My brother cheated…so my whole family cut him off! | Reddit Stories 

I have no clue how you guys think the first op is the ahole. Op's brother deserves no sympathy and their family made the right choice.

Story 1: “oh, I made the worst mistake of my life. I messed up so bad. Btw, my affair partner I consider the worst mistake of my life wants to meet you guys. 😊” No, screw the brother. He’s just saying what he thinks people want to hear to get back in good graces. He doesn’t regret anything and it’s no one’s responsibility besides the Cheater’s to be held accountable.

You guys really gotta get this idea that being family means they deserve leniencyfor being trash people. They are peope just like everyone else, and if your going to break the trust your family has in you and show youre not a good person they deserve to be ostracized

He’s blaming Cindy for blowing up his life and relationship with Emma. A relationship he didn’t actually want. He doesn’t take any responsibility from his actions and if the family caves they just co-signed what he did was fine.

Emma dodged a bullet, she is now free to find someone better.

Regarding the allergy story: even if OP HAD an epi pen, she still would have had to go to the hospital. That's one thing they taught me when I was prescribed an epi pen. It's not a magic cure-all. You might need more treatment than the epi pen can provide. The epi pen is just to keep you alive so that you can get to the hospital for further treatment and monitoring

For the allergy story, her sister literally poisoned her. The only difference is not every will die from that poison. Allergies are real and that person can literally suffocate due to the reaction.

Even if you are family or friends with a cheater, in my eyes, that means you have to be harsher on them and call them out for the shitty things that they do, even if it's not cheating if they do something wrong, a true friend or family member would call them out and not let them get away with bad behavior.

The first story. I think the parents cut themselves off with their son due to his attitude more than the cheating. The cheating was probably the last straw.

Y’all really gotta get over the idea that family excuses behaviour. I wouldn’t want to associate with a cheater either, even if he was my brother. I don’t want to be associated with someone who ruined a poor woman’s life and tried to weasel his affair partner into the family. If someone is quick to backstab their fiancé/fiancée, they’ll backstab you.

Nta you don't need to surround yourself with people that you don't have the same morals with

I'm early lol. Been listening to John and Sam back when they were still at a few thousand subscribers. Now, I'm really glad how big the channel got and having Riley and Sophia onboard. You guys help me wash dishes without getting bored for years now. 🤣

I dont know. I have values, and I expect my family to have those values. And if they don't have those values, in some cases its Okay but when it become morally wrong. Its disgusting. If my brother cheated on his partner, I would also not talk to him. Especially with how our father was. When he's seen the hurt our mother has gone through.

Last story MASSIVE EDIT AND UPDATE: "some people have asked if there is an issue in the families, but I honestly can't think of one, we have all known my sister boyfriend and his family for the over 6 years they have been on and off dating, unless there's something that I don't know about I can't think why this has become an issue. Also some people have asked why she even wants a gender reveal and agree they are cringey, and for that I do have an answer and it may be a bit sappy, my sister called me again today after I had already posted here and has gotten to the point she just wants to cancel everything becasue the whole party (that she was planning) has been taken out of her hands, however in tears she explained to me she really wanted our mother to be there becasue of her rapidly declining vision, our mother had been loosing her sight for the last thew years and even tried a new eye surgery to try and get some of her vision back, it worked for a while but now it's gotten worse to the point she can only see clearly out of the corner of her eyes, and so my sister wanted my mother to be there for the party and to see the cannon go off before anything else happens to her vision. Another thing is asking about how many people we wanted to go to the reveal and that wasn't in our hands, my sister asked us all (me, my baby, our mother, brothers and stepdad) if we would go to the party and support her and we all agreed, then my sister asked if she should invit anyone else from out family as it was mainly going to be his family and friends and my mother suggested our 2 aunties but explained it was totally up to my sister since it was her party. So we would have had 8 people from our family where as my sister told me there would be 14 people from his family and 4 of his friends (yes his parents told her she couldn't invit any of her friends). It got to the point I offered yet again to stay home with all 3 boys (mine and our brothers) so it would just be 4 people from our family going and my sister said she would have to ask her boyfriends parents. My sister told me she's so stressed out and at the point of returning everything she bought but it's all at her boyfriends house and he's told her he's keeping it there. And one more thing they were going to give my mother the envelope with the gender to hold on to (since she can't physically read it and she would keep it safe in a locked box) but on the day she was going to bring it her boyfriends mother took the envelope out of her hands and told her she won't be bringing it to our mother as she didn't trust my sister (the baby's mother!) To not look at the gender on the way to out house and now apparently her boyfriends mother and father have the envelope and she worried they'll look and tell her boyfriend. UPDATE: my sister went over to her boyfriend house today and spoke with his parents, turns out some of you were right, the boyfriend has been spewing nonsense to his mother, saying that my sister wanted to invite 30 people (again she's only wanted 8) and that apparently my sister is to stressed to host (that's why he started to invite his friends as well when it was determined to be a family only event) his mother has also confirmed that there will be no alcohol at the event and demanded that boyfriend will be helping with the clean up, no questions asked. We (her family) have all been personally invited by boyfriends parents and my sister and thing will hopefully be turning around from here Another thing is that my sister is current living in a 1 bedroom flat and that's why she can't have the party at her place, that's why it was decided to have it at boyfriends house. Thankyou to everyone for the comments, there are simply to many to respond to but I'm trying my best. "

He had the audacity to propose then cheat. It’s like stealing a sister from them so it does affect them. Meeting the new girl is craziness. It’s a no. I no longer feel how I once felt about you now.

I don't understand how OP in the first story could possibly be the A-hole. Also the family is absolutely not required to keep including the brother to "hold him accountable so he doesn't do more of it in the future"!???? More what? More cheating? He already did that while having his family and doesn't recognize it as wrong. Breaking off/cooling down contact with him IS holding him accountable. You absolutely never have to surround yourself with people whose morals and actions you vehemently disagree with. And especially not in the hopes so you can do the emotional work of 'holding them accountable'. Tbh I think OP's family cutting the brother off is absolutely admirable. Blood-relation doesn't mean free pass to be a POS with no consequences.

To answer the question at 34:43 essentially once charges are bought to the court system whether the criminal charge goes forward or not depends entirely on the prosecutor. While the prosecutor should keep the opinion of the victim in mind, they are usually under no obligation to follow what the victim wants. This means once criminal charges are brough they might be stuck proceeding. Often times the victim needs to be the one to testify so if the victim is flakey on wanting to tell the truth that really impacts that case.

if youre not mindful of the company you keep, you may find yourself destroyed in the process. sam and John are far too forgiving. i really hope that doesn't come & bite them in the derrière one day I love the Dexter angle as his sister's life was ruined because she didn't do the "right" thing that her morals called for. Dont get me started on his wife. if you're not mindful....

Last story is awful. Shes gonna be trapped with a man child who doesn't value to women carrying his child. She needs to leave him she deserves way better.

The pregnant sister really needs to break up with with her controlling boyfriend. That relationship and his family suck. She’s already a single mom.

I don’t know why you cut out all the John trying to figure out how to work the stuff there was so much more😂 luv ya guys

I have 2 sisters. 1 I would never cut out, no matter what and the other I've cut out before and likely will have to again. She's not a full sociopath, but she is manipulative, delusional (clinically) and has anger issues. She didn't suddenly become that way either. She always has been. It's easier than you think when there isn't a good relationship to start with

I disagree with your takes on the first story. I'm kinda like the sister in the update. If someone I'm close with cheats, it shatters the way I see them. I no longer see them just as the funny or caring or whatever person they were before. I see them as a traitor. And if they can do something like this to the person they were going to marry, what other horrible things could they do. Even without considering that idea, people who behave that way aren't the kind of people I want to have in my life. Not to mention, even though he didn't victimize his sister or family directly like he did his fiance, he did ruin more than just his own relationship, as everyone else that was getting close with their would-be in-law now has no contact with her. It's not completely unforgivable (unless they show no remorse or continue to act shitty in other ways like the brother in this story) but I would definitely need at least a four-month break from that person, maybe more depending on the details. It's not only about punishing them (though for me that is part of it). It's also about giving yourself time to come to terms with a new facet of reality, and getting back in the headspace where you can develop a new normal and a new relationship with this person whilst keeping that facet in mind. ETA: Keep in mind blood bonds admittedly don't carry a ton of weight with me. I'm very much a "blood doesn't make you family" kind of person. I'm more likely to keep around a relative than a platonic if we're close, but I'll keep a close platonic over a not so close relative. So sibling or not, if you do something this fucked up, you're going in timeout. If anything, I hold relatives to higher standards than other people because they get first dibs, so to speak.

Emma dodged a bullet.

Sam thinking a gender cannon is literally like a war cannon and being so shocked is cracking me up. It’s probably just one of those tube poppers that blow out smoke or confetti 😆

Story 1: OP isn’t the asshole; the cheating brother is the asshole. There has to be consequences for shitty life decisions. It’s not like they are cutting him off for life, but he ruined a family and broke a marriage. There should be consequences for it. Especially if the family had invested their own time and money in planning the wedding that’s now cancelled

Heck no. If my son, who I birthed and broke my back to raise, treated TWO women like this? I wouldn’t only cut contact, I’d encourage my entire family to do the same and then I’d write him out of my will.

Sam talking about his sister on this is the first time I thought he may not be a total fuck boy.

13:32 I personally don't think OP is the AH for going no contact at least at for this time, I think it's fair not to contact the brother for some time before rekindling the relationship. If he then admits that he was a bad person and OP still doesn't talk to him then she might be the AH.

Look, even if the family member didn't do stuff to you specifically that doesn't mean your bad for cutting them out for being a shitty person. You don't have to keep someone in your life because you happen to be related, plus it's not your responsibility to hold them accountable for things or be an emotional coach for a grown adult.

“What if she strikes again ?” Ayyyoooo 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣idk why that line took me out

Imo the first story was obvious NTA?? Going low contact with a family member that doesn’t share your molar code is pretty normal thing. Especially if they had bonded with the fiancé!!

Story 1- cheating is cheating… despicable!

I was allergic to Oranges, my in-laws didn't believe it until I had full body hives from a tangerine shampoo. It was made with organg oil, then they started to believe it. Now after being pregnant I'm no longer allergic. Weird but true.

In the last story the "baby daddy" is full of it. He thinks his family are the only ones who count. The mom to be should put her feet down and walk away before she gets stuck for life.

That is devoid of empathy, and unable to take responsibility for his OWN situation.

It took 39yrs for my doctor to prescribe me an EpiPen. So much fun.

The cheating brother do not have empathy for anyone but himself. He is massively SHELFISH . He may be as asshole to one of the family members as he was to his girl friends

Yall done shit the bed on this one. Op is in no way the asshole.😂

I would file a report and then a lawyer .. the sister should be financially responsible for This 2 day hospital stay !

I'm of the opinion that if you can cheat on your partner like that, you can and will betray your closest friends and family. You're willing to fuck over anyone just for yourself and I will have no part of that. OP is NTA

She is correct you can not always get an epi pen. Received a script for an epi pen and it cost $600 before insurance (this was a few years ago, we were told the cost was the actual pen mechanism and that the patent should run out in years to come), the pen was only good for 12 to 18 months and none of our doctors will give a new script, we were told to keep chewable pepcid and liquid or chewable benadryl with us at all times.

Allergies are weird. Sometimes they dont seem like they make sense. Dairy allergies can be crazy, like cant drink milk but can eat butter, or cant eat cheese but can eat yogurt.

If someone poisons your food with a known allergen, then deserve jail time.

Nooo! Matt is such a terrible person. He does need therapy to maybe learn how to treat women with respect before attempting anymore relationships.

My sister and I are are estranged and I don't know why. I have tried to find out why because the last thing I would want to do is hurt her or anyone in any way and to see about making amends. My parents talked to her about it but never got anywhere either. My dad died 8 years ago and we were already estranged so I dare say it's been over a decade. It pains me everyday and I have shed countless hours of tears over our shattered relationship. It touches my heart and at the same time makes me ache that the op crew is so kind. I know what the quote triggering event" was but even I know it's never that simple and I apologized profusely. I went to a holiday gathering when I should have stayed home. I could go into my reasoning but for the most part it boils down to. I love my family and wanted to see them desperately but I was feeling poorly. I have been disabled since I was 25 years old so that is not uncommon. I was hit by a car on foot while running and I had undiagnosed EDS. You can imagine what the outcome of that might look like. A connective tissue disease Plus a major trauma equals bad news. I fell asleep at the dinner table. She was concerned that it would scare her children or that it scared her children. I can acknowledge that concern and I wouldn't want to traumatize them in any way. Again, I should have stayed home. Instead of being left out for another family gathering due to my illness, I have since been left out of basically all the family gatherings. I tried to Host a holiday at my apartment over the holiday season and I had hope for the first time that we might repair our relationship. She accepted an invite to get together sometime but it has never happened. I turned 50 and she didn't even wish me a happy birthday this year. I will never let her know how badly this estrangement has hurt me. I have spent a lot of time thinking of suicide. I had to stop writing and turned into a s after hearing him actually bring up a brain injury. I had a brain injury in 2010 and that factored into why I fell asleep at the dinner table. It was my second major head trauma. I couldn't remember things from one day to the next. It was really awful. I'm missing her today really badly and her birthday is in A matter of days. I have a second grandbaby on the way and she has seemed the first I have once in the NICU. My health is really bad right now and I had a close call she doesn't know Before I close my mouth I want to say that she is a wonderful person. She is an amazing wife mother and teacher. She's active in the community and beloved by everyone who knows her. I do completely blame myself but I just don't know what I did. She also doesn't know that I have been diagnosed as being on the autism spectrum and I'm sure there are things related to that that have played a role as well. For that matter, all this medical crap has played a role. I wish I could go back to August 6th of 1999 for that matter the morning of the 7th and not go for that run. I wish I didn't have the head injury in 2010. Most of all I wish I had n't heard her or the kids in some way. Her son, my nephew flattered ass me why I hate him why I hate them and I told them that I didn't and he wanted to know why I wasn't around. He was a young kid at that point and all I told him was that he would have to talk to his mother about that. He is just a phenomenal guy. She has raised great kids. I'm the problem now. I just want to be able to fix it or go away forever

There are updates on the story 3 if anyone wants to read it. This is the update: my sister went over to her boyfriend house today and spoke with his parents, turns out some of you were right, the boyfriend has been spewing nonsense to his mother, saying that my sister wanted to invite 30 people (again she's only wanted 8) and that apparently my sister is to stressed to host (that's why he started to invite his friends as well when it was determined to be a family only event) his mother has also confirmed that there will be no alcohol at the event and demanded that boyfriend will be helping with the clean up, no questions asked. We (her family) have all been personally invited by boyfriends parents and my sister and thing will hopefully be turning around from here

five year age difference: wow almost 10 year difference short, concise story: man this needs a tldr bruh

him calling her smalltime is crazy LMFAOO its very odd

John, as a dedicated Scientologist, Tom Cruise will not be going to any legitimate doctor. 😂 He did marry Katie Holmes, she then divorced Tom. He has abandoned their daughter & she has changed her last name so as not to be connected to him. A very sad story.

Story 1: I can't agree that OP is TA here, but for reasons beyond just the brother's cheating. The brother is untrustworthy, doesn't learn from his choices, and refuses to accept accountability. You can love someone and still think they are too much of a risk to be around. I would cut him off too, though I would tell him he needs to take more time and learn to accept that his behavior and attitude are spoiled, entitled, and harmful. I would probably tell him we can meet in 6 months or so and revisit contact if he has figured out why everyone is avoiding him and what he needs to change in his life to rebuild their trust and his reputation.

Story 1 is one of those -just because I love you doesn’t mean I like you- type situations

I have seafood, shellfish, and some fruit allergies. Dr won't prescribe an epi-pen because "they're easy enough to avoid" and mine isn't life threatening. Not all allergy havers are given prescriptions

I would not automatically cut someone off for cheating. I think it really depends on the situation and their overall character. One might distance themselves for a period of time, but to permanently ex-communicate a family member over a situation that does not directly involve oneself seems extreme. Excommunication is one of the the worst thing you can do to a family member, and there are definitely reasons to do it, but I would personally reserve that type of punishment for something I would consider more severe, such as abuse or if that person targeted me in some way. Their cheating might affect our relationship negatively, but I just couldn’t completely cut someone off.

First story it sounds like the brother was horny and attracted to Cindy and did not care about hurting anyone, so selfishly slept with Cindy and then when he was found out and dumped by Emma, he didn’t want to be alone so he just stayed with Cindy even though he clearly doesn’t care about her either

34:59 my ex was abusive and when I finally realized he may one day kill me, I called the cops…it was soon out of my hands and in the hands of the DA.

It’s not your job to keep someone else accountable and staying in a relationship for that alone sounds awful. And keeping a relationship just because you’re family can lead to some horrible situations and mental states. I would totally end the relationship with any of my siblings, would they cheat, cause not only is the action itself damaging but it says a lot about a person’s character.

Strongly disagree with the first op being the ah for going no contact with the cheating brother. He did the right thing bit in the meanest way possible. He does need therapy. Someonetimes cutting off family members is the best thing to do.

I’m allergic to exclusively shrimp in the shell fish family, but apparently they produce a specific iodine. It’s a serious reaction that can hospitalize me. I also happen to be allergic to milk (not lactose intolerant), but I still gamble on dairy products. Now I’m starting to have more problems though not extreme, so I’ll have to be more careful in the future.

I loveeee your show, thank you for uploading 🤍

My seafood allergies are the same way can’t eat fish but can eat anything that has a shell

For the 1st story. Op is not the ah. Imagine giving birth to a perosn and they come out like that. Parents with morals feel shame for thier horrible children. The parents have every right to not speak to him. If you can call someone the love of your life and treat them like trash than there are no bounds to what they will do to others. Just because someone hasnt hurt you but has hurt others doesnt mean you aren't on the list.

19:47 that would be kind of dumb because no one's getting paid to do that and everyone has their own life and can't just sit there and do this for that amount of time. Plus imagine being at work and getting 17 different calls just so you can give advice on what he should do on a date or just in general for empathy for years because you instilled in him that he doesn't know how to do it so he's going to call you to do it for him because you're coaching his empathy lol

If the sister paid for the gender reveal party....I'm not sure why there are stipulations on who SHE can invite. Ew. 🗑🚮

He probably just got worh cindy because his family cut him off so he had nobody. He probably told her thats why he got with her.

Story 1: its none of my business. Its not my job to even hold them accountable. If they ask my opinion ill give them an honest opinion but other than that im not getting involved. Everyone should stop meddling in his life. He shouldnt even have to offer breaking up with the other girl.

Dexter is a great show!

Allergy story....... yes, you do need a prescription for an epi pen......

Story one : You guys are sooo wrong... if the family accepts it, as in Cindy they are accepting the behavior. What would keep the brother from doing it again when there really are no consequences..

20:52 exactly Sam, your sister Sophia that has a great relationship with and even if she would cheat, she is basically a good person in general. But not every sibling is tge same and probably they are done with Op because this is a reoccurring behavior.

If people are finding a night in the clink out there, imagine if John had said a night in the crowbar motel.

It normal to be allergic to just shell fish but I'm weird I'm allergic to all fish

I don’t think Story 1’s OP is a donkey rear. It isn’t healthy to keep toxic people in your life as it can be draining on your own mental health. The brother needs therapy and OP is not the right choice for a therapist

I found out i was allergic to kiwi but haven't brought it up to my doctor yet. My tongue and lips swell up. I just don't think its that big of a deal. Maybe i should after listening to this

Some girl?!?! Lol

7:31 totally agree Like you should check on your sibling and see like “why”

Whats that sound at 9:57? So random lol

jfc I can't take y'all seriously

23:57 crustaceans and fish are different

0:09 OUCH INDEED

WHATTTT THE TITLEEE

"I don't know anything about anything tho" Idk why that got me but same sam. 😂

No stream today?

so you broke two ppl and think you can walk away and it okkk(p) lol no

Yo Sam. Bad take. Also you say that because you know sophia would never.

19:30 honestly as shitty as it sounds the dude probably needed to say atleast some of what he said to Sydney because he broke up with her and she kept pursuing him. Think about how their relationships started she was engaged to be married, and she was willing, not just if she with him, but to get into a relationship with him after the fact when she got into that relationship with him told her that she didn’t mean anything to him, and Maybe she wasn’t fine with that but she stayed with him and continued pursuing a relationship that I’m sure she knew was gross and toxic. She kept asking him to be more serious and he kept telling her no. She continued stay even though he clearly didn’t care about her. There was a lot of other red flags but when a man tells you that your relationship means nothing to him and that he doesn’t want to be in a serious relationship with you than that’s not a relationship that’s a situationship. He told her at every turn what it was and she kept sticking around. They both clearly need lots of counseling. He treats Cyndi this way because she’s been allowing him to do that. The way he went about things was asshole but at the same time if he doesn’t want serious relationship, he’s entitled to voice that not want to be with someone sucks because it hurts someone’s feelings he’s not an asshole because of it, he’s entitled to be with who he wants to be with and he’s entitled to not be with someone too. You can’t just stay in a relationship with someone you don’t really like because breaking up with them could hurt their feelings that’s weird. Like I said he’s an asshole for cheating and for the way he went about things but he’s not an asshole for breaking up with Sydney or for how he feels. MY JUDGEMENT IS …..THERAPY FOR ALL OF THEM EVEN OP AND THEIR FAMILY .

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I feel bad that they cut him off. Family is family. How sad. People do stupid stuff all the time. Is it really so much. He didn't murder anyone. He just needs to be educated