Most Powerful Circular Saw? Dyno'ing DeWALT, XGT, Hilti, Ridgid & More 

Amen

Gas is pretty easy, engines already rated in HP can convert to watts. Cordless, we've found their drive shaft outputs are each pretty unique and hard to adapt to a motor so far

​@@TorqueTestChannelwhy not just use a chain drive? Just cut the end off a bar and mount the motor to it with a sprocket.

@@ionstorm66 Are there any chainsaw chains that fit correct that dont have teeth? We'd rather keep most of our arms in testing

@@TorqueTestChannel chainsaw+bench grinder= teeth go bye bye

@@TorqueTestChannelinstall a bike sprocket where the chain drive attaches and use a bike chain, you can mount the chain saw to a jig to keep tension on it

Nope, Hercules for the win

I'm all Makita, especially for saws. I use Makita saws for their smoothness and quality. I'm sure the other XGT saws will be plenty powerful, and I'd bet much smoother than the others.

@@luisprieto4589 I am pretty happy with Makita too, the XGT saws are unfortunatly not that light anymore. And I do not use Makita for chainsaws.

@@petermuller3995 I personally don't have a chainsaw, but if I did I wouldn't buy Makita for that. I actually like a little bit of weight on my rear handle saw. For me, less vibration is the most important thing in a saw and Makita is the best there.

track saw?

It'll just take a hit in scoring for the cost of batteries.

@@proscriptus Those flexvolt batteries are pricey, but Dewalt often has sales going on. Example, I got the 578 model with 2, 9 ah batteries and a 380 reciprocating saw for $450.

@@UncleIvan1 Correct, DCS520.

@@proscriptus In addition to what the other commenter stated, the 60v batteries are comparable to other high voltage batteries, and are able to be used for other applications like weedeaters. Not to mention they're cross compatible with your 20v tools, so they provide a lot more value when examined as an eco system.

don't underestimate the 36V Metabo HPT rear-handle

If you checked his chart of upcoming tests it's on there. this is just Round 1.

@@rossb5593 excited to see what it does compared to others. I do know from personal experience it's a beast though

I have the non-flexvolt XR and it sucks, wish i paid a little more for the 60v capability

​@@justinhartsell4418Fully agree. I have owned it for 2 years and still going strong.

Yeah. For cross cutting small battery is fine. For ripping 5 AH makes a difference.

I think we get that one in North America as the GKS18V-25CN

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@@gtimbraWe're putting a list together of saws recommended to us during these videos and we'll be doing the bulk of those too. Will add Bosch

@@TorqueTestChannel The track compatible version GKS18V-25GCN is supposed to be somewhat more powerful than the standard Bosch saw.

4thewin tested a whole bunch of 7 1/4 saws pretty thoroughly. The Bosch should be similar to the Dewalt tested in this vid. Makita XGT, Dewalt DCS 577 and the Flex should be the most powerful.

Yes seconded

Oh most definitely, you have a point. We work on the automotive side of things, and really its just about less annoyance, wear and tear on your body. If I can have an impact do something in 2 seconds rather than listening to it for 10, it adds up at the end of the day in my general fatigue working with power tools.

20V Milwaukee?

m18 is 20v max@@henrymahoney7072

I thought about this as well. They all use the same or similar cells across their product lineups so it would be hard to match like that. Ah to Ah testing would be a good measure though. Runtime and peak output

yea I imagine it wouldn't be the easiest thing to do. Although he could restrict the tests to tier/Ah ide love to see just how each brand stacks up against eachother. The price of some tools are easier to swallow when you have already choked on the initial BatRay cost. @@D3M3NT3Dstrang3r

So as much as it sounds good, Flex and Milwaukee will be at a close 1 and 2 and as messed up as it is by the cost to performance metric they use Kobalt and a couple others will be way up there. However Chervon which is Flex, Kobalt, Skil, Ego and a few others or TTI which is Milwaukee, Ridgid, Ryobi, are the best parent companies. So go with Chervon or TTI and be happy with a good warranty and good tools for the price. Hilti would be way up there but they aren't really a fair competitor for most brands and the price point just breaks most people on them. Hilti is for big companies with big budgets cause they do have the absolute best warranty in the tool game. Flex was doing 20 years which was just as good but I think they've stopped it.

@@mattadams7922 Or go with a brand who's parent company isn't headquartered in China. Just a suggestion.

​@@joshuaking34Such as:

Me too

I'm with you on that. That saw is a monster, especially with a 9Ah FV battery. FlexVolt to rule them all!

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Need blade right

Here is the new Skil right blade cordless. Looks like a really nice saw, but some reports of battery failures. SKIL PWR CORE 20 XP Brushless 20V 7-1/4 In. Circular Saw, Tool Only- CR5440B-00@@TorqueTestChannel

I'm not surprised at all. It's makita, they make brilliant saws.

I’ve always liked Makita and Hilti due to their independent ways.. and always admired Hilti’s heavy, industrial tools.. their 18v stuff has seemed pretty underwhelming, though.

"Direct comparison" assumes a battery adapter has no losses which is a big assumption I think. Will look into that

​@@TorqueTestChannelThose battery adapters are garbage.

Can't use most newer batteries and/or tools with adapters because of the missing communication

that would be pointless since they all use basically the same cells, excluding some lipo packs and ofc upcoming packs with tabless 21700's

​@@TorqueTestChanneloff the top of my head, there's the 3D printer guy you collaborated with to make " the Beans" Makita battery. Couldn't you adapt all 18v battery to the same custom ridiculously overbuilt connector. So all batteries end up run through an adapter made by the same guy. It's not the exact same adapter granted, but the advantage being you get an idea of how each battery cells and connector style impacts performance? Or if you got the coin, you could cut off the base of multiple broken tools, solder that to your own custom connector and test max wattage? Idk if it's even worth it, but it would be interesting

They make left blade direct drive that are shaped like worm drive.

Both left and right saws, are easy to operate, and the myths going around about a Worm Drive saw being "so much easier" are really not true at all. I have a Makita 1990's Worm Drive (hypoid) drive saw that is so heavy and unbalanced, and it makes great cuts because it's so heavy, but it only turns 4,400 rpms which is way too low for building fine furniture or cutting nice finished laminated woods. A right blade saw, you don't get any dust blowing back in your face. This is the major benefit to holding a right blade saw, in your right hand. You can still do all the same stuff, but the sawdust shoots away from you, instead of back in your face. The left blade Worm Drive saws are ideal for framers who enjoy sawdust in their face (many men seem to love being covered in fine dust and chemicals). But a right blade saw, used with a long straight edge, will have a much higher blade RPM (5,500 to 6,000 rpm) and will produce a better cut, with no sawdust getting in your face. A Worm Drive saw has no dust ejection port, and they create a huge cloud of sawdust that goes straight back into your face.

Some rear handles will shoot dust at your stomach, never seen one shoot at your face. Some of them shoot the dust to the right like the makita

It is a beast

I just wish their impact drivers and wrenches had a little more power.

I just wish for the loot you drop they would be that much better. Pay twice as much to get maybe a tenth more. They do have a good warranty though. Hilti the other big red, for big companies with even bigger budgets.

I'm waiting for then to test the drill

Their warranty and customer service is way above average. I have the 4hd hammer drill/driver, they make a 6hd but the 4hd is plenty of beans I've used it to mix a 5gallon of paint and with the excellent clutch also drive .5" brass screws. Been running cordless drill/drivers since the early 80's (black and decker nicad? Makita 9.6v with a Jacob's chuck?) and am recommending the Nuron line.

“Chungus “ eh? Why you have to get all technical jargon on here

Milwaukees are like that. They stick to the board

To each their own!

That saw is powerful, I am ashamed to say it scares me 😂 but, I want to see some scientific tests show how scary it actually is.

@@JT-lq4yd i have it too; you're not alone - it's a beast. I want to see that scariness quantified, though - I'm going to guess it's about 13 MegaJasons, if i'm doing the SI scariness unit conversion correctly 😂

@@skygreen5939 We will see how close you are, and I hope to see the video soon.

It does! I saw a video from Japan where a guy put the BL4040F on the very first xgt saw (HS001) and it increased the power by 10-20%.

It does! I saw a video from Japan where a guy put the BL4040F on the very first xgt saw (HS001) and it increased the power by 10-20%.

I score a lot of lowes clearance!!! $139 for an XTR 5 piece kit (which also includes the saw in this test) $79 for DeWalt DA auto polisher, $77 for EGO misting fan, $29 Kobalt impact wrenches (I ended up buying 4, a couple in 1/2” and couple in 3/8” and keep one in each car for a quick flat tire change, which I’ve had 3 in the past month with different family members). The lowes clearance deals are insane!!