490 4 года назад
Aside from the temperature concerns, is the airflow the same as the stock airbox? I have a 2018 scatpack and I know that 2018 Daytonas come with this intake from the factory so I'm assuming both of these intakes have the same air flow.
@bmasontv
@bmasontv 4 года назад
In terms of actual air flow, I would say that it is at least equal to if not greater than the stock air box with the stock air filter in it
@ivanp2490
@ivanp2490 4 года назад
@@bmasontv Thanks for the quick reply. I just installed a stage 1 edelbrock supercharger and they are freaking me out because I used their tune and now they are saying their tune works to the stock components only. So now I dont know if by having this intake versus the stock airbox I'm going to have airflow issues. If this intake has the same airflow than the airbox, I dont see why it would be a problem.
@behnamzamani5907
@behnamzamani5907 2 года назад
Ok B I got my efa power intake fastman tb and instead of porting my stock intake manifold I can get a 392 ported intake new with install and z auto controller all said and done $1210 for my 5.7 is that a bad idea or you recommend just port the one I have
@bmasontv
@bmasontv 2 года назад
If it's in the budget, run the 392 intake, but you'd be better off with a tune with it. If not, go with your stock intake manifold unported
@KAnthonyStrick
@KAnthonyStrick 4 года назад
Hey where did you get your breather on your 392 intake?
@bmasontv
@bmasontv 4 года назад
Autozone
@WORLD-OF-MERLIN
@WORLD-OF-MERLIN 7 лет назад
I did a before and after dyno on my 2012 Challenger SRT and it had quite a horsepower difference; however, I do have a supercharger in it. Check out my video to see if it helps any viewers. Whether, the temperature gets hotter or not, it made horsepower difference nevertheless.
@adamlipscomb6459
@adamlipscomb6459 5 лет назад
Hi b mason. Did u put a cold air intake on your ram 1500 sport 5.7
@bmasontv
@bmasontv 5 лет назад
no I never did. left it stock
@danielhunsinger8017
@danielhunsinger8017 3 года назад
I know this is an old video but I wonder why Dodge would offer this as an upgrade and according to your findings it's not. I also wonder if you have a Charger , you should also have the Hood vent to bring in cooler air or if you have a T/A , that car also uses the hood vent. So maybe installing it as you did is actually incorrect. You don't have the hood lid.
@oswaldocastillo6305
@oswaldocastillo6305 2 года назад
I have the hellcat intake! & it also heats up!! All intake will increase temp! Once throttle body opens, air start to move. Since they are nothing to move the heat temp put when at light. Most sucks. Ppl say lmi is the best, but they throw the filter into wheel well, which in heavy rain i can see that being affected. This untake is mussing the cai kit from the T/A hood scoop.
@bmasontv
@bmasontv 2 года назад
This intake is missing the cold air from the TA because the TA didn't exist when this intake was installed. This intake did not perform as well as the Hellcat intake in my testing
@oswaldocastillo6305
@oswaldocastillo6305 2 года назад
@@bmasontv it came out from a hellcat as well. So 2015 was available.. but not sure on the ram intake thing if it was. I wanted to go that route but to pricy! Just going to make my own kit for the rt hood
@bmasontv
@bmasontv 2 года назад
@@oswaldocastillo6305 No. The TA was released in 2017. None of those parts were available at the time of this video.
@oswaldocastillo6305
@oswaldocastillo6305 2 года назад
@@bmasontv what about the hods? Single.scoop in middle
@bmasontv
@bmasontv 2 года назад
@@oswaldocastillo6305 just a vent. fresh air to the engine compartment. same as the hellcat.
@dgutierrez104
@dgutierrez104 4 года назад
How much horsepower and torque does a mopar cold air intake add?
@bmasontv
@bmasontv 4 года назад
Zero and zero
@hectorserrano7703
@hectorserrano7703 7 лет назад
What is the little chrome filter next to the valve cover?
@bmasontv
@bmasontv 7 лет назад
Hector Serrano that is the intake for the PCVcircuit/vent for the crank case under WOT. it is not connected to the filter for the reasons I was explaining in the video.
@hectorserrano7703
@hectorserrano7703 7 лет назад
B Mason that's what I was figuring, but saw another video and the pcv looked like it was on the left side. thank you.
@TheAcbro357
@TheAcbro357 3 года назад
What are your thoughts if the vehicle is a 300S 5.7 Hemi? I just ordered the Mopar CAI so I need to know if I should send it back.
@bmasontv
@bmasontv 3 года назад
Send it back and run a drop in K&N on your stock box. Save the cash..
@TheAcbro357
@TheAcbro357 3 года назад
@@bmasontv Wowww, you're a money saver bruh, now i can take that money and do a muffler delete. Thank you!
@bmasontv
@bmasontv 3 года назад
@@TheAcbro357 happy to help!
@rodrigosantoyo4278
@rodrigosantoyo4278 3 года назад
Would it be better to just go with a hellcat lower box?
@bmasontv
@bmasontv 3 года назад
Yes.
@dharmjayaraj
@dharmjayaraj 6 лет назад
What’s the small little filter on you engine?
@bmasontv
@bmasontv 6 лет назад
That is a breather for the crank case. Venting to atmosphere as opposed to through the inlet tract.
@coolykisser6345
@coolykisser6345 4 года назад
Would you Recomend it what are benefits? I have a catch can I sware buy them
@mikegrazio5376
@mikegrazio5376 7 лет назад
I don't think its that big a deal. If not than dodge wouldn't have installed this on the 2017 Daytona 6.4 hemi from the factory. My thougghts? IF you can afford it and you like it, buy it
@MrGarcia114
@MrGarcia114 5 лет назад
Mike grazio have you sold that car yet and is it destroyer gray ??
@1michlen
@1michlen 4 года назад
Which cold air intake do you recommend for the V6 Challenger?
@bmasontv
@bmasontv 4 года назад
Quite honestly, the stock system works great. I will look for other areas to spend your money.
@1michlen
@1michlen 4 года назад
@@bmasontv thanks. you just saved me about 400 buck plus the cost to install. Im getting a borla attack exhaust today. im gonna go with a drop in k&n filter instead of mopar CAI. How do you feel about RIPP Coil packs and performance spark plugs as a mod to get some hp?
@bmasontv
@bmasontv 4 года назад
@@1michlen coil packs and plugs will yield nothing, unless you have a bad coil pack or very old plugs. In that case go with stock.
@1michlen
@1michlen 4 года назад
@@bmasontv The car is a 2018 Challenger SXT Plus with 26000 miles. Its well kept so the coil packs and spark plugs are probably good. Ive been researching mods for this car for about 6 months and Ive come to find out from watching you that everybody is lying about what these mods can do. What other simple bolt on mods are out there that actually work other than a throttle controller which im considering because of you?
@05srt4turbo1
@05srt4turbo1 3 года назад
I don't race and my car runs fine and I wonder why would mopar make these if they are worse?
@bmasontv
@bmasontv 3 года назад
$$$ Because people will buy them $$$
@MaddJakd
@MaddJakd 4 года назад
Seems like a very odd oversite on their own design for their own vehicle. Seriously looks like they jist took the CIA parts from the earlier renditions actually, where that box would have (probably) worked as designed.
@blackice7408
@blackice7408 6 лет назад
All mopar is doing is making money off of ppl thinking that mopar is a performance company, that their cold air intakes will work. Thats why i use the afe momentum closed cold air intake. Not only does it suck in cold air better, but it looks pretty damn good in the engine bay
@bmasontv
@bmasontv 6 лет назад
Y.B.V. on ur screen AFE Make a a very nice kit. That Mopar unit is not at all the best.
@blackice7408
@blackice7408 6 лет назад
B Mason i personally dont know why mopar will even attempt to update and improve their intakes, because its not good at all. I dont know if u will and you dont have to, but maybe you should try the afe momentum closed cold air intake. It comes as a 1 piece and and is obviously closed. But it comes in the choice of a white convience filter, or a blue performance filter. I dont know how they differ. Maybe you do. I'd be happy if you explained it to me.
@behnamzamani5907
@behnamzamani5907 3 года назад
B Mason bahi from san Diego will stock hellcat drop in filter fitt in my 5.7 drop in box
@bmasontv
@bmasontv 3 года назад
What year? what car?
@behnamzamani5907
@behnamzamani5907 3 года назад
@@bmasontv so thanks for getting back i didn't know how to contact you i been watching you for over a year and I love to fallow you. You tell it like it is and not to do mods that don't do much. So I have a dodge charger 2013 daytona with the 5.7 I been using the k&n for a few years
@bmasontv
@bmasontv 3 года назад
@@behnamzamani5907 I believe it will, but for your application the K&N will work just fine. There's no sense in spending the money for literally no gain unless you live in a very dusty area, you'll be just fine.
@behnamzamani5907
@behnamzamani5907 3 года назад
@@bmasontv so even when its ready to be changed keep on getting the the k&n instead of the hellcat one ok?? Hey brother I been wanting you to guide me to build my charger that is a 5.7 for a while now never had the money and kept putting it off and now at 118k miles just started to do so its ok the car is tits tho so never to late it gets a wipe down every morning in front of my shop lol. It started to excite me when you came out with that 5.7 clip and so iam starting to buy one thing at a time I ordered the magnaflow street cat back then maybe shortys because long tube not legal in sd you know exactly how I like my car to be i dont want to have a track car but a everyday car that is fun and fast and give the 5.0 a run if they fuck with me can you help me
@bmasontv
@bmasontv 3 года назад
@@behnamzamani5907 no need to buy another k&n. They are designed to be washed. Pick up a cleaning kit and do not over oil the filter. Quite a few Hellcat and SRT owners run them. In fact, one of the Hellcats I have tuned swears by them.
@dnvr12
@dnvr12 5 лет назад
Vid would be better with more testing vs theory... all intakes get hotter at idle. All of them...
@a11lestudia
@a11lestudia 7 лет назад
how hp this cai? 15?
@bmasontv
@bmasontv 7 лет назад
alessandro cav nowhere near that much. Maybe 2-3
@TheOgsuspect
@TheOgsuspect 2 года назад
Will this fit a 2021 scatpack?
@bmasontv
@bmasontv 2 года назад
If it is a 6.4... yes
@TheOgsuspect
@TheOgsuspect 2 года назад
@@bmasontv any issues installing it?
@bmasontv
@bmasontv 2 года назад
@@TheOgsuspect not at all
@hectorlopez-lv3pt
@hectorlopez-lv3pt 6 лет назад
If you Guys want to throw your money away on after market "JUNK" like Air Intakes that you imagine give you some extra Pop...Buy a couple of Bags of Canned Food Groceries and Drop them off at your local Food For the less Fortunate!! I promise you'll get way Better results right out of the Box.thousands of Dollars for maybe a mila Second is FUCKIN STUPID...
@Welcometofacsistube
@Welcometofacsistube 6 лет назад
hector lopez hey hector, take your arrogant socialist piety and shove it
@hughghazz7906
@hughghazz7906 6 лет назад
not worth the money, people get suckered into this because it "makes it sound better".. Has NO affect on performance or may even make it worse... Its like the idiots that put a 500.00 exhaust system on a subaru... LOL
@christophercorrado2406
@christophercorrado2406 4 года назад
thet get the 500 bc OEM is 2100...lol
@bamagriz687
@bamagriz687 7 лет назад
You took a 3 minute video and made it a 7 minute video by saying the same thing over and over again. Otherwise, good info.
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