Most Misunderstood Chapter in ASOIAF - ADWD Daenerys X - Song of Ice and Fire - A Game of Thrones 

omfg Tim so innocently saying ‘he usually says something by now’ and during it i was like ‘Tim how do you not notice that you haven’t been interrupted yet?’ 😆 and i say that with no malice toward David! I have the form of neurospicy that also makes me want to immediately say what i’m thinking! I just have the Tim version of neurospicy that never interrupts! Happy name-day, David. Ride the spiral to the end 🌀

i’ll be 45 this year and get consistently told i look like i’m 28 or early 30’s. The water from the hose, anxiety from parental neglect, and euphoria from late 90’s Mtv, and not being a hater keeps us youthful and relevant i stg.

Dany weaving the hat is like the Weirwood Goddess weaving the web or tapestry of fate within the greensea. The net is currently weaved by AA and Dany needs to unweave it with her cleansing fire so to speak. Dragons don't plant trees they burn them and Dany needs to burn the Weirwoods so something new can grow in its place. Perhaps Dany can't do the weaving or knitting people together because that's what Jon does. They need to work together to destroy the old net and weave the new one, so to speak.

Happy birthday, David!! And thanks for a great stream as always, David and Tim!

Rolling down the street praising Garth and chilling with Tim and Dave *laid back*! With my mind in the Weirwood and Weirwood in my mind! Happy Birthday LML!

Dang I missed the LIVE stream… No matter ready to kick off this almost four hour rewatch! 🎉 …pre-thanks for another great vid! & a very merry birthday to you @David Lightbringer! & many h as pot returns of the day! 🎉🎉🎉

Just occurred to me: Dany is always searching for “home”. She’s driven by a deep desire for it. She thinks that Drogon returns to Dragonstone on instinct, but she says that’s not her home. But it actually is….She was literally born there, on a stormy night, as I recall. It was her home for sometime before the whole overthrow. And yet, she doesn’t consider it “home”. I think GRRM is exploring the concept of “home”. How we feel about it, what is given to us and influences how we feel about it, how it changes over age and time. The things we treasure and value about “Home”. Dany is collecting these people who need her deeply and she wants to provide a safe home for them. Reflecting her own unconscious need. She’s wanting to get to the Red Keep and the throne, but that isn’t her home. A clue that it will not be her final destination. It will be interesting to see how GRRM continues to explore “HOME” as a concept with Dany. As she goes North, will she feel the plight of the others and the wights as another set of peoples who have had their home corrupted and are wandering/lost in search of someone who can help them regain their Weirwood home? Her history tells us that she may very well feel this and decide to move sacrificially with them as she’s done on her previous encounters with people. Also, by the end do you think that Dany will discover “home” is a more esoteric concept of being in the midst of where you feel belonging and loved - and that may not be the Iron Throne for her.

A blessed stream. Happy birthday for tomorrow David!

Happy Birthday David🎂🍻. Fab stream! Thanks

I think the mountains blowing in the wind like leaves would be the dragons obliterating the pyramids of Merreen

Always go back to the beginning. Remember Dany washing herself in that hot pool. Nothing burns like the cold. And the dress she was afraid of that felt like water in her hand? CS Lewis used pools of water as entry points to different worlds in a book. Stargate, etc etc too. Maybe that’s how she enters the Weirwood Net.

I’m late but yes….malnutrition, stress, sickness can throw off monthly cycle.

Another great stream as always! Thank you gentlemen, and happy birthday Monsieur Lightbringer!! 🎉

Happy birthday David. I found while you done this stream that a Gealic river goddess went to the well of knowledge it is surrounded by 9 magic hazel trees. the part before the ants reminded me of that.

Happy birthday David! I'm so very glad I found this channel, your content has kept my love for this series alive.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY DAVID

The fact that she has Blisters on her hands doesn't mean that she got burned. Blisters do not happen just from burning. Blisters happen due to friction too... Yes technically its due to heat of friction but it's not heat if fire. She only has it on her hands, perhaps hee thighs. No nowhere else. That suggest Calises like blisters - not fire blisters. One could take it that she is being Reinforced to be steonger. And it makes sense she has these blisters. She doesn't have a Dragon saddle. If I recall, she had akin issues when she rode her horse for the first time for a while.

Missed this stream but settling in now for an evening listen. David knows The Real Daenerys.

4 hours may seem like a long time, but honestly I could listen to you guys for double that. Thanks for the great video and Happy Nameday, LML!!

Happy birthday! 🎉 ETA- I wonder if, when Dany meets Jon, she'll at some point tie bells into his hair? She'd be sharing her adopted culture, and he'd check off one more box on the Azor checklist.

Happy name day, Dave! Love the channel and starry wisdom Sundays so much. Especially the Tim and Dave dynamic duo! I'm only 30 mins in so far but can tell this is going to be a wild & wonderful stream, as always!

I feel proud to be here for something as auspicious as this. Happy B day to ya! And thanks

te significance of the straw hat: "don't judge a fish by its ability to ride a bicycle". so don't judge a dragon queen by her ability to make a hat. Dany is hard on herself for reasons that have nothing to do with who she really is. She expects that she should be good at everything. It's a mandala. Meereen will unravel. she must let it go. How many hats? how many cities has she tried to save?

I happened to see some applewood smoked bacon in my fridge. This got me thinking I wonder what Weirwood smoked bacon would taste like? Do you think it would be good. These are the questions that need answers

10:49 damn 11min in and Tim is spitting fire right away

Happy Birthday David LmL 🎉☕️🎉🎂🎉 i really luved this stream as i was listening to it last night one of my favourite's of Danny's many foreshadowing so thanks to both yourself an our good friend Grey Waist Tim the dynamic Duo of ❄️🔥🐲🖤❤️

Ive tried watching this several times now, having a newborn in our family with a toddlsr already is rough. That being said, i resorted to listening while sleeping. The hype i started feeling around 2:04:30 made me wake up and listen

Happy birthday 🎂

I think her sickness could symbolize the sickness of entitlement for throne, the sickness of monarchy has on the land--that's why she has the vision of her brother, it's that sickness that caused the war of the 5 kings. Her body covered in red whelps parallels the vision she had in the house of the undying with the woman being ravaged by dwarfs. We can see her coming to westeros when Fageon is king defeating him and not being accepted by the realm. It George's theme of a single ruler/monarchy not being good for the people. Even though we like Dany we know democracy is better than monarchy. And he conquest of the realm could leave it worse than it was

Happy Birthday to you! And me! 😂 I hope it's a great one. I'll be 42, the meaning of life and everything. So long and thanks for all the fish! 🐬

"You are the blood of the dragon, you can make a hat." is my biggest 'lol' line in the canon. No hidden depths - I imagine the line popped into GRRM's head when he was drafting 'blood of the dragon' ideas, and 15 years later as he closed his 5th volume thought', Damn, I still haven't found a place for that daft line - I'll shoehorn it in here!'

you 2 are incredible at this thanks for keeping it up. I've met strangers (now friends) through y'all (after I bring up that I'm a fan of ASOIAF and always on RU-vid).

With Dany being a Nissa Nissa character in the Greensea, the hat reference makes me think of the mermaids that wear Nenymoans in their hair The only other thing that comes to mind would be Sansa’s hair net with Amethysts in it, with Dany representing the Amethyst Empress as well Not sure what to make of it all tho? Praise Garth 💀💨

41:30 Daenerys: pause that video game and clean up your room! Drogon: you can't pause an online multiplayer game mom ugh!

Lyrics of "Whispering Grass (Don't Tell The Trees)", first recorded in 1940 but made famous in a 1975 cover version: Why do you whisper, green grass Why tell the tress what ain't so Whispering grass, the trees don't have to know, no, no Why tell them all your secrets Who kissed there long ago Whispering grass, the trees don't need to know Don't you tell it to the trees She will tell the birds and bees And everyone will know Because you told the blabbering trees Yes, you told them once before It's no secret anymore Why tell them all the old things They're buried under the snow Whispering grass, don't tell the trees 'Cause the trees don't need to know Now, don't you tell it to the trees 'Cause they'll just run 'n' tell the birds and bees Then everybody'd know 'Cause you told them doggone trees Yes you did, you know you did, ya told 'em once before Now look atcha', honey child, it ain't no secret no mo' You might also like Why tell them all the old things They're buried under the snow Whispering grass, don't tell the trees 'Cause the trees don't need to know From Wikipedia (note the last line): "Whispering Grass (Don't Tell the Trees)" is a popular song written by Fred Fisher and his daughter Doris Fisher. The song was first recorded by Erskine Hawkins & His Orchestra in 1940. The Ink Spots featuring Bill Kenny also recorded it the same year... Whispering Grass" was a 1975 UK number-one single by Windsor Davies and Don Estelle. Davies and Estelle were actors in the sitcom It Ain't Half Hot Mum. It was number one in the UK Singles Chart for three weeks from 7 June 1975. The notion of Whispering Grass extends back to Greek mythology, notably the myth of Midas."

Thank you for another awesome video. Appreciate it guys. Happy belated Birthday David.

Happy birthday!!

On Danny wanting to plant trees and a garden… there is a very real possibility of mass starvation in Westeros. I think Danny should trust her instincts and dragon dreams, even if they are as simple as planting a garden everywhere she stays

Happy birthday, David! Keep up the good work! 🎉🎉🎉

Happy Birthday. Thanks for the years of great work.

I was pretty Garthclarted during the stream last night so didnt realise it was your birthday Dave! Happy birthday for yesterday man hope you had a great day, thanks for the excellent stream as ever

Such a great spot by Tim on that Skunk Cabbage!!!!

1:47:13 a wall for Ants = a barrier against Ents (as in tree people) = a wall to devide something from the weirwoods and/or the others

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, DAVID ❤❤❤❤ I hope your day is as amazing as you 🥳

I love the house of flying dragons background you have for your channel page. I don’t know how long I’ve overlooked that 😂

"Cleaning the taint"? 😮 . . . well, hygiene IS important 🤣

If they would've made Missandei the age she is in the books and then had Cersei have her killed on the wall like that. Dany burning down the whole place would've made more sense.

Damn missed the live! Excited to listen to this now though 👍

Happy late Birthday David, another excellent video thank you

Happy birthday Dave! 🎂 Hope you did it big! You deserve it. 🎉

Firstly Happy Name Day my Lord and Secondly I think it was Mandy on a Gray Area stream said something about "when the mountains blow in the wind like leaves...." is talking about snow drifts beyond the wall when they go North! I can't remember the rest but it was cool

I think the dragonbinder horns are a very simple mechanic, they bind a person to a dragon by killing the person and transferring their "soul" into the dragon. Dany did this in the pyre without a horn, by using blood magic to transfer the witch, drogo and her unborn child into the dragons. When Euron forces someone to blow the horn, that person will be killed and their soul will be forced into the dragon as the "third head" of the dragon. This functions the same way as the crows who hold the spirits of the children. Once bran enters a crow that has been binded to one fo the children, they share the space. This is skinchanging, and the same rules would apply. A dog is easy to skinchange for a human, a dragon is easy for a targeryan. So, to sort of lay it out. A human worgs something and they share a body with both influencing the other and sharing a bond. The longer a human worgs a creature the more they get lost becoming more and more like that creature and less like a human. If they die they can skinchange into that creature permanently, unless someone else comes along and forces their will onto the creature at which point the previous human worg is killed a second time. A Targeryan can bond with a dragon with the same ease as a stark can bond a dire wolf, its natural and inborn. However, my contention is that whatever magic happened at the funeral pyre allowed Dany to bond humans to dragon eggs in order for them to hatch. The horn may have been a way of kickstarting this process, allowing people to be bonded to dragons and this was done ON valyrians by the emporer using the dragonbinder horn. This would have been so the emporer could control the dragons, however once a Valyrian is merged with a dragon a part of that dragon remembers its Valyrian life which then makes them have a natural bond the same way dogs have to humans (this part is just extra thoughts and guesses). So over time the dragons became naturally alligned with Valyrians because of their natural bond and a dragonbinder horn wasn't needed. The dragonbinder horn and the funeral pyre blood magic are the same thing by a different means, fire and blood magic that bind a soul to a dragon, and Dany entering the pyre made her the focal point that completes the magic. If I am right, Euron using the horn will bind a new soul over the dragons current one, and he will be the Dany role in this, and by binding the dragon and the horn blower together will gain control over them. However it will not be as simple as having a horn blown, it takes proximity and then Euron will have to "walk into the flames" the same way dany did to complete the ritual, IF it works that way. This extra step is needed purely because a dragon is far different from a dog or a wolf, which the story tells us are easy to worg into for humans. A Valyiran might be able to naturally worg a dragon but, what we see dany do at the pyre is different, not just bonding to dragons but birthing them from stone. What Euron is going to attempt to do may also be a some version of this, with Danys pyre being the most ancient version and the horn being a more refined version that was developed over time. What we see in house of the dragon is Daemon hand over his eggs to the experts, and we don't know what they do before giving those eggs to newborn Targs to be bonded with. Perhaps there is a secret in dragonstone that answers this, one that was lost, stolen, or destroyed. Maybe Euron was able to discover this secret by visiting Valyria or Ashai. So yeah, I think the dragonhorn binds is a ritual the same as the pyre, and that is how Euron plans to take control, this would make him a fake Valyrian, bonded to dragons not by his blood, but by the blood of the person who blows the horn in his name.

Happy birthday! Thank you for the chapter re-read!

Thanks for an outstanding stream! Bummed I had to leave early. Happy birthday!

I just heard Nina Simon's song "strange fruit" for the first time yesterday. It's about men of color being hanged but also their blood being on the leaves of the tree. If you haven't heard it before definitely check it out. It did make me cry though. It's one of those turning pain and loss into this meaningful art things.

I am becoming more amenable to Michael’s (the one who talks about stuff) idea that rideable dragons are infused with human souls through blood magic. 36:22

Happy Birthday Dude !! Stay happy

islands in the sea, that is what we are, no one in between, how can we be wrong? Sail away with me To another world And we rely on each other ah ha

Happy Birthday Dave!!

just catching up after my holiday (at an undisclosed location without wifi) and a very happy bday to you my friend🎉🎉❤❤

Severe diahorrea & malnutrition can be quite trippy, as can be stranding in the middle of nowhere. I speak from personal experience. Trippy

Thanks you lovely men! Great topic. Happy happy 🎉

Happy birthday David 🎉🎉🎉

Happy Birthday David! Watching at work! Have a lovely day and have a drink for me!

3:24:00 The mountains blowing in the wind like the leaves could reference the pyramids of Meereen burning due to dragonfire after Rhaegal and Viserion are freed, and their ashes blowing in the wind.

Arh, happy birthday, mate. Have a good one. Dont smoke too much, ay 😉

Happy happy BIRTHDAY!!! Pisces ♓️ SEAson!! Enjoy!! From one chronic interrupter to another. 😂

Happy Nameday Tim! 👍

Amazing video!! As always.

Mountain falling 3:22:59 off the ledge/parapet/tower

Thanks!

Definitely has desintarcy. Inflammation of the intestines accompanied by bloody diarrhea. Dysentery is most often caused by shigella bacteria (shigellosis) or an amoeba. Dysentery is often spread through contaminated food or water. A key symptom is bloody diarrhea. There may also be abdominal pain, cramps, fever, and malaise. Prompt medical care is needed for bloody diarrhea. Treatment may include increased fluid intake, rehydration solutions, IV fluids, and antibiotics. None of this alone would signify a miscarriage, however if she’s newly pregnant, the body is under much stress that it will eliminate any extra energy expenditure to save her life. Our bodies are remarkably. It’s amazing we’re alive today!

NWH! Fear of a black hat! I spit out my drink laughing! So funny! 😂😂😂❤

Thanks Lads , another good one, cheers

I would imagine the Valyrians may have used the horns to strip dragon riding families of their dragons, or perhaps to claim dragons that had lost their riders but were outside of their lineage. Perhaps it was a version of marriage pacts in Valyria. Maybe sometimes instead of marriage pacts families would bind dragons to other families as a type of “marriage pact”.

Perfect beginning 12 seconds start to a video🕺🏻

Happy birthday! ✨️

Another great stream, love all the layers in this dany chapter oh yeah happy birthday @david lightbringer

If Euron binds a dragon to his bloodline or blood relations he might be giving a dragon to some fun characters like Theon or Yasha. ❤

I JUST FIGURED OUT WHO QUAITHE IS! She's Mufasa.

Eating Wendy’s chili hungover watching Tim sing gave me a good chuckle

If Dany is not barren: You said the trigger for the Others coming was a broken contract - some child was not given. Could a 'bittersweet' ending be Dant having to give up a baby in order to send the Others back (presumably a baby made with her nephew!!)?

As an alcoholic I saw this as painful withdrawal.

Oop, I plagiarized Tim on Discord and didn’t realize it, lol. (Good time/long time!) I feel for Dany because she doesn’t know that she’s (probably) not going to be around to see the benefits of planting those trees. She just knows she needs to take care of her people, so chafing against what’s expected of “the dragon” vs what she wants to do is inevitable.

Happy Birthday!!

Mountains blowing in the wind like leaves: From a POV, the darkness and at a distance, dragons could be mistaken for mountains. Sun rising in the west and setting in the east: From a POV, in darkness and at a distance, it could look like that if someone has Lightbringer, coming from west to east.

Happy name day ^^ Here's to acting not a day over ten and two ;3

Maybe Dany will visit the Isle of Faces with the OG green Weirwoods before she ever sees the corrupted ones everyone else is familiar with..

Grateful Dead lyric of the week: "The sky was yellow And the sun was blue." ♥️

Happy birthday from South Korea! I’m an old too😂

Happy Birthday!

David, I have to say, you are a genius and have spent a long time thinking and learning about a difficult subject through a single subject matter. That said, you sound so abrasive when you feel questioned. Dysentery and Cholera were diseases (or infections, or anything that makes us ill) were problems that faced humans wherever they were and whenever we were ill. Please don't take this badly, but relax a little, some things some people take for granted are well known on the opposite side of the world. I love your content and will give before as I have again. Much love x

Happy birthday! ❤

Happy birthday dude 🎉

Tim's cat has a flehmen response at 26:30. Not sure how I caught that...

the line abt "the sun gilding dragonstone as night comes" makes me think of drogo gilding viserys. uve said gold as a fire of the gods symbol can be firey/molten or frozen/solid. so gilding an AA character shows the transformation in one action: being set ablaze with the fire of the weirwoods, and then as the gold freezes viserys becomes the crowned, frozen, dead night's king just as the sun sets

Happy birthday!

happy birthday 🥳🥳🥳

I'd love to hear you talk about Elden Ring with someone like Smoughtown! A girl can dream, really enjoy your videos David.

Great stream!