I just found your channel today and really enjoy these videos. I'm a revert after 47 years outside the Church. Mary gently guided me home, and I'll always be grateful. Some of the comments here by those who are dead set on disrespecting Our Lady and minimizing her role in Jesus' life and ministry would be laughable if they weren't so sad. When Mary is ready to bring them home they will understand her holiness.
@@Harbinger290God sends us signs & messages such as the Shroud, Eucharistic miracles & Marian apparitions, which when verified as authentic after much discernment, often over centuries, gives us fresh insights & spiritual understanding. The Shroud is yet to be approved, however, the evidence incl errors in carbon dating testing 40 yrs ago, points to its potential authenticity. Likewise, very few of the 000’s of claimed Lourdes healing miracles have been approved because the CC can’t afford the scandal of approved false claims.
Really appreciate your videos as someone who was raised nominally Protestant (didn't go to church very often), got into paganism and atheism in my youth, and am now looking forward to starting RCIA in September.
Thats what our problem is. We scrutinize with absolute worldly eyes. We want to justify from the hearts of selfishness and intolerance. Its just the way it is. 🙏🙏🙏
From Douay-Rheims Jn. 2:3 And the wine failing, the mother of Jesus saith to him: They have no wine. Vs 4: And Jesus saith to her: Woman, what is that to me, AND TO THEE? My hour is not yet come. Vs.5: His mother saith to the waiters: Whatsoever he shall say to you, do ye. Though it was not His hour, Mary brought His hour to Him. And in her telling the waiters to do whatever Jesus said to them, Mary certainly knew of the miracle Jesus was about to perform! Talk about Intercessory Power, the Blessed Virgin Mary has more than all other intercessors who ever existed, or ever will exist.
Bishop Fulton Scheen has a wonderful commentary on the Marriage Feast of Cana. It was if Mary and Jesus both realizing this miracle would be opening the door to the Passion. Imagine the intensity of the moment. Mary without sin, loved more deeply, more purely then any other women and mother.; the love between the two was spectacularly holy, deep and pure. Saints have said that with the Presentaion of Jesus at the Temple, Simeon told Mary much about Jesus's future passion. Simeon also said Mary's heart would be pierced also. Again, Mary knows the power of her words and the future suffering her Son and her pain in watching Jesus, her beloved Son, her Savior endure this.
I've learned so much from this channel. In particular, how to respond to anti-catholic rhetoric. Im a convert from evangelicalism, and it's been quite a display of hateful comments. I love this video, so insightful.
Friend, I’m just curious, where do you find in your bible where any person was born sinless. God says we are ALL sinners very clearly, WITH no exceptions. Just curious why you believe what you believe?
@@atrifle8364 _@RaiderWolf-yd6nm - yeah, I think y'all never read what you write._ No, you Catholics believe telling the truth about Mary, that she was a sinner and she had children after Jesus is "hateful". It's just like Muslims with Mohammad.
Mary has these virtues: she is humble, faithful and obedient to God ("be done unto me according to thy word"). She is reflective (Luke 2:19). She is full of praise (Luke 1:46-49) for God her savior. She perseveres in the face great challenges and obstacles. She told the servants to do whatever Jesus tells them to do (John 2:1-11). And she showed true devotion and loyalty to Jesus when she stood at the foot of the cross (John 19:25-29). If I were more like her, then I could better serve Jesus and build up His Kingdom on earth.
So true, how many times I would point out that the woman in Revelation was referring to Israel, when it so clearly is not. I believe that John Bergsma , who was also an ex Evangelical pastor, pointed out the same. He said in an interview that he knew that the explanation that it was referring to Israel was “lame”, but what else could it by referencing, Mary? Absolutely not, never. That is a Catholic fallacy. Well, it’s kind of hard to get around. The woman is Mary. She is the New Ark. And just as the Ark was holy and was to respected as something very sacred, so is the Blessed Mother.
In Revelation 12, we see a tableaux with a female figure bearing a child. We know the child is the Messiah by the reference, "destined to rule all the nations with an iron rod" -- which recalls the Messianic prophecy in Psalm 2:7 - "The Lord said to me, 'You are my son; this day I have begotten you. Ask of me and I will give you the nations for an inheritance and the ends of the earth for your possession. You shall rule them with an iron rod; you shall shatter them like an earthen dish.'" Now, if the child in Revelation 12 is Jesus, the woman from whom he issues can only be Mary. Here's why: We see a vision of her in the heavens, clothed in the sun, wearing a crown, a symbol of royalty: "A great sign appeared in the sky, a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars. She was with child and wailed aloud in pain as she labored to give birth. Then another sign appeared in the sky; it was a huge red dragon, with seven heads and ten horns, and on its heads were seven diadems. Its tail swept away a third of the stars in the sky and hurled them down to the earth. Then the dragon stood before the woman about to give birth, to devour her child when she gave birth. She gave birth to a son, a male child, destined to rule all the nations with an iron rod. Her child was caught up to God and his throne. The woman herself fled into the desert where she had a place prepared by God, that there she might be taken care of for twelve hundred and sixty days... "When the dragon saw that it had been thrown down to the earth, it pursued the woman who had given birth to the male child. But the woman was given the two wings of the great eagle, so that she could fly to her place in the desert, where, far from the serpent, she was taken care of for a year, two years, and a half-year. The serpent, however, spewed a torrent of water out of his mouth after the woman to sweep her away with the current. But the earth helped the woman and opened its mouth and swallowed the flood that the dragon spewed out of its mouth. Then the dragon became angry with the woman and went off to wage war against the rest of her offspring, those who keep God's commands and bear witness to Jesus." Queen of Heaven🤔 Much is made of the title Queen of Heaven by those who attack Catholicism and Marian devotion. The allusion is always to the pagan pantheons and to the mother of the gods, often mother in a very carnal sense of other pagan deities. The Canaanite worship of the "Queen of Heaven" condemned by the prophets is mentioned, as is the worship of Diana of the Ephesians, devotion to whom was exceeding popular before the Gospel arrived among the pagans. It is said that Catholicism at the Council of Ephesus restored this pagan devotion under the cover of devotion to Mary. The history of that Council given above shows the absurdity, and the intellectual dishonesty, of that claim! One might as well claim with respect to Jesus that Christians worship a mere man, since to arrive at this conclusion the Church's teaching must be ripped from its context and distorted to fit a preconceived judgement. What then does it mean for Mary to be the Queen of Heaven? In the Old Testament monarchy the Queen of the Davidic Kingdom was the Queen Mother. The Kings, for reasons of state and human weakness, had many wives, none of whom fittingly could be called Queen. That honor was reserved for the mother of the King, whose authority far surpassed the many "queens" married to the king. We see this is the role Bathsheba played with respect to King Solomon and the occasions when the Queen Mother acted as regent on behalf of juvenile successors to the throne. The role of the Queen Mother, therefore, is a prophetic type of the Kingdom role of Mary, just as the role of the Davidic King is a prophetic type of the Kingdom role of Jesus. Jesus inherited the Kingdom promised to David, who was told that one of his descendants would rule forever. The angel Gabriel revealed this fact to Mary at her Annunciation, Behold, you will conceive in your womb and bear a son, and you shall name him Jesus. He will be great and will be called Son of the Most High, and the Lord God will give him the throne of David his father, and he will rule over the house of Jacob forever, and of his kingdom there will be no end." (Luke 1:31-33) Aside from the prophetic types present in the Kingdom of Judah, there is also the text of Psalm 45, which when speaking of the Kingdom of God also speaks of its Queen. [6] Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom is a right sceptre. [7] Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows. [8] All thy garments smell of myrrh, and aloes, and cassia, out of the ivory palaces, whereby they have made thee glad. [9] Kings' daughters were among thy honourable women: upon thy right hand did stand the queen in gold of Ophir. [10] Hearken, O daughter, and consider, and incline thine ear; forget also thine own people, and thy father's house; [11] So shall the king greatly desire thy beauty: for he is thy Lord; and worship thou him. (Psalm 45:6-11, KJV) That Kingdom ruled by God is the same as the Kingdom ruled eternally by the Son of David. It is not an earthly kingdom, though it is present on earth in the Church, but a heavenly kingdom, the Kingdom of God. The Queen of that Kingdom is the Blessed Virgin Mary, the Mother of the Lord God Jesus Christ The woman spoken of in Revelation 12 is Mary. A few observations: • The woman is a great sign and appears in heaven. This is the Catholic view of Mary--that she has an important role in heaven and in the plan of redemption. • She is clothed with the sun, has the moon under her feet, and a crown of 12 stars. In the passage in Gen 37:9-10 the sun, moon and stars bow down to Joseph. This point is often missed by commentators. Therefore, Mary has a role similar to Joseph's in providing redemption to God's people. Joseph "saved" the Israelites and ruled over them just as Mary "saves" the church and rules over it. • Mary gives birth to the Messiah. This is the only literal meaning of the text. • Satan was cast down to earth as a result of events surrounding Christ's birth. Satan went after the child Jesus with a vengeance as we see in Herod's decree to kill the children. • Mary escapes to the desert--to Egypt, for safety and to protect Jesus. She was there for three and a half years. • Jesus was snatched up to God and His throne at His ascension. • Satan was unable to harm the child Jesus so he went off to destroy the rest of Mary's offspring. Notice who these are--those who obey God's commandments and hold to the testimony of Jesus. Mary's other offspring are the church. She had no other children other than Jesus. She is the spiritual mother of the church.
The woman of Rev 12 is helpless and weak and flees from the devil and hides. The catholic Mary floated up to heaven and is on her throne ever since as queen of heaven. Which one is it? Is she a scared chicken running from the devil or is she queen of heaven and fights the devil? Well, none of that maters as long as you drop your dime in the collection plate, you are free th believe what you want. Nobody care.
@@peterzinya1 What John is describing is what God sees. God sees time (past, present, and future) all at once because He is outside of time. We humans see time in linear fashion because we are in time. revelation 12 is not one narrative, but several that are interwoven and expressed as one narrative.
This is still a practice of some of our cultures here in S.A. Cousins referred to as a brother/sister, especially where a cousin is from a mom or the dads sibbling.
Here in the States we refer to unrelated people as being our brothers or sisters all the time. The only time it's frowned upon is by Protestants when they try to force scripture into their own theology.
When God created the Angels, He created them with different levels of Authority, gifts, and closeness to Him. We see the same with humans, as Jesus refenced many times there will be seats of honor at the Table. I am sure that outside the 3 persons of the Trinity/Divinity; among us created creatures the highest position next to God will be that of Mary. In her earthly life no-one (except Jesus of course) was as humble or submitted to the Will of God as perfectly as she did. There is no telling what honors and authorities she has been given in Heaven. We Catholics only make refence to a few of them. If that alone blows the minds of protestants into un-belief; imagine what the reality in heaven will do to them.
_I am sure that outside the 3 persons of the Trinity/Divinity; among us created creatures the highest position next to God will be that of Mary._ I am sure that's false. Mary isn't even listed in the faith chapter of Hebrews, chapter 11. And Mary isn't mentioned again after those couple of chapters in the New Testament Gospels. And Jesus says there is no one greater born of women than John the Baptist. So based on what the Bible says, that won't be the case. But Catholics don't care about what the Bible says. That's why Catholicism is a false religion, not any more legitimate than Mormonism or Islam. *11 “Assuredly, I say to you, **_among those born of women there has not risen one greater than John the Baptist;_** but he who is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.* _-- Matthew 11:11_
@@RaiderWolf-yd6nm Your own logic betrays you. Without the Catholic Faith and it Apostolic Authority you would not have a bible. So mr false theology based on a non-bible of your own making and a false sola scriptura theology; you are ignored for the blatant errors in your own thinking. When you have something of substance you can come back to the adult table and try again.
_How bad the consequences Eve brought to the humanity, greater the blessings The New Eve brings to us. It’s all in God’s design._ How can she be the new Eve if she was a sinner just like the first Eve? That's based on false Catholic doctrine of immaculate conception.
@@RaiderWolf-yd6nm Sin comes from one couple, grace comes from The Mother and The Son. New creation started with new Eve, created by her Son the Creator who was, is, and always will be outside of time and had infused her limitless grace merited from His crucifixion.
@@tony1685You mean that your heretical Protestant view doesn’t support it. In Rev 12, as the devil, St Michael & baby are persons, it would be consistent for the Woman to be a person ie Mary, who is giving birth which Israel, a country, can’t. Likewise, do you see the connection of Woman Gen 3:15, Jn 2 1-12 Jn 19 26 & Rev 12? Your argument falls flat!
Does disciple John not know who Mary is? If he does he would have called her by name! Read Rev 12 yourself this time. The woman you speak of is the bride of Christ, His Church. Skeptics say Ot & NT church some only say Nt church. Where Mary comes from in this chapter, even John does not know.
@@tknciliba4743Fair point, still speculative as are Israel & Mary. As Mary is regarded as the Queen of Heaven (type of Esther), she can also be regarded as the Woman of Rev 12 & Gen 3:15, Jn 2 1-12 & Jn 19 26
@@geoffjs I have read the Bible & nowhere is it said that there is a queen in heaven Ot and Nt. But you insist, please direct me to Ot and Nt verses of this queen of heaven. Gen 3:15 God is talking to the Serpent. Jesus will bruise the serpents head whilst the serpent will bruise His heel. This is a Judgement for Satan! I can't wait for those verses of her in heaven, Isaiah & Ezekiel clearly described heaven, Daniel abit.
At home in a Catholic environment we rarely or never referred to the blessed virgin Mary as just "Mary" on its own. Usually to be a little casual, we would say "Our Lady". Of course we give a little head bow when we mention her name also, after a bigger bow for the name of Jesus, in the Hail Mary.
I don't bow my head at the "Virgin Mary". The only time I have is in the middle of Mass. Then again I will also refer to the apostles simply by their name, rather than always putting "saint" in front of it either.
Catholic beliefs about Mary: 1. Mary, as are all who are saved, was saved by the blood of Christ. She is the greatest of Saints and her prayers for us are efficacious. She is a fully human creature and not in any way a goddess. Her role is to bring us to her son, Jesus Christ. 2. She is the Immaculate Conception who was filled with grace from her first moments, she is the Ark of the New Covenant and the New Eve 3. Mary is the "Theotokos," or the "God-bearer," i.e., the Mother of God 4. Mary remained both sinless and a virgin her entire life 5. Mary was assumed into Heaven by the power of God, where she was crowned Queen of Heaven
Is this list of 5 things Catholic's believe about Mary a rendition of the Catholic church's sacred tradition concerning Mary? Is there more? Where did you find this? In the Catechism? Is believing numbers 2, 4, &5 necessary? Numbers 1 & 3 are true, and the back half of number 2 is as well. She is the New Eve. Obedient where Eve wasn't.
@@ralf547- The faith asks for assent, ie don't argue in public. Mary can take time to work through for Protestants, although it's largely about accepting the consequences of the full Divinity of Christ.
Protestantism is not about the Truth but is based on emotion & certainly not logic. Pope John Paul II said that we need the two lungs of Faith & Reason Fides et Ratio!
I'd love for you to address my posts here with the logic that Protestants are missing. Help guide your brothers and sisters to the truth.. or better still.. be guided if you are wrong.
@@catholicskeptic i can prove he's totally wrong and it's all about Truth. tell me -- do you believe God's church upholds Truth -- as 1 Tim 3:15 clearly shows us?
@@panes840 we all have authority, Sir -- it's all about reasoning and allowing the Holy Spirit to guide us! don't you care what God's Word makes clear? do you enjoy people lying to you and your family? but according to the Bible, i do have Him as Authority.
@@RaiderWolf-yd6nm It was not the Church that held Mary is the highest esteem and reverence, it was God Himself. “If y’all have any problems with Mary , you better damn well get over them because she’s the Mother of God !” Mary as the first Person To say Yes to Gods plan for redemption Mary Was the First person to say thy will Be done Mary thru who the WORD was made Flesh Mary is the only person that can say Jesus, flesh of my flesh. Bone of my bone. And that is VERY special👏👏...
@@RaiderWolf-yd6nm That would be the Word of God preserved by the Catholic Church as the bible, right?😘😘 As Tertullian once said, "Error is a corruption of truth, truth must then precede". Moses was before Abiron, Dathan and Core; the angels were before the devils, Lucifer was good before he fell into eternal darkness etc. Consider the verse, "They went out from us, but they were not of us. For if they had been of us, they would no doubt have remained with us. "For those who spread lies about the Catholic Church: their ignorance is their lack of knowledge, their stupidity is their wisdom, and their truth is falsehood In attacking the Catholic Church, Protestants sever their own roots No protestant should quote Scripture at all, for he has no means of knowing which books are inspired; Unless of course, he wants to accept the authority of the Catholic Church for that Numbers 16:1-35l Those who deliberately ignore the errors of those who have gone before us in recorded history are doomed to repeat them again. Dispensation of authority by GOD over His flock is the same today as it was then. GOD is the same yesterday, today, and forever. Apparently todays Heritics did not know this or They ignored the fact. "But these people, like irrational animals born by nature for capture and destruction, revile things that they do not understand, and in their destruction they will also be destroyed, suffering wrong as payment for wrongdoing. 2Peter 2:12-13
Unfortunately, Protestants will refuse to believe about Mary and her role with her Son in the scheme of salvation, because it is not in their Bible. They reject Sacred Tradition, and the teaching authority of the Church. Even though these are inspired by the Holy Spirit.
I have been asking about and searching for the Sacred Tradition that is purported to be from the Holy Spirit. I never get a satisfying answer. Perhaps I am expecting too much? But how can I expect anything less if this is divine revelation equal in authority with God's Word. If it is Spirit inspired, it should not be a secret. It should be readily available. But it seems to be something Catholics can appeal to to substantiate beliefs and practices Protestants can't accept because they aren't found in the bible. So if you can direct me?
@@geoffjs You assume everyone who reads these early fathers is supposed to believe every word from them. Why dont you read Joseph Smith, then you will become Mormon.
@@geoffjs the early fathers are helpful, but not infallible/inerrant. They are nearly united in what they wrote on Communion and Baptism. On other issues they agree and disagree with Catholic teaching.
Mary says, 'They have no wine.' Christ says, 'Woman, What have I to do with thee, my hour has not yet come.' Mary says, 'Yes it has.' and did Christ argue the point? Nope, He got on with it.
@@georgeel-vp7sk - Christ is Mary's Creator. Mary is the handmaiden of the Lord, not us, and not of the people at the Wedding at Cana. Asking Mary because "Christ has to listen" is to not quite understand the relationship between them and between Mary/Christ and us. Mary will always intercede for us, but she's going to ask for what will be good for us and God's will, like a good mother, not necessarily what we asked for.
Brant Pitre explains it a bit different. "The hour" Christ is referring to is his Bridegroom moment at the last supper when he fully reveals himself as the promised bridegroom of Israel and forms the marriage (New Covenant). Our Lady saw the wedding as a great moment for him to do so, because it was the role of the Groom to provide the Wine. So he let her know it wasn't "that time" yet, but went ahead and performed the miracle as a kind of foreshadowing. So his miracle at the wedding is both "No" and "Yes".
2 Peter 1- 20:21 Know this first of all, that there is no prophecy of scripture that is a matter of personal interpretation, 21 for no prophecy ever came through human will; but rather human beings moved by the holy Spirit spoke under the influence of God.
1 TIM. 3:15, and it does NOT mean that the Church is the source or creator of divine Truth. Paul is saying the Church upholds, and holds firm to the Truth as revealed in His Word. So when a church departs from that Truth, it is to be abandoned and avoided.
@@davidvanriper60Your interpretation, I’ll go with the proven one from His One True Church. Other than the CC & Orthodox, there are no other “churches”
@@davidvanriper60 Of course it means Church. Churches have altars, believers dont. 'So if you are offering your gift at the altar, and there remember that your brother has something against you, leave your gift there before the altar and go; first be reconciled to your brother, and then come and offer your gift. ' Matthew 5:22-23. Don't get stuck on 'either or', there's so much more. It's 'both and". Yes, we were all baptized into His body, but he built us a church, the Church. It's both.
Just common sense Mary is the mother and the vessel of the Son of God that is our Lord Jesus Christ. If Mary is not so important why God used her to be part of the salvation of mankind and just do nothing. That’s the problem of the Protestants as far as we Catholics are concerned we are one big family with the grace of God!!! Praise and glory to Him for using Mary as without a woman there’s no family. I love you God!!!✝️❤️🕊
_Just common sense Mary is the mother and the vessel of the Son of God that is our Lord Jesus Christ. If Mary is not so important why God used her to be part of the salvation of mankind and just do nothing._ She is not. She isn't anything in particular. Jesus said John the Baptist is greater than she is. *28 For I say to you, among those born of women there is not a greater prophet than John the Baptist; but he who is least in the kingdom of God is greater than he.”* _-- Luke 7:28_ *11 Truly I say to you, among those born of women there has not arisen anyone greater than John the Baptist! Yet the one who is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.* _-- Matthew 11:11_ Mary is nobody in particular: *47 Then one said to Him, “Look, Your mother and Your brothers are standing outside, seeking to speak with You.”* *48 But He answered and said to the one who told Him, “Who is My mother and who are My brothers?” 49 And He stretched out His hand toward His *disciples and said, “Here are My mother and My brothers! 50 For whoever does the will of My Father in heaven is My brother and sister and mother.”* _-- Matthew 12:47-50_
@@RaiderWolf-yd6nm Luke 1:28 "And coming to her, he said, "Hail, full of grace, the Lord is with you." Luke 1:41-42a "When Elizabeth heard Mary's greeting, the infant leaped in her womb, and Elizabeth, filled with the holy Spirit, cried out in a loud voice and said, "Most blessed are you among women..."
@@RaiderWolf-yd6nm Many Protestant Preachers converted to Catholicism because of Virgin Mary the mother of Christ. Ask them why and now they said that the Catholic Church is the fullness of truth!!! Dig more deeper and read the full history of Christianity from the beginning and use your common sense eh. God is more than just the Bible His words are immeasurable not just contain in one holy book the Bible that compiled by Catholics old and new testament for hundreds of years and now being used by all Christians denominations without the Catholic there is no Bible.
@@jammuncada1433 _@RaiderWolf-yd6nm Well, if she is not important God can just send His son Jesus Christ here on earth without Mary. Meaning she is not nothing!!!_ Are you going to pay attention to what Jesus said? Doesn't it matter what Jesus said in Matthew 12? Jesus disagrees with you. Where does it say Mary is all that important? Obviously God, who wrote the Bible disagrees also because she isn't mentioned except for a couple of chapters and a few verses in the Bible. God left her out of most of it after that. So I believe God that she isn't all that you say she is.
Excellent work, Hugh! Illogical Protestant thinking is the issue, they don’t make much sense, very incoherent which is typical, proving that what they think & believe has consequences! For example, scripture says not to add or remove from scripture but that is not the same as proving sola Scriptura. Authority can be expressed in the context of interpretation & its binding nature Mt 16 18-19 & the power to act in an authoritative manner, like the Magisterium on official teaching on faith & morals. Luther didn’t have authority to add the word ALONE to Rom 3:28, neither to remove 7 books Authority is one of the obvious areas of Protestant inconsistency. They incorrectly stress sola Scriptura which via specific texts, can’t be proven, yet you expect Catholics to prove every aspect of Catholicism. So the authority of false sola Scriptura is your focus & yet the confusion, division & scandal of 000’s of sects caused by unbiblical personal interpretation is not of Jesus who willed unity Jn 17 11-23. Without hierarchy & unifying authority, no entity from family to corporates & govt can be sustainable. Did you give your children & employees unfettered freedom to do what they like without them recognising & respecting your authority? Now think Protestantism, it’s heretical & unworkable! Never has there ever been a contradiction or error on any definitive teaching on faith & morals in the CC for 2000 years. You can’t explain that, or its longevity, in spite of sinful men, other than with divine authority. Why do you reject the Truth, it is what it is! Apart from being unbiblical, sola Scriptura was unworkable for the first 1500 yrs of Christianity as there were no mass printed bibles until the 16th century and, even then, most people were illiterate until recent centuries. From the time of Christ, the deposit of Faith has comprised Sacred Tradition complementing Sacred Scripture under the unifying authoritative interpretation of the Magisterium, guided by the Holy Spirit, a reliable & objective three legged stool that Protestantism obviously lacks. Given the lack of such authority from Jesus, Protestantism clutches futilely at sola Scriptura with an incomplete bible claiming guidance from the Holy Spirit, which is obviously lacking given the scandal of 000’s of sects with their many “truths”, the cause & scourge of relativism in todays woke world! If you can’t see the correlation, give it some thought!
When Jesus was on the Cross and said "Woman, behold your son," he was walking his talk with reference to something he said earlier in Mathew 12:50, Mark 3:35, and Luke 8:21. Like you said, Jesus said everything for a reason.. verified by scripture.
@MrGoreta3407 The scriptures you refer to in context tell us the priority of who true family is, that our family in Christ takes precedence over biological family. It is not about Mary or Christ's relationship with her, but addressing the importance of each of us belonging to Him. It is not refuting the other scriptures I gave. When I was a Protestant I so often had Protestant congregants trying to use scripture against scripture. It is the folly of sola scriptura. The Church came before the New Testament documents were ever collected into a canon. Generation after generation lived and served the Lord for over 3 centuries before the canon of the New Testament was even established. Thus the view of going by scripture alone, is irrational, utterly unhistorical and a fantasy.
@catholicskeptic I'm not sure how you can say it has nothing to do with Jesus's relationship with Mary when Jesus specifically and literally says that anyone that does the will of God is his mother. Likewise, anyone that does the will of God is his brother. This is why Mary and John went on to live together. John and Mary were Mother and Son in the eyes of Christ. It's a direct connection, a complete answer, scripturally backed, and consistent. If this were to symbolize Mary being the Mother of all believers, why didn't Jesus give her to Peter (since catholic-wise, the Church starts with him)? I am not sola scriptura, I just believe (as Catholics say they believe) that the Bible is the Word of God and true.. so the Bible should confirm or at least not contradict extra-biblical assertions. Thank you for your time and I hope we can dig deeper.
@@MrGogeta3407- To deny Jesus had a physical mother denies the Incarnation of God via a virgin. The use of "woman" instead of "mother" on the Cross by Jesus suggests strongly that He is the New Adam. The need to have someone take care of his mother suggests strongly her perpetual virginity. Peter already had a job as head of the Church. John was there at his Passion (the only apostle apparently to do so) and arguably got the more important role
Wanna talk about science and the topic of DNA? We all know that each person’s genetic makeup is a combination of both biological parents. In Jesus’ case, His DNA is 100% of His mother since he had no biological father. Saint Joseph was only his adopted father, not biological. So, if one blasphemes against the Blessed Mother of God, one actually blasphemes against God Himself. God gave the commandment of giving honor to your parents. God would be a liar and a hypocrite to have given the commandment but did not follow it Himself, to respect and honor His own mother. Therefore, if His mother is respected and honored by Him, SHOULDN’T we DO the same??? Is she NOT good enough for you? Stop all the insanity from disobedience and protesting because that’s what the devil devours. Think about it!
His DNA doesn't have to be 100% of His mothers. God can do this any way He wishes. Mary is not God and is not the creator of Jesus. Blaspheming against Mary is not the same as blaspheming against God. Although I don't understand how some people can call Mary just a sack or container when they would never refer to their own mother in such a way.
@@StringofPearls55 So you believe God cannot do as He wishes, and Mary is the same as her child? I just thought @CocoWynn had gone too far. And some Protestants worry that Catholics go too far with venerating Mary, go figure. I suppose it is also a strawman to point out if all Jesus DNA came from His mother, then HE would be a She?
@@dave_ecclectic Nobody ever said and Catholics never taught that God can't do as he wishes- STRAWMAN # 1. Nobody ever said and Catholics never taught that Mary is God- STRAWMAN #2. Nobody ever said and Catholics never taught that Mary created God- STRAWMAN #3. Nobody ever said and Catholics never taught that blaspheming Mary is the same as blaspheming God- STRAWMAN #4. Jesus was conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of the Virgin Mary and became man. @CocoWynn made an interesting point. If you've got questions or even disagreements that's fine and welcome. But please, think twice before bearing false witness. It's highly unbecoming not to mention a grave sin especially when you're, intentionally trying to damage others.
@@StringofPearls55 well much of the RCC is true. In fact, remove the accretion nonsense and its spot on. attempt reasonable discussion requiring RC defense and its defenders fall short often. the word exegesis often unravels even the catholic. in accordance with 1 Peter 3:15....YOUR SO CALLED POPE, would you like to step up and try?
Catholic school taught us to pray to the Father only. We were not taught any of this Mary devotion. We could however ask a saint to pray on our behalf.
2 Timothy 4:3-4 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
Yes, that's Protestantism from the view of the Catholic faith. Thankfully there is more to it than that, but itching ears is a huge problem in Protestantism. That's why there's no way to even count properly all the different groups that fall into the category.
For most Protestants, no explanation is possible, for most Catholics, no explanation is necessary. The difference is that one finds understanding by believing but not vice versa.
There are almost as many sects and beliefs as there are heads; this one will not admit Baptism; that one rejects the Sacrament of the altar; another places another world between the present one and the day of judgment; some teach that Jesus Christ is not God. There is not an individual, however clownish he may be, who does not claim to be inspired by the Holy Ghost, and who does not put forth as prophecies his ravings and dreams. they are purveyors of ‘self-centered worship.' You may get people to come to those churches, and you may have church growth. But you will not have church impact. The reason is that church becomes increasingly like the culture. People go in, see a skit, listen to some music, hear a soothing sermon, and think they have done their Christian duty. They are entering the exact precarious position the mainline found itself in the '60s and '70s." if salvation is by "faith only" it excludes even faith gained by reading the Bible.😁
The woman sign in Revelation is Israel as referenced in the Old Testament. Please read Isaiah 26 15-17. Isaiah 9 verse 6 shows that the child of Israel is Jesus Christ.
How does an entire nation give birth to a single child? This is a moment where Scripture is being edited. There is a woman in Revelation giving birth to a child. Woman has been crossed out and Israel put in it's place.
In Revelation 12, we see a tableaux with a female figure bearing a child. We know the child is the Messiah by the reference, "destined to rule all the nations with an iron rod" -- which recalls the Messianic prophecy in Psalm 2:7 - "The Lord said to me, 'You are my son; this day I have begotten you. Ask of me and I will give you the nations for an inheritance and the ends of the earth for your possession. You shall rule them with an iron rod; you shall shatter them like an earthen dish.'" Now, if the child in Revelation 12 is Jesus, the woman from whom he issues can only be Mary. Here's why: We see a vision of her in the heavens, clothed in the sun, wearing a crown, a symbol of royalty: "A great sign appeared in the sky, a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars. She was with child and wailed aloud in pain as she labored to give birth. Then another sign appeared in the sky; it was a huge red dragon, with seven heads and ten horns, and on its heads were seven diadems. Its tail swept away a third of the stars in the sky and hurled them down to the earth. Then the dragon stood before the woman about to give birth, to devour her child when she gave birth. She gave birth to a son, a male child, destined to rule all the nations with an iron rod. Her child was caught up to God and his throne. The woman herself fled into the desert where she had a place prepared by God, that there she might be taken care of for twelve hundred and sixty days... "When the dragon saw that it had been thrown down to the earth, it pursued the woman who had given birth to the male child. But the woman was given the two wings of the great eagle, so that she could fly to her place in the desert, where, far from the serpent, she was taken care of for a year, two years, and a half-year. The serpent, however, spewed a torrent of water out of his mouth after the woman to sweep her away with the current. But the earth helped the woman and opened its mouth and swallowed the flood that the dragon spewed out of its mouth. Then the dragon became angry with the woman and went off to wage war against the rest of her offspring, those who keep God's commands and bear witness to Jesus." Queen of Heaven Much is made of the title Queen of Heaven by those who attack Catholicism and Marian devotion. The allusion is always to the pagan pantheons and to the mother of the gods, often mother in a very carnal sense of other pagan deities. The Canaanite worship of the "Queen of Heaven" condemned by the prophets is mentioned, as is the worship of Diana of the Ephesians, devotion to whom was exceeding popular before the Gospel arrived among the pagans. It is said that Catholicism at the Council of Ephesus restored this pagan devotion under the cover of devotion to Mary. The history of that Council given above shows the absurdity, and the intellectual dishonesty, of that claim! One might as well claim with respect to Jesus that Christians worship a mere man, since to arrive at this conclusion the Church's teaching must be ripped from its context and distorted to fit a preconceived judgement. What then does it mean for Mary to be the Queen of Heaven? In the Old Testament monarchy the Queen of the Davidic Kingdom was the Queen Mother. The Kings, for reasons of state and human weakness, had many wives, none of whom fittingly could be called Queen. That honor was reserved for the mother of the King, whose authority far surpassed the many "queens" married to the king. We see this is the role Bathsheba played with respect to King Solomon and the occasions when the Queen Mother acted as regent on behalf of juvenile successors to the throne. The role of the Queen Mother, therefore, is a prophetic type of the Kingdom role of Mary, just as the role of the Davidic King is a prophetic type of the Kingdom role of Jesus. Jesus inherited the Kingdom promised to David, who was told that one of his descendants would rule forever. The angel Gabriel revealed this fact to Mary at her Annunciation, Behold, you will conceive in your womb and bear a son, and you shall name him Jesus. He will be great and will be called Son of the Most High, and the Lord God will give him the throne of David his father, and he will rule over the house of Jacob forever, and of his kingdom there will be no end." (Luke 1:31-33) Aside from the prophetic types present in the Kingdom of Judah, there is also the text of Psalm 45, which when speaking of the Kingdom of God also speaks of its Queen. [6] Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom is a right sceptre. [7] Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows. [8] All thy garments smell of myrrh, and aloes, and cassia, out of the ivory palaces, whereby they have made thee glad. [9] Kings' daughters were among thy honourable women: upon thy right hand did stand the queen in gold of Ophir. [10] Hearken, O daughter, and consider, and incline thine ear; forget also thine own people, and thy father's house; [11] So shall the king greatly desire thy beauty: for he is thy Lord; and worship thou him. (Psalm 45:6-11, KJV) That Kingdom ruled by God is the same as the Kingdom ruled eternally by the Son of David. It is not an earthly kingdom, though it is present on earth in the Church, but a heavenly kingdom, the Kingdom of God. The Queen of that Kingdom is the Blessed Virgin Mary, the Mother of the Lord God Jesus Christ The woman spoken of in Revelation 12 is Mary. A few observations: • The woman is a great sign and appears in heaven. This is the Catholic view of Mary--that she has an important role in heaven and in the plan of redemption. • She is clothed with the sun, has the moon under her feet, and a crown of 12 stars. In the passage in Gen 37:9-10 the sun, moon and stars bow down to Joseph. This point is often missed by commentators. Therefore, Mary has a role similar to Joseph's in providing redemption to God's people. Joseph "saved" the Israelites and ruled over them just as Mary "saves" the church and rules over it. • Mary gives birth to the Messiah. This is the only literal meaning of the text. • Satan was cast down to earth as a result of events surrounding Christ's birth. Satan went after the child Jesus with a vengeance as we see in Herod's decree to kill the children. • Mary escapes to the desert--to Egypt, for safety and to protect Jesus. She was there for three and a half years. • Jesus was snatched up to God and His throne at His ascension. • Satan was unable to harm the child Jesus so he went off to destroy the rest of Mary's offspring. Notice who these are--those who obey God's commandments and hold to the testimony of Jesus. Mary's other offspring are the church. She had no other children other than Jesus. She is the spiritual mother of the church.🤔
As the devil, St Michael & Jesus are persons, it would be consistent for the Woman to be a person ie Mary, who is giving birth which Israel, a country, can’t. Likewise, do you see the connection of Woman Gen 3:15, Jn 2 1-12 Jn 19 26 & Rev 12? Your argument falls flat!
@@geoffjs No it would not if the Revelation is about how God saved the world through Israel... Did you read the Old Testament scripture where it's established clearly and directly that God views Israel as a woman in labor and pain that gives birth to Jesus Christ? That's not "my argument," that's flat-out Bible. Please read (or reread) Isaiah 26 15-17. Isaiah 9 verse 6 shows that the child of Israel is Jesus Christ.
@@MrGogeta3407I’ve reread Isa 26 15-17 & whilst recognising the woman in labour, see no link to Israel. Not sure how you connect Isa 9:6 God tried to use Israel to save the world but they rejected Him as Messiah so He est the CC Mt 16 18-19 refer Isaiah 22:22 which you’ll probably disagree with. Israel is the olive tree to which Jesus grafted His Church. The Jews are our older brothers & our faith is based on Judaism but includes the revelation of Christ incl the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass Jn 6 51-58 which is based on Jewish worship. See also Mal 1:11 with gentiles offering pure sacrifice at all times in all places ie the unbloody REPRESENTATION of Calvary that is more powerful than anything known to mankind. The CC, in obedience, offers Holy Mass in most parishes every day ie the daily or supernatural bread that we refer to in the Lord’s Prayer. Without altars & liturgical sacrificial worship, Protestantism, generally doesn’t have “church”, more like synagogue with prayer & teaching.
This guy early on in his speech said against Sola Scriptura that we also have oral tradition. Wasn’t that the issue Jesus had with the Pharisees & the oral Torah especially around ritual washing before eating. 2. Riddle me this one if Mary is the Immaculate Virgin then where did his siblings come from ?
@@rewindseventyseven-en6iv Matt 1:25 he (Joseph) took his wife but did not have marital relations with her until she gave birth to a son. Therefore Joseph did have marital relations with her at least 4 times which is why Jesus had 4 half brothers. James, Jude, Joseph and Simon. 2 of which were definitely not Disciples. The early church was split at the beginning between Paul & James. James wanted Christianity to be an add on to Judaism (ie under the mosaic law) however Paul backed up by Peter led the way as Jesus came to fulfill the law by living a perfect life. See Acts 21:17-26
Matt 1:25 he (Joseph) took his wife but did not have marital relations with her until she gave birth to a son. Therefore Joseph did have marital relations with her at least 4 times which is why Jesus had 4 half brothers. James, Jude, Joseph and Simon. 2 of which were definitely not Disciples. The early church was split at the beginning between Paul & James. James wanted Christianity to be an add on to Judaism (ie under the mosaic law) however Paul backed up by Peter led the way as Jesus came to fulfill the law by living a perfect life.
Nowhere in Scripture does Jesus or anyone else direct any praise, glory, or adoration toward Mary. Elizabeth, Mary’s relative, praised Mary in Luke 1:42-44, but her praise is based on the blessing of giving birth to the Messiah. It was not based on any inherent glory in Mary. In fact, after this Mary spoke a song of praise to the Lord, extoling His mindfulness to those of humble state and His mercy and faithfulness (Luke 1:46-55).
@@atrifle8364 She is, was chosen and blessed mother and also needs a Saviour. Look in the Bible says to pray to Mary or to other dead Saints pray unto them.
@@noj72lao-fr1oh - Unfortunately your Bible is probably a little short, so the parts of the OT that flesh out the afterlife a little more are probably missing. The NT does mention a "cloud of witnesses" in Hebrews. Revelation discusses the saints in Heaven offering prayers to God. The saints and Mary are not dead. They have already achieved eternal life, which exists outside of time. Their ability to hear us asking for their prayers is a grace of God.
Protestantism is selective & inconsistent about bible texts & forgets that not everything is in the bible Jn 21:25. Sola Scriptura is not in the bible, neither is OSAS, nor the WORDS bible & Trinity. Where does the bible say not to baptise infants, that baptism is optional & where does it say baptism by immersion. Where in Jn 6 51-58 does it say that the Eucharist is symbolic. You hypocritically use a bible that was codified by the CC yet are anti Catholic.
@@noj72lao-fr1oh Yes they do. Luke 11:27 While he was saying this, a woman in the crowd raised her voice and said to him, “Blessed is the womb that bore you and the breasts that nursed you!” And what has already been pointed out. Luke 1:48 And Luke 1:28 This is three times against your nowhere.
God broke a few of his own commandments with mary, thou shalt not covert and adultery, but being a god of do as I say not as I do it probably absolves him from his own sin.
The Bible does not specifically tell us to pray to Mary, nor does it teach that she should be worshipped. Nonetheless, the honor given to Mary can deepen a Christian’s faith and bring them closer to God1. While Mary holds an esteemed position in Christianity, it’s essential to recognize that worship should be directed solely toward God. Mary’s role is one of honor and intercession, not as a divine being deserving of prayers. 🙏
We have problems because a language shift has occurred. Protestants do not have worship in the way it was meant in the Old Testament. Thus prayer and worship have become interchangeable. Noone worships Mary, which would involve giving her something back to her on an altar. Prayer is simply "to ask". Yes, people ask Mary to ask Jesus/God for them. That's the act of intercession.
Protestantism is selective & inconsistent about bible texts & forgets that not everything is in the bible Jn 21:25. Sola Scriptura is not in the bible, neither is OSAS, nor the WORDS bible & Trinity. Where does the bible say not to baptise infants, that baptism is optional & where does it say baptism by immersion. Where in Jn 6 51-58 does it say that the Eucharist is symbolic. You hypocritically use a bible that was codified by the CC yet are anti Catholic.
@@BD-fi2oq Why Roman Catholic church celebrates, parades and raise her statues on a Pedestal with heavenly images. That is what you call Pagan Idolatry Worship.
Saw your first video and if you did not see my comments on that one here it is since it is about the same subject. Who defined the doctrine of the Immaculate Conception? Was it a man or was it from the inspired word of God in the Bible? From the Catholic Encyclopedia definition, you read this. The preservation and exemption of the Blessed Virgin Mary from every stain of original sin from the first moment of her conception we declare, pronounce, and define that the most holy Blessed Virgin Mary at the first instance of her conception was preserved Immaculate from all stains of original sin. Now if I can prove to you what the Catholic Encyclopedia has defined Immaculate Conception to be is the same definition as what the Bible says about all of us that we are also preserved and exempt from every stain of original sin from the first moment of our conception. Will you concede that we also are Immaculate Conceived? If I quote these two passages one in Psalm 139:13-14 “For You formed my inward parts; You covered me in my mother’s womb. I will praise You, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made; Marvelous are Your works, And that my soul knows very well.” and this passage in Ezekiel 28:15 “You were perfect in your ways from the day you were created, Till iniquity was found in you.” Would you say when it says “You formed my inward parts, and fearfully and wonderfully made, and “You were perfect in your ways from the day you were created” does it talk about Mary? Yes, right? Well, not only her but all of us my friend. Now can I take the Catholic Encyclopedia definition and read it this way? The preservation and exemption of all babies from every stain of original sin from the first moment of our conception we declare, pronounce, and define that all at the first instance of our conception were preserved Immaculate from all stains of original sin. Can this also refer to all of us and those who are born today and will tomorrow? Most absolutely. Here are more Bible passages that will completely refute and debunk your notion that the RCC doctrine keeps saying that the Blessed Virgin Mary is the only one born sinless when the Bible says everyone is born sinless. Genesis 1:27 So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. Ecclesiastes 7:29 Truly, this only I have found: That God made man upright, But they have sought out many schemes.” Matthew 18:2-6 Then Jesus called a little child to Him, set him in the midst of them, and said, “Assuredly, I say to you, unless you are converted and become as little children, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven. Therefore whoever humbles himself as this little child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven. Whoever receives one little child like this in My name receives Me. If a child will go to heaven certainly a baby will also, therefore, were not born with a sinful nature. Mark 10:13-16 Then they brought little children to Him, that He might touch them; but the disciples rebuked those who brought them. But when Jesus saw it, He was greatly displeased and said to them, “Let the little children come to Me, and do not forbid them; for of such is the kingdom of God. Assuredly, I say to you, whoever does not receive the kingdom of God as a little child will by no means enter it.” And He took them up in His arms, laid His hands on them, and blessed them. Again if a child will go to heaven certainly a baby will also, therefore, were not born with a sinful nature. Romans 9:11 for the children not yet being born, nor having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works but of Him who calls. Now let's bring this further in the future. This dogma of the Immaculate Conception was defined by Pius IX on December 8, 1854. As you can see it was all made up from the go by a man many centuries after Jesus Christ was ascended into heaven and where did this Pius get that idea from? Did he get it from some Mary's apparition where she said she was Immaculate Conceived or by twisting some Scriptures to come up with that idea? Pius finally defined it on December 8, 1854, just before Mary said it herself at the grotto of Lourdes on 25 March 1858, when Saint Bernadette Soubirous asked the name of the mysterious Lady who appeared to her, she replied, “I am the Immaculate Conception.” That is odd Pius said it first before she said it. So he must have got that idea from twisting some Bible passages. Now let's add this up. That could only prove it was not Mary who appeared to Saint Bernadette or ever appeared to any of all her apparitions past and future but it was Satan himself the angel of light. He wants to confirm her apparitions so you Catholics stay firm in her that since you love her so much and you seem not able to live without her or take her out of your mind that you pray, bow down, and worship her on your knees it was his way to make you believe more about her and keep in you so deep in the dark because he did not want to lose you. Another reason it could not be Mary is because she knows we are all born without sin from what God says about us and why would she come and tell us a lie and go against the teaching of God's word that she is the only one sinless and nobody else. It would not make any sense and she would have sinned and now on her way to hell. Now let's refute some of the Bible passages you brought up to support your claim. Luke 1:26 Now in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent by God to a city of Galilee named Nazareth, to a virgin betrothed to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David. The virgin’s name was Mary. And having come in, the angel said to her, “Rejoice, highly favored one, the Lord is with you; blessed are you among women!” Luke 1:30 Then the angel said to her, “Do not be afraid, Mary, for you have found favor with God. I know why you would read it from Douay-Rheims because like you said it is a Catholic Bible that agrees with you that is why you picked it up but no other Bibles called her “Hail, full of grace, or thou hast found grace with God” but all said “highly favored.” Seems there is a preference to say that because it suits your Catholic doctrine if it did not it would destroy your doctrine so you have to stick to Douay-Rheims. But funny if something is said in the King James Bible that looks good for your doctrine why do you not stay with Douay-Rheims that you need to come in that Bible? Does your Catholic Bible not have it? Anyway, you are outnumbered on this one not too many would agree with you. Your Douay-Rheims Catholic Bible is the only one who says it among all other Bibles. Did you know in Acts 6:8 that Stephen was full of grace. "And Stephen, full of grace and fortitude, did great wonders and signs among the people." Does that mean that Stephen was born sinless and immaculate conceived like Mary? Just because Douay-Rheims was written in 1582 and the King James was written in 1611 does not prove it was translated better or more accurately where most people believe the King James and the New King James version because it is better and the most accurate translation from Hebrews and Greek into English by taken from the original manuscripts. Anyway, I will leave it at that too many things to say it will take too much of my time to say more. Just for me to prove the RCC doctrine of Immaculate Conception does not agree with what the Bible says is enough to show your doctrine is a lie. Now please stop lying you are in danger of going to hell with the rest of the Catholics. If you preach that lies and many lies of the RCC doctrine you will be responsible for sending many with you to hell. Read the Bible properly at its face value and in the context it was written. You have not studied the Bible enough my friend. Come to Christ not to Mary she is dead and her bones are still in the grave.
Sorry, but you’re wrong & it is what it is. Mary, like the saints, is very much alive in heaven where as Queen (type of Esther) she is the Woman of Rev 12. If she is buried, where are her relics, which, as was the practice in the early church, would have been made public. How do you explain many approved Marian apparitions over the centuries especially Lourdes, Fatima, La Salette, Guadalupe, Akita etc with Mary acting as your son’s messenger with urgent appeals for prayer & repentance as well as prophecies about the current state of the year. You can deny them as much as you want, but that doesn’t change the truth!
@@geoffjsProve it that I'm wrong. Come up with Bible scriptures to show me where I'm wrong. You have not given me any only your own belief and interpretation. You came up with a weak response that will not go well in court. I have given you enough proof with Bible after Bible scriptures with excellent explanations to support what the Bible says about Mary and all of us and you still don't get it and don't want to believe it. You are surely been brainwashed and indoctrinated so deeply that you are blind to the truth that even if Mary would come to you and appeared and said the same thing that I said you still would not believe her because it would destroy the concept of Mary being the only one who was born sinless and you cannot take that chance to believe it because you have invested your whole life to believe in this religion that it would completely break its foundation and destroy that religion that many would get out of it and lose support. You are like a person who has an old ripped sweater that does not keep you warm anymore and would not accept a new one as a gift. That is how silly Catholics have become just like what Jesus said in the Bible you cannot put new wine in an old wine skin bag it will tear. I have to say that Satan has deceived you so much that you cannot escape from his hold and has got you stuck in his evil claws. It is so sad that one who is trying to show the lies of the RCC doctrine to Catholics how dangerous it is for them if they stay in it will send them to hell and to get out before it is too late preferred to stay in it and be damned to hell. Well, my friend, it is your choice but it will be too late after you die there won't be any mercy given to you on your judgment day, and by the way, there is no purgatory that is another lie from the RCC doctrine. Come out from this harlot religion of idol worshippers. All those apparitions would be the same as my explanation to the one at the grotto of Lourdes could only have been done by an unholy spirit like a demon or Satan himself. As you know Satan is an angel of light he can do miracles and could have done it. If he was able to appear to Eve as a serpent he certainly can come appearing as a woman dressed up as Mary. Here let me try to wake you up about the woman in Revelation 12 as being Mary to prove you she is not it is an event that will happen in the future and you are taking it out of context. Let me point out some passages in those verses and let you see it is not about Mary at all. You are trying so hard to use Revelation 12 to prove it is her but let's take a look at it more closely and see if Mary fits the narrative. Revelation 12:1 "And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered." In this verse there are different theological interpretations of the woman mentioned in Revelation 12:1 some say she represents God's people the church (12 Apostles) while others say she represents the nation of Israel ( twelve Tribes of Israel). So the woman clothed with the sun and on her head a crown of 12 stars is a reference to the nation of Israel and the 12 tribes. Why we know that because it is cited in Genesis 37:9 which is also a reference to Israel. Answer me this question. Why then since in Revelation 12:17 the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to make war with the rest of her offspring, If you say this is Mary are you prepared to say that the Virgin Mary Had other children? I don't think so. So from Revelation 12, there is certainly no evidence of Mary's Cosmic queenship. Also if the woman mentioned in this chapter is Mary you would have a hard time explaining Revelation 12:6 because Mary didn't flee to the wilderness and wasn't fed there for one 1,260 days or 1,260 prophetic years according to Ezekiel 4:6. Also, you would have a hard time explaining Revelation 12:13-17 if this woman was Mary there was no mention of Mary being persecuted by the dragon or Satan and none of those events happened to her at all. Revelation 12:13-17 "Now when the dragon saw that he had been cast to the earth, he persecuted the woman who gave birth to the male Child. But the woman was given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness to her place, where she is nourished for a time and times and half a time, from the presence of the serpent. So the serpent spewed water out of his mouth like a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away by the flood. But the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed up the flood which the dragon had spewed out of his mouth. And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to make war with the rest of her offspring, who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. Has any of those events ever happened to Mary? As you can see it is not Mary they are talking about it is about newborn saints who persevere and endure persecution under the antichrist rule. As you can see in Revelation 12 it has nothing to do with Mary it is a prophetic event that will happen during the tribulation period of the antichrist and false prophet who wants to kill as many as possible new Christians babe who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. These are the ones who do not want to take the number of the beast 666. This unholy trinity which is the antichrist, false prophet, and Satan is so angry that he does not have much time left which is why he went to make war after them (offspring). Come to Christ not to Mary she is dead in her grave and cannot hear you, talk to you, or answer you, and certainly not the queen of heaven which Revelation 12 proved it. God bless you
@@jpd4676Your problem is that you rely solely on the bible when not everything is in the bible Jn 21:25 ie where is the Trinity described, where does it say that we must go to church, where does it say baptism by immersion or not to baptise infants etc? Lk 1:28 is the basis of the belief in the Immaculate Conception which the early fathers wrote about & that Luther & the reformers believed in. To carry Jesus, Mary had to be pure so God saved her from the stain of original sin at the moment of her conception as with God, all things are possible. Like the Ark of the OT, Mary is the Ark of the New Testament, remaining ever virgin before being assumed into heaven where she is the Queen Mother, type of Esther. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qONxua4Fp44.htmlsi=MvWpQjKbP6E2ka4j
Praying to the dead is strictly forbidden in the Bible. Deuteronomy 18:11 tells us that anyone who “consults with the dead” is “detestable to the Lord.” The story of Saul consulting a medium to bring up the spirit of the dead Samuel resulted in his death “because he was unfaithful to the LORD; he did not keep the word of the LORD and even consulted a medium for guidance” (1 Samuel 28:1-25; 1 Chronicles 10:13-14). Clearly, God has declared that such things are not to be done.
Necromancy is not asking the saints in Heaven to pray for you. Necromancy is conjuring the dead, via the use of a medium, as in Samuel for some advantage. If you read the passage you're quoting, Saul conjures up Samuel for the purposes of advance information. Samuel gives it to him, much to his chagrin. If you ask to friends to pray for you, then the act of asking the saints to pray is the same. EXCEPT that the saints we know God will listen to, if they choose to pray. (And they can choose.) Your friend at fellowship might be dead to God, along with his prayers.
The Bible describes Jesus as the mediator between God and humanity. In 1 Timothy 2:5, it says, “For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus”
@@noj72lao-fr1oh - And? If you ask friends to pray for you, then you are asking them to mediate for you, by the way we mean it in modern English. In context Paul is emphasizing the true nature of Christianity. It does not say anything negative about asking the living (the saints) and the hopefully not dead (our friends and family) to help with our prayers.
Quote; We dont have to have scripture, thats the thing. We have the word of god as carried by the infallible authority of the church(catholic), sacred tradition. At least you are honest enough to admit catholics dont need the scriptures. Neither do they need them or want them, but they have the utmost contempt for the bible. Just remember the catholic battle cry......"The bible doesnt have everything needed for salvation". It is lacking.
So what was your family's excuse and yours for not reading Scripture The Church forcefully and specifically exhorts all the Christian faithful . . . to learn the surpassing knowledge of Jesus Christ, by frequent reading of the divine Scriptures. Ignorance of the Scriptures is ignorance of Christ. Catechism Of the Catholic Church😆 Pope St. Gregory I (died 604 AD) “The Emperor of heaven, the Lord of men and of angels, has sent you His epistles for your life’s advantage-and yet you neglect to read them eagerly. Study them, I beg you, and meditate daily on the words of your Creator. Learn the heart of God in the words of God, that you may sigh more eagerly for things eternal, that your soul may be kindled with greater longings for heavenly joys.” Pope Clement XI (1700 - 1720) To forbid Christians to read Sacred Scripture, especially the Gospels, is to forbid the use of light to the sons of light, and to cause them to suffer a kind of excommunication. Pope Pius VI (April 1st 1778 AD) “the faithful should be excited to the reading of the Holy Scriptures: for these are the most abundant sources which ought to be left open to every one, to draw from them purity of morals and of doctrine” Pope Pius VII (1800 - 1823) "encourage their people to read the Holy Scriptures ; for nothing can be more useful, more consoling, and more animating, because they serve to confirm the faith, to support the hope, and to influence the charity of the true Christian." Pope Leo XIII (1893) “The solicitude of the apostolic office naturally urges and even compels us…to desire that this grand source of Catholic revelation (the Bible) should be made safely and abundantly accessible to the flock of Jesus Christ” Pope Pius X (1903 - 1914) “Nothing would please us more than to see our beloved children form the habit of reading the Gospels - not merely from time to time, but every day.” Pope Benedict XV (1914 - 1922) “Our one desire for all the Church’s children is that, being saturated with the Bible, they may arrive at the all-surpassing knowledge of Jesus Christ” Pope Pius XII (1943) “... This author of salvation, Christ, will men more fully know, more ardently love and more faithfully imitate in proportion as they are more assiduously urged to know and meditate the Sacred Letters, especially the New Testament ...” Pope John Paul II (1979) “catechesis must be impregnated and penetrated by the thought, the spirit and the outlook of the Bible and the Gospels through assiduous contact with the texts themselves” Pope Benedict XVI (2006) “I urge you to become familiar with the Bible, and to have it at hand so that it can be your compass pointing out the road to follow. By reading it, you will learn to know Christ.” Pope Francis (2015) “The Bible is not meant to be placed on a shelf, but to be in your hands, to read often - every day, both on your own and together with others” Gee, good thing you don’t like condescending emails, right? Anyway, I am not rebuking God’s Word, I am rebuking man’s word and, in particular, I am rebuking your word. Your fallible, man-made, non-authoritative, biased and bigoted word.
@@bibleman8010 During catholic mass shows, the catholic "priest" holds up the bible and waves it around, just for show, even though he and the audience has nothing but contempt for it. You are a case in point. Thank you.
@@bibleman8010 Hello again friend. Ever heard of double talk? All these glorious men in pope costumes praising reading the bible. Ah, how nice. How many people were burned at the stake by the CC for either owning bibles or trying to get bibles into the hands of the people. The CC outlawed the owning and or reading the scriptures on pain of death. The CC, in 1964, noticedthat the bible was still officially on the list of banned books and officially unbanned it. Better late than never.
@@peterzinya1- Lol! I have never seen a priest wave the Bible around. Why would Catholics sit through 2 readings, psalms, and a Gospel reading if we hated the Bible? Most devout Catholics hear more Scripture in a year than many Protestants by simply showing up to Mass
Our Lady is the Mother of a Divine Person, Jesus. You do not yet have a sufficient understanding of what Saint Bernard and the other Marian saints teach regarding her. The Holy Spirit, the Father and the Son do nothing except in union with Mary. At least not in this universe and yes. Narnia is still in our universe. Not just some special graces but all, each and every grace must pass through her Immaculate hands. Can you see why sinful man might share in Satan's prideful rebellion against so exalted and honorable a role?
@@MrGogeta3407 - Not necessarily. Having given birth 3 times I can tell you there's pain and well, pain. Mary is primarily thought to have suffered at the Cross with her Son. Mary in Revelation is a composite, including spiritually, of a real woman, if we have all ID this woman correctly. The agony of giving birth could easily be extended to the Cross, given that Revelation is a mystical and not a biographical work. I am pretty sure the earthly Mary didn't walk around with a crown of 12 stars on her head. If we're going to go super word for word on that interpretation, we don't have anyone that matches it at all.
@atrifle8364 The woman sign in Revelation is referenced in the Old Testament and is Israel. Please read Isaiah 26 15-17. Isaiah 9 verse 6 shows that the child of Israel is Jesus Christ.
Unfortunately there’s no worse blind than he who doesn’t want to see. Maybe God in His wisdom due to pried or maybe our Lord has hardened their hearts and is keeping a vail over their eyes. It’s not to hard to find in the Old Testament that the queen was the kings mother not the wife. Look it up, the king bowed his mother and ordered a throne to be placed next to his at his right hand You may also find the king telling his mother that he will not deny anything she asks. Now, isn’t Jesus King ? That makes who Queen? I’m not going to tell you where to find it tho, do some work and maybe next time some of these people won’t sound so ignorant. The main problem is that many are not looking to learn instead they’re just they just want to sound right. Those who don’t know that they don’t know, but instead believe they know everything there’s to know, have no room for new information nor room to grow…for they know it all .
If someone insulted or disparaged or lied about your mother, wouldn't you also feel insulted ? If you disparage Mary, you insult Jesus, and God, the Father !!
Mary was, as we are now, a sinner who is now dead. she was not Deity. she will be resurrected when Jesus returns. anything other is adding to God's Word and warned against.
@@tony1685Mary is alive in heaven as Queen (type of Esther) & is the Woman of Rev 12, Gen 3:15 & Jn 19:26. If she is buried on earth, where are her relics?
@@MrGogeta3407Mt 1:25 she knew him not UNTIL does not imply that Mary had sex after the birth of Jesus just as I didn’t smoke until I died, can’t imply that I did smoke after I died! The reference to the brothers of Jesus are cousins for which Aramaic had no word. If Mary had other children, why did Jesus hand Mary to John at the foot of the cross, a role that culturally would have gone to a sibling. Mary is the pure Ark of the New Covenant. Read what the early fathers have to say about the perpetual virginity, a relatively easy dogma to understand & accept. As Catholics we accept & obey the infallible teaching of the Magisterium Mt 16 19 & Lk 10:16 as His One True Church Mt 16 18
@@geoffjs It literally says that Joseph took unto him (Mary) his wife and did not have sex with her until after she had her firstborn son. There's nothing to interpret here. It's not an implication. It's literally telling us when Joseph and Mary got together (after her firstborn was born). The reason why Jesus gave Mary to John is because Jesus meant what he said in Mathew 12:48-50.
Nobody asked Mary to ask Jesus to make wine. That is the definition of intercession. Mary did not forward a request to Jesus on behalf of someone else.
@@atrifle8364 Why would a guest ask Mary to ask Jesus to make wine Nobody knew he was the Son of God yet! Intercession means "please forward my prayer to your Son and put in a good word for me". Jesus did Mary a favor without revealing his supernatural capabilities.
Jesus Changes Water Into Wine 2 On the third day a wedding took place at Cana in Galilee. Jesus’ mother was there, 2 and Jesus and his disciples had also been invited to the wedding. 3 When the wine was gone, Jesus’ mother said to him, “They have no more wine.” 4 “Woman,[a] why do you involve me?” Jesus replied. “My hour has not yet come.” 5 His mother said to the servants, “Do whatever he tells you.” 6 Nearby stood six stone water jars, the kind used by the Jews for ceremonial washing, each holding from twenty to thirty gallons.[b] 7 Jesus said to the servants, “Fill the jars with water”; so they filled them to the brim. 8 Then he told them, “Now draw some out and take it to the master of the banquet.” They did so, 9 and the master of the banquet tasted the water that had been turned into wine. He did not realize where it had come from, though the servants who had drawn the water knew. Then he called the bridegroom aside 10 and said, “Everyone brings out the choice wine first and then the cheaper wine after the guests have had too much to drink; but you have saved the best till now.” 11 What Jesus did here in Cana of Galilee was the first of the signs through which he revealed his glory; and his disciples believed in him. But you don't disciple of Satan🤢🤢
@@dominicbriganti5710 - Mary would have known He was the Son of God. You don't live 30 years with your son without learning something about him. Don't take a pop culture Christmas songs about Mary too seriously. Mary, the wedding guest, might have been asked to pray for or even quietly asked to somehow assist with what would have been a huge embarrassment. She solved the problem her way.
@@atrifle8364 The bride or groom would have had to have asked Mary to ask Jesus to make wine. That is INTERCESSION. Mary asking on her own is not INTERCESSION.
All scripture is God breathed. Traditions are man made. Don't play Russian Roulette with your soul. Matthew 1:25 tells us all we know about the honesty of the Catholic Church.
Would you say the same of the reformers who upheld the perpetual virginity of Mary? Luther's Smalcard Articles affirmed Mary's perpetual virginity ('ever virgin'). So did Wycliffe, Zwingli, and Bullinger in their own right. Even Calvin was of the opinion that 'until' and 'firstborn son' in Matthew 1:25 did not necessarily contradict the doctrine. (Calvin, Commentary on Matthew 1:25). He concluded that we are simply not told what happened after Christ's birth. The doctrine is older than the Canon of the Bible, going by what St Jerome wrote in Against Helvidius. He alluded that Polycarp, Ignatius, Irenaeus, and Justin Martyr all wrote 'volumes' on the topic with 'replete wisdom'. They are the earliest fathers of the Church after the Apostles (even if the 'volumes' are lost to posterity). You need to re-evaluate where honesty and truth resides.
@@wenshan9101 "We have an obligation to honor Mary. But be careful to give her honor that is fitting. Unfortunately, I worry that we give her all too high an honor for she is accorded much more esteem than she should be given or than she accounted to herself. So from this comes two abuses. First Christ is diminished by those who place their hearts more upon Mary than upon Christ himself. In doing so Christ is forced into the background and completely forgotten. The other abuse is that the poor saints here on earth are forgotten. I would allow a high regard for Mary and her praise, just so long as you do not get carried away and consider making a law out of it so that she must be honored as a condition for your salvation. For the Scriptures have recorded nothing about her birth or life. So your hearts must not be placed upon her and she must not be exalted above her proper status. The monks invented all this abuse. They wanted to praise the woman. They have used Mary as an excuse to invent all kinds of lies by which she could be used to establish their twaddle. They have used Scriptures to drag Mary by the hair and force her to go where she never intended. For the Gospel that is read today reveals Christ's nativity, not Mary's. See how many lies have come out of this which we can in no way tolerate. I can surely allow her to be honored but not in a way that belies the Scriptures." Fr Martin Luther
You've done a nice job of praising Mary. She is worthy of the praise. Mary pointed those in need at the Cana wedding to Jesus. That was a prayer. Jesus answered it. Are you claiming that Mary can obtain from Jesus something He would not have done without her specifically influencing Him? Are there good things Jesus is withholding from a Christian until Mary's intercession is obtained? Mary took no credit herself. God said she was blessed. Blessed by Him (Luke 1:46-49). Her Magnificat is totally a praise of God her savior. What in the sacred traditions is taught about Mary that isn't in God's Word? I am saved by what Christ has done on my behalf. I don't need to ask Mary to intercede. I do hold her in the highest regard. You are free to ask Mary for whatever. I honor her best by doing what I feel certain pleases her, honoring her Son.
Read Luke 1 again. Mary said "all generations will call me blessed" What specifically do many Protestants withhold from Mary? Mary is our spiritual mother, but private devotions like the Rosary are entirely optional. I choose generally to pray the hinge offices (Litgury of the Hours). I will pray Rosaries in a group, but again it's not an obligation, as Mass is
@@ralf547- I highly recommend the Litgury of the Hours. Paul Rose has a channel called "Sing the Hours". It's Lauds and Vespers. Very beautiful and all about learning how to pray like a psalmist/saint.
@@atrifle8364 consequenses?.consequences?.. yes sinful flesh will be condemned.... the Bible tells is God The Son came down from heaven in the form of the sinful flesh(born of a woman) to condemn sin in the flesh-->Romans 8:3 KJV - For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
@@davidcrane6593- No, I mean what it must mean on a physical level for a woman to carry and raise God Incarnate. It was Mary's body that Jesus initially took His flesh from. There's a tendency to make Mary Protestant soccer mom by ignoring how Jesus incarnates. Thus Jesus not receiving His full Divinity until well after birth in the Protestant mental landscape, if He ever receives it at all
Logic doesn't work. We follow the word of God which says when they refused to acknowledge God in their mind he gave them over a reprobate mind of doing unrighteous things. Romans 1:28, 2 thessalonians 2:9-12. So run from lie of the devil
What do you mean logic doesn’t work, from my experience with them are you talking about Protestants? God gave us a brain, intelligence, the ability to reason so we need to use it, esp true about salvation history. Pope John Paul II put it very well when he compared our lungs to Faith & reason and to the Catholic Church & Orthodox. We can survive with one dimension, but we are richer & wiser with both. Faith without reason is incomplete & reason without faith is secularism. 1 Peter 3:15 Always be ready to give an explanation to anyone who asks you for a reason for your hope. Catholicism is richer for its philosophical BOTH/AND view eg Jesus & Mary, Body & Blood in the Eucharist etc
I'm sorry, but just because Mary requested that Jesus turned water into wine because she knew that he had the ability to by the grace of God that verse alone is not authoritative. I'm sorry, but that's a hell of a jump to say that Mary should be our intercessor in our behalf.
@@atrifle8364 You're sorely confused. You can't acuse Protestants on being overly focused on (sola scritura) and then turn around and use the same argument to argue for Marian intercession. That's a fallacy my friend. It would make more sense to say the Lords Prayer which Jesus himself instituted than ANY type of intercession. You need to bring a better argument to the table
@@cc-zn2tyFor most Protestants, no explanation is possible, for most Catholics, no explanation is necessary. The difference is that one finds understanding by believing but not vice versa.
Catholics pray both the Lords Prayer and prayer for intercessions everyday, multiple times. My thought is you are just against the prayer of intercession to Mary because you are not Catholic and you didn't believe that the Catholic Church is the Church founded by Jesus Christ. When you believe that the Catholic Church is historically the Church founded by Christ, then you may be more open to searching for the reason why prayer for the intercession of the saints is valid and approved by God.
It is amazing to see how RCs interpret the bible through the lens of established RC theology, instead of interpreting theological statements through the bible. Ordained priesthoods, praying to Mary and other people who have died, the infallible papacy....I still haven't had a reply to my challenge arising from the encyclical Munificentissimus Deus of Pope Pius XII, issued November 1, 1950; It declares that anyone who disagreed with the bodily assumption of Mary has fallen completely away from the divine faith and subject to the wrath of God. This was declared Ex Cathedra and so is 'infallible'. So all Protestants and any Catholics who 'deny or call into doubt' this truth (established in 1950!) are damned. Either the bible is true "All who call on the name of the Lord' are saved, or the Pope is true - you can't have both. Be honest tell us what you think without resorting to verbal acrobatics.
Jesus est His One True Church Mt 16 18-19 which became known by Ignatius as Catholic or Universal in 107, codified your bible in 382, the pillar & foundation of Truth 1 Tim 3:15 has existed, in spite of sinful men for 2000 yrs, evidence of its divine origin. Sacred Tradition which has existed from the time of Christ combined with Sacred Scripture which was only mass printed in the 16th century & even then most people were illiterate until recent centuries, so apart from being unbiblical, Scriptura was also, unworkable. The deposit of Faith combines ST & SS under the unifying authoritative interpretation of the Magisterium which is guided by the Holy Spirit protecting the pope from issuing fallible statements on faith & morals. The fact that the CC has not issued one erroneous official teaching in 2000 yrs is proof of Mt 16 19 Whether you like it or not, the Pope is Jesus’ earthly representative refer Isa 22:22 with the authority & power to bind & loose. Also Lk 10:16, the CC has authoritative power to issue infallible statements including the Assumption. Recognise that Mary, as the biblical Woman is part of salvation history Gen 3:5, Lk 2:4, Jn 26:27 & Rev 12 Without hierarchy & unifying authority, Protestantism falsely relies on unbiblical sola Scriptura & personal interpretation resulting in confusion, division & scandal of 000’s of sects which is not of God who willed unity Jn 17 11-23.With its many “truths”, the cause of the scourge of relativism, Protestants are obviously not guided by the Holy Spirit as otherwise, there would be one Lutheran Church.
@@geoffjs Assumption followed by assumption. So you are saying that when I am changed into the likeness of Christ through repentance and faith, when I'm born again, when the gifts and graces of the Holy Spirit work through me, when prophecies come true as well as all my experience of the Jesus who gave His life for me and loves me - all this is bogus! In fact you still haven't answered my question, are Protestants saved? According to the encyclical I quoted none are, despite the fact that he who calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved, (try John 3:16). You need to come out and openly say that Protestants are all going to hell or the Pope is utterly wrong. I know he's wrong as I have experienced salvation and all that goes with it. I have read the history of the Popes and the accounts of the evil they have willed and perpetrated is horrifying. Many did not know God, were in Satan's kingdom, and doubtless many are now in hell. The bible (Apostolic authority) makes it clear we should have nothing to do with them - and yet you call them Jesus' earthly representatives. That is blasphemy! You need to discover and experience the Jesus of the bible.
@@jamesmg4694To put it bluntly, the CC is His One True Church with authority Mt 16 19 including over the bible as Jesus gave us a church, not a bible. So yes, the Pope, good or bad has authority to bind or loose & as a Catholic, I’m bound to obey His official infallible teaching Jn 10:16 as he is Christ’s prime minister Isa 22:22 Sola Scriptura is unbiblical & false. The bible is one leg & subject to authoritative interpretation, which is why Protestantism is the work of Satan with confusion, division & 000’s of sects which no Protestant has ever justified, Jesus willed unity Jn 17 11-23. Those who hear you hear me, so rejecting CC teaching is effectively rejecting Jesus so salvation is not possible
@@geoffjs So you are saying, without saying explicitly, that Protestants do not know Christ, are unsaved and in Satan's kingdom! So you are saying that all my experience, and that of untold millions of meeting Jesus as Saviour and Lord is deception, that our love for God, our Love for His Son and the experience of sanctifying grace is evil - because that is the clear implication of what the Pope said ex cathedra. So you are saying that Christians that join the RC weren't Christians before - because Pope Pius X11 declares it. You really need to think through the implications of what you state, because if you believe we are Christians then you are living, and declaring, a contradiction.
@@geoffjs Well that is appalling, contrary to the words of Jesus and experience. The Apostle Paul declares "that if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved." Now the Pope has overridden him. That means you have effectively rejected the bible and thus genuine apostolic authority. See what RCism has done to you.
Imagine that another spiritually blind protestant sinner who knows the reading habits of 1B Catholics and unjustly condemns us to hell. There is something terribly wrong with protestantism.
Protestants don't believe in Solo Scriptura, they believe in Dominus Scriptura.. the notion that extra-biblical insights, ideas and doctrines cannot contradict the already established Word of God. They all must match. With the Catholic belief of Mary.. It simply does not.
Almost every Protestant edits Scripture to match their preconceived ideas. Give me an area where they disagree with Church teaching. I will show you where they have taken passages out of context, ignored other parts of Scripture, and/or added words or concepts in what they are reading. Only the Catholic Church has a comprehensive explanation of Scripture, including on Mary. It is both a joke and not that the vast majority of Catholic apologetics is simply encouraging proper reading comprehension in our Protestant brethren.
So who has the authority to say that a particular "insight, idea or doctrine" contradicts the " already established Word of God" (and by the way, who was the one who established that the " already established Word of God" 'is the Word of God?)
@rdrdmaster5378 Those that study and show themselves approved can determine this (And naturally those lead by the Holy Spirit). If it were any other way, it would not have been said.
The Catechism is endlessly cross referenced with Scripture. Even most Papal letters involve invoking Scripture. Like it or not, Catholic doctrine is all bound up with Scripture.
@@bibleman8010 no, speaking of the Christian Bible, not the catholic 'bible', which is missing verses and has added apocrypha which contradicts God's Word.
@@atrifle8364 nonsense, Bible proves catholicism isn't Christianity -- see 1 Tim 3:15 and/or John 14:15 if you like, i can walk you through them once again.
@@tony1685The Church as pillar & foundation of Truth 1 Tim 3:15 is precisely the Catholic Church! Which verses are missing & why did Luther remove 7 books without authority Deut 4:2 & added the word ALONE to Rom 3:28. The Septuagint that Jesus & the apostles used & the bible that the CC codified in 382 included the apocrypha!
Mary the Mother of God, Yes but she is dead. There is no scripture that says 1.She ascended into Heaven 2. She has been given Godly powers to hear and answer prayers. So give me ONE verse that supports the Catholic tradition.
The bible isn’t the final say on truth, the Church is the pillar & foundation of Truth 1 Tim 3:15 Mary is very much alive in heaven where as Queen Mother (type of Esther), she intercedes for us & is the Woman of Rev 12. If she is not in heaven, where are her relics? If Elijah & Elisha were taken up to heaven, why not the mother of Jesus. No biblical text, however, not everything is in the bible Jn 21:25. God has a sense of humour & is playing games with Protestants’ sola Scriptura. He has left us clues including Mary as Queen of Heaven, (type of Esther), the Woman of Rev 12 & numerous Marian approved apparitions over the centuries Where are the words Trinity, Bible, Protestant in the bible? Too much of a biblical focus, based on unbiblical sola Scriptura leads to blindness as His One True Church is the pillar & foundation of Truth, not the bible. Jesus gave us a Church, which codified the Bible in 382. What did Christians do for 1500 yrs before the bible was mass printed & even then, most people were illiterate until recent centuries making sola Scriptura unworkable for 90% of Christian history!
Such a pity grown church goers are still more concerned with the vessel not what's in the vessel. God looks at your heart not how well you shaved or clothed yourself. To put emphasis on Mary you blindly take away the glory of Christ. Mary is human! Jesus was not only human!
You miss the bigger Catholic philosophical BOTH/AND view rather than the restrictive EITHER/OR Protestant view! Without Mary, the vessel, no Jesus. Obviously, she is not as important as Jesus, but neither should she be minimised or downplayed like Protestants do! Do you think that Jesus would approve of your attitude towards His Mother. We all have two physical parents, so it makes sense to also have a spiritual mother who leads us to her son.
@@geoffjs If Mary was not obedient to God, God would have looked for another vessel, Hazel, Caroline etc. God prepared the way for Jesus through Elizabeth (John) do Christians call on John to lead the way to Christ? Let me ask it in another way since the catholics edited most of the Bible. Which verse gives you the authority to pray to Mary? Without Mary no Jesus? Are you Serious. If you think as such I actually do not see a point in this conversation. That is another level of Idolatry. Beyond my level of understanding.
@@tknciliba4743 by Martin Luther... It is a sweet and pious belief that the infusion of Marys soul was effected without original sin; So that in the very infusion of her soul she was also purified from original sin and adorned with Gods Gifts “ Martin Luther Receiving A PURE SOUL buy God; Thus from the first moment she began to live she was free from all sin. MARTIN LUTHER. Sermon 1527😁😁 The Blessed Virgin Mary... "The great thing is none other than that she became the Mother of God; in which process so many and such great gifts were bestowed upon her that no one is able to comprehend them. Thereupon follows all honor, all blessedness, and the fact that in the whole race of men only one person is above all the rest, one to whom no one else is equal. For that reason her dignity is crowded into a single phrase when we call her the Mother of God; no one can say greater things of her or to her, even if he had as many tongues as leaves and blades of grass, as the stars in heaven and sands on the seashore. It must also be meditated in the heart what it means to be the Mother of God." - Die Erklarung des Magnificat - 1521. The first Protestant loved and honored the Blessed Virgin Mary, the Mother of GOD. Why haven't all of the rest of Protestantism followed his example in honoring her? Martin Luther wrote the veneration of Mary is inscribed in the very depths of the human heart September 1522.The veneration of Mary is inscribed in the very depths of the human heart." [Martin Luther, Weimar edition of Martin Luther's Works (Translation by William J. Cole) 10, III, p.313.] "Is Christ only to be adored? Or is the holy Mother of God rather not to be honoured? This is the woman who crushed the Serpent's head. Hear us. For your Son denies you nothing." [Martin Luther One of the oldest catacombs contains a drawing of the Madonna and child dating back to the second century And the oldest know request to Mary. The Sub Tunm Paresidum dates back to at least 300 AD, It reads We fly to your patronage oh Holy Theotokosz despise not our petition in our necessities but deliver us always from all dangers o ever glorious and blessed Virgin 300 AD "Mother of God, listen to my petitions; do not disregard us in adversity, but rescue us from danger." Rylands Papyrus 3 A.D. 350 Sola Scriptura Vreses Mary Isaha 7:14 Therfore the Lord Himself will give you a sign. The Virgin will be with child and give birth to a son. We can see its exactly the same sifn as in Revalation 12, confirming that the woman in both occurrences is Mary Rev 12: 1-5: A great and wonderous sign appeared in heaven; A women clothed with the Sun with the Moon under her feet and a crown of twelve Stars on her head.. Holy Mother of God Pray For Us She was pregnate and creid out in pain as she was about to give birth. Then another sign appeared in Heaven ; An enormace Red Dragon revalation 12. The Dragon stood in front of the woman who was about to give birth so that he might devour her child the moment it was born Rev 12
@@bibleman8010 So you think it is Mary's blood that sanctifies mankind from sin? Yoh, eish. If so I as an African I will continue to slaughter goats and sheep for the cleansing of my home. But because the Holy Spirit filled Adam with Breadth and ultimately His blood at the beginning of creation. I can rest assured in His Word as Jesus is the 2nd Adam, His blood contains the blood of all mankind. Even the blood of all those who have not been born, is in the blood of the Holy Spirit that Jesus spilt on the cross for mankind.
Holy Mary, Mother of God, kindly intercede and stop this zealot from slurring, swallowing, and mangling his words, which the Holy Spirit has informed me (via interior locution 5 mins ago) irritates not only you, Blessed Mother, but Christ and the Heavenly Father also. As I write this I have been told that even Satan is praying the rosary for you to stop his irritating voice!
Then God did not Incarnate apparently. Mother of God is about accepting the divinity of Christ from the moment of his conception. The rejection of the title is an old discussion from people who have not accepted the divinity of Christ. All Marion theology is about Christology.
Hugh criticizes others for oversimplified arguments against things like evolution, then proceeds to immediately reject and make an oversimplified argument against "solo scriptura." SIGH Christian apologetics is little more than a ridiculous dumpster fire these days. ---------------------- Hugh pretends that "solo scriptura" means that only those things taught in the Bible can be required for Christian doctrine. Conversely, some take this to mean that anything NOT taught in the Bible should NOT be required of Christians. He then mocks this as internally contradictory (since the Bible nowhere makes such a claim), and also makes a rather confused genetic appeal about the origin of the Bible. Specifically, he asserts that one cannot be certain that what the Bible contains is true or complete apart from having certainty about the Bible's content, which he says is a product of the Roman Catholic Church. The truth, however, is that no serious Christian theologian/philosopher/scholar truly holds to Hugh's strawman position. He might find amateurs who sloppily express as much, and Hugh may once have believed thus, but it is not the general position. By sola scriptura (or "Scripture Alone") what the thoughtful Christian means is that Scripture -- especially the gospels and NT writings -- is the best and most reliable record we have of what Jesus said and did, and what the apostles and some early Christians wrote, said, and did. Indeed, one might go so far as to say that it is the only accurate record we have from the apostolic period. Some will add claims about Scripture being the sole infallible source of such things, but this is not helpful or necessary. Now, it is quite difficult to discern what in that position is false or worthy of Hugh's mockery. However, his mockery is understandable, for he is a member of a church that teaches things that are not found in Scripture -- at least not explicitly -- and that claims that belief in such things is normative/necessary for salvation. If you are going to be a part of church that proclaims things not clearly found in the words and teachings of Christ and the apostles, nor found in the witness of the early Church, and if you are going to claim not only that others are wrong on these but will be condemned for their beliefs, and ESPECIALLY if you are going to make claims about knowing yourself to be correct, then one would think you'd be able to do better than just mocking others and toppling down strawmen.
He's discussed Sola Scriptura in other videos. Taken objectively as possible, the attempt to replicate the practice and teaching of the Christian faith from the documents of the NT, even with the OT as reference, is an exercise in futility. The NT is exactly: 4 biographies of Jesus, a record of the very earliest Church that abruptly ends almost randomly, and open public correction letters from some of the apostles, but mostly Paul. Edit: And a book of Revelation written down by John. All the descriptions of the practice are indirect at best. We have some reasonably clear directions on morals on some topics but not others. But people have spent lifetimes looking for what so emphatically is not there to be found. 🤷♀️ What is documented there is the concept of Church, whom Jesus founded on a man renamed "Rock". Perhaps inside of combing an empty tomb looking clues (reading the NT without help), maybe it might have been more helpful to find the fellow who claimed to have replaced Jesus's Rock.
@@atrifle8364 writes "He's discussed Sola Scriptura...." Yes, he "discusses" a lot of things. My point is that he starts off the video by criticizing others for making really awful arguments that are little more than amateurish straw men, then in the same breath proceeds to do the very thing that he just condemned others for doing.
@@philoalethia- Does he need to explain every concept in every before he gets to address a real problem in evangelical circles? Any thoughts about the attempt to reconstruct the faith using one short history, 4 biographies, 1 public revelation, and some open letters?
Of course they're right. They believe their own lies. They have repeated it often enough that they now believe the lie. By the grace of God. That is totally speculative. Of course you don't believe in sola scriptura. It doesn't confirm your lies. Lies of the devil.😅
@@rbnmnt3341 - It's almost 100% guaranteed you're following some self-edited version of what you wanted to hear in Scripture. The ability of Protestants to delete and insert words at random into Scripture is pretty epic. Ironically, there's no "this infallible sacred writing" declaration anywhere in the Bible. That itself is a man-made proposition, unless there is an authority to back it up. It's not a man made proposition, but only because the Church Church declares that Scripture is the infallible Word of God.
@@atrifle8364 we insert words? Your church inserts doctrines and dogmas. How's that,? For your information the church, your church has NOTHING to do with scriptures infallibility. The authors of scripture were moved by the Holy Spirit as they wrote. It was God breathed and it became infallible at that moment. God doesn't need your church to confirm that HIS word is infallible. You Catholics could be good comedians.
@@rbnmnt3341Prove that sola Scriptura is biblical, which it is not! The bible is inerrant, it can’t be infallible as that word applies to an agent making a fallible or infallible decision. Can’t get the basics correct, like optional baptism Jn 3:5 1 Peter 3:21, symbolic Eucharist Jn 6:51, both of which Jesus commands as necessary for salvation, wine v grape juice, rejection of hierarchy & authority, personal interpretation etc, resulting in confusion, division & scandal of 000’s of sects which is not of Jesus who willed unity Jn 17 11-23. How can Protestants naively claim that the Holy Spirit is guiding them when they end up where they are, the Holy Spirit isn’t in error, instead, Protestantism is heretical
Mary was blessed " among women." Notice that she was blessed among women plural. Mary Magdalene was given a larger role in the bible. You choose to ignore the fact that Jesus never called Mary anything but woman. When Jesus was notified that his mother and brothers were outside seeking Him. He said these that were listening to him were his mother and his brothers. Lest you forget Mary was not designated " Queen of Heaven" by the catholic church until 1954. Pius XII did it, he helped the Nazis escape Europe and go to Argentina post WW 11. What a guy !
Luke 1:48 - "All generations will call me blessed". Not a bunch of women, but "me". That Mary Magdalene was given a larger role in the Bible means almost nothing. Peter was given a huge role. Does it matter and how much? Most Protestants basically say "Peter who?" Jesus' calling almost all the women he meets "woman" I suspect has to do with Him being the New Adam, and nothing more than that. The passage you talk about absolutely suggests that Jesus is the New Adam who lacks normal sibling and parent relationships. Lastly, the Catholic Church merely dogmatizes existing teaching. "Queen of Heaven" is there in Revelation. But anti-marion sentiments, being what they are and were appeared to have reached a new recent peak. Thus the formal announcement. I have no idea what WWII has to do with any of these conversation, other than I know that I'm tired of it as a talking point.
The Queen of Heaven is found in scripture in Jeremiah 44:16-26. She was a Babylonian pagan goddess condemned by God. Revelation chapter 17 is indeed about the catholic church.
What ignorance & bias! The dogma of the Assumption was proclaimed in 1950, not 1954, formally proclaiming what has always been believed, in all times, about Mary. Not all doctrine has been dogmatised & is usually only done so when deemed necessary, perhaps for example because of doubt. If Elijah & Elisha were taken up to heaven, all the more would Jesus do this for His mother. Mary, who was saved at the moment of her conception had to be immaculate as the Theotokos. In addition, she lived a sinless life as the first Christian & our role model. Mary is the Queen Mother (type of Esther) & the woman of Rev 12. If you don’t believe this, where are her relics?
It was not the Church that held Mary is the highest esteem and reverence, it was God Himself. “If y’all have any problems with Mary , you better damn well get over them because she’s the Mother of God !” Mary does not take away from the redemptive work of Christ nor does she add to it. If you want proof that Christ's redemptive work is perfect look to exhibit A- The blessed virgin Mary. Nowhere in the Bible does it say not to honor Mary. In fact the Bible says the opposite. The Bible says we should honor those who God honors bless those who God blesses. And Luke 1:48 says that all generations will call her blessed. So we are just following the Bible in blessing and honoring Mary.🤦♀️
2:49 the Bible alone is the only INFALLIBLE source of authority. Protestants still believe their church has authority over them. You started off by remind us to make sure we know what we're arguing against, and then misrepresented sola scriptura 3:32 yeah, it took until 382 to get a completely consistent canon, but that doesn't mean we didn't know any New Testament scripture before then. 2 Peter is already referring to Paul's writings as scripture and that's around 70 AD, the early church largely agreed on a lot of things being scripture very early on. It just took until 382 to get the few fuzzy lines sorted out. 4:39 we don't believe we need scripture for every little thing. Authorities like the church or our parents if we're young are real authorities. But we do believe that matters of faith should have their grounding in scripture. That doesn't mean it has to be mentioned explicitly, but the basis should be able to be derived from there. That's what Paul was talking about when telling people how to identify false teachings: compare it to what you've already been given. Not that the teaching they'd been given would cover everything, but that the basis for understanding should be there. 5:46 8:02 hey now, the first miracle Jesus ever performed was Creation, Mary wasn't around yet. Just poking a little fun : ) Agree with your second point, it's ridiculous when some Protestants say Jesus turned water into grape juice so that it doesn't contradict their belief that alcohol shouldn't be had 11:51 why is it some big problem if Mary has other kids? You make it sound like Joseph and Mary engaging in the exact purpose for which marriage was created would be some kind of unholy insult to Jesus. Having additional kids is not "moving it along" after Jesus, it's the miracle of life. I wouldn't be relating Mary's womb to the temple to support the idea that no one else could enter, the temple could be entered once per year. You say "this was a very very sacred thing" as if that would prevent future sacred things like the miracle of life from happening. Protestants believe Jesus's birth was very very sacred too, we just don't think holy marital behaviors would bring any shame upon that. 13:04 your argument is that because soldiers gambling was fulfillment of prophecy, that means that Jesus had to have a grand celestial meaning for telling John to take care of Mary? I don't think I'm straw-manning that argument, I'm not following at all. Jesus's words were "vitally important, necessary statements" as you put it. But that doesn't mean we have to understand them to mean Mary is all of our mothers. Taking him to mean that he trusted John more than his own brothers (or half-brothers if you're Roman Catholic) is a hugely significant statement without having to turn it into a statement about Mary and the rest of creation. 16:18 Revelation 12 doesn't say it's talking about Israel, therefore it must be talking about Mary, who it also doesn't say it's talking about? This goes both ways, to interpret something as symbolic as Revelation you need to back up your interpretation, no matter what you think. There's some good reasons to think it's Mary, and there's some good reasons to think it's Israel. But don't argue that it doesn't explicitly mention Israel when it doesn't mention Mary either. It can also represent both those things at once. If it's only Mary and not Israel, why use all the Israel imagery? Did God just include the detail about the stars for no reason, he just picked 12 because it would look good on Mary's head? 19:50 if we don't take the Roman Catholic interpretation of Revelation 12, it suddenly becomes an unsolvable puzzle? It HAS to be Mary alone, nothing else makes logical sense? Hugh, that's a pretty bold claim for something as complicated as Revelation. Do the Protestant scholars who study this stuff just throw out rational thinking when they read this because they're all so afraid it might make them Roman Catholic? 20:46 what a ridiculous statement. We don't ignore things in scripture when we don't have an immediately apparent meaning for them. That's most of scripture. Churches are allowed to interpret things, we just believe they can make mistakes from time to time. 27:11 we've heard about some people seeing Mary as an apparition, therefore everything the Roman Catholic church teaches about her is right? What if Mary appeared to an evangelical church, would that mean God is telling them they're right? 28:41 When did Jesus give the keys to just Peter and not the other apostles?
@@mikekukovec4386 - I saw your work and scrolled by. Protestant talking points get repetitive. Your comments are more intelligent and charitable than most, but there's so much there that responding would take ages. Perhaps the best answer is why don't you see if you can argue the Catholic side of the case? All of your objections have answers. Just don't slip into the idea that Catholics are unable to reason their way out of a paper bag. Really steel man the attempt and see what you can figure out.
@@atrifle8364 appreciate it, I try my best to not comment things like bibleman8010 above us. I was more commenting for the Protestants who might be confused and scroll down to see if anyone addressed what they were confused about. When the video is about Mary, one of the most repetitive arguments had between Roman Catholics and non-Roman Catholics, the talking points are going to sound the same. It's not as though Hugh is doing a lot of innovating in this video. But the things I especially feel compelled to address are when Protestantism gets misrepresented, especially things like Sola Scriptura. My reason for commenting long stuff like that is also for the lay Roman Catholic who watches this video and sees no opposing views; they might just become that much more solidified that theirs is the only viewpoint that's rational and not think about anything (see Hugh's other videos with titles like "Deprogramming the Protestant Mind", "Protestants Can't Experience True Worship", and "Protestants are completely Irrational").
@@mikekukovec4386 - "When the video is about Mary, one of the most repetitive arguments had between Roman Catholics and non-Roman Catholics, the talking points are going to sound the same. It's not as though Hugh is doing a lot of innovating in this video." There's no innovating to be done, truthfully. Many Protestants are hanging to one or more errors that the early Church discussed, dogmatized the orthodoxy, and moved on from. We're having a discussion that in many ways is a over a thousand years old. Marion theology pops up almost immediately in the early Church. People were rejecting title "Mother of God" because they did not accept the full divinity of Christ. Modernly those connections are more hidden, but they do exist. Many Protestants really are struggling on some level with the full Divinity of Christ. They've accepted his humanity, but the struggle on His other nature is very real. "they might just become that much more solidified that theirs is the only viewpoint that's rational and not think about anything (see Hugh's other videos with titles like "Deprogramming the Protestant Mind", "Protestants Can't Experience True Worship", and "Protestants are completely Irrational")." I've shadowed just Catholic channels for years. I'm not trolling other Christians. The amount of vitriol, repetitive arguments, lack of Scripture knowledge, and quite often just outright arrogance from Protestants trying to "save us" boggles the mind. Maybe 1 in 10 is here to seriously ask questions. The rest are here to save us from supposed acts of idolatry, that Heaven help me, they would not recognize if I pointed it out to them. When I find sincere Catholics, I find sanity. The IRL Catholics I know are not perfect, but they are content and having human problems. Unless they are in the process of rejecting the Church, marble loss is not an issue. Thankfully I am not judging by online presence, but the same does not appear to be said entirely for Protestants. Again, your posts show a great deal of intelligence and kindness. However, it's not the norm, at least online. Protestants need to hear some of the ideas that they mostly seem to project onto Catholics. If nothing else, a vague awareness of how they generally talk about Catholics and how it sounds like to be on the receiving end is helpful.
Mary or Miriam is her proper Jewish name. Miriam mentioned once who crossed the red sea and sang . But she went against Moses authority and God struck her with leprosy. You see the bible teaches the woman was made for man,not manfor woman,also man born of a woman is of few day's and full of trouble.jesus had same Life. Your marriage at Cana, is against the scripture his humility proved his greatness, told nu, jesus asked John the baptist to baptise him, does that mean he needed repentance,no his humility ,his washing of his disciples feet, again his humility,not because he was their servant .
@@frederickanderson1860- Mary is her proper name in English. The defense of Mary does not need to involve invoking Protestant attitudes around language nor comparing her to a genuinely sinful woman.
It does not matter. The Immaculate Conception does not contradict their views or previous Church teaching on Mary. It merely details another aspect of Mary.
@@atrifle8364 sola scripture says in 1 John chapter 4: 1 - 6 test. The spirits and the antichrist especially,your Roman papacy signed a treaty in 1929 the Lateran treaty,that gave the church Vatican city,with fascist antichrist Mussolini and in 1933 concordat with chancellor Adolf Hitler, which eventually paved him into a dictator ship and his policies against the Jewish especially.. of course that is ignored just the usual rants against protestants.ur church were worse.
@@atrifle8364 she was Jewish that speaks volumes plus jesus is joshua.the disciples we're Jewish. Proves how Ur church persecuted and labelled them God killers and the blood libel was extreme.
Look in a book...Oh how horrible, actually looking at the book called a Bible says...How horrible! God forbid Catholics actually be told what God says about Mary that contradicts their programming.
@@atrifle8364 _We have looked in a book. Read Luke 1 and tell me if you are doing what Mary prophecies about._ Prophecies are not commands to be done. If you mean by prophecies, even though that's not a prophecy, but if you are saying her saying generations will call her blessed, being blessed is not "veneration" or worship like Catholics do, which means it's Catholics who are the ones who are not doing her "prophecy". She doesn't say "Bless me future generations" either. And you may have looked in it, but you don't accept what it says, you don't believe it, like the Catholic Skeptic claims of Christians in one of his videos. In Luke 1 Mary says God is her Savior, which means Savior from her sin. And the fact that she is dead proves she was a sinner needing a Savior. Death is a result of original sin. So you agree now that Mary is not sinless, right? That means the immaculate conception doctrine is false and so the Catholic church is a false church.
@@RaiderWolf-yd6nm Do you really think you follow the Bible teaching? You have mentioned Mary in your post. I will prove from your very own words (or lack of) that you do not follow all of Scripture, but pick and choose as you see fit. Luke 1:48 "Henceforth", means from the moment she said it until the end of time. "All generations", I would presume includes you as well as myself and everyone who has lived ever since the time she said it. "Shall/Will", denotes a command and not a suggestion. "Call me Blessed".🤦♂️
@@bibleman8010 Mary is blessed for sure. Her and Joseph are formost during christmas and her figurines are brought out and christmas cards have her on them her story is told all the time. After christmas is over, back in the box and into the closet she goes until next yr.
