Fear of death, social anxiety, and other angsty things… 

As someone who battled anxiety, Jackie hit everything on the head. Anxiety can make you mean because you’re uncomfortable. I feel so seen lol

I like how Preston genuinelly enjoys Jackie. It's good to see.

Theeeeseee openings 😂😂😂, and then Boom, let's talk about Anxiety, can't do it better than them 😅

"There is nothing that we'll go through that God isn't equipped for!" Yes, Lord 🙌🏽

Preston is sooo right, if we don’t surrender “these” things to God, we certainly could live in a state of constant fear…I was just praying about this for me this morning. Thanks guys for discussing and reminding us that GOD IS IN CONTROL! He promised to never leave nor forsake us…and when we look back, we SEE how He has always been faithful, even through the things we didn’t think would work for our good…WHOO! HALLELUJAH!! ☝🏽🙏🏽✝️

I love how gentle and vulnerable Preston is. It's really a value for his family. I pray he knows that

One of the things that helped me be ok with small talk is realizing that it’s the gateway to a deeper connection. Without it, you can’t get to more intimate conversations without awkwardness.

"if the God of the universe is in the boat with you resting, why aren't you?'" Woooooh I felt that

She’s very wise a lot of the things she says, God has definitely given her that gift. Strange I’ve noticed lot of people like that struggle with social anxiety.

"Small talk is THEE MOST IRRITATING thing" Jackie you are literally My Spirit Animal. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾#Facts

Wooo! I can definitely relate to Preston on the fear of death. I lost my dad to heart failure at 18, literally watched him take his life breath, and then lost 4 more family members over the course of 5 months after that. I was in a constant state of fear and it got the point I had to go to the emergency room because I did not know what to do. I'm realizing that my fear is not dying but not finishing what I start. My dad had business ideas and plans that he made but never got a chance to start or finish. I saw him pray everyday for miracles and it didn't happen, so I stopped trusting God with my life. Now, I'm on this journey of trying to trust God again, but I still have worries of being disappointed. This video was right on time!

I’m an ambivert with social anxiety. It stems from childhood trauma but with prayer, a therapist, breathing exercises, movement, solitude, healthy community and outlets I’m able to manage and self regulate effectively.

Jackie’s description of her daughter mannerism then reference back to her childhood personality couldn’t feel more relatable to the way I grew up it’s my Childhood in a nutshell. Imagine being the youngest and alone with little to no family interaction maybe one good reliable friend your siblings present and absent consistently your father and mother non communicative and you just right there getting bullied in school and desperate to express emotions you never felt before like without the resources. Skip to my present day, it’s hard to hold any relationship because communication and social anxiety are my weaknesses. Honestly, building a relationship with God ultimately helps restore my anxiousness with hopes to better days and learn myself while teaching my Autistic son the tools how to communicate and handle emotion. #ButGOD

Y'all gave a WORD... When Preston started talking about his fear of passing after having his family... Lord spoke to me because that is EXACTLY what I'd been struggling with. I'm a single parent and not that I didn't care about myself prior to having my kiddo, but after having him now I'm always anxious (I pray not to be) about anything happening to me for the sole purpose that I'm his one parent and the sole provider... The Lord has really, really given me grace and peace throughout it all, but thank you Preston for being so open in communicating your own concerns. It was refreshing to hear that I'm not alone in it, and I'm sure others out there feel the same way.

I love that you both discussed the subject of death. I’m just like Preston in the sense that I have been hyper-conscious about death since I was saved at nine years old. I always fixated on how I was going to die and whether it would be painful or not. What I did not realize at the time was that I was not trusting my Lord with my life. The enemy had his way with me for a long time and used that fear to torment me. It is a such a profound statement that Jackie made about the disciples being in the boat with Jesus and then comparing that to us being frantic all the time. I had not even considered the fact that God Himself has created everything in and out of this earth. Everything that we tend to fear is linked with what has already been created. And if He truly has control over all of creation, including the waves of the sea; and if He is indeed the Lord of Hosts that fights for His people, WHICH HE IS AND HE ABSOLUTELY DOES-then we have NO reason to fear anything! In fact, we have dominion and victory over ALL OF OUR FEARS in Jesus. That even includes death. Wow. So much to think about after hearing this conversation! I pray that these truths would cause a stir of boldness to rise in every Christian. In Jesus’s mighty name, amen! Thank you both ❤️

Seeing how she respects you and you love her is such a special thing.

I married an extrovert too. My husband is a talker and so confident. We balance each other out.

The vulnerability they shared about their fears and anxiety is so refreshing! 💦

The profundity in this dialogue. Wow. Y’all went in your bags , and blessed us

I'm an overthinker. There are times when I'm so wowed by the unimaginable and incomprehensible, that I have to literally make myself stop thinking. I still get mind blown looking at my kids like I carried them and now they're literally here talking, laughing, getting on my nerves, etc.

Thank y’all for being examples of what kingdom marriage looks like. I laughed and cried at this episode. I just love how y’all break things down❤❤

I cannot tell you how timely this episode came. Thank you, guys. I've been struggling with fears and uncertainty regarding engagement and marriage with my girlfriend. Because I can't control any of it and I tried to grasp any ounce of control I could have with it, it made things worse. It's so hard to submit something you want so much and are so anxious about not having to the Lord, but as I've been learning and feeling lately, it's so worth it. I'm slowly learning to relax in Christ and enjoy where He has brought me. Thank you, Perrys. God bless you and your family.

'If God is with you and He is resting, then why are you not resting' Cmon Preston!

"The fear of The Most High is the beginning of knowledge; Fools despise wisdom and discipline." (Proverbs 1:7) 6:19 I absolutely agree with Jackie that fear is the missing key to life - we do not fear Him as we should. To me, it appears we first encountered the lack of fear (also lack of listening) between Adam and Eve in the Garden when they both decided to not listen to His Word, and they took counsel from the adversary instead. We then go on to see this over and over throughout scripture: Saul, David etc. Fear and listening go hand in hand, because without Fear you will not listen to His instructions. What helps me overcome my own fear is to remember the scriptures about "good fear"- that I shall not fear man or any situation I'm in. Instead, I need to fear The Most High and endure to the end by following His commands, statutes, percepts etc. His Word tells us He will take care of the rest. This helps me redirect my thoughts and to focus on what matters to Him (righteousness etc.).

Beautiful. I know beliefs vary, but I’m reminded about the value of weekly Sabbath rest in light of the stresses of life-the work of life, as it were. Shabbat shalom!

Preston is such a gentle, sweet soul. I love watching such a positive male influence.

That hyper-vigilance is SO accurate: I've dealt with social anxiety for a long time because I'm also introverted and I'm so aware of literally EVERYTHING and EVERYONE around me. I've grown a LOT over the last two years (my good friends have told me the same), though I've still got some ways to go. Love the Perry's so much and I thank God for this amazingly real couple from whom I've learned so much ❤

Thank you Jackie and Preston, you nailed it for me. I have always been fearful, anxious and foolishly thinking I could control the outcomes with respects for my children’s well being. Two years ago I was snagged in something I won’t get into. My Lord has brought me to my knees to show me my children are His children ALWAYS and He loves them more. He is in control. He wants all good things for those who love Him but also for those who trust Him. I will wait upon the Lord for His Plan is better than mine. Jesus I trust in You!

When I tell you this came at the exact right time in my life! I’ve had anxiety for a long time. It got to a paranoia state and became the WORST this year. Panic attacks, physical, pain, headaches, dizziness, etc. I have had a fear of death due to the unexpected happening in my life. It has taken over my mind. I had gotten stronger in trusting God, but slipped up and the fears came back. Tonight, I was recognizing how my fears were not factual and that I should rest in God. This was the second video on my feed 🙌🏾 Thank you so much for transparency and speaking about mental health, therapy, and anxiety as Christians. I will be watching this again and again.

Jackie is me and I am Jackie! Lol! I do not like small talk, social settings make me very anxious, i don’t trust people, and I’m an over thinker😮‍💨. That combo has made life a living hell at times, but oddly enough people, especially strangers have always been drawn to me. I’ve had several people i don’t even know sit and tell me their life stories. I’ve been plagued with anxiety attacks for years. I do feel like it is the result of years of traumatic experiences, some which no one knows. Death is also a strong source of this. For many years I grieved the thought of losing loved ones because i started experiencing death when i was in the single digit of age. Namely my mom… I would literally burst into tears thinking about her dying. I lost her suddenly last year and that was an experience that words simply can not describe. My ultimate fear had come to pass, but sadly that same intense fear has transferred to my husband😫. I have an extreme fear of him dying😔. I’ve been praying for years for God to remove the fear because He did not give us that spirit. The anxiety can be crippling at times, and also frustrating. I’m introverted, but with the ability to socialize. I spent many years socializing a lot and depleting myself unknowingly. At that particulate time i didn’t even have the language for it. Now that I’m older, I carefully pick and choose who has access to me. I’m trying to work on dealing with my triggers and how to have a reasonable reaction instead of shutting down. It is a hard battle, but peace is my desire and the fight for that is worth it.

I just found this lady this week and I cannot get enough of her preaching and teaching

Whewwww Preston is me… I am Preston. The fact I’m dealing with this Currently after having my first panic attack. My fear of death has increased to a heightened level. So, I’m trying to navigate through it. It’s constantly Ruminating thoughts, overthinking, impending doom, and I be completely safe. I Have God and faith…. However, he has to be calling me CLOSER letting me know that I have to surrender my whole life to him. I’ll get there day by day, I’m doing the Work.

My anxiety is always about loss of family, when they're sick or travel!! I had the best daddy anyone could have and he past away and I thought I felt like I couldn't live through that loss!! Because I had to live through a seriously abusive marriage and that wasn't anything I'd ever even knew existed. Because, in our home my parents never argued or yelled at each other. No cussing, name calling, or any of that. Even us kids weren't allowed to name call each other. But, if we were noisy or misbehaved at church we would get a stern talking to and then dad would give us some swats on the butt. So my therapist explained it like I left " beaver clevers" house and ended up in " freddie krugers" And, thats what cause the deep fear, and anxiety!!! But, I seriously didn't know that families acted like his or like he was treating me!! I've been diagnosed with ptsd, anxiety & depression, & social anxiety. He always threatened to run off with my kids and i stayed in constant fear he would then abuse them!! I always feel I'm not good enough for God to let me into heaven. I became a cutter and I tried to stop on my own and thats an evil spirit so you need more. So i called daddy, because i was in a panic attack so I told daddy what was happening to and I felt like cutting!! So he prayed for about 2 hrs and when I finally released my faith and I felt that spirit leave my body and then I just broke down and cried and felt so released!! Daddy cried and was thanking God for my release, and we just cried together!! So when he passed away I lost my rock to go to for prayer and the one person to pray with. So keep me in your prayets. God Bless you all!!🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

I am 67 years old and last night was at a gathering with a lot of people, and felt myself getting angry and irritated and later, took it out on my husband, oh, I wish I had known when I was Jackie’s age what it looks like to trust God more, And recognize anxiety, and all that goes with it. I am so grateful for this young woman, and what she is teaching this old woman. ❤❤

Thank you for this!! My anxiety began when Covid happened. It shattered my false perception of control. I've dealt with control issues because my childhood was so chaotic and I had no control over it so as I became an adult, I hyper focused on it. I deal with health anxiety and fear of death so bad, I have barricaded myself in my house. Afraid to drive, afraid to go to the store or do regular daily activities. I've become so afraid of death, that I'm not living. I pray to God and surrender to him, but am wondering if im really surrendering because I'm still afraid. I work to give it all to God and know that He is always with me. I don't wanna die before I fulfill my purpose, but don't know what my purpose really is so there's that.

I told God that I want to be free from anxiety because I am tired of fearing of the unknown. This video is so timely manner because what I fear are things that are God’s control, not mine. Thank you for sharing this. God is the God of all-knowing and I will trust Him in that!

“Love is what God likes” yes, yes it is. 😅 I feel this discussion so much

Jackie is me honestly with the social anxiety. Thank you. You're making me think deeper about this.

I've dealt with social anxiety and like you I was alone a lot as a child, but you're self awareness, i'm just like wow. I will start praying before every time I go out to be more loving opposed to be being self focused. Love you God bless y'all !!!

Am I the only one who sees the femininity and beauty in Jackie! She has gracefully positioned herself for the heart of the father and her beauty is ever growing!! Praise Him!

I think my anxiety stems from lack of trust that God is in control of whatever has me anxious and that He'll handle it in a way I can trust. Basically stems down to the fact that I don't know nor trust God enough, that I'm not in control, that I have to stop being my own God, that I trust my control more than God's control. Love how Preston said "If the God of the universe is on the boat with you resting, why aren't you resting? If He's with you, why are you concerned?" and "If God is here and He's resting, we should be resting just like Him." and "If God is with us, why are we afraid?". Great points and questions!

She’s has a gift of teaching . They both are equally yoke together. Glory to God.

For someone that has been crippled by social anxiety for yrs… coming into the knowing of God, i have realized it’s a trauma response from childhood isolation, bullying and rejection. This ties closely with idolizing people over God Himself. As in, I can highly rate someone now but with that comes anticipating rejection as a response from my childhood dayss.. which triggers my anxiety in social settings. So like, overall it’s hard to be open because of how my anxieties manifest in my muddled speech n thoughts. Also what makes it extremely hard is that i tend to attract attention with my looks. I am beautiful so ppl associate that with extroversion and just… outpouring comfort n relentless joy… n that is HARD because I’m quite the opposite n deep down I’m just tryna survive ME. So when ppl get to know me… i tend to see the distaste alot because i am not what i look like or expect which makes me feel rejected… n then the loop of anxiety resurfaces over n over n over. I dont know. God is teaching me alot tho

This hits home. I'm an only child, and I can completely relate to Jackie. The misunderstanding of being viewed as mean is real. And God does have a sense of humor. I'm a pastor and married to an extreme extrovert! 🤦🏾‍♀

Our level of anxiety is directly proportional to how much access to God we perceive and how much authority we believe He has. If we think God is near and able. Then our anxiety levels decrease.

Listen , that last 5 minutes had me tearing up in the grocery store - dope observation on David and Goliath

I’m so glad that you both exist, and how God is glorified through your union. Thank you, and thank God.

I have been fearing death for the past few weeks, which is weird for me. I have been going to funerals since I was 3 years old and have lost so many people in the past 20 years, that I didn't fear death. As of late, that is not the case, so much so that I had a panic attack about 2 weeks ago, I had never experienced that in my life until that day. It was so bad I thought I was going to die in that moment which made me tweak even more. Since that day I have had trouble sleeping at night. I would close my eyes for maybe a hour or two and then I'd jump up in a panic. My heart would be racing and I'd feel like I'm going to faint- my first thought would be I'm going to die. I know the LORD is using you guys, I can't express to you how On Time this video is. I truly needed this video and I'm not even all the way through yet, I got a word in the first 15min. I'm going to finish now but thank you so much for this video. How can I fully submit this issue to God without taking it back??? What does that Look like???

When I tell you this confirmed so much of what God has been teaching me in this season. My mind is blown

As a fellow social anxiety haver and small-talk disliker I needed this🙏🏾💯

The way that God has used you to speak to me is something that I cannot grasp. I literally was telling myself this morning that I shouldn’t worry about anything because God has my back and then boom I click on your video. Praise be to God he is amazing in all His ways, and God bless you the Perry family He truly is using you❤

This really blessed me. This was such a Rich conversation. I appreciate both of you and your vulnerability. I struggle with anxiety and I recently started having panic attacks because of fear of death. I know some indicators of why but I’m sure there’s more to it. it also happened to me after I got married. This really gave me something to think about. It also blessed me because it helps me know I’m not alone and experiencing these feelings. I’m excited for God to reveal to me and give me insight on the root of these causes of anxiety. Sorry I know I’m typing a lot lol. I also relate to you guys because my husband is more on the introverted side and I am more on the extrovert side. I love how you said that God does that on purpose, I never really viewed it like that. That definitely speaks to his sovereignty as well. God bless you both and your ministry for the Lord. Love and appreciate you guys.♥️♥️♥️

Jackie and her Tongues are Priceless🤩

As another logical thinking Christian, thank you for the perspective. Very timely

Before I surrendered to Jesus I was in a constant state of fear. But the scriptures...so many scriptures that secure us in His love and letting us know there is no fear in love and perfect love casts out fear. Amen!

Y’all have fun even with the ecstatic utterances from the Spirit. I’m here for it 🔥 Good word

This Podcast literally got me screaming and crying.... And I started saying to myself "I don't know Him! I don't know Him!"..... It's funny how that we've had crazy and great experiences with the Lord but easily forget His personality at the face of issues or pressures. May we receive Grace to be aware of His person daily at the face of every situation 🙏 Thank you Jackie and Preston, God bless you.

I relate to both of your anxious points sadly. My anxiety disorder has recently given me panic attacks about death by suffocation (too little time to explain but basically anxiety makes me short of breath and my brain tells me I’m going to die lol) so I would randomly get panic attacks. But I also am very socially awkward because I’ve always been judged negatively for my hobbies and personality as a kid by family. But I’m making a practice of trusting God despite both of these annoyances 😂

Thank you for this!!! You spoke directly to me.

We have to understand that we have power and our words are powerful. Society has normalized claiming anxiety. That’s a spiritual attack that’s meant to destroy, God comes so that we can have life, abundantly. Even claiming anxiety is the opposition of Gods word !!

wow! each episode blows me away!

Thank you guys so much for talking about this I definitely needed this ❤

This was a great conversation. Thank you so much

It’s crazy how we lived different lives but what Preston went through im going through right now. Wild! This has been Very helpful

This was sooooo good! Thank you for sharing!

This was so refreshing for my soul.

Needed this today. God bless you both so very much

I’m praying for this! Love y’all’s story!

Love this. Thanks so much guys. On time

I see so much of my personality in Jackie, I can relate sm 😭😭😭 l really don't like people in my space except I feel safe with you. God help me on this one

This episode is right on time

This convo is crazy TRUTH!

Wow this helped me a lot. Thank you guys for such a perfect timing

I am really blessed by this. Bless you both

Thank y’all for being so transparent ❤️🙏🏾 blessings to you & your family.

All of this is a good word and very encouraging!

So good; another GREAT discussion between the Perry’s

I sincerely Love this family, may ya'll continue to be a huge blessing to all ! So needed.

I can’t tell you how much this has helped me.

I really appreciate this topic so much, gave me so much peace & perspective 🤍

Very pleasant conversation. Thanks

yet another one of yalls videos that did great adding to my testimony ❤

I’m grateful for the Perry’s transparency and willingness to break things down

I love this subject! The attitude shows people that I don't want to be bothered, and it becomes normal...lol I just feel anxious around people I don't know and in crowds. I have to read people and I feel vibes from people.

love you so much Thank you, you always put the right words on unexpressed things and feelings... Thank you❤

Man this was soooo good! Very encouraged.👏🏽

Do not be afraid because I am with you! Epic episode. Thanks guys for the great insight.

This is a powerful conversation !! Love this ! Put a lot of perspective for me ❤️ Bless you !

My favorite episode from y’all so far ! I’ve watched it several times and each time I learn something new.

Ty ty God bless y'all for all your doing, including the editors and camera men/women💕💕💕💕

Appreciate how open you both are. I pray that you both overcome anxiety and fully know the fullness of life that you have

Thank you Thank you Thank you!

Super blessed and super Transparent!!!

Yay, a new upload!! Very much enjoying and benefiting from your talks from South Korea. Thank you.

I struggle with both of these issues. I loved this. Thank you for your insight!

Yes, Jackie! I’m the same! I KNEW it had to be a trauma response! Thank you!

This was a very good word. Thank you, I love your videos. I watch them when I keep the sabbath. I Feel blessed every time.

So so good!

Lovinggggg the episodes! 👏🏾

As someone who has been struggling with fear of death and anxiety since a little girl…. I felt this video with everything in me. God bless you both! ❤️