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Mounting battery desulfator and chek on Oscilloscope - 134 

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I have heard and seen a lot about desulfators, But do they work and what do they do? Together with my two cousins, we setup and see how the signal from a desulfator on a Oscilloscope (Rigol DS1052E)
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@riiwind
@riiwind 7 лет назад
Sooooo many things done wrong on this video its comical...... AGM (absorbed glass mat also called starved electrolyte) is a special glass mat designed to wick the battery electrolyte between the battery plates, the plates are saturated with acid to about 95% of what they can hold. They contain only enough liquid to keep the mat wet with electrolyte so if the battery is broken no free liquid is available to leak out this is why the cells look dry but really they are not. +1 for getting stuck tho!
@binarytanzania
@binarytanzania 3 года назад
Please help me learn more. Please give more reference where I can learn more abt these
@giottodiotto1
@giottodiotto1 8 лет назад
Hi Morten, the first two to three cycles i would put the 17 volt overcharge on for around six ours, then measure the time for the discharge wirh your load, as soon as you see it improving i would lower the voltage during the following cycles, this depends on the state of battery ofcourse...
@MyPlayHouse
@MyPlayHouse 8 лет назад
Hi Okay thanks for you input :-) Thank you for watching! :-)
@Fransvanschie
@Fransvanschie 8 лет назад
thanks for testing very cool
@MyPlayHouse
@MyPlayHouse 8 лет назад
Hi +Frans van schie Thank you for watching! :-)
@maliknoir3742
@maliknoir3742 2 года назад
Hello,♥️ thanks for the video. How long does the sulfur removal device for a car battery 75 amp take, 24 hours, 3 days, or a week?? ✅♥️
@MyPlayHouse
@MyPlayHouse 2 года назад
We are closer to 14 days
@ionmarius6652
@ionmarius6652 2 года назад
Hi how much we keep a desulfator conected? Do we have a discharge voltage limit or?
@MyPlayHouse
@MyPlayHouse 2 года назад
use it with a charger,,, and use it like 14 days, and then disconnect for a couple of months.
@davidjames9935
@davidjames9935 8 лет назад
Why would you leave the desulfator connected while you are charging? It seems the spike could damage the charger. Also, to manually desulfate, why not just leave the charger on something high like 2.75V per cell for maybe 15 minutes, then disconnect for 15 minutes, and keep repeating for maybe 8 hours, possibly draining the battery some so it doesn't overcharge.
@MyPlayHouse
@MyPlayHouse 8 лет назад
Hi +David James Well there are so many opinions on how to do this,, and it does not seem to be an exact science. Thank you for watching! :-)
@SimpleEnough2k9
@SimpleEnough2k9 5 лет назад
I guess your power supply didn't like the voltage spike from the desulfator which would perhaps explain why it went off. Knowing what the desulfator does, adding a diode at the output of the power supply would block incoming spikes, although you would need to increase the power supply output to compensate for the diode voltage drop. I'm not too sure how that would go with a charger as I don't know if the charger actually reads the battery voltage. If it does, having a diode in the way may prevent it from charging as it wouldn't be able to do the reading because of the diode. That would potentially explain why some people are using basic chargers and not the intelligent ones when dealing with some type of desulfators.
@MyPlayHouse
@MyPlayHouse 5 лет назад
Hi SimpleEnough2k9 Thank You very much! glad you liked the video :-) Thank you for watching! :-)
@lornekinnee4189
@lornekinnee4189 6 лет назад
Where did you get the desulfator on Mounting battery desulfator and chek on Oscilloscope - 134 let me know if you can. Is it one of the better desulfator?
@MyPlayHouse
@MyPlayHouse 6 лет назад
Hi Lorne kinnee Thank You very much! My cousin build that one. Thank you for watching! :-)
@troubleshooter1975
@troubleshooter1975 Год назад
Part of the equation here is that the battery itself acts like a giant electrolytic capacitor. The desulfator has to have adequate energy capability to overcome that capacitance. A desulfator circuit that can produce a high voltage, but without enough energy, will not produce as big a spike. (ie, a large desulfator that does not have as high a spike, may outperform a smaller one with a bigger spike, when connected to the battery. The smaller one may loose that voltage when connected to the battery, whereas the larger one can retain most of it's voltage spike.) The waveform you took is most representative when taken at the battery posts. At the desulfator, the leads are somewhat isolating it from the batteries' capacitance. If you charge AND desulfate simultaneously, you should have a choke (coil) in one of the charger leads, or else you are ALSO pulsing the charger diodes, perhaps detrimentally. Or probably just driving the charger monitor nuts, on digital chargers... Mr K L
@MyPlayHouse
@MyPlayHouse Год назад
Hi troubleshooter1975 Thank You very much! glad you liked the video :-) Thank you for watching! :-)
@kokopelli314
@kokopelli314 5 лет назад
But, will it reduce top mossing?
@MyPlayHouse
@MyPlayHouse 4 года назад
I do not know.
@giottodiotto1
@giottodiotto1 8 лет назад
best way to rejuvenate a battery: discharge the battery to 11 volts ( under load) disconnect this load ( for a car battery fore xample a 50 watt h4 lamp) wait 5 min to see the battery recover by itself, then recharge is - slow- thus with low amps say 2 ah with a voltage of 17....this will eventualy overcharge the battery above gassing voltage ( 14.4) for a wet or AGM type, leaf this charge on for the night mayby with a desulfator parallel, then repeat the discharging again till 11volts, then repeat, remember charging a battery is really nothhing else than desulvating itself, a GOOD desulfater can inly assist you in the proces, cycling a battery will get the capacity up! assuming there are no other problems with your battery, hope this helps!
@MyPlayHouse
@MyPlayHouse 8 лет назад
Hi How long would you charge the battery with 17Volt ? Thank you for watching! :-)
@juozasuzas
@juozasuzas 6 лет назад
He wrote: about 6 hours - "17 volt overcharge on for around six ours"
@juozasuzas
@juozasuzas 6 лет назад
" cycling a battery will get the capacity up!" I can not agree with that - because every datasheet states limited cycle life. Every cycle reduces battery life.
@TheFlyre
@TheFlyre 6 лет назад
how is that a discharge? is it a discharge when go down to 0 then go back up???? on and off on and off
@MyPlayHouse
@MyPlayHouse 3 года назад
Hi Yeshua The Way Thank You very much! glad you liked the video :-) Thank you for watching! :-)
@cue108
@cue108 7 лет назад
7:46 The English term for the German word "Spule" is NOT 'spule' just with an English pronunciation, but COIL. The desulfator circuit would be a nice plus. Its Probably a 555 timer with a switching MOSFET for the coil and diode thing right?
@MyPlayHouse
@MyPlayHouse 7 лет назад
Hi cue108 Thank You very much! glad you liked the video :-) Thank you for watching! :-)
@waltstorey
@waltstorey 9 лет назад
What you didn't mention in the video is that while you showed the water levels were low all the cells where badly sulphated, what would have been a good idea was to show the cells after de sulphating to show the difference on the plates
@MyPlayHouse
@MyPlayHouse 9 лет назад
HI ***** It´s realy hard to film that,,, and i realy havent had mutch success,,, i now use a battery analyzer Unboxing of automotive battery analyzer - 169 : ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wHTkXj-ggPc.html Thank you for watching! :-)
@ratikantamahapatra8847
@ratikantamahapatra8847 Год назад
Is ita really working?! So ,Why some companies making big machines as the size of refrigerator.....
@MyPlayHouse
@MyPlayHouse Год назад
I do not have any guarantees that it works..
@jonasfunride
@jonasfunride 5 лет назад
Does he sell this desulfator??
@MyPlayHouse
@MyPlayHouse 5 лет назад
Hi Jonas Hedenberg I do not,, but have been thinking about doing something like that.. Thank you for watching! :-)
@Iamsuccesspro
@Iamsuccesspro Год назад
You don't put water into absorbent glass matt
@MyPlayHouse
@MyPlayHouse Год назад
Hi Iamsuccess pro Thank You very much! glad you liked the video :-) Thank you for watching! :-)
@NigguhMake
@NigguhMake 7 лет назад
I'm pretty sure you aren't suppose to put water inside an AGM. Those were most likely safety vents in case of accidental overcharge. Why not research before doing something potentially damaging/dangerous like that?
@MyPlayHouse
@MyPlayHouse 7 лет назад
Hi Mike Scudero What would you put in them,, they do dry up! Thank you for watching! :-)
@NigguhMake
@NigguhMake 7 лет назад
My PlayHouse I believe it's supposed to be dry. The electrolyte is absorbed into the glass mat. Preventing liquid spillage in case the battery were to be dropped or tipped over.
@MyPlayHouse
@MyPlayHouse 7 лет назад
HI Mike Scudero The batteries are not supposed to be serviced, but they are not dry,, they contain a gel to keep them wet. That gel does evaporates over time and the battery deteriorat in capacity. Also why there are "vents" in each cell. So the idear was to vetten the gel again. Thank you for watching! :-)
@iantheinventor8151
@iantheinventor8151 2 года назад
How was the battery afterwards?
@monono954
@monono954 4 года назад
This was a long time ago so you may know now, but AGM does not use water.
@MyPlayHouse
@MyPlayHouse 4 года назад
Hi monono954 Thank You very much! glad you liked the video :-) Thank you for watching! :-)
@grahambate3384
@grahambate3384 6 лет назад
Mayb video how to make one
@MyPlayHouse
@MyPlayHouse 6 лет назад
Hi Graham Bate Thank You very much! glad you liked the video :-) Thank you for watching! :-)
@OuttaSyllabus
@OuttaSyllabus 6 лет назад
Thats a Damped oscillation... Why is that so?
@MyPlayHouse
@MyPlayHouse 6 лет назад
Hi Outta Syllabus I do not understand.. Thank you for watching! :-)
@oldskooldriver9379
@oldskooldriver9379 5 лет назад
lead acid battery plates can act like a capacitor with surface charge, not ion charge, so a dump from an inductor can set up an LC underdamped oscillation
@izzzzzz6
@izzzzzz6 8 месяцев назад
Perhaps put acid in instead of distilled water.
@MyPlayHouse
@MyPlayHouse 7 месяцев назад
Hi @izzzzzz6 Thank You very much! glad you liked the video :-) Thank you for watching! :-)
@Martinko_Pcik
@Martinko_Pcik 2 года назад
Oh, no results ? You think it helped that battery somehow that started in unknown state to get into another unknown state 🙂
@MyPlayHouse
@MyPlayHouse 2 года назад
It's really hard to be sure,,what was good and bad.
@irishguy200007
@irishguy200007 Год назад
17 volt spike doesn't seem like much? I would have imagined at least 100 volts.
@MyPlayHouse
@MyPlayHouse Год назад
I think it is difficult to get to 100 volt.
@irishguy200007
@irishguy200007 Год назад
@@MyPlayHouse Super talented, Super Vunerable.
@73superglide62
@73superglide62 8 лет назад
big one
@MyPlayHouse
@MyPlayHouse 8 лет назад
Hi +73 SUPERGLIDE I am confused, what do you mean? Thank you for watching! :-)
@73superglide62
@73superglide62 8 лет назад
what to buy one but ho to buy them from is the question
@MyPlayHouse
@MyPlayHouse 8 лет назад
Hi 73 SUPERGLIDE Well that is the problem,, finding good desulfators to a price,,we want to pay.. these are home made. :-/ Thank you for watching! :-)
@namen.2307
@namen.2307 Год назад
А где схема ?
@MyPlayHouse
@MyPlayHouse Год назад
HI Name N. My channel is English, and to make sure as many as possible, can also enjoy the comments, they are also English. Please keep to English. Thank you for watching! :-)
@namen.2307
@namen.2307 Год назад
@@MyPlayHouse I asked - where is the circuit diagram of the device?
@FixAllFixer62
@FixAllFixer62 8 лет назад
wellcome to my world
@MyPlayHouse
@MyPlayHouse 8 лет назад
Hi +donald laisure (73SuperGlide62) What do you mean? Thank you for watching! :-)
@namangalaxy
@namangalaxy 4 года назад
AGM batteries are supposed to be dry.. they are dry gel batteries.. addidng water just ruin them.
@MyPlayHouse
@MyPlayHouse 4 года назад
They do dry up over years.. But I did add way to much.
@ubuntuwins
@ubuntuwins 8 лет назад
For your battery, do not be good, clen desulfator, nor, home-made desulfator! your batteries, have earplugs! for them, be good: overcharger: battery charger at 15.8V to 16.2v! and THEN see how they recover power and sulfate disappear. This way to be Make desulphation. Throw it in the toilet, all those objects! They just fantasy! They created for VRLA battery that no power watering with water! Now do you understand? I hope you have learned something from me! study, you do not play!
@MyPlayHouse
@MyPlayHouse 8 лет назад
HI +Luca di paolonicola I do get some of it,, Thank you for watching! :-)
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