Murdaugh's Motion for New Trial - Ms. Becky Is The Focus 

A thoughtful prediction…I agree. I’m not into predicting outcomes without a hearing…to confirm the evidence.

Where in MA? I’m from here too

Well this is Holy Shit South Carolina bizzarro world where lawyers get badges & LE lights for their personal vehicle to ambulance chase...

Yeah & you're from a perfect state...@@screwyou2

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What bugged me about the trial is they wanted to prove he is a bad person therefore he did it. They ended up providing 3 other groups of people he screwed over might have wanted it done to make him suffer. The sad thing is they didn't bother to preserve the evidence properly so we now will never know

So you think this guy is innocent? Still looking for the invisible black man to take the fall for this?

100% agree.

​@kisha1682 whoa. That escalated quickly.

@@ERSwangerit escalated because of people’s subconscious biases about rich white men should get the benefit of the doubt because, surely they couldn’t murder their wife and son. People have given Alec so many excuses because he looks the part. He was found to be guilty by a jury of his peers in the jurisdiction that he demanded. Yes, it escalated quickly but it is a direct consequence of situational morality. Change the ethnicity or economic status and see whether people would have the same reaction to get him a new trial. People have been sent to jail with far less evidence. They don’t have the luxury of having expensive lawyers and that is a shame for every American.

PURE speculation on my part ... but if I was a juror I might have assumed her comments and behavior were OK since she "spoke" for the court. I might have wondered if it was OK, but not wanted to rock the boat and reassured myself it was OK since she was part of the court structure. They knew many eyes in the country were on what they were doing.

“If they are facts” being the operative phrase.

​@@KLHatchthe judge has already admitted that Becky improperly tampered with the jury. So if he finds they aren't facts he's corrupt.

Should he? We have to get these people on the stand to swear under oath that their Affidavits are true. It’s interesting that the egg lady declared that she hadn’t made up her mind about guilt or innocence, yet is the reason for the potential for a new trial. She’s a Karen.

@@5paces164 no she isn't the reason for a new trial, she is only one of many reasons for a new trial. Please tell me how, if true, it was fair that the clerk of courts, a politician, was able to sway or even have a chance to sway the outcome of the trial? *_I'll wait_*

@@changeminds2736 we haven’t heard the alleged evidence. She takes up the majority of the filings from the Defense Team. Most of the statements are allegations, and it seems like she really, really wanted to hang that jury just like her tenants told a coworker. If she “hadn’t made up her mind” like she said when confronted, why did it matter about Alex being convicted by a jury of his peers? After all, she hadn’t made up her mind, BUT she had a problem with the guns not being found. Good grief I’m also disturbed by the usage of purportedly throughout her Affidavit. Few people use that word with the exception of attorneys. Someone in that office coached that woman and it’s probably going to blow up in her face if she lied, for a great case of defamation and slander. The allegations include believing that the Jury conspired and had secret talks with the Clerk of the Court. There’s also the allegation that the Clerk walked with the Foreman of the Jury. Keep in mind that both the Judge, baliff, Defense Attorneys, and numerous others were there also. If there was a problem, why wasn’t it brought up during the trial? The Facebook posts did occur. It was the wrong person, but still had nothing to do with the egg lady’s dismissal. There is absolutely NO evidence that the Clerk swayed the jury. None. The supposed evidence is a direct result of 2 jurors who are assumed what was occurring. Social Media and Internet geniuses have blown this up out of proportion. This smells of Alec and his gift of grifting people and they never see a dime of their money. As we speak, the Satterfield sons are being dragged through the mud. I won’t wait for you to digest information above your intelligence. Good day

​@@5paces164yes. He deserves a fair trial. If all it takes for someone to NOT qualify for a fair trial is for them to be unlikable.... well then nobody deserves a fair trial just let the state lock up anyone for any reason comrade.

@@Tinmann_77 interesting. You’re making the assumption that Alex didn’t receive a fair trial. What are your facts? We have yet to get the allegations to stand up to scrutiny in the courts. Until proven otherwise, he’s been found guilty by a jury of his peers and the verdict stands. The document is full of allegations that mean nothing. The juror can wear whatever he wants whenever he wants. The Egg Lady was not removed because of the Facebook Post that actually did occur. She was dismissed for discussing the case with her tenants. She admitted to talking about the case. This is factual. Poot is extremely good at taking comments out of context and swaying public opinions. These too are facts. Not even his attorneys asserted that Alex was found guilty because he was unlikeable. This is an interesting assumption on your part. It’s evident that he was well liked because the witnesses said so during the trial. Even the Judge stated that Alex was well regarded. It’s unnecessary to attack someone and try to discredit the entire judicial system because you disagree. Enjoy your day. I’m out

Conversely, proven fabrications by defense should result in law license suspensions

​@@Maydinnyno one is fabricating. That is absurd.

@@T3361t I’m just saying it goes both ways. We’ll soon find out.

It happens every day.

No, that’s not why he was found guilty. He was convicted on plenty of evidence. His inconsistency stories of that night, testimonies of the house keepers, etc. Dick and Jim have made these things against Becky much more than what they are.

Melody. I agree with you.

Right you are! The Prosecution's BASIC lie is the time of death. I wrote before and will write it again for you: I am an MD with specialized experience in Pathology though I am NOT a board-certified forensic pathologist. I base my SCIENTIFIC estimate of the time of death on the victims' stomach contents KNOWING the almost exact time of their last meal, its contents and amounts. The time of death is closer to 10:00 pm than to 9:00 pm. The other crucial thing Becky Hill and the jurors "communicated with [their] eyes" about is a FALLACY from the internet, which jurors SHOULD NOT HAVE WATCHED, but did, during trial, is that Alex Murdaugh ("AM") fell backward like a cardboard cutout at the feed-room door. REAL live HUMAN BEINGS do NOT fall backwards straight. They have arm-stretch reflexes, recoil reflexes, righting reflexes, all of which would have dropped the gun from the first shooter's hand IF it had been AM.

@@paulaeppley3569, ​ NO! The Prosecution's BASIC lie is the time of death. I wrote before and will write it again for you: I am an MD with specialized experience in Pathology though I am NOT a board-certified forensic pathologist. I base my SCIENTIFIC estimate of the time of death on the victims' stomach contents KNOWING the almost exact time of their last meal, its contents and amounts. The time of death is closer to 10:00 pm than to 9:00 pm. The other crucial thing Becky Hill and the jurors "communicated with [their] eyes" about is a FALLACY from the internet, which jurors SHOULD NOT HAVE WATCHED, but did, during trial, is that Alex Murdaugh ("AM") fell backward like a cardboard cutout at the feed-room door. REAL live HUMAN BEINGS do NOT fall backwards straight. They have arm-stretch reflexes, recoil reflexes, righting reflexes, all of which would have dropped the gun from the first shooter's hand IF it had been AM.

it's a bit different to direct someone to the toilet than it is to influence a jury's verdict

The juror was dismissed because she to talked to her renters over the weekend while delivering them a refrigerator about the trial Judge Newman interviewed the renters He also told the juror this her dismissal was not because of email

@@Sylvia1962, ​ not exactly. The renters "waffled" to Judge Newman! Also, Alex is innocent OF THE MURDERS. The Prosecution's BASIC lie is the time of death. I wrote before and will write it again for you: I am an MD with specialized experience in Pathology though I am NOT a board-certified forensic pathologist. I base my SCIENTIFIC estimate of the time of death on the victims' stomach contents KNOWING the almost exact time of their last meal, its contents and amounts. The time of death is closer to 10:00 pm than to 9:00 pm. The other crucial thing Becky Hill and the jurors "communicated with [their] eyes" about is a FALLACY from the internet, which jurors SHOULD NOT HAVE WATCHED, but did, during trial, is that Alex Murdaugh ("AM") fell backward like a cardboard cutout at the feed-room door. REAL live HUMAN BEINGS do NOT fall backwards straight. They have arm-stretch reflexes, recoil reflexes, righting reflexes, all of which would have dropped the gun from the first shooter's hand IF it had been AM.

Asking the right questions over here!

It just shows the continued corruption by SLED

*Again Alex was a prosecutor, he investigated crimes.* _The chief/s testified that they didn't authorize him to have the lights on his vehicle, although installed by the police mechanic, that all law enforcement vehicles in the county would go to for lights. He had a badge because he was a sworn solicitor for the 14th circuit solicitor's office, he was law enforcement._ *_Did you watch the trial?_*

​@@changeminds2736you think the mechanic at the pd is going to install police lights on a personal vehicle without his sup approving it? You think the sup is going to risk his job without getting the OK from the police chief?

​@@changeminds2736 he wasn't a prosecutor. Did YOU watch the trial.

​The Prosecution's BASIC lie is the time of death. I wrote before and will write it again for you: I am an MD with specialized experience in Pathology though I am NOT a board-certified forensic pathologist. I base my SCIENTIFIC estimate of the time of death on the victims' stomach contents KNOWING the almost exact time of their last meal, its contents and amounts. The time of death is closer to 10:00 pm than to 9:00 pm. The other crucial thing Becky Hill and the jurors "communicated with [their] eyes" about is a FALLACY from the internet, which jurors SHOULD NOT HAVE WATCHED, but did, during trial, is that Alex Murdaugh ("AM") fell backward like a cardboard cutout at the feed-room door. REAL live HUMAN BEINGS do NOT fall backwards straight. They have arm-stretch reflexes, recoil reflexes, righting reflexes, all of which would have dropped the gun from the first shooter's hand IF it had been AM.

If it's proven an officer of the court tampered with the jury.... he should get a new trial even if nothing else is proven (fun fact the judge already admitted Becky tampered with the jury by having inappropriate convos with them so.....) and the court officer should be immediately fired and charged.

so he was wrongfully convicted then ?

@stellahead Not necessarily. He could have done it. I don't think the state proved he did it. They proved he is a horrible person. That's just my opinion.

@@poisonousparadox2971 "miscarriage of justice" -

@@stellahead I think you guys are agreeing with each other lol

Evidentiary hearing? Definitely Becky Hill still has a job? Sad Day.

@@jayneroberson-blume804 lol no I wasn't in the room but I did read their affidavits. Did I offend you that you are slowly d----ing by smoking? Some people just don't have good willpower . I actually think Murdaugh is guilty, however he needs to be convicted lawfully. This isn't even an appeal yet, this is a problem with the original trial not a misstep by either the prosecutor, the judge or the defense attorneys. P.S. See how long you can go without a cigarette before you respond.

@@jayneroberson-blume804 You said. "What does that say about people as human beings especially when Alex was right there during the jury selection process?" *Hmmm well, it says that they didn't ask the questions.* - _"What would you do for a cigarette?"_ - _"If you are not allowed to have cigarette breaks during deliberations would you make the right choice?"_ - _"Would you do anything for a cigarette?"_

@@changeminds2736 why are you assuming shit ? #fingerpointingmuch

Agreed. More than just being fired, if these allegations are proven, I think she should be arrested; jury tampering is a crime, right?

@@CMpuffin, absolutely! The Prosecution's BASIC lie is the time of death. I wrote before and will write it again for you: I am an MD with specialized experience in Pathology though I am NOT a board-certified forensic pathologist. I base my SCIENTIFIC estimate of the time of death on the victims' stomach contents KNOWING the almost exact time of their last meal, its contents and amounts. The time of death is closer to 10:00 pm than to 9:00 pm. The other crucial thing Becky Hill and the jurors "communicated with [their] eyes" about is a FALLACY from the internet, which jurors SHOULD NOT HAVE WATCHED, but did, during trial, is that Alex Murdaugh ("AM") fell backward like a cardboard cutout at the feed-room door. REAL live HUMAN BEINGS do NOT fall backwards straight. They have arm-stretch reflexes, recoil reflexes, righting reflexes, all of which would have dropped the gun from the first shooter's hand IF it had been AM.

I have several times read that juries are composed of people who are too stupid to get out of jury duty.

The defense lawyers had plenty of news conferences but not about any of the allegations of clerk misconduct. Don’t know what you’re on about.

Nothing has been confirmed yet. Geez

​@@shellytompkins7254it's in the court record so yes it has been confirmed. And no. Like most officers of the court that work for the gov she has not and likely will not be punished.

I have a hard time working up any sympathy for Miss Becky. She abused her position it appears.

@@theShamrockShepherdWagon I entirely agree with you. She brought this on herself, by her unethical actions.

@@theShamrockShepherdWagonI can’t help but wonder if this compromises any other hearings she may have been evolved in.

@@theShamrockShepherdWagon, absolutely! The Prosecution's BASIC lie is the time of death. I wrote before and will write it again for you: I am an MD with specialized experience in Pathology though I am NOT a board-certified forensic pathologist. I base my SCIENTIFIC estimate of the time of death on the victims' stomach contents KNOWING the almost exact time of their last meal, its contents and amounts. The time of death is closer to 10:00 pm than to 9:00 pm. The other crucial thing Becky Hill and the jurors "communicated with [their] eyes" about is a FALLACY from the internet, which jurors SHOULD NOT HAVE WATCHED, but did, during trial, is that Alex Murdaugh ("AM") fell backward like a cardboard cutout at the feed-room door. REAL live HUMAN BEINGS do NOT fall backwards straight. They have arm-stretch reflexes, recoil reflexes, righting reflexes, all of which would have dropped the gun from the first shooter's hand IF it had been AM.

@@twoandtwo4, absolutely! The Prosecution's BASIC lie is the time of death. I wrote before and will write it again for you: I am an MD with specialized experience in Pathology though I am NOT a board-certified forensic pathologist. I base my SCIENTIFIC estimate of the time of death on the victims' stomach contents KNOWING the almost exact time of their last meal, its contents and amounts. The time of death is closer to 10:00 pm than to 9:00 pm. The other crucial thing Becky Hill and the jurors "communicated with [their] eyes" about is a FALLACY from the internet, which jurors SHOULD NOT HAVE WATCHED, but did, during trial, is that Alex Murdaugh ("AM") fell backward like a cardboard cutout at the feed-room door. REAL live HUMAN BEINGS do NOT fall backwards straight. They have arm-stretch reflexes, recoil reflexes, righting reflexes, all of which would have dropped the gun from the first shooter's hand IF it had been AM.

They said they heard some vague rumors, of the type that come during any famous trial. They didn’t have specifics. You can’t go to the judge without something more substantial than vague gossip.

Agree if the defence knew and saw,they should have said something there and then.

The State the defense and the Judge met over the egg lady and the emails why did Hoot and Poot let it slide?

@@Debra711 The meeting was only about the FB thing & Egg Lady’s tenants. Hoot objected in the meeting & again in open court. The defence didn’t learn anything solid until AFTER the verdict. You can’t go to the judge based on courthouse whispers & rumors. That’s all they had until the jurors themselves came forward.

@@marythomas1198, NO! The Prosecution's BASIC lie is the time of death. I wrote before and will write it again for you: I am an MD with specialized experience in Pathology though I am NOT a board-certified forensic pathologist. I base my SCIENTIFIC estimate of the time of death on the victims' stomach contents KNOWING the almost exact time of their last meal, its contents and amounts. The time of death is closer to 10:00 pm than to 9:00 pm. The other crucial thing Becky Hill and the jurors "communicated with [their] eyes" about is a FALLACY from the internet, which jurors SHOULD NOT HAVE WATCHED, but did, during trial, is that Alex Murdaugh ("AM") fell backward like a cardboard cutout at the feed-room door. REAL live HUMAN BEINGS do NOT fall backwards straight. They have arm-stretch reflexes, recoil reflexes, righting reflexes, all of which would have dropped the gun from the first shooter's hand IF it had been AM.

I’m with you!

I think it was the other way around. The more common practice is for the jury to choose. But this judge prefers to choose the foreperson himself. That’s in general, not just gor this trial.

Thank you!

the dynasty hasn't fallen, there's still a living aire to it's throne

@@stellahead True that. It was a poor attempt at a joke on my side, the way they title this type of life stories.

Why bother with a hearing if you'd never be OK with a new trial, no matter what?

Good point

​ Not necessarily! The Prosecution's BASIC lie is the time of death. I wrote before and will write it again for you: I am an MD with specialized experience in Pathology though I am NOT a board-certified forensic pathologist. I base my SCIENTIFIC estimate of the time of death on the victims' stomach contents KNOWING the almost exact time of their last meal, its contents and amounts. The time of death is closer to 10:00 pm than to 9:00 pm. The other crucial thing Becky Hill and the jurors "communicated with [their] eyes" about is a FALLACY from the internet, which jurors SHOULD NOT HAVE WATCHED, but did, during trial, is that Alex Murdaugh ("AM") fell backward like a cardboard cutout at the feed-room door. REAL live HUMAN BEINGS do NOT fall backwards straight. They have arm-stretch reflexes, recoil reflexes, righting reflexes, all of which would have dropped the gun from the first shooter's hand IF it had been AM.

I’m with you!

A hearing is all that is warranted At this point nothing has been proven

@@Sylvia1962 , you are mistaken. There are at least four corroborating witnesses; it HAS been proven... just need the formal investigation. What we KNOW at this point is that MS Becky is going to jail, and Alex is getting a new trial... its just a matter of time now. marcus

Absolutely! The Prosecution's BASIC lie is the time of death. I wrote before and will write it again for you: I am an MD with specialized experience in Pathology though I am NOT a board-certified forensic pathologist. I base my SCIENTIFIC estimate of the time of death on the victims' stomach contents KNOWING the almost exact time of their last meal, its contents and amounts. The time of death is closer to 10:00 pm than to 9:00 pm. The other crucial thing Becky Hill and the jurors "communicated with [their] eyes" about is a FALLACY from the internet, which jurors SHOULD NOT HAVE WATCHED, but did, during trial, is that Alex Murdaugh ("AM") fell backward like a cardboard cutout at the feed-room door. REAL live HUMAN BEINGS do NOT fall backwards straight. They have arm-stretch reflexes, recoil reflexes, righting reflexes, all of which would have dropped the gun from the first shooter's hand IF it had been AM.