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@KromeDrone
@KromeDrone 7 лет назад
Step 1: Choose your colors Step 2: Sell your soul to the devil for fetches, duals, and shocks. Step 3: Question your sanity
@niallreid7664
@niallreid7664 6 лет назад
Step 4: Get ganged up on and quit the hobby.
@freepaper100
@freepaper100 6 лет назад
Step 5: Make a video about it
@VivaLechonk
@VivaLechonk 5 лет назад
freepaper100 step 6: leave a comment on that video
@berndlindeberg3253
@berndlindeberg3253 5 лет назад
Step 7: Print this Lands as Proxies and figure out if it is worth it or not to play them in your playgroup and possibly salting everyone
@TomozAlpha
@TomozAlpha 3 года назад
Step 8: ask for your soul back
@Chewy-Pudding
@Chewy-Pudding 7 лет назад
Jimmy did a really good presenting the information in this video. Good job, Jimmy!
@joshleekwai8895
@joshleekwai8895 7 лет назад
Ugh... :-p
@tommagennis
@tommagennis 7 лет назад
That opening was solid gold. Thanks for cheering me up, Prof.
@cubefortwo
@cubefortwo 2 года назад
I feel like with all the new lands: pathways, triome, revel lands, canopy lands, etc. that it is time to update these videos. I literally still pause them on the final list to craft my mana bases, they never steer me wrong.
@mrInSaNiTyDuDe
@mrInSaNiTyDuDe 3 месяца назад
I know this is an old comment, but I wanted to offer my two cents because it's an interesting discussion. I'm not sure if it's entirely necessary, since the cold reality with EDH is these mana bases still work and especially if you pump all the money to get the best versions presented, they are still optimal. Most of the improvements with newer cards are either very small optimizations or only beneficial for specific strategies like the surveil lands now. However, it shouldn't be too hard to make the changes yourself. For example triomes are the replacement for old tri lands since they fill the same function, but are just better since they pack the land types and can even cycle if they are a dead draw. Then you can pretty much run through the list and find these small optimizations for your own decks.
@doicheman
@doicheman 7 лет назад
Mana source + command zone + TCC. those three are solid gold.
@PracticalBibleStudies
@PracticalBibleStudies 2 года назад
This aged poorly.
@richardjohnson4211
@richardjohnson4211 7 лет назад
Fantastic video, glad you got the Command Zone on here to help with the mana base of the new commander set!
@TolarianCommunityCollege
@TolarianCommunityCollege 7 лет назад
Yeah, and that opening skit in particular is one of my favorites we've ever done. Cheers.
@sebastianahrens2385
@sebastianahrens2385 7 лет назад
For this intro alone you deserve more likes than youtube allows me to give. Thanks to all involved for this video!
@tehhayn2732
@tehhayn2732 7 лет назад
This is the best description of a teacher ever! Thanks, I will be using this forever.
@k1n6n07h1n6
@k1n6n07h1n6 7 лет назад
No Sol Ring joke? I'm disappointed.
@charlieparr3685
@charlieparr3685 7 лет назад
love that youre collaborating with command zone prof!
@thewonderdoc2999
@thewonderdoc2999 7 лет назад
If you want to use Filter lands in your decks I suggest using the Shadowmoor/Eventide filters over the ones from Odyssey though some of them (Cascade Bluffs, Twilight Mire) can be a bit pricey. They can a) tap for colourless on their own and b) can filter you not only into AB mana but also AA and BB. As an alternative to the tri lands the "lairs" from Planeshift exist. They enter tapped as well but force you to bounce a non-lair land on etb. This can be helpful to abuse other utility lands like a Bojuka Bog.
@thewonderdoc2999
@thewonderdoc2999 7 лет назад
I still believe them to be better. The versatile fixing is very helpful for things that need more than one mana of a kind and it isn't a completely dead card when you drop it alone like the others are.
@andrewp979
@andrewp979 7 лет назад
BTIsaac they are a lot better
@fergusfisher1315
@fergusfisher1315 7 лет назад
Too expensive and inflexible in 4 colour
@kylescott2290
@kylescott2290 7 лет назад
"Like a mother bird to her young", hahaha
@notjoaquindecastro
@notjoaquindecastro 7 лет назад
Can't wait to use this in my Atraxa, Praetor's Voice EDH Deck. After watching these mana base EDH videos, all of my Commander Decks increased in function, utility, and fun after I upgraded them. This is especially true with my two-color Rakdos, Lord of Riots and Kaseto, Orochi Archmage decks, where I pretty much just put Guildgates and Basics, so these videos are extremely useful.
@USAltefore
@USAltefore 7 лет назад
>Zendikar Fetches Maybe someday we'll get an affordable reprint.
@xylitus2830
@xylitus2830 7 лет назад
as if, the onslaught ones dropped bit from khans, but what are you gonna do
@shawnslyce158
@shawnslyce158 7 лет назад
it took 12 years to get the first reprints we have a long way to go
@nelspaulson3099
@nelspaulson3099 7 лет назад
and the shuffling causes all kinds of issues in tournaments so they are very reluctant. Put them in the next conspiracy, everyone happy.
@USAltefore
@USAltefore 7 лет назад
Nels Paulson That would be a good way to do it!
@jhoku1
@jhoku1 7 лет назад
+Nels Paulson Shuffling causes problems? Cheating is only i can imagine. All magic player's should know how to shuffle...
@SomeFreakingCactus
@SomeFreakingCactus 6 лет назад
MTG youtubers are probably the most tight-knit youtubers in any gaming community. They're always seen promoting each others stuff and leaving fun comments in each other's videos. It's awesome!
@jackpabich763
@jackpabich763 6 лет назад
Nice job, Josh! You're amazing. Love all of your decks on The Command Zone.
@ymahairas711
@ymahairas711 7 лет назад
Love your channel! Always entertaining & informative... I recently came back to MTG a year and a half ago after not playing since around 1999. I found your channel and have been watching it ever since. Easily the best MTG content online.
@TheTekst165
@TheTekst165 7 лет назад
glad to see the professor and the command zone working together... great job guys!
@MrTowels
@MrTowels 7 лет назад
I'm fairly new to magic but I find it very helpful watching your channel. Keep up the good work!
@moonknights01
@moonknights01 7 лет назад
Don't forget about Planeshift Lairs! It was mentioned in the "Top 5 Underrated and Budget Dual Land" video
@PhyxiusGaming
@PhyxiusGaming 5 лет назад
Perfect explanation of what a professor does. And a perfect appearence of JLK and Jimmy!
@darthnater9819
@darthnater9819 7 лет назад
so, professor, where's that how to build a mono color mana base video?
@TolarianCommunityCollege
@TolarianCommunityCollege 7 лет назад
That's next on the list.
@GenyaArikado
@GenyaArikado 7 лет назад
professor, you are an inspiration to me. You explain everything very good about MTG. You seem very humble and polite to your viewers. Keep up the amazing work :)
@ThorMan91587
@ThorMan91587 4 года назад
It finally happened
@NaldoNidoking
@NaldoNidoking 7 лет назад
There are also always the Lorwyn Shadowmoor filters that tap for a colorless or filter.
@kyojitakenouchi9706
@kyojitakenouchi9706 7 лет назад
Lucas Garrett shadowmoor/eventide filters > odyssey filters
@matthewloser7567
@matthewloser7567 7 лет назад
and if you're in black the tainted lands are nice.
@ForeverLaxx
@ForeverLaxx 7 лет назад
The biggest drawback to the Shadowmoor filters (which I'm a huge fan of, for the record) is that they require colored mana in order to filter. The Odyssey filters do not have this restriction.
@fergusfisher1315
@fergusfisher1315 7 лет назад
The shadowmoor lands are very expensive and also in a 4 color deck don't nearly work as well
@halogrizzhand
@halogrizzhand 7 лет назад
I think that in the greenless deck you can cut one basic of each and replace them with the corresponding artifact lands. This allows them to be added to your artifact count, and can be 'fetched' with trinket mage.
@brettaugarten8445
@brettaugarten8445 7 лет назад
Great colab! Love me some Command Zone!
@craigcarroll2000
@craigcarroll2000 7 лет назад
Love the collaboration with the Command Zone guys.
@TheOlsonOutfit
@TheOlsonOutfit 7 лет назад
"Hey, I'm a professor. I can't come up with stuff on my own." Great collaboration.
@ghostanbu1099
@ghostanbu1099 3 года назад
It'd be great to get an updates version of this Prof.
@mastermike890
@mastermike890 3 года назад
Hope the professor does an updated one of these at some point
@dragonic13
@dragonic13 7 лет назад
One of the best building a mana base for commander on here.
@jaferalyhooda310
@jaferalyhooda310 7 лет назад
"At least I'll get the basic math right." "Run 9 basics - 4+4+1+1" Welp.
@brittanynguyen3794
@brittanynguyen3794 3 года назад
Asians are good at math. Why not have Jimmy on?
@evthemage97
@evthemage97 7 лет назад
Very cheeky video prof. Great job 😁
@neptalycarrera6907
@neptalycarrera6907 7 лет назад
Thank you for this professor!!
@Josh_Fredman
@Josh_Fredman 7 лет назад
I love your sense of humor, Professor! And speaking of the music, what's that music called? Where can we get it?
@PhoenixGravin
@PhoenixGravin 7 лет назад
Great video, Prof!
@Jptorrent004
@Jptorrent004 7 лет назад
This is great! Very in-depth (:
@mr.arcane9485
@mr.arcane9485 4 года назад
Thanks for a great video once again.
@dinonicle97
@dinonicle97 7 лет назад
Very well done!!!
@williamrodenbough5518
@williamrodenbough5518 4 года назад
Thanks Professor!
@ancientswordrage
@ancientswordrage 4 года назад
Unexpected command zone! Given how old this is, worth a rerun?
@Oakenbull
@Oakenbull 7 лет назад
great video, this is top notch information presented in a clear and present danger
@joshleekwai8895
@joshleekwai8895 7 лет назад
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it.
@jeanmarais337
@jeanmarais337 7 лет назад
Perfect. Thanks.
@kikohernandez5188
@kikohernandez5188 7 лет назад
I FREAKING LOVE YOU PROFESSOR
@autofigure00
@autofigure00 7 лет назад
i really wish wizards made 4 colored lands in the new decks
@sithdragon3333
@sithdragon3333 6 лет назад
Really all of it was very funny when Josh and Prof were talking.
@CSDragon
@CSDragon 7 лет назад
Special note: Atraxa has her own suite of lands that you should add. Vivid lands will always tap for any color, depletion lands never run out of benefits, and storage lands only need to be charged once to start building a large reservoir of mana. That said, don't go crazy with them since they are tap lands. Gem Mine is a must though
@fergusfisher1315
@fergusfisher1315 7 лет назад
CSDragon also llanowar awakened for memes
@TheRaon75
@TheRaon75 7 лет назад
Are we ever gonna see a video on how to build a colorless mana base? Could be fun.
@fergusfisher1315
@fergusfisher1315 7 лет назад
Erik Cobra not much to it just wastes and other colourless lands, if eldrazi run eye and other such cards
@dickjohnson8983
@dickjohnson8983 7 лет назад
that opening was gold
@fergusfisher1315
@fergusfisher1315 7 лет назад
I am playing atraxa and so have tried to include utility lands that make mana as well as doing something helpful, such as a storage land, Oran-rief the vast wood, llanowar reborn, as well as some other ramp, such as astral cornucopia and coalition relic, however it gets in the way of the mana base you described
@fergusfisher1315
@fergusfisher1315 7 лет назад
Also, as a green heavy deck, I removed one of the two tri-lands, Sao I only have one. Is it ok to be murmuring bosk. It deals damage but is fetchable
@a.gentleman5441
@a.gentleman5441 7 лет назад
This is mono dece. I was looking up on manabasecrafter what I could throw in the Atraxa. It was either, tons of fetches and fetchable duals, or lots of pain lands and utility lands. At least green has access to utopia, birds, and myr!
@Kestral287
@Kestral287 7 лет назад
Upside, Atraxa doesn't care at all about pain lands. Gaining 4 life is a turn is so insanely good given her capabilities.
@rdownham1303
@rdownham1303 7 лет назад
Masterful! :)
@danieltaber4924
@danieltaber4924 7 лет назад
THANK YOU
@Lucarioguild7
@Lucarioguild7 7 лет назад
I can't wait to have zozu done just in time for the four color commanders :P
@a3s1r1986
@a3s1r1986 6 лет назад
I only just looked at this vid and I can see why my Atraxa Superfriends ends up getting mana-screwed. Now I finally know which lands to look for.
@AL-sw6im
@AL-sw6im 7 лет назад
when are we getting the mono-colored mana base? :)
@duckhuntdynasty6562
@duckhuntdynasty6562 7 лет назад
I loved this intro!
@rustybaker7537
@rustybaker7537 7 лет назад
I am trying to obtain all copies of Lair Lands. You can run two different ones in each 4 color combos. I suggest grabbing them because they are all around or under a $1 and the are tri color and come in untapped. You may have to bounce a land but you can tap a land then bounce it.
@BigMikePlays
@BigMikePlays 7 лет назад
I play boundless realms... I love lots of basics & chromatic lantern :3
@BigMikePlays
@BigMikePlays 7 лет назад
oh and if i can twincast or reverberate it or bring it back from the grave all of the lands..... :3 I have a gitrog deck....
@mikevitrosoo621
@mikevitrosoo621 7 лет назад
reflection pool also helps
@wackzacko
@wackzacko 7 лет назад
What would be your breakdown for a "no budget" 4 color mana base? You only suggested 6 fetchlands, but if I had some extra money, how many should I run? and what other types should I remove to make room?
@michaeldesjardin705
@michaeldesjardin705 6 лет назад
"I'll get the basic math right" *Says 4-4-1-1 is 9*
@runeboyz7
@runeboyz7 5 лет назад
while building a W/B/U/R artifact deck, I found that making room for treasures and gold tokens (curse of oppulence for example) let me eliminate one whole color from my mana base. So while I have 4 colors, my mana base is Grixis colors and any white mana comes from signits or treasure/gold tokens
@Lightsaber2814
@Lightsaber2814 7 лет назад
I honestly think one of the best things to run is amulet of vigor. When on a budget running that instead of some of the more expensive lands makes your tri lands amazing.
@Lost1nTheFog
@Lost1nTheFog 7 лет назад
Amulet isnt something you want to draw into late game, but neither is a tap land... Ehh its nice if you are extremely budget, but then you need tutors to grab vigor...
@AzanulbizarLaban
@AzanulbizarLaban 7 лет назад
If you'd add the land composition in the video explanation it would be much easier to go back to the video and check. Instead of having to skim the video to find it. Useful video anyhow, good job! :)
@alleertmen3
@alleertmen3 3 года назад
Can we have a update on these guides prof?
@Wiseguy150
@Wiseguy150 7 лет назад
Question that I don't think was answered in the video, lets say I have all 6 OG dual lands for a 4 color deck, plus all 6 shocks, 4-6 fetches, AND the 2 or 3 Battle lands in your colors. What lands should be prioritized after those, presumably after the correct amount of basics and utility lands plus any color lands are added? Are lorwyn filter lands, painlands, or checklands (of course based on the colors you're leaning towards the most) better to use after all the previous spots are taken? I find that I have very little room left to work with after having all of the aforementioned lands in. So which ones of the 3 categories are best and in what order?
@1AbsoluteZERO
@1AbsoluteZERO 7 лет назад
My only recommendation is to use amulet of vigor. It allows you to play and use your lands on time. When I use a three plus color deck I always run it.
@Atmapalazzo
@Atmapalazzo 7 лет назад
12:52 except for zurgo helmsmasher decks :P
@xanders3083
@xanders3083 7 лет назад
my favorite green mana ramp is exploration
@soupofkings
@soupofkings 7 лет назад
Feed me, mama bird
@TolarianCommunityCollege
@TolarianCommunityCollege 7 лет назад
Caw! Caw! (throws up draft chaff into your deck box)
@overlord8805
@overlord8805 7 лет назад
Tolarian Community College Draft Chaff deck
@photosinensis
@photosinensis 7 лет назад
After I get the last two fetches I need for my deck, I'm going to have to start cutting basics. Pain lands come first. The only utility lands I'm running are Maze of Ith and Reliquary Tower. I'm also running Oath of Lieges, which is repeatable and symmetrical. That alone ups my basic lands.
@fergusfisher1315
@fergusfisher1315 7 лет назад
photosinensis maze doesn't count as a land in the count, include temple of the false god and command tower and beacon
@ryant8162
@ryant8162 7 лет назад
This was a sight for sore eyes after the presidency...
@ForTheViolence
@ForTheViolence 7 лет назад
Thanks for this professor. i think I'll buy a commander deck to distract me from this election.
@OGwold
@OGwold 7 лет назад
Net-deck, home brew or a mix?
@ForTheViolence
@ForTheViolence 7 лет назад
Pipetruls I'm just going to buy a 2016 one to get started and then go from there.
@kokushin55
@kokushin55 7 лет назад
Odissey filter lands vs Shadowmoor/Eventide filter lands, which a re better? I tend to err on the side of Shadowmoor/Eventide, but according to the video, Josh thinks otherwise... Thoughts?
@Totema1
@Totema1 7 лет назад
Hey Josh, what about the SHM/EVE filter lands?
@HavocTheWendigo
@HavocTheWendigo 7 лет назад
Omg you guys x,D that was way too funny lmao
@Eleros
@Eleros 7 лет назад
I usually prefer Check Lands over Pain and Filters to be honest.
@fgregerfeaxcwfeffece
@fgregerfeaxcwfeffece 7 лет назад
You could use an FM Transmitter so you wont need to insert the radio sounds later. Since the are legal in germany and we are pretty restrictive in that area i guess you can use them pretty much anywhere. It would also "improve" the sound by making it "worse". Why use special effects when you can have a real lightsaber?
@pariahdox7963
@pariahdox7963 7 лет назад
howzit Josh Lee kwai (spellcheck plz)
@shanehorton9688
@shanehorton9688 7 лет назад
Maybe it's just a colloquialism but the presented "filter" lands are, in my opinion, better referred to as "signet lands" seeing as they operate identical to the guild signets. Filter lands, in my opinion, refers best to the lands where I can put in 1 of one colour and get either 2 of that colour, 1 of that colour and another or 2 of the other colour.
@fergusfisher1315
@fergusfisher1315 7 лет назад
Shane Horton yeah but the odyssey lands were named after the shadowmoor lands, because people thought they were so similar
@nathones
@nathones 7 лет назад
Surprised to see no mention of the checklands like Dragonskull Summit, Glacial Fortress, etc.
@WolfgangF88
@WolfgangF88 7 лет назад
7:55 Could you use Lair lands instead of the tapped tri-lands? Lairs are tri-lands that come into play untapped but bounce a land back to your hand.
@avinashkai6604
@avinashkai6604 5 лет назад
😂🤣 love the video.
@rioscardot
@rioscardot 7 лет назад
I must say that managing colors in EDH is part of the fun of the format. In 5-colored decks you must be montrously talented to built and play with them efficiently 4-colored ones are a new addition as you mentioned, because there is no previously known database. but still fun. 3-colored ones are, for me, the most fun ones. the perfect balance of colors in here can be achieved and there is a wide variety of of mana artifacts that can be played. 2-mana decks are still fun. but the mana artifact and non-green ramping options decrease in this level. in 3colored you can easily use 3 signets, for example. but in here, options aren't that varied. Now, MONO-colored EDH decks are, for me, very difficult to built due to the fact that single-colored efficient generators are finite, especially when it doenst have green. So, professor, I agree, too, with Nate Krauthein. can you make a video for mono-colored commanders? try Mangara of Corondor, or black commanders
@gabrielvega1713
@gabrielvega1713 5 лет назад
if I was to switch the odyssey filter lands for shadowmoor filter lands should I run all 6?
@mikevitrosoo621
@mikevitrosoo621 7 лет назад
it is worth noting though that using fetches Robs from that 38ish land count.
@kossetsu_7192
@kossetsu_7192 7 лет назад
Hey Prof just play the half cycle of Lorwyn Filters which are so much better.
@tempestandacomputer6951
@tempestandacomputer6951 7 лет назад
Love that intro hahahaha
@nikatanyx5241
@nikatanyx5241 7 лет назад
But what about the new filter lands such as cascade bluffs or fetid heath?
@toastytcg1282
@toastytcg1282 3 года назад
Is the fix vs ramp logic still relevant or is that dated? Im really confused as to why I wouldnt want to play a 3 drop that ramps starting the turn a play it vs a 3 drop that gets me a card that wont matter until my next turn
@Ryan-vw9iw
@Ryan-vw9iw 7 лет назад
Thank you mother bird
@edschramm6757
@edschramm6757 2 года назад
so my mana base in 4 colors tend to look something like this. 6 shocks 6 checks 2 triomes (one of these turns all 6 check lands. in 5 color it turns 9 of them on) Command Tower 2 Tri-lands (these get cut if i have a lower curve, where i want to have more untapped lands) Mana Confluence Temple of the False God Reliquary Tower (this gets cut if my deck doesn't like big hand sizes) i use the slow fetches (most of my decks are slow enough the difference in timing doesn't hurt) round out with basics. my ramp tools are a bit less cut and dry, but they are still pretty consistent. if i'm in blue, i run Growth Spiral and Uro, Titan of Nature's Wrath. Explore, Ranger's Path, and Skyshroud claim are present if i'm in green (i almost always am) Chromatic Lantern is damn near an auto-include for color fixing, and Commander's Sphere is also one i run a lot. i tend to round out my ramp options with cluestones. this is because i like having ramp options that can buy me something if i decide later in the game i don't need them (or i can sacrifice for benefit in response to an artifact sweeper) my mana bases tend to look very similar to each other as far as core composition. i tend to go with a 40 land start, with 2 ramp cards. then, for every land i go down, i go up two ramp cards. if i am playing a landfall core, i will lean more like 44 lands with 6 or 7 "go get a land" cards. about the weakest mana base i have ever built was a 36/8 deck, which had a heavy control package, and had win conditions like Demonic Pact/Harmless Offering or Beacon of Immortality/False Cure.
@antman7673
@antman7673 4 года назад
I have an almost all basic land 4 color commander deck and use all the ramp to search for colors i don’t have. And the early game is almost all green.
@0ColorKing0
@0ColorKing0 7 лет назад
Hello Professor, I understand that this video has been out for several months, but I recently put together a PDF template for a land base very similar to what Josh presented here. I'd like to share this with the rest of the TCC community should anyone else be looking for something similar, however, links in RU-vid comments are intrinsically untrustworthy. Do you (or any other community members) have any suggestions?
@Leb4life14
@Leb4life14 7 лет назад
"At least I'll get the math right" States that 4-4-1-1 is equal to 9.
@Azninjazn
@Azninjazn 7 лет назад
can you make one for a mono color mana base video for fun?
@johnderienzo1644
@johnderienzo1644 7 лет назад
Professor is there any way to make your modern infect deck cheaper
@BozzLightyr
@BozzLightyr 6 лет назад
Lol I think this was the first time I saw Josh
@Jakerunio
@Jakerunio 7 лет назад
What happens when you want to run the 4 colored artifact lands in you colors? In Breya I definitely want to, especially since a number of my cheap artifact tutors can grab them.
@fergusfisher1315
@fergusfisher1315 7 лет назад
Jake Thompson replace the basics, they are basically better except for artifact hate which u have to look out for. Also run darksteel citadel, because it stops most artifact hate
@ryugakuroyami466
@ryugakuroyami466 7 лет назад
For Mid-Heavy Green wouldn't cards like Gaia's Touch and Exploration be good for ramp?
@Apparat8
@Apparat8 7 лет назад
If you own an Exploration, you might as well throw in Crucible of Worlds and the True Duals. Burgeoning, too. Gaea's Touch would not be good for ramp in a deck that might only have 4-5 basic Forests.
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