You are very delusional my friend. If Mozart chose Figaro and did all he could with Ponte's help to mount it it is ONLY because the play was a massive success in Europe. Mozart was only looking for success, and the Emperor had to yield because Mozart and Da Ponte were aware of the popularity in Vienna of the play. Marie Antoinette did all she could to favour the play. You have a romantic stupid view of composition. And I say this because the Nozze is the best opera ever made.
100% agree. I don't view it as a history lesson at all. I see it as a very well thought out, entertaining and stunningly made cautionary tale against envy and self-loathing. Likewise, it is a grand showcase for a stunning reproduction of some of Mozart's best work (I LOVE the Marriage of Figaro and Don Giovanni scenes)! Truly one of the greats and so far has remained my personal favorite movie!
One of the courtmen arguing with Mozart about the opera was the baron van Swieten, the one who wrote the librettos for The Creation and The Seasons for Joseph Haydn. Very important at his time. And those librettos are marvelous!
It was impossible to block. Joseph II was perfectly aware of his inability to block it. The Shaffer scenario is ridiculous but necessary for non specialists.
The movie's plot is not very historically accurate, but the depiction of mozart is pretty accurate i believe. Read his letters to his father and you will find they are full with vulgar jokes about feces and ridiculous juvenile things.
Only 2 of those children survived early childhood. And Mozart did die leaving Constanze with enormous debt, though they didn’t live in poverty. She was eventually able to pay the debts off with benefit concerts of Mozarts music, however
@Boerenfox Wait a minute... is that you, Mike? Mike Salieri, Amherst '98? Hey, what's going on dude? LOL, still hung up on the "misunderstood ancestor" thing, I see...
Ironie de l'Histoire , c'est la légèreté des Noces , qui survit à toutes les violences qui ont si longtemps opposées France et Autriche sur les terrains militaires. La Vie qui passe se moque bien des conflits du moment , l'art du beau , ici porté par un opéra , survit à tout . Merci à Wolfgang , pour longtemps encore.
I loved this movie, but there was one thing I hated about it. Not the historical inaccuracy, but that laugh. That laugh. I hate that laugh, it's terrifying, like the Joker's laugh.
Great scene. But I don't understand why the filmmakers decided to have Mozart explain the beginning of the opera when it's the same as the beginning of the play! Emperor Joseph seemingly knows what it's about--right?
This scene is ridiculous. I love the movie but it is pure fiction and full of idiotic scenes.....I nevertheless love 😊😊😂 Joseph II couldn't afford to refuse the Nozze because it was a huge success ( thanks to his sister) all over Europe and particularly among Austrian nobles. This beautiful movie is PURE fiction.
Well, the play really was banned in Vienna. It was Da Ponte who argued to the emperor that the opera should be allowed. The movie is mostly fiction, but makes use of historical facts here and there. Mozart's love of fart-jokes is accurate for instance, though I greatly doubt he would have made vulgar comments to the emperor.
@@teresagardiner153 1) you are right but you forget that it was not Da Ponte's words that convinced the Emperor. It was the popularity of the play among his nobles. Da Ponte has never had an influence on the court of Vienna. 2) The fart and poop jokes were very common in Mozart's time. It has nothing to o with Mozart 's personnality. His wife and many nobles used them. 3) Shaffer's Amadeus is a theft. He used Mozart's fame to advance his proper fame by constantly lying about him, to please the audience. He could have used a fictional character and the movie would have been as good, but of course using Mozart was a far easiest road. Read about Mozart's real life and you will find that Shaeffer is a crook. NEARLY EVERYTHING in this good movie is fictional and has nothing to do with Mozart's life.
@@antoinemozart243 I know that bathroom humor was common at the time, but that doesn't mean it wasn't part of his personality. Everything you do is part of your personality. I'm not aware of Constanze indulging in fart-jokes. I wouldn't be surprised if she did, but her letters to Mozart haven't survived, and none of her surviving letters include vulgar humor, as far as I know. They could have made a movie about fictional characters, but then they'd have to compose the music themselves, and it probably wouldn't be as great as Mozart. Also, a famous name is better for marketing.
@@teresagardiner153 No, it wasn't part of his personnality. Like food, religion, composition styles, language's habits are not part of our personnality. We integrate them. Mozart was initiated as a free mason. It was not part of his "personnality". It was just necessary for his career as nearly all of his influential friends were initiated, like Haydn. Dirty jokes were common if you read letters , not only of the Mozart's but from the people who had the same status. It has NOTHING to do with his "personality". Sorry. And if you consider marketing by stealing the name and fame of an historic person as a badge of authenticity, I absolutely don't agree. Because, for commercial purposes, it abuses people .
@@antoinemozart243 I'm not sure why you think that learned behavior shouldn't count as part of someone's personality. Most of our behavior is probably learned, on some level. Crude humor is pretty common in our culture nowadays as well, but not everyone likes it. Most people do some things that are common but don't do other common things. Why? Personality. Not everyone in the 18th century liked dirty humor, because not everyone had the same personality. It's also worth pointing out that fart-jokes are *especially* common in Mozart's letters. His sister Nannerl used vulgar humor in only one of her letters, and not at all in her extensive diaries. Their parents used it more frequently than Nannerl, but still not as frequently as Mozart. That's because it was simply a more prevalent part of Mozart's personality.
it was not Mozart who assured the emperor to put the play on stage! they could have at least read some historic materials! the actor is awful. A Man who wrote such Music couldn't be so plain, banal and vulgar.
