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This is the objective new best way to play Smash. Can't wait to play this new mode with more friends!
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@bfeldz1023
@bfeldz1023 2 года назад
If the Underdogs ever decide to host another Big Smash Bash, Hopcat's "Balanced" Smash should be one of the events.
@Adam-to5xu
@Adam-to5xu 2 года назад
Yeah but they think Pac Man isn't broken, that's the problem.
@GorgeGrouse
@GorgeGrouse 2 года назад
@B Chu You mean even better
@dazedheart9006
@dazedheart9006 2 года назад
@@GorgeGrouse You mean even funnier
@vick7868
@vick7868 2 года назад
@@Adam-to5xu he got the max nerf tho didn't he?
@GarfieldLover123
@GarfieldLover123 2 года назад
@@vick7868 your correct he did
@Rat_the_Renegade
@Rat_the_Renegade 2 года назад
The reason Young Link's Bombs did the zoom in is cause it actually hits twice. The first hit spikes hence the zoom in but the second hit sent him upwards.
@moonslayerbs1783
@moonslayerbs1783 2 года назад
Wow, very cool.
@Adam-to5xu
@Adam-to5xu 2 года назад
Yeah it hits like 4 times.
@DrDubMemes
@DrDubMemes 2 года назад
It really starts to get meta when you make a tier list for this mode and then change them again based on that
@alerttototoy9662
@alerttototoy9662 2 года назад
Oh no my brain
@Zapdos_777
@Zapdos_777 2 года назад
I would love to see you play against pro players with and do this with their teirlists
@sneddo6929
@sneddo6929 2 года назад
Would be hard because it’s only offline
@DJKokaKola
@DJKokaKola 2 года назад
Marss: ok ZSS is actually pretty average and has bad MUs, so you should just leave her as is
@Zapdos_777
@Zapdos_777 2 года назад
@@sneddo6929 they could probably use yuzu but I don’t know
@Salone_FD
@Salone_FD 2 года назад
@@DJKokaKola One might even say ZSS Sux
@DeeMcGee13
@DeeMcGee13 2 года назад
HopCat: “I feel like I’m climbing a mountain.” Poppt1: “The mountain is gonna kick you in the face.” HopCat: *immediately gets kicked in the face*
@Ridlay_
@Ridlay_ 2 года назад
Yessss let’s go. This should just be a series at this point, messing with the custom balance in different ways and with different people.
@gloubiboulgathefirst5784
@gloubiboulgathefirst5784 2 года назад
The fact that this is based on the BSD tier list make some of the buffs/nerfs VERY questionnable lmao
@1fellswoop614
@1fellswoop614 2 года назад
I consider jigglypuff high tier after the buffs. She got 3 new kill-confirms and they still put her in low tier.
@dariogomezlopez3278
@dariogomezlopez3278 2 года назад
@@1fellswoop614 I mean jigglypuff was born low tier for the simple reason that high risk, high reward characters tend to be bad that's the same reason why mac and ganon are terrible. She struggles against swords, projectiles and has terrible kill power outside from rest so three new kill confirms isn't enough.
@ShinyMew76
@ShinyMew76 2 года назад
And they think plant is the worst in the game, when plant has so many setups and great damage and KO potential, he has good recovery and amazing advantage state
@elmacho1336
@elmacho1336 2 года назад
Game and Watch not being top tier
@bobertjohnson4459
@bobertjohnson4459 2 года назад
>Puff worse than Incineroar *hmmm*
@narxmagee727
@narxmagee727 2 года назад
Ironically, when the Blue Kirby is stronger it losses. Guess it just proves that the unbeatable Blue Kirby is perfect the way he is.
@Redinho1
@Redinho1 2 года назад
All of Diddie Kong’s bones all broken while Bowser Jr’s all buffed in this
@castform7
@castform7 2 года назад
It's a shame no one else uses this mode. It almost completely changes the game in a really funny way
@estylezgaming
@estylezgaming 2 года назад
Right. I found this mechanic, and It changed the way how I play smash
@arazet
@arazet 2 года назад
it’s real fun to mess around with
@epistarter1136
@epistarter1136 2 года назад
Where do you find this?
@estylezgaming
@estylezgaming 2 года назад
@@epistarter1136 You Go The Right Hand Corner, and click options and After that You Click on Smash, and it will show a list Of custom Settings, one Settings is labeled custom balance
@SirNarax
@SirNarax 2 года назад
Arguably people probably don't use it more than they would because you can't use it online. You can't use a lot of custom things that would be online. Which is a little bit ironic given that Smash is primarily a casual party game. The online portion even private games are exclusively more 'serious' matches.
@giovanniomanand4355
@giovanniomanand4355 2 года назад
8:25 DAMN, I didn't know that Plant's down-b reached that far!
@missingno_LLC
@missingno_LLC 2 года назад
We love to see the first hopcat upload of 2022! I can’t wait to see where 2022 takes us all. 🥳❤️
@FeeeebleVT
@FeeeebleVT 2 года назад
actually his first one was 2 days ago
@OmniBroski
@OmniBroski 2 года назад
This is top tier content Would love to see more like balancing the character using tier lists made by the underdogs (together or one each)!
@FerdinandvonAegir
@FerdinandvonAegir 2 года назад
I have an idea that could maybe make the stats more balanced for these videos. Currently, a former top-tier facing a former bottom-tier will have a cumulative stat gap of *60%,* which is kinda bonkers. I have a different scale that could make things a little more even, but still feel different enough from the base game. *Top tier:* Stats reduced by 20%. *High tier:* Stats reduced by 10%. *Mid tier:* Stats unchanged. *Low tier:* Stats increased by 10% *Bottom tier:* Stats increased by 20%. With this scale, the highest cumulative stat gap between characters is only 40%, which is still impactful without being unwinnable. Most matchups will only have a stat gap of 10-20%. Mid tier characters are not directly buffed, but they indirectly benefit from high tier characters and other tough matchups being nerfed, making them feel like more competitive choices overall. I think this could be a decent way to make more characters viable without completely flipping the tier list upside down --like Australia.-- Anyways, great video as always! I'm looking forward to seeing more videos where you mess around with the stat changing feature and play with friends.
@SuperSaga2191
@SuperSaga2191 2 года назад
"WHY AM I AT [INSERT OUTRAGEOUS NUMBER HERE]" Is probably the most said sentence when playing against piranha plant
@SonicTheCutehog
@SonicTheCutehog 2 года назад
When nerfing the combo characters just gives them more combos.
@Appletank8
@Appletank8 2 года назад
On the other hand it gives them all Marthitis, and can't even kill at 200%
@level0maid
@level0maid 2 года назад
Friendly tip, use Robin's rapid jab on somebody's shield with the +10% custom balance :)
@0yaSumi6908
@0yaSumi6908 Год назад
What happens?
@level0maid
@level0maid Год назад
@@0yaSumi6908 it breaks shields
@0yaSumi6908
@0yaSumi6908 Год назад
@@level0maid wtf!? A rapid jab!? I gotta trt this
@level0maid
@level0maid Год назад
@@0yaSumi6908 quick clarification: It probably only does it when at the edge of a platform or at ledge, but I have broken a full shield with a robin rapid jab before when messing w/ custom balance
@0yaSumi6908
@0yaSumi6908 Год назад
@@level0maid your right, i at first tried it normally, and it didnt work, then i did it at the ledge and it did! Thats crazy, also thanks for responding, i know your comment is old
@acevasquez615
@acevasquez615 2 года назад
As a Little Mac main myself, I'd say those are actually pretty normal Mac kill percents
@StrikerElite923
@StrikerElite923 2 года назад
Actually because of how hard he already hits there is a big difference, try it yourself. This legit makes him somewhere in high tier like Ganondorf. Heck it's not even 30% it's 20%. 30% buffed Mac would be top 15. KO Punch just kills some characters at 0 with a 30% buff. But I do think 30% is much and only low and bottom tiers should get 20. Same for top tiers, -20% is good enough.
@jefferydavidson5347
@jefferydavidson5347 2 года назад
The end of the last video: Let’s make Poppt not optimal! The first clip in this video:
@ultragamer8816
@ultragamer8816 2 года назад
Fun fact: a bear without teeth is a gummy bear
@No1tgffgh
@No1tgffgh 2 года назад
This was genuinely funny and I really like the buffs/nerfs. It was fun to watch. Great video!
@tiffanywindsor527
@tiffanywindsor527 2 года назад
You should mod it to where the characters have their stats/power based on how powerful they are in their canon lore. That’d be interesting to see.
@-TheUnkownUser
@-TheUnkownUser Год назад
Bayonetta: This is my kingdom come.
@pieceofbread5311
@pieceofbread5311 2 года назад
Watching Ploppt rage was the most fun I’ve had in a looooooong time.
@ADudeNamedLucky
@ADudeNamedLucky 2 года назад
A versions of this with every character +30% would be super cool
@Terrabyte13
@Terrabyte13 2 года назад
If everyone is super, no one will be.
@Salone_FD
@Salone_FD 2 года назад
@@Terrabyte13 Except for the Smash Mode Shulk of course
@AlmostUselessPenguin
@AlmostUselessPenguin 2 года назад
That would just be 1.3 launch rate
@Jordan-ux6ks
@Jordan-ux6ks 2 года назад
why not just balance everyone in an upward direction, leaving the top tiers untouched? as in high tier gets a ten percent buff, mid tier gets 20, and low gets 30. that way everyone is top tier.
@ADudeNamedLucky
@ADudeNamedLucky 2 года назад
@@AlmostUselessPenguin I mean, I’m pretty sure it also increases damage output.
@griffinbotticello6514
@griffinbotticello6514 2 года назад
8:26 Plant: "Welp guess thats what hopcat victory means." Popp1t: *dies inside*
@ultragamer8816
@ultragamer8816 2 года назад
Fun fact: swimming is just flying in water and flying is just swimming in the air
@StrikerElite923
@StrikerElite923 2 года назад
I'm beginning to think that -30% is too much of a down side, maybe only -20% for every top tier except maybe(?) the top 3 and for the worse characters all the fighters at low and bottom still keeps +20 to 30%, mid tiers get +10%, high tiers should stay the same.
@samg6152
@samg6152 2 года назад
i think that the reason the 'buffed characters' do better on a majority is because it implies that the best absolute top tiers and absolute bottom tiers are 60% different, which i think to be the reason why
@StrikerElite923
@StrikerElite923 2 года назад
I think - and +20% should be good enough for the very good and very bad fighters.
@HikaruOfTheWind
@HikaruOfTheWind 2 года назад
What Poppt didn't see is that Blue Kirby was actually entirely nerfed (you can tell by his colour), so the true Blue Kirby remains undefeatable
@asdqaz01
@asdqaz01 2 года назад
4:20 Pyra and Mythra were my most wanted characters. 100% would have main them even if they would've been low/mid tier if they would still be fun. I've stuck to Byleth when everyone said they were bad, and I would've done the same to Pyra and Mythra
@zekanark943
@zekanark943 2 года назад
Xbc2 is one of my FAVORITE games so i agree with you
@lazypaladin
@lazypaladin 2 года назад
Poppt1: I always Edge-Guard, you'll never see me go off sta- Lil Mac 20% Buff: *I'm going in for the kill! I'm doing it for a thrill!!*
@IxionAC
@IxionAC 2 года назад
This is great! I think I could watch this all day! Get them to do this on the Underdogs channel with teams so we can see some stupidly broken team combos.
@fuzzier9551
@fuzzier9551 2 года назад
Popp1 "I have to do so much effort, and then you hit me once and we are even." Sheik mains laugh
@dxrkness4802
@dxrkness4802 2 года назад
4:26 Hi, Bayonetta main here! Lmao really though we need more Bayos. Including me I know like... 1.
@Tiquono
@Tiquono 2 года назад
They should do this sort of thing in Smash 6 but also add options for recovery and mobility
@diegovaldez927
@diegovaldez927 2 года назад
I genuinely believe that if they just exaggerate the good aspects of the low tiers more without nerfing the top tiers, then all characters would truly feel viable (mainly speaking for Doc, Mac and Ganon).
@DJKokaKola
@DJKokaKola 2 года назад
There are fundamental problems with those three that can't be "made up" by buffs. Doc can't recover. No buffs can fundamentally fix that considering it's a platform fighter. If you buffed Ganon damage-wise, he'll still be comboed, still get edgeguarded, and if he somehow lands a hit it'll almost kill. That's it. Doesn't fix the game, just makes it more inconsistent. Like, it changes rolling a d4 with 2-5 on it to be a d8 with one 8 and the other sides being 1 1 1 2 2 2 3
@ShinyMew76
@ShinyMew76 2 года назад
And removing Mewtwo’s tail hurtbox
@Donut_Guy
@Donut_Guy 2 года назад
I love how Mad Dummy's theme is playing the whole time.
@maximusDAbiker
@maximusDAbiker 2 года назад
Hopcat is a LEGEND! Not only did he beat Blue Kirby, he beat BUFFED Blue Kirby!
@noahsmart8333
@noahsmart8333 2 года назад
This should be an underdogs twist it’s great
@fahdgmari2182
@fahdgmari2182 2 года назад
9:00 famous last words before getting deleted from existence
@illusion2457
@illusion2457 2 года назад
The Young Link bomb exploded before hitting the blast zone
@ultragamer8816
@ultragamer8816 2 года назад
Fun fact: if you stab a bowl of cereal you will be a cereal killer
@Manganimemer
@Manganimemer 2 года назад
4:15 why is it so hard for Smash players to comprehend that some people actually *do* play characters just because they like the character? Like I do understand that most Smash fans literally play no other games but like some people who play Smash actually do just play characters because they like the characters in their home series, myself included. It’s not my fault that some of my favorite games of all time include Xenoblade Chronicles 2, Persona 5 Royal, and Kid Icarus Uprising: I just have good taste 🤷‍♂️
@UniversalGalaxy2
@UniversalGalaxy2 2 года назад
I think it’s because it’s rare to hear about someone who plays a character they like from from their respective game also fit their play style in smash
@sodajerk.7479
@sodajerk.7479 2 года назад
Imagine how Cogger would react to this mode
@WeDogsHowl
@WeDogsHowl 2 года назад
If you invited Jackson, he would've decimated you since you buffed more than half his character pool.
@ScrapsandSlaps
@ScrapsandSlaps 2 года назад
That Young Link kill zoom happened to me in tournament once. Led to a very awkward handshake afterwards
@jaymenspenst3355
@jaymenspenst3355 2 года назад
If anyone wants to try this out, go to the bar on the right of the menu, then options, then smash. Custom balance should be right there.
@InuXAbridged
@InuXAbridged 2 года назад
7:48 I knew Jordan looked like Swaggy
@ratzomimic8987
@ratzomimic8987 2 года назад
4:15 I do play Pyra/Mythra because I love Xenoblade 2 but I also play Bayonetta for the same reason. I exist on both sides of this conversation.
@alexvisan5034
@alexvisan5034 2 года назад
4:25 The REAL videogame saga fan (ej: me with Shulk) : Look, I wouldn't even be mad if that happened, I'll still enjoy playing as them
@sukmykrok3388
@sukmykrok3388 2 года назад
"I BEAT BLUE KIRBY!" HopCat, 2022 Happy new year
@bonezxz
@bonezxz 2 года назад
anyone else notice that only the k rool vs wolf match had the +10% and -30% at the start like hop did one and didnt feel like doing the others
@ultragamer8816
@ultragamer8816 2 года назад
Fun fact: if you work at security at a samsung store you will be a guardian of the galaxy
@JimLStone
@JimLStone 2 года назад
I think it'd be actually balanced if you reduced the changes by 1. So the mid tiers would remain the same, but the high and low tiers would be only 20% changed
@Rubyssbu
@Rubyssbu 2 года назад
Hearing dummy is not something I was expecting
@reactionlessssbu-clips2723
@reactionlessssbu-clips2723 2 года назад
30% is pretty significant if we make it easier for the ones that are 1 lower 1 higher to be just the usual and squish all the buffs and nerfs down it may be more balanced
@LleytonSPD
@LleytonSPD 2 года назад
4:24 hey, I love Xenoblade, but I also really love their moveset, so the fact that I love Xenoblade is kind of a bonus (yes I know it’s a joke)
@ultragamer8816
@ultragamer8816 2 года назад
Fun fact: if you fall out of a plane without a parachute you will fall for the rest of your life
@level0maid
@level0maid 2 года назад
I have a friend who wanted Mythra nerfed (specifically nerf bair, up air, fsmash, and one of her other moves I can't remember) because they really like Xenoblade 2 and want to main Pyra/Mythra and are tired of the hate they get from it. I feel real bad for them, hopefully they get nerfed in the next game like Cloud/Bayo/Corrin/Ryu did so they still feel good but aren't dominating the tier lists
@garradon7602
@garradon7602 2 года назад
Sakurai says that smash bros ultimate is the last smash game
@level0maid
@level0maid 2 года назад
@@garradon7602 I've heard that being tossed around but don't know the source, care to share?
@coolsdebristv489
@coolsdebristv489 2 года назад
It's really hard for me to imagine it being the last. Maybe not everyone coming back.
@Mene0
@Mene0 2 года назад
That DK vs Kirby was hype
@bbenjamin7681
@bbenjamin7681 2 года назад
Guys I found the next doubles twist.
@hambughrr8186
@hambughrr8186 2 года назад
I think there's some changes you should make to the custom balance levels -10%: Bowser +20%: Any character that formerly got the +30% buff other than Dr. Mario, Little Mac and Ganondorf, DK, Dedede, Ice Climbers, Isabelle, Ridley and Mii Swordfighter +30%: Only Dr. Mario, Little Mac and Ganondorf
@jojocatt07
@jojocatt07 2 года назад
That first diddy game is what playing sheik feels like. Nothing kills but good combos
@DaRkLoRd-rc5yu
@DaRkLoRd-rc5yu 2 года назад
I feel like sheik kills now. Her 3 smashes are all pretty good killing at 80-100%. Fair combos to carry off stage is ez on most characters. Teleport kills, bouncing fish kills, grenade kills. Up air and back air both kill at 100-140% on stage but sub 100 if you hit them off stage near borders. Everything else is just combo tools and have insane frame data.
@jojocatt07
@jojocatt07 Год назад
Very true, it’s been a hot minute since I played sheik but I know she’s gotten better
@guschionis7853
@guschionis7853 2 года назад
You should secretly change your switch out with Zach’s so the balanced smash happens
@SimplySammyK
@SimplySammyK 2 года назад
I love poppt so much bless him. Love everyone from the Underdogs but Poppt has to be my fav
@ThePureSynergist
@ThePureSynergist 2 года назад
This is new best thing. Hopcat, my man, you are finding those new amazing content ideas. Let’s see the channel explode. ^_^
@yuvia1452
@yuvia1452 2 года назад
The thumbnail is top tier
@DJHA133
@DJHA133 2 года назад
This video is just what it feels like to main sheik always
@GTSmazhh
@GTSmazhh 2 года назад
This is reversed, exactly what I thought with the first vid! So good to see some of these characters being top tiers and some being so bad now. Because making a character 30% better whilst also making the good character 30% weaker now you have the good characters theoretically being worse than the bad characters. Love this idea though and is so cool to see Gannon so op.
@dipperpines5721
@dipperpines5721 2 года назад
Bro ganon was always op
@GTSmazhh
@GTSmazhh 2 года назад
@Dipper Pines defo not, any character with a good recovery can proper gimp ganon no problem.
@bob-lf4ul
@bob-lf4ul 2 года назад
This should be a underdogs video
@alecpearlman3271
@alecpearlman3271 2 года назад
Idea for underdogs. One player has plus 30% and the other 3 with minus 30%. Kina like one has spirits
@benajmindelgreco6134
@benajmindelgreco6134 Год назад
Mythra up tilt chaining just went from 2 in a row to 358 in a row
@youraveragecrow9574
@youraveragecrow9574 2 года назад
Even if it is his “balanced” smash I love watching the underdogs play some competitive 1v1s
@franklinbrooks9255
@franklinbrooks9255 2 года назад
Suggestion: Hopcat's "Balanced" Smash Doubles?
@kirby_poyo
@kirby_poyo 2 года назад
8:16 oh so that's what the Twitter clip was
@RoboSparkle
@RoboSparkle 2 года назад
In a way, everybody got buffed. The combo characters get to combo for longer and the powerhouses get to KO easier. It's a shame that only stocks count in determining the winner - bring back points mode from Melee?
@brandoncharles4415
@brandoncharles4415 2 года назад
Points Mode? That sounds cool, how did that work? (Never played Melee)
@elitenano
@elitenano 2 года назад
4:25 Yo i didn't know Hop used one of my quotes in his video!!! That's chill
@blueice7906
@blueice7906 2 года назад
Imagine if we balanced smash bros ourselves with spirits, buff the attributes of characters who are weaker. For example every character has the same base spirit so they can all do the same amount of damage they normally do. for example kirby and incineroar weakness are they are slow so just buff them with one speed up or go to a dojo and slightly buff their speed.
@ultragamer8816
@ultragamer8816 2 года назад
Altérnate title: the smash tier list on opposite day
@boogieC4997
@boogieC4997 2 года назад
When you see your 2 best characters are buffed
@be2957
@be2957 2 года назад
Australians would rather neutral get up into a guy charging a smash attack than do a get up attack
@johnlesher3001
@johnlesher3001 2 года назад
you uploaded this on my mother's birthday
@JoelTheParrot
@JoelTheParrot 2 года назад
my buffed characters: Kirby, Sans Kong, Sans, Ridley, Piranha Plant, Morton/Roy/Lemmy, Rosalina & Luma my nerfed characters: Pyra, Technically Mythra, Sora, Teto, Enderman, Hatsune Miku, Squirtle, Technically Ivysaur & Charizard, Young Link That's... Exactly equal in amount of character slots!?!
@circuit255
@circuit255 2 года назад
So... Part 3 with Cogger and part 4 with Rays?
@Donut_Guy
@Donut_Guy 2 года назад
this reminds me to play with MY custom balance. Even Olimar with 30% less attack is annoying
@derekallen6097
@derekallen6097 2 года назад
At this point, Cuckles are basically NFT's
@leotufs7878
@leotufs7878 2 года назад
Poppt got a taste of his own medicine 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@ryanchristian3450
@ryanchristian3450 2 года назад
Balanced smash with the underdogs
@GameXpert64
@GameXpert64 2 года назад
You need to try this with the Anything Can Crit mod
@michaelbuffington7141
@michaelbuffington7141 2 года назад
I love this video idea sooooo much
@andrewtaylor5883
@andrewtaylor5883 2 года назад
I would have loved to see Corrin and Zelda buffs. Corrin Upair chase YOLO UpB would probably kill super early with a 20% buff. Zelda Heels....the TOES
@Bg2006
@Bg2006 2 года назад
I’d still play mythra if she was low tier 1. I like swordes 2. I pick characters that I like and are fun to play Don’t think I’m the only one
@mightybean8212
@mightybean8212 2 года назад
Doubles with a twist: everyone's balanced
@orangepeel4542
@orangepeel4542 2 года назад
I went to my little cousin’s house and he had these always on, I asked him why and he said he used it to indicate which characters were good to his friends
@Justarthie
@Justarthie 7 месяцев назад
I like how steve is only nerfed twice while lucina is nerfed thrice
@miles6711
@miles6711 2 года назад
I like how shiek vs dark pit got cut off and the match right after was young link vs plant as if it wasn’t less exciting
@ultragamer8816
@ultragamer8816 2 года назад
Fun fact: water is just thick air
@ape-in-a-tree9701
@ape-in-a-tree9701 2 года назад
I totally forgot this was a feature
@nostromocult1280
@nostromocult1280 2 года назад
'Halloween thing on a stick' Honestly, I thought he was talking about Caramel Apples. Also a bit weird with No intro.
@Curmudgial
@Curmudgial 2 года назад
I feel like this isn’t balancing the characters, but rather just reversing the tier list. The low tiers are now the only viable ones and the high tiers are awful. The only way to fix this is to only nerf the top tiers without buffing the bottom tiers or buff the bottom tiers without nerfing the top tiers.
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