everyone is shocked at how poorly these things handle a crash....well thing is most crashes are not into gigantic cinder block...most accidents are other vehicles where the bus massive size and weight is going to win, except for the driver who sometimes sits very low...most passengers sits high, so that a typical suv center mass would hit below the floor in the bus...passenger lives......hitting a tree will likely pin or kill the driver...but passengers would likely live....
@@owenbelezos8369 And even then. The bus or truck is a moveable object, lessening the severety of the crash. Where as here the wall doesn’t move at all.
@@cinnamorolI. probably, i recall a school bus crash when i was a kid, and it rolled. only 1 fatality as the kid was stuck in a window to wich the bus rolled on to...parents all told kids to sit in the isle seat after that..............its rare to see bus accidents, where i lived in denmark we had two nasty bush crashes in a notorious underpass....when driver ignored the max height signs, people lost their heads...litterally
It's not a greyhound bus, the manufacturer is "MCI" Motor Coach Industries, Ltd. - Canadian manufacturing facility, located in Winnipeg, Manitoba. Greyhound is a company that uses MCI buses.
2022 will look like this too I bet. There is no crumple zone and honestly there does not need to be one. This is a very hypothetical crash test to see what would happen. But that will never happen on the road.
Don't forget, this is a crash with a stationary, immobile solid object. Most crashes will be with other vehicles, typically vehicles much smaller than the bus. Therefore, in most crashes, the bus will suffer comparably minor damage.
Since school buses are built on an off-the-shelf truck frame I'd wondered what the frames were like on these... but I guess they don't really have a frame?
@@gsm19911 the J models were a new design, made cheaply, but for the price maybe a good value, give me D anyday over J, if you want looks the J looks more modern.
@@rogerbrandt6678I understand that. I started out on A3’s and C3’s. The D was newer but we had a few J’s that the seasoned drivers drove (this was back in 2011). I always preferred the older models over the “cheap feeling J’s. We even had a E model which always was broken. I was just curious if the J models held up better in a crash as the construction of the bus shell was totally different than the D and prior models.
I drive motor coach buses part time. Have been for 13 years. This is a D model made from MCI. The basic structure has been the same from MCI since the 1960’s. A 1988 drivers area of 102A3 is nearly the same as say a 2018 MCI D model as well as the guts of the bus. The discontinued E model and current J model use a different type of construction. A system of stainless steel square tubes with fiberglass exterior skin. They “feel” quite flimsy compared to the D and older models which has a mixture of different metals on the exterior. Prevost’s don’t do well in crashes either, maybe even worse. Regardless they are ALL terrible in a front end collision or roll over . I think about it every time I’m driving and always on guard. The highway safety administration should make new laws for crash worthiness of these coaches. They have looked into it but nothing has been put into law like with the strict standards set to school buses back in the 1970’s. All motor coaches are flat front rear engine machines. Full side school buses can be either flat front or conventional. Even a flat front school bus does much better in a crash and is more durable than these heavier motor coaches. There are videos on RU-vid to prove it. It makes me sick because the rare times a coach crashes, there are likely severe injuries or fatalities. Motor coaches are the safest way to travel by road they claim due to a low number of accidents. But when they due crash it’s ugly. A Chevy Tahoe would do much better in the same crash. Likely, new standards for motor coach crash worthiness would impose higher prices to bus companies which would be passed down in the form of passenger fare. But it’s an insurance bus passengers should be willing to pay!
Well, it's huge, so it's hard for it to do better. You've got a small about of surface area that has to take the weight of the entire vehicle. the massive engine and transmission on the back have a lot of kinetic energy. It's pretty much impossible to make a large vehicle like this safer and practical at the same time. There are minor improvements, but overall, it's far too heavy to be done easily, if at all.
Drivers keep a large distance between vehicles for this reason. So, dont be pissed if you see them going the speed limit on the highway. Good drivers never rush. You want to arrive alive
So far the only reasons I’ve been on a motor coach was a charter bus for school field trips. I never get angry that we are going the speed limit simply because I focus on talking to my classmates and playing stuff like slap, mad libs, etc. so much fun lol
