During this game in particular (if you breathe on Patrick, it was a foul) - this is my first time seeing this many weak ass fouls called in Madison Square Garden - the refs normally use to let the Big Men bump and grind in New York - MJ23 G.O.A.T. not Queen James
Guys like Barkley, Glenn Robinson, Corlison Williamson, Vinn Baker, Larry Johnson ((undersized work horses down low in the paint, but could step back and knock down a jumper also) - Corlison Williamson was my favorite College Basketball player but he gained weight when he got to the NBA - Larry Johnson also - but nobody could stop Larry at UNLV , Corlison at Arkansas, and Glenn Robinson at Purdue - Shane Battie was that type of player at Duke also (unstoppable) - dam I miss Real Grown Man Basketball from the late 80s throughout the 90s
Hands down ! The guys where playing hard every nigth ! Sometimes i feel bad for the new generation fans who believe that today nba is the Best thing...
This season most considered the knicks as the best team in the nba. Slightly ahead of the 2X defending champs Bulls. Ewing was still widely considered the best center of the time. Next season in 1994 Hakeem closed all best centers debates.
I loved Patrick Ewing. He was my guy. But he only made first team all NBA once in 1990. Both Hakeem Olajuwon and David Robinson were routinely making the first team over Patrick.
@dbreiden83080 I'm on the same page. Big Ewing fan. But it was genuinely seen as a 'big three' until Hakeem broke the debate. Ewing was very consistently in top 5 MVP voting too and generally on All NBA 2nds a lot. Interestingly, Olajuwon did not make any All NBA team in the year prior to this (1992) and was nowhere in MVP voting. Can't recall why... Daugherty was balling, but maybe also Hakeem contract hold out?
@@paksta Knicks did NOT do right by Patrick. They had good teams but he never had that consistent number 2 scoring option. The teams had to rely on tough physical D and a lot of low scoring games in which Ewing had to go for 25/12. It was never enough..
@dbreiden83080 I dunno. At the start of this season, they had from memory Charles Smith, Charles Oakley, Anthony Mason, Ro Blackman, Derek Harper, John Starks, Doc Rivers. Can't remember if Greg Anthony and Hubert Davis arrived that year. I remember being blown away by what they'd put together. They went 2-0 up on the Bulls and were the victim of one of the most ridiculous defensive plays ever in G5. And then the next year, they were one shot away from the title and again(!) the victim of one of history's most ridiculous defensive plays. And they had a great shot in G7, but Starks was cold and they didn't use any of their other guards. Pity. If they gave Riley the sort of control Miami gave him, they could have kept up this standard too.
@@paksta You just named a whole bunch of role players. Seriously. At the end the day it comes down to who is your Robin to the Batman? Scottie Pippen was that guy. He was incredible. People love to drool all over Michael Jordan as this God like athlete. At the end of the day in the eastern conference, he had the best running mate and it’s not even close. It’s not remotely close.
I don’t give a flying fuck what anyone says if I’m building a team Barkley is my power forward. No matter who you mention. At 6’ 4 or 6’ 6” (regardless what height you believe) he was very undersized and ran the league in that position
he was pretty agile. he used to back weaker players down in that post but against Oak and Mase he usually used his quickness, agility, footwork, and well skill. I think Mase used to guard him better than Oakley since Mase was more agile.. Mase was a better on ball defender and more versatile, but Oak was a better post and help defender. Mase could defend the post too, as he often guarded Olajuwan and others.. even Shaq
@@1990758 yea they were. The made him into a jump shooter. He DIDNT back them down like he did to MOST defenders. Go watch the footage of when Barkley was with the suns. He faced BOTH mason AND Oakley. The footage is thete
@@soramirez5473 I don't have to go watch anything. I know everything about barkley. He was on my team the seventy sixers. I've been watching the game sincere early sixties. If someone does not know how good He was their knowledge of basketball leave much to be desired.
CB34! Ahead of his time, would be a dominant small ball big in this era. He was an under-rated passer, three-point shooter, and ball handler. Under-sized board crusher, prolific scorer and a fierce competitor. I'll take this guy over three Draymond Greens without blinking. CB34 was a super star maaaan!
93’ Ewing was still healthy with no foot problems, Starks was balling, mason and Oakley were absolute THUGS and I loved every second of it. Just couldn’t quite get over the hump, year after year they came SO close. A few of those losses were BRUTAL! Reggie, MJ, the Miami Heat😂, we had a lot of enemies it seemed.
Two of the top MVP candidates of the season go at it at the Garden... After this game, Chuck clearly disgusted with the lack non foul call at the end of the game
The return match at Phoenix turned uglier as both teams got into an all-out brawl at halftime which saw several players from both teams being tossed and suspended.
Paradoxically, the best measure of PHX depth was that they traded one all-star Hornack and two very good role players: Lang and Perry for Barkley, and YET remained talented and deep, and could achieve IMMEDIATE success in the 92/93 season. Barkley at first planned to be traded from Philly to Portland, but who the then Blazers could trade in exchange for Barkley and STILL REMAIN potent and deep like the Suns???
I know it's cliche to say it but 90's basketball had a different level of intensity, when you see the way they box out, how they fought for rebounds, even the way they handle the ball it's a different level of aggresiveness and intensity.
absolutely agree. I don't like the showbiz atmosphere of the game today, back then every game is a war. I think the players nowadays are still better skill-wise, but 90's basketball were must-see and made me anticipate every game.
A few things... -This would have been an interesting Finals matchup if the Bulls hadn't made it. -Barkley was a better shot blocker than most people realized. -It didn't take long for Oakley & Barkley to get into it lol. -People forget Tom Chambers was on this Suns team. He was a former all star that who had averaged 27 a few years prior. When he took at least 15 shots, he averaged at least 20+. -Richard Dumas was probably the most underrated player on Phoenix but he couldn't stay away from banned substances. He wasted his talent.
All is perfect a pure Time Capsule 1993 was a beautifull NBA year Barkley was strong , knicks had a beautifull Tean Mason ewing smith oakley straks. I love this END barkley upseted lol the mc enroe of the basket
idk why Suns coach put Tom Chambers -- a scorer (27 ppg) and not a defender -- , to guard Patrick Ewing, one of the best & strong center in that era. and Tom Chambers sacrificed himself by accepting that role.
i loved when the Knicks played the western conference back then. teams like the Suns, Sonics, Jazz, Rockets etc. Good games. Why was Barkley jumping over the scorer's table and running after someone?
people keep saying zion is similar to chuck, nah not even close. zion might be able to do some fancy dunking, chuck had as many dunks but over people not dunking alone when no one trying to block his shot. and chuck low post game is just amazing, the foot work, the moves, the mid range and the power to be able to score inside against way bigger and taller than him. he's 6'4" playing pf agains guys who were 6'9" , 245 lbs at least.
@@Milehigh_ I think that the Suns would have won that hypothetical Finals series. Although, it would have been a little higher scoring, as the Suns had a better offense than the Rockets.
Oakley swore he was more than he was… Anthony Mason was the best Knicks enforcer btw lmfaoo bro was just running and occasionally grabbing a rebound or 2. But if Bark just had ONE chip he’d be considered a top 3 PF all time..
