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What I like about The Perrys: 1) Ya'll are hilarious! 2) Ya'll are well-studied ("be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.", II Timothy 2:15) 3) Ya'll are wise ("he who wins souls is wise, Prov. 11:30b) I am inspired 💗
Born and raised as a Mormon and stopped going to the church ever since I left to go to college (2017). When I was in high school “something” told me that I needed to seek another church. Long story short 6 years and baptized as a Christian later , god revealed to me his marvelous plan. That “something” was the Holy Spirit and it was a 6 year journey to get saved. God placed specific people in my life for this reason. My family is still Mormon, majority of my friends are Mormon I pray for them.
I love the conversation that Preston had with the Mormon guy because I'm sure many others on that plane were listening to that conversation quietly and a seed was planted. 🤗
Not yall roasting my name and question🤣 but thank yall. I asked this question in Glory Vegas but remember there was no wifi for the phone🤣. Thanks for answering "COUSINS" . YES eden and I as 1st born of 4 natural leaders🙏🏽
I was a mormon; and when I found out how demonic it was I ran to Jesus of the Bible (Because the Mormon Jesus is not biblical) and How the Lord opened my eyes was amazing! I am so grateful that I have been delivered from religious and Occult spirits. Now I pray for other Mormons could have their eyes open.
Im still a member of the Church please share more about your experience. This is my greatest struggle. I feel that LDS folks follow the same Christ as everyone else. I really want to know how I can see this differently (sincerely)
@@guitocivil4451 First I'd advice you to pray! Pray sincerely, forget everything the church has taught you and ask God to reveal to you the truth. Then read the bible Alone (dont read the BOM whilst you are on this quest), preferably do not read the one you get from the LDS. Begin by reading the book of John, then Mark and Exodus. There are many "foundational" truths that are different to LDS doctrine. Pay attention to God's form and how he interacts with Moses and all the other prophets, then compare that to Joseph Smiths "testimony" of how God appeared to him. Keeping in mind the scriptures that God is not a Man, that he should lie (Numbers 23:19) this scripture alone goes against Mormon Doctrine. I hope this gives you something to start with. Do your own research on the lives of the founders of the LDS church from outside sources, and ask yourself if these men's lives are like those that are in the bible who God interacted with. How many sources outside the LDS church can prove the locations, and decendents of the people the BOM speaks about? There is so much to unravel if you give yourself the right mind to do it. Why doesnt the LDS church encourage independent research? GALATIANS 1:8 says: But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed. So the Angel Moroni who preached a different gospel than that of the bible is cursed according to Galations 8:1 @@guitocivil4451
The fact that y’all pay SO much attention to your children spiritually and naturally is MIND BLOWING!!!! I applaud y’all 👏🏽💙 Especially with what Preston said about his son. Not receiving adequate male affection and affirmation created a desire in me to reach out to men sexually to gain those things. Love y’all!! This is good!!💙💙💙
When Preston said that the LGBTQ+ question wasnt for him after he said all that bout the mormon rlly shows me how powerful each persons experience and past is important now to help pthers to Christ.
Being able to just discuss with a random stranger about the gospel is a grace I definitely need to be strengthened in me. We gotta preach this gospel, We really have to.
I think silence can also be a trauma thing from childhood. I say this from personal experience because anytime my dad would be upset with me. He wouldn't talk to me. But when he talked to me he talked in great lengths and lectures. So I think that's why some people find silence hard because maybe that was a form of discipline or punishment.
Jackie's reaction to her husband and the way that he loves their son was the reaction y'all were wanting when Preston praises her face. What a sweet time, thank you for sharing everything you have with us
Love the discussion here on Mormonism. As a former Mormon myself, I think it’s really important to help Christians understand what Mormons believe so that we can better evangelize to them. I have to say that the Mormon you had that conversation with, Preston, gave you some misinformation-likely not intentionally. Most Mormons don’t know their own doctrine or history very well. Myth, folklore, and personal interpretation pervade the LDS community. I learned this first hand on my Mormon mission. Mormon missionaries aren’t just tasked with converting people to Mormonism. They also teach fellow Mormons in the congregation that they’re assigned to. There’s 2 reasons why this is done: 1. to help reactivate less active members of the congregation; 2. to ensure that all members of the congregation understand the fundamentals of the Mormon doctrine. However, in each case, it’s done under the guise that the missionaries are practicing for when they teach non-Mormons. Missionaries go through rigorous training on Mormon doctrine and continue their studies daily-they’re up to snuff on their doctrine. Throughout my mission, I found that many actively practicing Mormons did not know the basics of their doctrine. From what I’ve observed, this is likely due to many hearing the information a handful of times throughout their life, misremembering, not studying their materials critically, and coming to their own conclusions and interpretations. It also doesn’t help that LDS leaders themselves have their own interpretations and doctrines and will disagree with one another. “Today’s revelation is tomorrow’s heresy,” a phrase that is common from ex-Mormons who have observed this fracture in LDS leadership. That being said, I’d like to correct the info that Mormon on the plane gave you. A summary of the misinformation: - The Book of Mormon (BoM) was not translated in a day - The BoM was not claimed to be written by an angel - The reason why Mormons see the BoM as necessary - Why Mormons believe God’s church was lost and needed restoring In going over this, I hope it helps you understand Mormonism better and how to speak God’s word to what Mormons believe. Let’s start with Joseph Smith. Joseph grew up during the second great awakening of Protestantism. It was a period of religious zeal, conversions in the hundreds, and tensions between different denominations. According to what the LDS church teaches, at age 14, Joseph was confused about which church to join. Following the admonition given in James 1:5-6, he went into the woods and asked God to know which church was ‘true’. He claims that God and Jesus appeared to him in a pillar of light to answer his prayer. They told him that none of the denominations were true, that they were an abomination to God, and to join none of them. Some time later, Joseph is visited several times by an angel named Moroni. Moroni told Joseph that there were gold plates buried nearby that contained ‘the fulness of the gospel’. Moroni told Joseph that at the right time, God would use Joseph to translate the plates so that the fulness of the gospel could be restored to the Earth. He then went on to quote several passages of the Bible (out of context) that foretold of this restoration. He also told Joseph that when he received the plates, he was not to show them to anyone. At 17, Moroni lead Joseph to where the gold plates were buried. Joseph retrieved them along with a device called the Urim and Thummim which would allow Joseph to translate the plates. The translation took 3 months. Joseph would sit on one side of a curtain with the plates and the Urim and Thummim and would read the translation aloud. On the other side of the curtain sat his scribe, Oliver Cowdery, who wrote down everything Joseph dictated. During these 3 months, Joseph ‘learned’ about priesthood authority, which is essentially the authority to represent God, act in his name, and lead and administrate his church. Joseph claims that John the Baptist, Peter, James, and John all appeared to him and Oliver. They passed the priesthood authority on to them both, after which Joseph and Oliver baptized each other. Mormons claim that there is an unbroken line of priesthood authority beginning with Adam, passed down to the 12 apostles, passed on to Joseph and Oliver, and passed down to present day Mormons. From here, Joseph had everything he needed to go and ‘restore’ God’s one, true church on Earth. He called 12 apostles to help him lead the church and they ratified him as the modern-day prophet and head of the church. You can read most of what I covered here on the LDS church’s website: www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/pgp/js-h/1?lang=eng. This narrative can also be found in the 4th set of scripture Mormons believe in, which is called The Pearl of Great Price. Also, 11 others were allowed to see the gold plates before they were “taken up back to heaven”. There are 2 sets of testimonies from these witnesses in the beginning of each copy of the BoM, found here: www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm/three?lang=eng and here: www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm/eight?lang=eng. OK, let’s dig into some of the details I just covered. In order for there to be a ‘restoration’ of God’s church, there had to be a falling away. Joseph taught that once the last apostle of Christ died, the authority to lead God’s church was lost. He goes on to say that the Christians from then on had no authority to teach or lead and that their doctrines and interpretations were corrupt. They refer to the period between the last apostle of Christ and Joseph Smith as The Great Apostasy. Mormons also don’t grasp what’s taught in 1 Cor. 12:12-27 on the different parts of the church that make up the body of Christ. While Christian denominations can accept each other as valid members of the body due to shared core beliefs (the Trinity, the resurrection of Christ and salvation through him, the Bible being God’s word, etc), Mormons believe that a church must have the correct interpretation on all matters in order to be God’s church. Along with that, they believe in the concept of ‘continuing revelation’ wherein God continues to appoint officials on his behalf to reveal his truth and will to the world. Therefore, if that official is on the Earth, then those who follow that official are obeying the Lord. Additionally, Mormons see the Bible as insufficient to know all that God has for us to know. They believe that through its many interpretations over the centuries that the original meanings and truths were lost. This is part of the reason why they see need for the Book of Mormon which they refer to as Another Testament of Christ. The Book of Mormon is asserted to be the scriptures of ancient Israelites that crossed the Atlantic, settled Central and South America, and their history and interactions with God. The BoM is composed of entries from several different prophets from the time of the Tower of Babel, through roughly 400 AD. The second to last prophet in the BoM is named Mormon. He was instructed to compile all of the writings of the prophets before him onto a set of gold plates. This is where the BoM gets its name. Mormon’s son, Moroni (the same Moroni that visited Joseph), finished the compilation after Mormon died and then buried the plates where God instructed him to. You can read the LDS church’s official intro/summary of the BoM here: www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm/introduction?lang=eng The LDS church asserts that the Book of Mormon is necessary for 2 reasons. 1. it gives a lens through which to properly interpret the Bible, thereby settling the debates between Christian denominations. 2. its authenticity proves that Joseph Smith is an actual prophet of God and further proof that God restored his church through Joseph. I hope this clarifies the details of the Mormon church’s history and what they believe. There’s much more that could be said: other beliefs that have come out of Mormonism, the actual events of what happened with Joseph Smith as opposed to the LDS’s official accounts, and the mountain of evidence that stands against the validity of both the BoM and Joseph Smith’s claim to be a prophet. I’ve been a Christian for 6 years now and explaining Mormonism to Christians is always an endeavor. Their theological language is similar to ours, there’s common misinformation about Mormons in the mainstream, and Mormons themselves are usually not reliable sources for explaining their own beliefs. I hope this has been helpful to you. If you have questions about what I’ve written here or other aspects of Mormonism, I’d be happy to continue a dialogue with y’all!
Awesome! I am LDS also & while listening to Preston’s encounter with this LDS member, I kept saying, no, that’s not really what is taught in the Mormon church. But I did appreciate how respectful Preston was with him. That was so thoughtful. But I also appreciate your response & corrections made in regard to that conversation. I hope more people will take the time to read your response. Thank you!👍❤️🧡💙💚💛💜🩷🩵🤎🤍💕🙏🏼😊
Through the miracle of technology, it is such a *privilege* to be able to get a glimpse into what God did for you two both as individuals but also as a couple and THEN to see how you both steward the gift of parenthood. To go on this (virtual) journey with you and your family has been such a beautiful testimony of what God can do when we make the decision to give him our lives. I remember when you the footage from when you 2 were just dating, and now look! Although I know that you experience trials and trouble like everyone else, please know that your lives are so beautiful, your family an inspiration and we are sooo grateful that you share some of that with us. Both of your teaching gifts are 🔥🔥. KEEP shining!!!🙏🏽❤
Extrovert here 🙋🏽♀️ My introverted husband literally asked me one time “are you uncomfortable with silence?” 😂😅 That one question taught me so much about myself & my insecurities. God has been teaching me the value of stillness & silence since then. 🙏🏽 Oh, and because hubby loves me he helps me out a lot in this. When we’re at a dinner table and a moment of awkward silence occurs, and he notices me itching to fill the void, he nudges me as if to gesture: it’s ok to let the moment breathe babe 😂😩😩
Wow the way you both beautifully articulated the characteristics/personalities of your Children has helped unlock something in me. I’m most definitely like Sage. I wish this was nurtured in me as a kid, rather than being looked upon negatively as being over sensitive.
Same! I’m extremely sensitive and when I was a kid, I cried a lot or pouted. lol Now it’s rare that I cry because I was made to feel that I’m too emotional or sensitive. My husband accepts my feelings and emotions. So I can unravel in front of him and not feel crazy afterwards.
Same here, but I've learned I have the spiritual gift of empathy. I feel deeply for others can't even watch a commercial w/ out crying sometimes. But this gift isn't talked about much. It annoys people because I can always see others side to why they did something wrong and justify it. But the temptation is to not go through the right process of forgiveness to when someone hurts me. 😊
I especially loved the talk about the kiddos... After two years in prison I'm finally getting my daughter back in my life and now that my life is God centered I've definitely been contemplating what this version of motherhood will be like and what new roles I will have. This was very helpful. I am so excited for this long awaited journey to begin.
A leader once mentioned to me that sarcasm is rooted in bitterness. I thought about it and realized it is true. Since then I try to be mindful of avoiding sarcasm.
@@eden6768it depends on if it’s done tastefully and it depends on the relationship you have with someone. This is a podcast with her best friend and husband, the sarcasm is playful and acceptable here.
The way you both speak about your children is beautiful... In terms of how you're taking time to analyse their unique nature's, gifts and abilities, and, prayerfully assisting them in their growth and development.
I love to see it & hear it especially being someone who grew up around adults who didn’t esteem their kids in a positive way & acted like their children are a burden
I don't like long videos. I like videos of less than 10 minutes. But I listen to this one till the end without being bored for a second. Keep up the good work!
Maybe you should work on your patience. And I understand that most people are not that way at all. And I’m so grateful for their longer videos. Can’t hardly get anything out of even a half an hour.
I love this! This really has me interested in learning the proper way to defend our faith. I don't think we as Christians have been properly trained on asking ourselves why we believe what we believe and when approached how to speak those truths in a factual way vs just saying the evidence of tongues or arguing ideas.
Sarafina was shot 5 houses from my mom's house in the 90s. I also love that movie. It makes me happy to know that this South African movie shot in Orlando East Soweto is one of Jackie's favorite movies 😍
Mormons came to our house and we read their "testament" and compared verse to verse to the Bible, including the one Preston mentioned. All in love. They were just kids and I hope we were able to plant seeds. They kept coming back until they realized we were trying to convert them and were never going to cave.
De’Shayle…that question brought out so much introspection for me in regards to how I am acknowledging and building my children’s spiritual gifts. It took the Perry’s down a beautiful spiral. Thank you!! “God is seeking a Godly scene!”!!!
I really appreciated your expression about how attentive you are toward your children. Jackie the way you identify their sin struggles, as well as their gifts and how they coincide simultaneously with one another…was a delight to hear.
THESE conversations and questions are so necessary, so on time and so needed! Intentional parenting is beautiful and I love the way you guys just explained how each of your children are different. Praying over your children is a must. Thank ya'll so much for sharing ♥
I love this, i love hearing Jackie talk about homesexuality it always opens my eyes and gives me content for the next time i have to make such a conversation because we are at a point where the church is confused on this issue and need a whole lot more of wisdom and understanding ❤ thank you two for these podcasts
😂 I hear "I don't know whether to feel encouraged or discouraged" very funny Preston....but love the work. God bless you... am honesty always blessed and refreshes by your teachings❤ more 🙏 Grace!
Thank you for been so honest about your kids good and not so great side of your kids. My Son is like your 3rd child, cries easily and all. I pray for him too and try to talk to him about not haveing to cry for lil things or things that are not worth crying for tho it's Okay to cry but not over everything. Thank you for this
i identify with sage so much 😂 she’s so young but it’s such a hard thing to process. knowing i’m such an emotional person that my emotions can very much take a hold of me and make everything feel so dramatic and up and down like waves! it’s a blessing being able to be there for people and just listen to people but it sucksss when it’s more so tearing you down. i’m so self aware i tear myself down at times but i’m trying to learn how to love myself and this “different” personality of mine 🤣
Wow, We just found our english version couple. We have a video podcast, talking about our couple and all subjects that couple have. Merci beaucoup, keep going
I love you guys.❤ Jackie you and your husband have definitely been a blessing to my soul and Spirit. To hear the things you all address and to know that I have experienced them first hand and know that I handled things well and I'm definitely on the right path with individuals who believe in God like know other because of the way God has shown Himself so evident and present in my life. I pray that God continues to keep His hands and His Love on me. I'm NOTHING WITH HIM.
Great episode again. I can relate with the part about your kids so much and it’s great to hear their gifts and struggles plus how y’all respond to them. I see similar things in my 3 boys
I loved the last part of this episode because I can identify with Jackie. I’m also very very empathetic. When Jackie spoke about praying for resilience and perseverance for her daughter I felt that. Thank you both for sharing your stories and being transparent. ❤
I love that Sarafina is on the list. Every public school makes us watch it in SA as a part of our history. It's a beautiful movie. Knowing my home and it's history would be on Mt Rushmore in Jackie's mind makes me happy
This was so relevant to me, I have the same 3 daughters regarding their personalities 😆 total of 7 kids , 5 in the home now, along with my observations I definitely rely on God’s guidance in cultivating and guiding them they are all so different. Me listening to this today was so timely too… I am listening as I clean, and I just went up into the room of my daughter, who gets very easily distracted. She told me that she cleaned it up , but it was still looking a hot mess to me, clearly she was overwhelmed and this was a reminder for me not to lose my temper with her when she gets home, but to give her a list of focused tasks she can focus on to give her the tools to organize certain areas.
it’s wonderful to hear you both reflect on your children. To have parents who take the time to know them and with that knowledge guide them to greatness is very beautiful. God bless you
its otherworldly how the Lord uses the both of you, thank you for your obedience to him - how blessed we are to reap from that. God Bless you both & your family
Practicing Latter-day Saint here. There are some fundamental inaccuracies in how our church was characterized in this video. I take no offense, because it’s tough to get the whole accurate story of a whole religious movement during a conversation on an airplane; but just for an example, The Book of Mormon was not “written” in one night from a dictation of an Angel visiting Joseph Smith. It was actually translated (with a series of scribes) over the space of about two months from engravings on ancient metal plates. This was my first experience with this podcast but I wish that the hosts had done a little more homework on the actual origins of the Church rather than “some guy on an airplane.” All good though. God bless.
Will there be a part 2 to this!? The parenting tips was incredible. Wow. To hear them speak so highly of their children is so impeccable. Need more parents tips.
I’m probably a fair bit older than either of you, but that aside, could you two adopt me? You two are brilliant parents. Where did you learn to be such godly young parents?
My husband does the same to me, compliment me at the most random times and people get on to me because I don’t say omg thank you so much. Like k, we understand us. We’ve been US for quite sometime, 22 years. We get this
I enjoy y'all's interaction so much that I could just listen to y'all talk all day. Thank you for helping my understanding of things and for giving me more ways to make the bible applicable to my life and to those around me. I appreciate you sharing your experiences, your family and your hearts with us. God Bless Always!
I was born and baptized into the Mormon church and I don’t think I have ever been able to fully submerge myself in the religion. To this day I still battle with giving into it. I feel out of place and unworthy in the LDS church. I also feel uncomfortable that at the end of every talk each member ends and reaffirms “I know this is the true church”. That has always felt cult like to me.
Interesting conversation about the Mormon Church my sister had me go a couple times when we were younger and I always felt the vibe of zero African-American people but yeah you're insight about them not going to scriptures confirm that the prophet is a true prophet was very enlightening God bless you all
Joseph Smith is as looney of a story to us (Christians) as Jesus Christ is looney to an Atheist! We must stay humble and realize that FAITH of any type is looney when confronted with intelligence! ☀️💚 Saying “The bible says ____” as the answer to questions or as a reference point ALWAYS requires FAITH!
Difference is that Christianity is historically and protephitically true. It's based on evidence and not blind faith. True believers should always say what the bible says because God's words are true regardless if someone believes or not. God gives wisdom, any fool can be intelligent. There are millions of intelligent fools in hell and on their way to hell. Is there any other book that has higher authority than the bible?
Thanks for sharing enjoyed it all especially parenting - we need updates on Sage and August you guys shared so much with Eden and a little more with August would love to see updated pics
