I have been a drummer most of my life and this has got to be hands down one of the hardest rhythm signatures I have ever tried to tackle. Gavin has 3 different timings going on with the high hat snare and kick drum. Pure genius.
@@DavidFloegelDrums For the hihat it is. :D Kick drum and snare do a 5/8 thing twice, which is extended to a 6/8 figure the 3rd time around. Trickiest thing (for me) is the ghost notes, though (best heard/seen here ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ZuYjGfaixDM.html. 2:00-2:30). And the double bassdrum stuff. Incorporating that into this particular beat, I mean.
@@DavidFloegelDrums Your response reads very confusing. Since I'm not sure, where you're coming from, here's my thoughts: 1) I'm describing the beat you were asking about. If it sounds difficult to you, then it seems you consider it to be difficult. There's no way for me to make it anything more or less than it already is. I can tell you one thing, though. It's a lot more difficult to play than it is to hear, describe or read a description of. 2) It doesn't matter what I or you or Porcupine Tree consider the time to be. Whether or not it's in 4/4 is a) hardly up to discussion, 'cause pretty much anyone can identify a 4/4 when they hear it and b) totally and utterly unrelated to whether or not it is difficult. Most Meshuggah tracks are in 4/4, yet noone would seriously argue that going into detail about the rhythmic groups guitars, bass and drums are playing, would be "making it more difficult than it is". If a figure is in 5/8, saying it's in 5/8 isn't making anything into anything. Either you think odd groups within 4/4 is difficult to hear, play oder understand, or you don't. But me pointing out what it is, doesn't have a say in it. 3) So, yes it's in 4/4, obviously. But it's not "just" 4/4, obviously. Because that would imply something like this ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8ceiFrrHlbI.html
@@puppetofmasters i did actually do a small snippet of that tune somewhere on my channel 🙃 I agree with you on the kick doing a 5/8+5/8+6/8 - I just don't think of it as such. But of course everyone can think of patterns the way it works best for them!
Amazing band. I actually have to thank Mike Portnoy for getting me into PT. He listed Fear of a Blank Planet as one of his favorite albums. I checked it out and got addicted immediately. :D
@Joseph Knecht Oh I love Jordan for his excesses, he's such a crafty embellisher, I'd compare his style to the rococo era decorations (beautiful for the sake of beauty) RB's gleaming sound is coming from another dimension, it's not even beautiful - it's transcendent.
@MrShelo09 It's on the bonus disk of Deadwing, along with So-Called Friend (also on this dvd), Half Light (on the Anesthetize dvd), Revenant, and a rendition of Shesmovdeon from Lightbulb Sun.
agreed, he did say that in an interview with prog radio about fear of a blank planet. it sounds silly but to compare an act to something else (even something good) does take away its originality. Many athletes also feel this sentiment.
Mr. and Mr. Toolmusicians, you should not worry, having Mr. Carey keeping things in (calculated dis-)order in your camp. And knowing Gavin is now in KC (saw him twice with both bands) I recall having heard Danny doing Red with KC. Love Tool as well, keep it up!
