But why did it snow storm in the future dna test scene when Mrs. Flood was turned into dust😅 I also thought that the snow was her doing until that scene
That's what I thought too: that the fourth wall breaks are because she rules over storytelling. I also assumed there was a water motif clue with the name "Flood." Bit of a stretch, but some versions of Saraswati rule over stories, music, and water (anything that flows).
He gets defeated by being thrown into the time vortex. If we're saying he was defeated by the method if it happening, let's do it to other villains. In series 2, the daleks and cybermwn were defeated by levers. In series 4, the daleks were defeated by flicking some switches. In series 5, the Doctor saved the universe by having a nice sit down. In series 6, the Doctor and river saved time with a make out session. In series 10, the Doctor stopped the cybermen by just flicking his sonic In series 12, the cybermen and the master were defeated by pressing a button
@@mrdr0161Think the point is we saw Sutekh drop the Doctor to his knees in agony with some sort of green light energy but then choose not to use that power because Ruby put a lead on him.
12th Doctor: “Listen. Question. Why do we talk out loud when we know we're alone? Conjecture. Because we know we're not. It could be with us every second and we would never know. How would you detect it, even sense it, except in those moments when, for no clear reason you choose to speak aloud? What would such a creature want? What would it do? Well? What would you do?”
My daughter pointed out that her outfit at the end looks VERY much like an outfit Romana wore, companion to the 4th! Doctor and a Time Lady herself, it might tie in nicely…she might have been waiting all that time to help the doctor and ensure everything was set up to be able to defeat Sutekh
The WHOLE "Key To Time" series (season 16) features Romana I and both (?) guardians - The "White Guardian" shows up in the Tardis and gives the Doctor the quest for acquirering the 6 parts to the Key to Time, along with his new Time Lord companion Romanadvoradlundar, who herself thought that the council of Gallifrey had appointed her to this mission. Later the Doctor deducts that the "White Guardian" might be just the "Black Guardian" hiding his true colours - because the princess, that made one part of the key, should stay in her "key-state" instead of being reverted into her own self, after rightening the imbalance of the universe... The Doctor breaks up the key and scatteres its parts again, which makes the "Black Guardian" so angry, he wants to kill him (as 5th with the help of Turlough). The Doctor hits the randomizer, to hide his tracks from an evil higher being: So all the travels with the Tardis become quite "random" after that season... Romana I regenerated "out of fancy" into Romana II (Mary Tamm being fed up with her co-star) - very vague reasons, maybe the "Guardian" made her change her looks and triggered a unseen bi-generation, keeping Romana I for himself and letting Romana II travel with the Doctor?
My stepdad said it could be Romana but also her being trapped in E Space along with the fact she seemed like more of a villainous character im not too sure
Having watched some clips from the Ribos Operation, Mrs Flood's vocal cadence also sounds a bit like Mary Tamm to my ear. I admit that's tenuous though.
Mrs. Flood breaks the 4th wall…. So she wearing past companion outfits is a nod that she is aware of the doctor and all of his/her companions. Hence why “clever boy” was said while wearing the “Clara” outfit.
Must be the meddling monk then, only a new incarnation that tells the audience it's bed time. Where's the teddy bear? Monk had said "clever boy" as well. Or it's a red herring.
Sutekh was also on 24 years date night with the Doctor and River... He must have been so bored with the retirement and not being able to produce any new "Susans"
I think she is the god of stories. Perhaps she will be revealed to have been the storyteller of all the Doctor’s stories. She dressed as both Clara and Romana so I think we will see her dressed up as other past companions next season. I think she might have ties to the Land of Fiction, perhaps she will reveal that’s where the Doctor has been all along. But I definitely think we will see her narrating and possibly controlling what happens next season.
Possibly Mrs Flood is Asherah, Innana, Astarte, or Ishtar -The Queen of Heaven, from the epic of Gilgamesh which includes the flood myth. Theoretically, she could be Sophia from the Gnostic mythology but I think Innana is probably more likely. She would storm the maker's gates of gold and seize his kingdom in the power of her true name.
Among all the Mrs. Flood theories, I haven't yet landed on a clear winner, but I DO think Ruby's ending is an in-universe fakeout engineered by the Doctor and/or UNIT to stop her from searching for the truth. She's SOMETHING other than an ordinary human, and her true form is scary and hidden by a perception filter. Think about it: In 73 Yards the spectre of her old self follows her at the exact limit of a perception filter. She directs certain people to LOOK at Ruby from just out of perception filter range, and they are IMMEDIATELY terrified of her.
I would love for this to be true. I feel like it won't be, but I would love it. Because I am still trying to head canon why her own mother would run from her. Her love for Ruby is palpable.
I think she's one the Gods that Harbinger mentioned in her epic speech. Probably Incensor, God of Disaster, since a flood is a type of natural disaster.
I don’t think she’s a harbinger. She told Cherry to “tell your maker I is coming to tear down your gates of gold and sees his kingdom” I do not think a harbinger would be talking in the first person like that
@@elliesteele2027 oh sorry, fatal, flaw of dyslexia you misread something and then you try to correct a flaw that wasn’t even there lol. If that’s the case, I definitely like this Theory!
I don't know who she is, but I have several things that rule out past beings. Her "you poor tiny woman" and comforting Cherry line rules out most of the villains Even Missy couldn't have reformed enough for that kindness, so I don't think we are dealing with The Master. Actually I think that takes out all of the Time Lords, because they thus far haven't shown the kind of superiority, mingled with kindness that the line implies. It also leaves out Clara, who related to people as individuals. Mrs Flood knows the Sunday family well enough to be called in to watch Cherry, Clara would see her as Cherry, not "tiny, little woman" and she would have told her she was getting tea, even if she knew the world would end before it boiled. Romana is an interesting idea, especially since I liked the character, although all my previous arguments apply to her. None of the big villains from the series, even if they are wearing a perception filter, have the compassion to be Mrs. Flood. The White Guardian is quite intriguing. I'm going to have to go back and check him out because he is apart from some of this. Then there is her making it quite clear she wants to throw down with God, or at least the version of God that Cherry believes in and the one that "made" us. This implies she's evil, but we spent seasons thinking the Time Lords were good guys, more or less, and then found out they were out and out baddies. So Mrs Flood may have a legitimate beef with whatever God is 'reigning" over earth. The tear down his gates of gold is reminiscent of throwing the moneylenders out of the Temple. It's also interesting she tells Cherry to give her message to "your maker" just as they are about to be destroyed. It sounds like she was pretty sure things would get sorted out by the Doctor in some way. My best guess Mrs. Flood is a godlike being of some sort, part of the pantheon, maybe evil, maybe good, maybe neutral.
RTD is going with the long game. Just as Moffet did with the Silence and the town called Christmas. Everything that happened to 11's Doctor- from Amy to River Song was all down to a splinter group that went down his timeline in order to stop him reaching that point. Mrs Flood is doing something similar. She has orchestrated the mystery around Ruby, to entice the Doctor and Sutekh. As she knew only the Doctor could stop Sutekh. Everything supernatural about Ruby was coming from Mrs Flood....who has yet to show her true identity. As much as the finale was ABIT anti-climax...the end scene tells us Mrs Flood is the key to everything. The real mystery isn't Ruby- it's Mrs Flood. Ruby was just the diversion and trap for Sutekh.
@@LaloMartins he is doing what Moffet did. Making this Doctors era about one main villain. Who I believe may turn out to be the Great Intelligence. Who went into the Doctors timeline, to turn every victory into a defeat. Unfortunately Clara stopped it, EXCEPT for Sutekh. Who hitched a ride on the TARDIS, possibly giving the Great Intelligence a way to survive also. Either way...RTD is playing the long game with Mrs Flood.
What a nice close, this whole thing opens with a narration from the 15th Doctor Saying "once apon a time, a stranger came to a street on ruby road" and with Mrs Flood saying "Thats how the story of Ruby road comes to and end", starts and end the same way, with a narration.
Mrs Flood’s door on Earth is Tardis blue and #4 as is Susan Foreman? Four-man ✨ That white coat and gold ring looks just like first Romana’s (Mary Tann’s) famous white coat and gold ring traveling with the 4th doctor. 💍 Or the master released from the Toynakers’s tooth trolling the doctors famous 2 Gallifreyan companions? 💫 Russel T Davies loves misdirection and hype so she could be anybody and the clues mean nothing. 🍃
The gaurdians first appearance was The Ribos Operation. That is the serial everybody is talking about where Romana is dressed in white. I think Mrs. Flood is one of the Gaurdians, probably the white one. The fifth Doctor specifically called the White gaurdian the lesser of two evils, somebody that follows the rule of the law rather than the spirit and isn't really good or bad.
Two possibilities for Mrs. Flood that were both introduced in the Fourth Doctor’s episode, “the Ribos Operation” and that’s the White Guardian or Romana. That entire season was quite good, introducing the Key to Time. You’ve got months to go until more Doctor Who, why not check it out?
Completly forgot about Romana. Yeah, if Flood is Time Lady then Romana would fit as a 'good time lady'. Better she wasn't the next incarnation of Missy.
The doctor mentioned how Ruby's Church Drop off was an important moment in history through this series, and event so strong that when Ruby thinks about the snow from that day manifests in the present. That moment is important because in the end a whole bunch of people including Ruby, the Dr. and Sutekh wanted to know the identity of Ruby's mother and there just wasn't enough information. It was the fact that everyone was making out this moment in history to be import that made that moment BECOME important, which is what the Dr. says in the final episode. It people's perceptions of what's important that makes them IMPORTANT. My only caveat about that though, is I think its Snowing around Mrs. Flood at the end. I haven't watch the episode a 2nd time yet so I can't remember if it was. I also can't remember at what point in them that final scene is. If its Ruby's birthday/Christmas then the fact that its snowing is perfectly normal. But if its not a winter month, then that implies Mrs. Flood has/had a connection to the snow. And yes, Sutekh was wrapped around the TARDIS the whole time. He went through it all, Time War, Satan Pit, Big Bang, Dr.'s Wife, Flux, all of it. But in all that time he was also mostly in the Time Vortex. So his super alien cells were naturally renewing and mutating in the Time Vortex which means he was become Time Lord like ( Melody Pond/River Song ). This evolution took him to God status, he probably even interacted with a few of the other Gods/Devils that the Dr. came across and stole ideas from them. I don't know if Sutekh was "The One Who Waits" just "one who waited". It was his creations, the Susan Twists, and Harriet Arbinger, that said he was the God of All Gods, but of course Sutekh was controlling them. It wasn't any of the Gods we met who directly said Sutekh was that important. I think Sutekh was just talking him self up. I think Sutekh misinterpreted Ruby's Mother Pointing, she was pointing at her Daughter's name, but he thought she was pointing at him wrapped around the Dr.'s Tardis so he then thought that the time for waiting is up and turned on all this sleeper cells on at the same time. I think the reason why Ruby's mother pointed is because when the Dr. went back into time to save Ruby from Goblins he changed time, Ruby's mother was now aware that someone saw her so she pointed to the sign to let them know she named her daughter. This made the Dr. and Sutekh think the moment was super important ( because they misinterpreted the actions ) and as result of their beliefs that moment really did become super important.
The Snow was explained in The Legend of Ruby Sunday. It's the snow from the night that Ruby was left at the Church leaking through time whenever Ruby remembers because her memories are so powerful.
Yes that happens to me all the time when I have really strong memories. How can she have really strong memories of the night when she was a newborn baby? Baby's not young. Can't even form long-term memories. Do you have really strong memories from when you were a week old? I don't care how strong anybody's memories are. I don't care if you're whole family died in a bus crash the day before. That doesn't mean you can pull environmental things from the past into the present.
Mrs Flood's outfit is reminiscent of Romana's opening story. There is also been times that her dialogue could easily have been said by Lalla's incarnation. However, i think the outfit is purely to tie into the christmas special.
Celestial Storyteller. We know Ruby's story is not done. Though I do think RTD dropped the ball in communicating that leaving people frustrated. MY takeaways... Ruby herself has a perception filter as hinted in dialogue. Why did the Doctor not want Ruby to talk to her mother (out of character). Is she really Ruby's mother or is a plot a foot. Is Ruby's father related ot Mad Jack (Ap Gwilliam (of William) Her father's name is William. With the reveal that 73 yards is the range of a perception filter when it becomes more apparent that old Ruby (Jack's Herald) wasn't telling people terrible things, she was showing them terrible things, they all look directly at Ruby before they freak out. Does standing at the very edge of the perception filter cause it's effect to sort of glitch and you see what's really real? Finding Ruby's mother was far too easy, and none of Maestro or Sutekh's dialogue work if she is just some random teen mom. For a few scenes I was almost convinced UNIT set up a fake mom just to make Ruby stop looking for now
As stupid and bullshit of an answer that is. Dr Who is with Disney now. And people have been theorizing Mary Poppins as a Timelord since the 80s. IT WOULD BE HILARIOUS! And I hope they riff on that when they do the reveal!
My initial reaction (based mainly on the final ostume design cues during that end narration) for Mrs Flood's indentity was indeed the White Guardian, but I'm probably so far off base there that it's painful. 4th Doctor era was the Black & White Guardian's first appearance - in "The Key To Time" season. When we first meet the character, they are minifesting as male, dressed in a white suit, sitting beneath a white parasol. This was in the first story of The Key To Time, which was The Ribos Operation - in which Romana wears something VERY similar to that which Mrs Flood is wearing here, so that's two possible links to that story... The thing to remember about the guardians is that they're not strictly speaking agents of good and evil, but more of order and chaos - so the White Guardian can be just as manipulative as the Black Guardian, but for very different reasons.
I don't think that we have ever seen the white guardian... Because the key of time was not used and finally there were no consequences... Maybe the black guardian dressed as the white guardian to use the Doctor to collect the key... Maybe it was the Black Guardian all along...
@@srijitseal If that was how you read those scenes, then who am I to argue? I didn't read them that way at all, for exactly the same reasons you mention - the Key To Time was not used and there were no consequences, because the White Guardian's faith in the Doctor was not misplaced. And of course, in the 5th Doctor story when the Black & White Guardians are actually talking to eachother alone, the chances of them both being the Black Guardian are pretty slim to be honest...however we read those older stories is irrelevant really - and there's probably no way they're coming back into play now anyway...and if they are, they've not been doing great Guarding!
@@thenoobsquid1857 while I would love to see The Trickster bought into the main show, I honestly dont think RTD would seed what is effectively an introduction to the character (as far as the main show viewers are concerned at least) like this. I'll be happy to be proven wrong though!
I think the snow got answered- not well but answered in empire of death because of the fact that Ruby summons it when remembering the event, it’s so strong it generates both a more realistic image and the snow into reality, this as well as suetekh trying to find the woman i think explain it quite well for me. But also there is the time lock- from when she was born, the doctor being there from birth and her actually being around the doctor both as a child and now, maybe going back would actually affect the situations she’s in a lot more than we know- perhaps this is why the doctor is so adamant about not going back, he’s scared of a father’s day level paradox or worse, maybe a mind altering paradox that kills ruby- but in theory him being there since her conception would make the memory stronger just by his aura - along with the fact that this god was laying dormant for years and when he visits this mystery woman, he sees a hole to go through making her entire timeline tampered with by gods- i think this is actually explained really well by just piecing these bits of information together but you have to piece them together.
First time, the Doctor (12) and River Song met chronically, in The Husbands of River Song, it was snowing and she wore a pretty similar dress like in the ending of the Empire of Death. The Umbrella could be also a hint to Missy.
The doctor said the snow breaks through the moment on ruby road because the moment was so tender and raw I believe. I think this was earlier in the season. I don't think it was left mysterious why the snow keeps appearing. Whether this is a satisfying answer is up to you.
And here I thought Sutekh got loose the same way the Toy Maker and Maestro got loose. When the 14th Dr did the salt thing at the end of the universe. Being there all the time was a mind bender and I liked it.
She's just a neighbour with a bluray box set of the series thus far. I think she is only important because we as the viewer assigned her meaning and she's actually just a completely normal person within the confines of the show. And when this is revealed, we need to ignore all the signs we are picking up on because that's just us fans thinking to deep into it.
@TheCagedCorvid 😆 more sarcasm, but I get it, they sometimes read the same. I was trying to get into the mindset of Russel T Davis though, did you think I did well? I AM a little disappointed about how the series ended though and I don't feel like im the only one. I accept it with Sarcasm WHOCULTURE seems to accept it with " copeium."
I don't think she's Romana. I don't think Susan would turn out evil, and I can't believe they didn't bring back Carol Ann Ford. But I recall Susan wearing a coat like that. I don't quite think they're using the Master/Mistress again. I think the Rani is colder and more aggressive and would be a bit younger.
Sutekh On The Tardis Theory: Sutekh only latched onto the Tardis in Wild Blue Yonder. The Toymaker was released by The Doctor casting superstition at the end of the universe. And ofc The Toymaker being released changed time from a specific moment of his choosing. Perhaps the superstition also allowed Sutekh to latch onto the Tardis from the moment of his defeat back in the Pyramids Of Mars story arc. Obviously, all the time we have seen as viewers of the Doctor and the Tardis would not have considered the superstition as it did not exist yet in lore. It's all part of the butterfly effect from Wild Blue Yonder. E.g., "Mavity"
The comments are amazing with Sutekh latching on the TARDIS since all this time. Keep them coming, there are so creative! I can't stop gasping everytime I read them! XD
She's clearly the master of the land of fiction (I don't think they would actually do that - it's just the first place my mind went when she was telling us about his story or whatever)
I believe Sutekh's conciousness latched onto the TARDIS in the time vortex a long and indeterminate time ago, but it's when Donna tips the coffee into the console and everything goes kablooey that the TARDIS defences drop and Sutekh is able to assimilate within it. That's when Susan Twist starts appearing, as Newton's maid. That's when 'mavity' becomes not just a cute running joke, but a marker point to let you know that suddenly time can be messed about with in this way and the consequences will stick. When the TARDIS first makes the moaning noise after the opening of Wild Blue Yonder, that's Sutekh starting to 'seduce' it and integrate himself fully. As soon as the TARDIS starts to self-repair and gets the chance to, it buggers off because Sutekh is the extreme danger it detects, not the Not-Things. And we have no idea how long it's gone for before it comes back 'repaired' with Sutekh having fully merged himself with it, there could be twelve Big Finish box sets in that time for all we know.
My Theory around Sutekh which has been debunked by the episode but I think it would have tied in better. I think Sutekh should have escaped during Flux and hid on the tardis from then till now. Flux was when the Tardis, universe and time was at its most vulnerable and weakest, so having an imprisoned God escape would have made more sense.
I mean, not really. The Flux was destruction of space, Sutekh was banished by 4 into the Time Vortex, so Flux wouldn't have made sense, Sutekh simply wasn't around. Besides, it was 14 dropping salt at the edge of the universe that freed the Gods again in the first place.
I had a theory that she has something to do with why the doctor has been more emotional than in past incarnations. Ino that people have complained about the doctor crying in nearly every episode but I honestly don't mind it it makes sense to me after the 60th this doctors taken the time to look back on the 3000 ish years he lived and cone to terms with everything he lost is kinda nice to see the doctor more intouch with his emotions and feels more free to express himself. But as for Mrs flood I wondered if it was Russel playing on the expression 'Floods of tears' so maybe she is the playing with the doctors emotions or maybe she is the one who's going to create absolute terror in the doctors life so he literally breaks into floods of tears
I am not sure about Mrs Flood but she was giving me Mary Poppins vibes during that last scene 😂 Also, do you reckon we will be seeing the Ood make a return next season? They were mentioned a bit this episode! Also, I don't think The Trickster is anyone we know, but I do feel like we will be seeing them at some point!!
@willcartoons Yes that is certainly a possibility - especially considering the whole tooth situation... I did have another strange theory about the Master which stemmed from the fact that whoever picked up the tooth had red nails and Kate has been shown to have red nails throughout this whole season... could be a link there? I honestly can't wait to find out about Mrs Flood. I think if it is pulled off well, that "night night" at the end of the episode will go down as a truly iconic line!
A fun theory, not to be taken seriously, is that with Disney getting involved the old trope of Mary Poppins with her umbrella and “bigger on the inside” baggage is a Time Lord. Mrs. Flood with her parasol at the end is Mary Poppins. 😉
I just think she’s her own character and has some rather interesting motives. Maybe a time lord, maybe someone who hasn’t been introduced with different abilities.
When Mrs. Flood rocked up on top of that roof in her white get-up I thought RTD might finally confirm the Mary Poppins is a TL theory! 😂 But Poppins + TL is already realized in the character of Missy. I am certain she is the one who retrieved the Master tooth prison, so she can’t be Missy. I have become convinced she’s the Rani. Heavy wordplay all season. Flood = Rani gotta be.
Speaking into the void, I think the snow was implied to have been Sutekh all along once they started referring to him as the god of ice too. I'm guessing he was just really excited to find out who Ruby's mom was too and couldn't contain himself or his own theories. But it could still be a bigger mystery, I'm just not betting on it. And I think it's safe to say like many other large IPs that it is in the best interests of the people who make money off of this show not to blatantly contradict, disqualify, or de-canonize other materials within the IP. Everything about the explanation behind Sutekh's return is just vague enough to provide people who only watch the show with a passing reason for his survival while also still allowing for the expanded materials in comics and audio dramas to be viably canon. It makes no sense for Sutekh to have been clinging to the TARDIS for all this time, even just watching the show, but it makes perfect sense for him to have jumped on in Wild Blue Yonder if you know the expanded canon. Unfortunately the average viewer wouldn't enjoy being expected to do all this research to jump onto a show that is supposed to be in its "first" season, and it would turn them and potential new viewers away. As for Mrs. Flood, I was thinking she was Susan because she was always a bit on the creepy side, and there was a brief moment of Clara suspicion, but after the Romana outfit reference I am completely thrown. It isn't even safe to guess she's Romana because RTD is clearly messing with us.
that maybe a way to bring him back in wayyy into future who as he died here. he will probably wait some more to devise a new plan because his was foiled?
Yeah you got it, He’s waiting so he’s at every point in history throughout the universe... or at least that’s what the episode heavily implies, hence the doctors guilt reaction
Its definitely not right, but i thought itd be funny if it was Iris Wildthyme. Fourth wall breaking, knows about tardises and the doctor, hangs around earth, can presumably regenerate? Once again totally not correct but god it'd be hilarious
So, I've been doing some looking into gods in classic Who and it turns out that God is one of the, well, gods that appears. So it appears Mrs. Flood was being very literal in her desire to usurp God. With that in mind, I think she very well may be a villain and possibly one of the Guardians or other supernatural being from the show's past.
Maybe she is : Iris Wildthyme Iris Wildthyme can be described as a meta-fictional character, able to comment on the world she is in, and on the Doctor's own adventures from a point of view 🎉🎉🎉
Makes so much more sense to me if Sutekh was flung somewhere past the edge of creation when the Doctor beat him and sent him to his "death". And playing the game allowing the Toymaker in, also dragged in Sutekh and the other gods. Only Sutekh being an enterprising fella, latched onto the Tardis as the Doctor and Donna were escaping. The groaning started in Wild Blue Yonder. It doesnt fuck with so much shit, as funny as it is to think of Sutekh and House just chilling in the Doctors Wife
I think Mrs Flood did say clever “boy”. I was more interested in her line from last week when she said someone had died (her mom? Idk) because “I wasn’t watching”. What the what?!?!
I think Mrs Flood is either good aligned or neutral, if she was actually evil I doubt she would have comforted Cherry. I don’t know what her game is or what she has planned, but I think we can count her as an ally in the long run.
I think Mrs Flood is a DCs Mojo type character who is narrating and speaking to the audience because she draws power from it. We've seen alternate universes in Who, like when Rose went to her dad, I think we the audience are in one such universe, and Flood is aware of us. The doctor will need to fight against fate, her script, to beat her next season.
Clues so far: "Clever boy" (clearly intended to invoke Clara but doesn't make sense since Clara is trapped in a single moment and can't age). The umbrella (looks a bit like Missy's, is this the Fifteenth Doctor's incarnation of the Master?) The fur coat (suggests the White Guardian, but also looks like what Romana wore in her debut story, which is coincidnetally the White Guardian's debut too) Rani/Rain (the rain/flood pun is incredibly weak but this season's finale shows RTD is willing to hang a lot on a weak pun, not sure why the Rani would have onmiscient narrator powers though) Pond/River/Flood (again feels like a weak pun and a rehash of AGMGTW, also doesn't make sense as River can't regenerate again so how could she looks different?) Personally I don't think it's any of the above. She'll turn out to be a new God from the pantheon, or perhaps (given her seeming interest in stories) the Master of the Land of Fiction.
The Rani was a sometimes evil Time Lord. If she was not planning on doing anything evil at the moment she was willing to help the Doctor. Someone willing to be either good or evil.
ill help RTD out here and say he was not physically on top of the tardis, but moreso metaphysically around the tardis in some kind of intangible stasis
RTD is such a lazy writer he just leaves his nerdy gay fans to fill in the blanks 🙄 I have never seen an episode and maybe an entire series so riddled with plot holes. Not even Chinballs was this incompetent.
could it be that shes " the queen of the 4th dimension" like because she keeps breaking the 4th wall and the 4th dimension is sometimes referred to as time especially in early sci fi
I like the idea of Iris Wyldthyme because they have a metaverse power and would be interesting to see here. They could just be cosplaying older companions hence the clara outfit and the snow cloak outfit.
There were quite a few mentions of religion this season and we know Mundy (I’m not sure how her name is spelled) will be a companion next season. Mrs Flood could be the main villain for next season, she literally told Ruby’s grandmother to warn god she’s coming for him. She may have been wronged or felt abandoned by god, or perhaps a victim of one of the religious wars Mundy was involved in.
Take these two things into account about Mrs. Flood. 1) She ended the episode dressed in a white fur coat, very similar to one seen before by a Time Lady and temporary companion of the Doctor, specifically, Romana. 2) On her suitcase was a sticker for Penzance. Which immediately leads me to think of the Pirates of Penzance. Which may be alluding to The Pirate Planet, which was an episode which featured Romana.
I’m personally tired of some of the politics put through with doctor who. I’m mixed race so the concept of cultural appropriation annoys me tbh. It assumes mono ethnicity in some sense which increasing the world is becoming less mono ethnicity. It just felt to me like such an unnecessary jibe. Like if someone is appreciating a culture and using it I don’t see an issue with it. There is so much beauty in to be admired in different cultures and for it to be gate keeped isn’t very productive. Plus in the 1980’s the country was more English so English people acting as Egyptians I don’t understand the issue cause it was filmed in a society where that was okay. I guess I just feel that apart from just being a decent human being and respecting peoples right to love who they want and be who they want. Certain concepts are more debatable, more socially constructed than things found in nature. Sometimes it’s nice just to escape from certain concepts. Id rate this season alright, enjoyable I’m glad doctor who is back. Not as good as it has been in the past but a nice improvement to where the show was under chibnal.
I doubt Ms Flood will have a harbinger. Toymaker didn't have. For the same reason - they were already here. And for why Sutekh had Harbinger but was "already here" - no, he wasn't... not really... he needed Harbinger to materialize to be pulled out of the TARDIS. Then one more... why tARDIS started behave like that now? Easy - all this time TARDIS was alive and use her powers to confine him. All those graons lately, the indigestion, was the groans of confiment being breached.
Rubys mum is a right weirdo, I feel like it’s a misdirect somehow. Why was she wearing all black and covering her face and why did she point at the sign to name Ruby. That’s not how a normal human being behaves😂
Firstly Mrs Flood appeared Sitting Down outside rather like the White Guardian,'s first appearance The Dove returned to Noah as a sign that the Flood was over, The White Guardian wears a dove on his head. The White Guardian brought Romana to the Doctor. She wore a feathery white outfit. The White Guardian also had a parasol in his first appearance. Thats why I think its the Black Guardian as he has impersonated the white Guardian before.
Flood being Rani or another random surviving Time Lord would be pointless now. The Doctor isn't even an actual Time Lord, meeting another random survivor doesn't hold the same weight.
I think there's a chance that doctor resurrected Galifrey again by killing Sutekh. It is stated that doctor restored all people that were killed by sutekh but that doesn't mean he couldn't revive someone else
my theory is that Mrs. Flood is the one who waits and Sutekh was a diversion. She knew he was coming, she's been sus the whole time, she broke the fourth wall talking directly to us. I'm also confused because when 15 duplicated the TARDIS, Sutekh was only clinging to his TARDIS and not 11/14's? like did he jump onto 15's ship or did he get duplicated? and what are Mrs. Flood's great plans she had before Sutekh wiped her out? I don't think she's Susan and I don't think she's Jenny like people have been suggesting, but I do think we've met her before in a different form, I just can't figure out when/where/why/or how
If Sutekh wasn't actually The One Who Waits, and it's Mrs. Flood, then I think she could (should?) be the Valeyard. It would make sense for her to be mostly evil but still be enough of the Doctor to comfort Cherry.