According to Intel Ark, the N95, N100, & N200 are single channel memory only. The difference between the N100 and N200 are the max turbo frequency (3.4 vs 3.7) and iGPU execution units (24 vs 32) with the max iGPU speed the same. I'd be interested in seeing the difference between the N95 and the N100 in terms of iGPU performance because the N95 has a higher TDP (15W vs 6W) and the iGPU speed can go up to 1.2GHz vs 750MHz on the N100/N200. It does have less execution units (16 vs 24) compared to the N100, but that's why I'm curious on which performs better and if it's worth the extra TDP overhead (heat and power usage).
Even the i3-N305 and i3-N300 have single channel memory, despite having 8 cores and "Core" branding. These CPUs are a nice uplift in some cases, but will fall completely flat in others. When it uses single channel DDR4 it can have less bandwidth than Jasper Lake.
@Garrus Vakarian It's possible that single-channel DDR5 can be a regression (from Jasper Lake). Example, 2x DDR4-3600 vs. 1x DDR5-5200. We need to see lots of benchmarks of these when they appear on the market.
@@youtwobe3507 The Alder Lake-N series apparently uses the memory controller from Alder Lake rather than the one from Jasper Lake. Memory performance in Passmark can be better than Jasper Lake despite comparing single channel to dual channel.
I think the EUs cap out at 32. Then again, it is only an issue with more than 80EUs, a i7-1260p Iris Xe graphics will become UHD with 1 stick of RAM so it isn't that concerning. But perhaps only the DDR5/LPDDR5 models is worth getting due to the dual 32-bit channels.
@@NathanMartin11 It's almost like the reviewers are trying to hide that 1 detail as if Intel doesn't have it publicly listed on their ark website and people don't have internet access and won't find out.
@@namyun2743 at the least it is careless, for sure, and at the most.... hmmm? I looked it up immediately on the first N100 review I saw, it was literally my first instinct to check on the product page, and yet the few reviews on the N100 I've see so far have made this error without checking it out for themselves. It's a big enough error, especially in this particular video, to post a follow up video correcting the mistake.
It's incredible how these new low-power processors have already overtaken the old cpus, like quad2core/ i5 2/3 generation. Old processors are a power bomb with very little force. technology has advanced a lot in efficiency... when I tested an i3 6100u tdp15w for the first time (6th generation remembering) I was scared by its RIDICULOUS consumption, monitoring app: 0.5w idle, 4-9w running 1080p60 videos on youtube haha Curious to see the consumption of this n100/n200 or i3n300 with 6-7w tdp
@@sergiohilario426 new intel cpus (12th gen and later) have 2 types of cores inside them - powerful big P-cores that give amazing performance, and small E-cores that are similar in performance to something like 2015 skylake (7-year old big cores) N100 lacks P-cores completely, similar to other N series intel products
@@BusAlexey Not saying it's not misleading, just saying how they're referenced. He's showing the performance of the CPU so calling it out as using E cores doesn't seem necessary.
N100 (if the info is correct), offers hardware AV1 encoding, which if true, means that it's a perfect mini pc for home server and plex. Nice step up from n5105 mini pcs, which were everywhere last year.
Grab the Dell Latitude 3120 from Amazon for $120. It uses the N6000, which has 32 execution units and is 6 watts. It’s faster than this mini PC in every regard, and cheaper. I’m using it for Plex server right now, and it does multiple 4K HEVC to 1080p h264 transcodes concurrently, and direct play is virtually unlimited. I stopped at about 25 simultaneous streams and this thing was chugging along just fine. But I’ve had 3+ HEVC to h264 transcodes going simultaneously with a bunch of direct play *WITH* subtitles…..and it’s perfect. It also has about 30% faster GPU.
would be nice to see some fanless x86 handhelds made with these chips, obvs you're trading performance compared to the better AMD chips - but you're getting a silent handheld with much longer battery life
N100 also supports DDR5 at 4800 MT/s. Would be interesting to see if that helps with lack of second memory channel. But we'll have to wait for another model of this MiniPC for that.
@@NathanMartin11 yea I was referring to the DDR5 architectural changes that allow more chunks of data to be exchanged. I do know it is single channel so I am interested in how it performs
The little thing looks nice, but I'm not entirely sure about calling it cheap. $200 on discount and without either RAM or storage - the cheapest combo on the site adds a whopping $120!
@@destructodisk9074 The thing is, it can't run any modern windows game, not a decent emulator,can't even run windows smoothly, why bother ? For $200 you can get a old samsung flagship phone, better emulator, better desktop experience with dex, and it's a fully functional phone after all
@@destructodisk9074 Its not that hard. Minisforum is currently selling barebones Ryzen 5 4500U for $219. So for extra $20 you can get a 6 core processor with near 180% better geekbench performance than N100. With greater than 200% increased graphics performance (Nightraid graphics score for 4500u is 12345 versus 4776 for N100).
all the N series, including the 8core core i3-N3XX are only single channel memory. these will be more interesting for net/nas systems. these are all ecores of course.
really impressive what can be done with around 5W TDP these days! Intel N100 is basically the equivalent of an i5 2500 of a just over a decade ago. Many people today are still using sandy bridge / Ivy bridge based PCs for general computing and HTPC. Would be nice if it was capable of dual channel mode, but either way nice work Intel! Getting back to that grindstone again eh lol
5:30 Geekbench 5 scores are slightly higher than my i5 8250u laptop with 8GB dual channel RAM and 500GB NVMe SSD. For an N series chip at this price, very impressive!
this 6w chip boasts equivalent performance to the i5 2500k in my home server build... the latter one being rated at 95w and actually consuming 45-60w under load. cool
Old processors are a power bomb with very little power. technology has advanced a lot in efficiency... when I tested an i3 6100u tdp15w for the first time (6th generation remembering) I was scared by its RIDICULOUS consumption, monitoring app: 0.5w idle, 4-9w running 1080p60 videos on youtube haha Curious to see the consumption of this n100/n200 or i3n300 with 6-7w tdp
@@NathanMartin11 And perfect windows support too. I have a n5105 and it runs windows amazingly, it has become my main pc (gaming is done on the Xbox sx though).
May I suggest a new test for you to do on these mini PCs? I'd like to know how well they perform doing OBS recording/streaming. A) Can they do it, B) What hardware compressions are supported, and C) What resolutions would be "acceptable" for 30 or 60 fps game streaming? Thanks. I do enjoy the videos.
Are you sure about the power usage measurements? On RobTech's RU-vid review "Alder Lake N is Finally Here! Morefine M9 Mini PC Review" his power at the wall measurements were for idle 9W and for max 34W. See timestamp 9:07
Could you add some esports titles? I'm guessing that's what this would be pretty good for and that's what most people play anyway. Just stuff like Valorant, DOTA 2, CS GO, Apex Legends.
The N100 looks quite decent. I am excited to see the N200 and even the i3-n305. Was thinking to upgrade from my dying i7-3667U laptop but it seems to be on the same performance tier as a N5100. Hope the N200 and i3-N305 so I can play with one too!
Been using my pi4 as a desktop for its low power consumption. This looks like my next upgrade, 20w modern system that performs. These are the advances I love nowadays.
I wanted to get or hack together a RK3588/Pi4 laptop or mini desktop but I always found it too expensive for the performance :( this seems like a better value.
bet thats a painful experience can you even play this video in a browser lol Im still using a 2014 athlon 5350 mini itx pico psu 10 watt idle about 20 watts while watching 1080p video, one day il upgrade to one of these cpus
@@si4632 yes, even like my i7-5775C runs so much better. In the past when Atoms and sometimes Celerons/Pentiums were horrible, the improvements that Intel is making is actually quite decent now. Unless you have a niche use case, I can't justify myself getting one. I was very interested in the Firefly ITX RK3588 or maybe even the HoneyComb LX2 but the hardware is so outdated and the midrange phones can beat those systems. If only there was a way to turn smartphones into SBCs, that would have been nice
Chuwi makes a 10" laptop version using this CPU/APU, it has 12GB RAM, but uses DD5 single channel. Look really interesting device. I'm still looking for a full review like yours though.
@@twitchgirls-9005 2 channels has not only high memory bandwidth, but lover latency. For games CPU need lower memory latency. GPU need higer bandwidth. 2 chanels gives 2x bandwidth. But latency decrease is not so simple. Ofc 2 chanels will helps. You will also need a lower CL number at memory sticks (not actual here because of no XPM). Also you MUST get (SO)DOMM modules with 8 (or 16) memory chips, NOT 4 (secondary request features). For CPUs like this 1 channel will be enough, if it will be DDR5 (not DDR4 3200). You can find similar device with 8gb DDR5 for ~150$. But look at 16gb devices or devices without preinstalled RAM. 8gb mean longer secondary requests letency. And browser need a lot of RAM today)
For the price point this unit is terrible. The beelink ser5, youve recently promoted, retails for the same price with a Ryzen 5 5560. Why are you promoting this crap? Just pumping out videos for no reason. 👍
It looks like you used a Dual Rank module from Crucial, but if it's not Dual Rank, I'd love to see a comparison in performance between Single/Dual Rank. As many others, I'm also very curious about the performance of these "N' CPUs with DDR5 4800.
I picked up an N95 mini PC for $189 on Amazon the other day to build a opnsense router, it's supposedly faster than the N100, this little PC has 16GB of ram and 512GB SSD, it's really a tremendous value. It works great as a little router. Didn't test emulation on it :).
It's disappointing that all the new N series CPUs are single channel only. If there was a higher end one that supported dual channel it would be great. These CPUs are intereseting for home lab and one has quicksync/av1 support which is interesting.
They can't give you all the performance. They have to trickle it out little by little or else your won't continuously upgrade and they'll go out of business
Just saw it on ark. Intel doing it wrong. If I need something like that about performance I will take desktop i3 12/13th gen and downclock/downvolt it. In this series there is 8core n300 - that's very using 1channel memory only on such cool cpu
Where is the additional video for n100 you mentioned? Or maybe 1 on a build that support ddr5/lpddr5 at 4800 which should still offer 50% more bandwidth than what you have here despite being single channel?
I don't mind this, but it strikes me as basically an Intel-powered Atari VCS without the proprietary software, or maybe a potential Steam console... something dedicated to light gaming and emulation, but flexible enough for everyday computing. You really can't beat the price!
I'm considering starting with a Dell Wyse 5070 Extended, which has a PCIe interface, and then upgrading to an RX 6400, which will be the most powerful thin client.
@@jierenzheng7670 I use the non-PCIE internet faces for other projects, such as ways to make money with Myst, HoneyGain, Peer2Profit, Streamr, and a few others. They are cheap enough that I can get my RIO back in 4 months or less.
This is 150 with 8gb / 256gb right now on Amazon, looking forward to any N100 systems available on Prime day but the competition is heating up on these N100 machines..
Been looking at a mini pc with this cpu for emulation, my current i7 has a slightly lower STR and manages emulation, this cpu has an STR of 1960 so should do the trick.
Even a simple j4125 that you can get for 100$ is a raspberry killer. It trounces the rpi4 cpu and it has full driver support on windows and Linux. And all that being cheaper and including everything you need.
I just picked up a Beelink N95 min pc from Amazon for $199 and came with 8gb DDR4 and 256gb nmve. What is better a N95 or N100? I am looking to emulate games up to PS2. I have not opened the mini PC yet. I could return the PC and just get a Beelink 5600H as I know it can emulate PS2 but that is another $200 I have to spend. Trying to spend $300 minimum.
@@hectorallende-cid944 they shared the drivers with me and I've uploaded to the cloud and posted them in the reviews video but the moderators didn't accept the comment...
I'm just looking for a mini-PC for everyday task like web browsing and watching YT. This is just what I wanted. One question for you. Does it come with windows installed? If so, considering the price tag for Win11, I might choose a ready-built rather than a barebone.
Finally, what appears to be hardware accelerated AV1 video on a low powered Intel chipset. But only having USB 3.2 Gen ports is not that great and the single channel RAM is a definite downside. The increase in benchmark performance is good though and Jasper Lake will surely see heavy discounts being far less capable in comparison. Look forward to the Batocera test. Still more expensive than I think that is should come in at. Those power consumption figures are great though, which will make it a potential contender at this point in the market.
According to Intel Ark, even the Intel N200 processor only supports single channel memory. There is another Intel Core i3-N300 which also only supports single channel ram. But all these N series processors do support DDR5 4800, on top of DDR4 3200.
4W idle and 16W for basic gaming is great. But is there any MINI-PC with even better effectivity? Im keep looking for some gaming mini machine with gaming consumption around 10W, but no rapsberry.
Not bad, still beats a win600. Not sure what Intel trying to do by limiting all gracemont cpus to single channel though. Some of the cheaper/oldest Ryzen mini PCs might be a better choice for abit more.
I see a mini PC like this and I want to install Linux on it and use WINE and Proton to play PC games from the XP days that don't want to play nice with newer versions of Windows.
can you test the performance of the intel N305 and compare it to the N100 and the N6005 as it is expected to be all over the 2023 mini pc it is found in the Beelink EQ12 pro or
There won't be any dual-channel models. All the new Intel "Processor" branded processors are single channel only. Everything from the N50, N97, N100, N200, core i3-N300, core i3-N305 are all single channel. Intel intentionally crippled the Alder-Lake N processors to prevent competition with their higher priced product.
So, Intel discontinued Celeron & Pentium names & simply rebranded them as N-series processors? Ok, but removing dual-channel RAM support? I can sense that Intel simply wants us to chip in more money & jump straight with i3 & i5 new gen series.
It's interesting that Intel released a product that may have problems directly competing with its previous generation in that is has significantly lower performance in some metrics.
