Of course, it caused controversy-we can't sneeze without causing controversy on RU-vid. If it matters, I thought it was a great video and I thought it was an excellent message. I was actually thinking about beginning to work with them, and when I saw your video, I took it as a clear no from my guides and guardian angel, that I should not, in any circumstances, set my feet upon that path. Perhaps, these people that were so upset, simply were part of the darkness that didn't want you to let go of it. In any case, I thank you and I appreciate you
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Some people just have to learn the hard way, my spirit even though I studied the occult it never felt comfortable with working with demons. There are a few magicians that I follow have also said same thing you said so I know you k know what your talking about
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I love the topics covered on this channel and the work the presenter does. All I can say is the worst demons are the youtube ones - you don't even have to evoke/invoke them but they will appear and interfere with their ignorance and stupidity in the comments section.
Lots of those people are very young people who aren’t even aware of what exactly they’re doing. They’re just following a trend that they heard. They’re also lots of people with lots of pain and mental illness that are just trying to find anything to “help them”
You Are right! Its very interesting movie ! I have never find such truth material on this topic. I was thinking about buying an subliminal audio from a girl WHO practise this kind of magic , but after this video i decided not to buy
I saw your last video- then this one also. I was a "Theistic Satanist" for 10 years. I lived and breathed it and had no problems. But you mentioned something in your other video which is very true. Theistic Satanists think the demons are our friends. The FIRST thing they told me was to stop casting a circle. The demons are supposed to be our friend and how offensive it must be to them to see us casting a circle of protection. OMG. You have no idea what that opened up. I started seeing them everywhere. Just randomly standing in the corner. I'd be on the phone laughing and casually look to my right and one would be sitting next to me on my couch. And it was NEVER in a sweet loving friendly way. What arrogance to think here's me, some stupid human, telling a demon what to do- as if they obey stupid humans??? They have their own agenda!!!!! In the end, everything was dark. I was attracting that energy to me and I could hardly breathe. There was no light, love, or joy. I got (almost) everything I wanted but it wasn't worth it. There is a reason the upside down pentagram has the Spirit point submerged downward into the earth/base. The demons want us to be animals and quench any and all desire for light and higher thinking.
Interesting I am not religious anymore but if I was conjuring demons not breaking the protection circle seems pretty important maybe the most important thing given the context.
I can resonate with this.... I stopped working with the triangle, and started just invoking them into myself entirely. There was this feeling of wanting to simply lay down in the circle and allow them to just enter me. I hate to get 'descriptive' but there was even a feeling of intimacy. A longing to lust after them. I had weird things happen in my life as well as bad luck has it. But I have also destroyed aspects of my life too, possibly guided by these demonic forces... I got what I wanted too.... but it was sinister, destructive, suppressive, I was lost... dark and just filled with depression.
If one is actually on a path to growth and has experienced sprituality, they shouldn't be so easily swayed by others telling their own experience and truth, should they? Learn what you can from this video and take what you will. He is trying to help. Discernment is up to you. No need to worry that differences in opinions will somehow cause damage to your own path. Also, even if you were to believe that demons are just parts of your mind, those aspects of the mind are consistently testified to be unruly by many. That's why in Goetia, your relationship with these demons are supposed to be dominant/submissive, because you don't want these "lower" aspects of you doing whatever the f they want. If you think that religion is just a bunch of BS to control humanity, as true as that is partially, read more, or practice more magick.
It's amazing how people just won't use their intelligence when working with entities. Would you open your door to anyone who just happened to turn up at your door? No more should you open your mind to any entity before you are sure you can trust them. It's commonsense really.
Don’t intentionally touch a hot stove. Don’t put your finger in an electrical outlet. And don’t work with demons. Sounds pretty common sense advice to me. But you know what Voltaire said about common sense, don’t ya-Common sense is not very common, especially these days.
Sorry the people telling me that were raping kids and getting away with it so I had my doubts about them as well. The idea that it should be so black and white to the average layman while the catholic church openly runs a pedophile jamboree is absurd. Credibility of the established religious institutions is close to zero, as discussed in the prior video.
the people who need to understand what you’re saying most will be the ones that won’t get it, unfortunately. i understand what you’re saying though and i’ve seen other people go through this process of working heavily with demons only to come out the other side and say it wasn’t worth it in the long run. maybe others have different experiences but you’re definitely not alone. i do however also think people have different paths and what works for one may not work for another. thanks for sharing.
Yeah me here people don't have the right fondation to work with demons you think they want a person who can't control themselves you must become fearless you have a lot of thing you must deal with the monsters but people give them power to make deals with them etc you are the one who has the power now don't be disrespect but come from a point of I'm going to use and command your power to evolve myself or whatever spiritual matter you need at hand or phyical matter power is the key people tend you want to control nstead of letting go to the darkness of your own subconscious mind and letting these thing happen its a natural process but im not saying everyone is ready for it but know this work will build or destroy you so you have to be mentally strong and know everything that's happening is to destroy the artifical self and not the true self but you can fuck yourself over and now you have do more work to get out of it its all about trama and balance and intergaing these dark matter energies trama is deak matter energy once processed people are aggressive or have boundaries that are healthy etc I could go on and on but you should watch Universal mastery on yt if interested
@@Izaiah3333For how dangerous and convoluted a path it sounds, it would be better to destroy all traces of it and promote a better, surer path for people. One that does not end in possible destruction, however much you think the person being destroyed had it 'coming to them.'
Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal, but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.-Matthew 6: 19-21
My mom has worked with demons for 20 years now, and it has devastated our family. She fully believed she was strong enough but over years, what was once a beneficial agreement slowly and subtly became a parasitic infestation at the cost of her sanity and everything it once rewarded. If you have anyone in your life who you care about, question how much right you have to involve them in your personal decisions for your own life.
Safe to say 'anybody' that was upset by the first video is possessed and representing demons, obviously, so I'm kind of surprised you'd feel you should respond, but I appreciate everything about what you share, and that you're very generous with your personal experience and knowledge ... THANKS
For some people Demonolatry is just something they are attracted to. I met quite a few. My only indirect experience with a goetic demon was printing his sigil on the merch and album artwork of one of my musical projects. Immediately after I got in a big argument with my band mate and split up. That time of my life was also coupled with depression , lots of stress and a strained relation with my parents. I didn't summon it, I didn't believe in demons to be honest. I just found his sigil cool to look at and would fit well into the dark aestethic of my band. Right now I can get what I need working with elemental spirits, angels and archangels. I don't see any need to resort to demons for anything.
I deeply appreciated both of these videos and related to so much of what you shared. Thank you for your courage and transparency. Your channel is a great source of insight and encouragement.
Honestly, the reason I just signed up on your channel is because of this video. The knowledge and expertise you have learned, experimented with and succeeded is all phenominal. I so enjoy your manner of teaching. Thank you for sharing all of these topics.
You don't have to explain yourself to Anyone. Some of us are Grateful for you sharing your spiritual journey with us. You are courageous and selfless, you are Blessed. keep walking forward brother, so we may learn form you. 🙏🙏🔯🔯💜💜
You don't have to explain yourself to Anyone. Some of us are Grateful for you sharing your spiritual journey with us. If other people are foolish enough to think they know better than anyone else are going down the wrong path.
Do what thou wilt is going to involve other people's business. Other people's boundaries. Other people's rights. That's the problem. Evil can only exist by being a parasite and exploiting what is good.
They are all not the same, I feel like you cannot paint all of them with the same brush, some will be hostile some will be friendly, sure you should be careful dealing with entities that could squash you if they wanted, as the person who has a bear as a pet it's a risk which can provide rewards.
@@jimmygutro 2 lol but both pretty cool guys, I know some people with more experience that also can say their experience was positive, obviously sometimes things can go south as it happens with humans as well.
But sadly, the longer someone walks a certain path, the harder it gets for them to turn around, even when faced with obvious reason. The mind is physical, made of connected cells, and it fights back any attempt to rewire it.
@@websurfer5772 Luckily I had my wake up call early, I was about 17, just got the cat I always dreamt of, gorgeous british shorthair Barabbash (RIP, ironically he died on the easter sunday, when Jesus has risen from dead, my Barabbas who was always free had to die a slow and painful death, can't understand why vets didn't give him any pain and stress relieving meds, just drained his cavities and said that he'll die soon, my parents didn't even tell me he was sick, I would buy some illegally, but I got the news just as I arrived, I would've even shot him in the head when he was screaming in agony, but he had hidden himself so deep under a huge corner sofa that it was impossible to get to him or get it out of way without hurting him, sorry for that offtop, I really love that gentle giant). As a tomcat, young and in a new place he wasn't too easy to bond with, he never really lived sleeping with other people on the bed, maybe the movements of bedsheets and blankets was annoying for him, but I really wanted him to be my fluffy nighttime companion to hug in sad moments in bed, and it was more than regular, I have a chronic insomnia since childhood. So one night I heard something run on the floor of my room after I switched the light off, and I couldn't remember if I closed doors to my room or not, but I thought its him, this dark shape was just the right size for a cat, so I welcomed it and invited it to be with me. But as I tried to locate it with my feet, I felt something slithering under my duvet, I didn't have time to think - hmm, cats don't slither and he hates being covered, because it grabbed me by my foot, and ripped my soul through some kind of portal into another dimension/place/spacetime, its impossible to tell, you have three axis in our material world and one to which we are strapped like things on a conveyor belt, we cant move about the time axis, we can imagine it, but it was like X Y Z + some demonic Źori(t). And I was there, in the barren post-apocalyptic or freshly formed planet with weird almost fractal or artificial landscape, held upside down by talons of a black, bat-winged humanoid with talons like bird of prey. I was at the stage of life where I thought I know everything, I tried many psychedelics,had lucid dreams pretty often and tried to go into OOBE as frequently as I could, I meditated, which was hard due to my ADHD, butI still made some progress, I thought that world is dualistic only because of our ego's animalistic survival traits, that we are all one born from the one creator who is the only thing and nothing can exist outside of him, all of his creation is part of him because nothing can ecist beyond him as he is the source of consciousness, the reason we can observe and feel the happening thing, which could be happening automatically, like game's NPCs, but its not. So I was like, nah, demons aren't real, they can be only some faulty forms of energy that can be tame, or maybe they don't exist at all. That vanity and pride in combination of my higher vibration level lured it I guess, but then I tried to rationalise that its just a night terror, that I somehow miraculously fell asleep in 10 seconds instead of usual 3 hours in spite of the fact that I wasn't tired. But I couldn't wake up, no matter if I tried to close my eyes and wiggle or try to relax and be as easy as possible. But it did nothing, and I felt the most horrifying sensation of impending doom, I knew we are getting closer to a bottomless pit and that there is no way back from there. In a sudden meltdown I started to scream, beg, fight, all for nothing, until, by mere coincidence, between the cries, screams, and screams of no, and help me, I said Jesus. The creature screeched, and begun to dive lower and lower, trying to flap it's wings stronger and faster, but with each flap it was slower and weaker. And then it let me from its grab. When you have a dream of falling down, you wake up with that tingling sensation, similar to going to edge of a long drop down the rocks or building? And the feeling that you actually fell down? It was like this, but as if I just got shot into that bed from the moon. There was no cat, the doors were closed. It would be easy to dismiss as just a bad dream, but what happened was against my beliefs and knowledge, it felt more real than waking reality, and when I got ripped from my body, it was similar to going into OOBE, when your mind changes frequencies and you hear and feel that mind-splitting high pitch vibration noise getting higher and higher until you lose connection with your nervous system as it shuts down so you won't kick while asleep? When this thing took me, it was like this, but instead of slowly raising vibration it was like being electrocuted or thorn apart in a mere milisecond. Btw when I was 5 I had a horrible nightmare and woke up screaming, all swollen and red as if I got dropped into boiling water, I repressed it, cried for the entire night being carried by my parents, I couldn't stop because I had to push it away from my memory to function. Parentstook me to a doctor, he told that he has never seen anything like that before but it has to be some allergy or viral infection and it will pass after few days to few weeks, but I got normal in about few hours. Later when 9/11 happened I recalled that nightmare as that of being in a plane full of burning people and I was burning too, so I kept telling everybody that I had a premonition dream of it. Never thought, that there would be no fire, just sudden death. And few years ago I found a photo that reminded me what happened, it was a airport crash of two jets, smaller and bigger, it was the LAX airport, the smaller plane had some kind of sports team and I was a guy in the regular big jet. I remembered the seat I had, and the wiki article had a graphic showing which seats belonged to people who came out ok, those who got injured and those who died. The area where I was seated was all red, meaning death. I remember the screams, the pain of burning alive trapped in a metal can and surrounded by other who where basically human torches, especially women with their long hair and soft, flammable materials. I still don't know if it was a memory of death from past life, or maybe I was just randomly chosen by a spirit to show me his horrible end, maybe it keeps him from passing on and needs some help. I heard that souls of those who died a tragic or painful death often have problems with moving on and are trapped between two worlds, and need our attention, prayer and help. Damn, sorry for that essay, my ADHD got trigerred. I'm 30 btw, and since I started living with my fiancée we have horrible luck, our loved ones die, we lose things we worked for many years, we are getting into worst possible accidents and we are getting the worst infections for our bodies, like something is doing it in a planned way, because the chances of some things that happen to us are lower than accidentally going through a wall when our body's atoms would be in perfect superposition to those in the wall, letting us go through it, or that while in the bath the energy distribution would momentarily divide in half, where one half would get to boil and the other to freeze. We have a clue who that may be, a narcissistic occultic groomer my fiancée used to make drawings for when she was about 14 and she was twenty-something. We know she's stalking her through internet, but sometimes we spot her randomly watching us, despite we live hundreds o miles from her and we never tell anywhere where or when we move. Also few years ago I got sepsis, edema, and pulmonary and trachea punctures that got infected with flesh eating bacteria, just because during appendectomy theanaesthesiologist gave too high pressure and it ripped apart, I got 25% to survive. Now after car crash we got scabies frompublic transport from homeless people who are being fed near our place, and its like cryptonite for me, since I have extremely thin tissue layers, like, I have almost no mucous membrane and because of it causing constant infections my body got into super immuno-agressive, and I'm prone to autoimmunologic rheumatoid inflammations, and those scabies made one of my fingers completely contorted and stiff in one night, my heart and kidneys hurt, cause they can cause this kind of inflammation too. And when the symptoms got more severe, out washing machine broke apart so we cant even wash out tainted and crawling with mites clothes. Wonder if this time I'm gonna survive, and if I will, how much will I lose? After that appendectomy I lost about 25kg and got major depression and ptsd. Does anyone know how to get free of it, if its a curse?
Demons are fallen angels and the disembodied nephilim spirits. In the book of Enoch, God established a covenant with the Nephilim to repent. So it is possible for some demons to be saved, but very unlikely if they are fallen angels, since fallen angels have divine knowledge. They outright reject what is divinely enshrined. Maybe not impossible, but very, very unlikely.
Philippians 2:10-11 10. That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11. And every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. AMEN
As far as the pagan gods often having negative qualities, it makes sense to say this, but I’ve got a question about calling upon YHVH in the LBRP. Yahweh was initially a desert storm god that was so cruel, Egyptians equated him to Set (their own cruel desert storm god), in reaction to the stories of the Old Testament. As an example if we were to do work with Astaroth whom is the demonized version of Astarte/Aphrodite, would it in some way be equivalent (albeit in an inverted way, Astaroth is “dark” and YHVH is now peaceful)
This is part of the reason why I don't use IHVH in the LBRP. I have a lot of respect for what the idea of the monotheistic God eventually evolved into, but there is no denying Yahweh has barbaric roots
The god of the Christians, Jews and Muslims is arguably pretty 'demonic.' Esp as portrayed in the Old Testament. The vision of the pagan gods developed by mystics and philosophers is radically different from how they are portrayed in mythology and our concept of 'God is love' or 'God is good' has far more to do with ancient mystics' epiphanies of Hecate, Zeus and Dionysus than any such epiphany that came from Biblical prophet-witch-doctors. Neoplatonism had a huge influence on early Christianity. Thus, Christianity is a checkerboard: dark and light. There are two "gods," the low-level desert demon of genocide who we see in the Old Testament and the God of Enlightenment - Logos - who was appropriated from Neoplatonism by early Christians to make their cult more 'marketable' in a Hellenic world. Be blessed!
Can concur with this sentiment. I didn't necessarily have a bad experience of any kind, definately some WTF moments, however after almost 20 to 25 years of Left Hand Path practice, while enlightening, left me wanting more and that more came when I let it go. It still plays a role in my life, more of a referance point at this point, it's more of a metric for introspection and measuring and comparing thoughts or phantasms of the mind if you will, but not really worth the "hassle" anymore when there is plenty else that can secure what your desiring without the dark side, of the dark side, doing what it does. Love your tutorials by the way, great work.
Thanks. Yes, I got into the Left Hand Path at one point in my early 20s. I didn't keep it up, because I found that the LHP philosophies I was researching made my universe feel small and lonely. Constantly tapping into negative emotional states was also exhausting. But I can appreciate why people can be attracted to a spiritual philosophy emphasising absolute freedom and self-reliance. Everybody is on their own journey and needs to work things out for themselves
Yes! I found the LHP frustrating and circular, getting nowhere. It's not great for winning people over, when you need help from people or community. If you are physically small or weak, forget it! Remember Lavey's theories of lesser black magic. Being the crazy, evil satanic crone isn't going to get my grass mown or people caring if i drop dead. Being the sweet little cookie lady will. I stay in my lane, am a Christian practicioner and fine with it.
@@LiftingtheLamp as a Christian, you can still be self-reliant. Learn canning, meat curing, agriculture. And you can have freedom too. No one is ever free to do whatever, not even Satan has that kind of freedom. So why pursue absolute freedom when it's unattainable. Be free to do what doesn't lead to self-destruction. That's all.
@@jimmygutro No thanks, have had expeariences with higher world beings, and lower world beings for that matter, without DMT, Ojibwe sweat lodge ceremonies will put you in contact with the very same reality and then some, and I respect that earned process much more than just smoking DMT. Personal choice for everyone, DMT ain't for everyone, and there's a reason it's viewed as the drive thru version of spirituality.
Sincere question What is your definition of demonic? If you are just referring to the 72 from the grimore I completely agree with you but if you mean the Greek gods the argument that they are demonic doesn’t add up. There is some very demonic stuff that is deemed as completely fine within western religion like slavery and genocide for example is endorsed in the new and Old Testament. I’m confused how that is also not demonic? I love the angels and Jesus and even YHVH but Jesus seems to be more a yogi then the incarnation of YHVH. And the angels seem to be more like celestial or ouranic intelligences concerned with big picture positive things then how they are described biblically. The angels themselves especially the 72 Shem angels seem to be honestly older than this idea of monotheism that has evolved from the earlier pagan / henothesitic ancient Judaism. I wouldn’t be surprised if they are gods straight out of Egyptian / Canaanite religion and turned into angels instead of lesser Elohim as they were likely called earlier. Archeological evidence clearly tells us the stories we get are refined and propagandized in largely the same way as other religions have done it. There are even traces of polytheism itself within the Bible. Also the biblical practices of sacrifice are essentially the same as all the other gods of the ancient world. Which we have largely created an idealistic image of. They literally used to stone people with rocks and commit genocide in the name of god. Even the Christian’s throughout the Middle Ages did atrocities in the name of Jesus then would claim there gods are all demons. It doesn’t really add up. I’m a fan of Jesus and I love his true message but this idea that only demons and angels exist I think is an oversimplification.
I'm sorry for my shallow answer but your question is not as wise as you think; actually it is the beginning of all bad practice. Knowing that the previous existence of violence doesn't distinguish the maintenance of peace through only love and compassion. Violence is still part of it, as Michael teach us. What we have as the modern Christianity is a way of maintaining stuff without major conflicts and preventing, through suggestions, the descent into old wars and blood shed. There are many old gods and it's traditions in the world other than Christianity and we can compare side by side. The act of not understanding the clamour of peace, where peace is a privilege and a basic matter of choice, is the first step to the journey of suffering only to return home with a scarred heart.
I found the demons I interacted with to be very personable and polite but I do think that I blocked myself out of concern I shouldn't be messing with the darker side. In that sense, that has been detrimental to my spirituality. Not their fault directly but not exactly helpful to me. I have no ill feeling towards demons or should I say ancient gods but I think I'd like to lean towards the Light and interact with angels.
I appreciate your clarity and and ability to articulate this. I went through the same thing you did and I can completely corroborate what you’re saying. I’m glad that someone as well spoken as you is out here saying it.
I just ran across your channel last night and I’m glad for you. Everything you say is exactly my experience, including and especially what the angels taught me. They helped me get up and find my inner strength, which feels sometimes like a parent, but a compassionate and ever loving parent. The way you described the entities going through their own karmic state is also correct. It’s all so beautifully said. I’ve only had what I can call visual and emotional experience through meditation and learning many things. I’ve seen the angels transform other beings, even themselves. I’ve learned the compassion of a Buddha from the sound healings and meditation on the Boddhisatva Avalokitesvara. I’m very fortunate to live in an area with a great deal of light workers who offer local healing workshops. Without them and the angels, I would not be here today. (And I have a great therapist).
14 years I’ve been a Christian. I’ve been loyal to God only and I trust god only. Never I hated God and never I made a deal with evil or Lucifer or devil or demons. And God rewards me for my loyalty and trust. I have everything I need. Thank God and God bless you all. God looks at your years of loyalty and service.
I’ve seen so many left hand path practitioners go down a very dark road in the end that I decided there’s no way to deal with demons unless you have protection from god. I’ve also been spiritually attacked by plenty of them without a real reason. They just never seem to like me although I never did anything to them. That really says it all for me
This may be true or not, but something to think about - in my experience demons do not attack without a reason. Every encounter has a purpose to teach something or to point out to some flaws. Attack can be made if you are not in your true power, or you have lack of something essential. Maybe something you have been avoiding dealing with. Something you dont want to see... At least in my life this has always been the case. Answer always comes and if years ago things were happening slowly, then now everything is happening much faster.
@@Tidirita I haven’t been attacked by demons for no reason - I have been attacked by left hand path practitioners for no reason many times. Not just one tried to use me as a human sacrifice and make me die, but at least 3… do the math what’s wrong with these people bc I never did that
@@daa5249 I don’t really think that demons were my problem in life… if so, they always manifested through people who thought themselves to be good. So I hate humans and love demons 😂😂
You are such a level-headed person. Thanks for all these comments! 19:30 exactly - around me people sometimes reference the old Norse gods in an attempt to establish a strongman "northern identity", opposed to the commandments of compassion and modesty that came with Christianity, but when you look at those Gods and the stories about them, they are extremely unpleasant and something you do not want to get involved with. We can be so thankful we moved beyond that as a society. Why would you even invite such a thing into your life?
Really? You mean like the god of the bible who demanded human sacrifice?, killed the first born of the Egyptians?, destroyed places with fire and brimstone because he was upset? Cast out and cursed the first wife of Adam for eternity as well as cast Adam and Eve out of the garden all because they exercised their free will? That submerged the world in a great flood because he wasn't happy with his creations? Who demanded to be worshipped alone because he's the jealous type? Who cast out the angels (his first creation) out of heaven because they had differing opinions? Need I continue? "Why would you invite such a thing into your life?"
Maybe because all the gods, including the Norse ones evolve over time with us and are not confined to our narrow perceptions of them. And maybe we shouldn't take the myths too literally because they are there to tell important morals for us to learn from. Strength and war was part of their culture but there is plenty of references to war in Christianity, too. There are some people who identify with both Jesus and Odin for example...we can learn from both. Christianity and Norse Paganism are different beliefs and to say that one is more "modest/better" than the other is ignorance. Although our society has certainly improved over time, I think acceptance, understanding, etc. are some of the many things our society still needs to work on.
Would love to hear why exactly you suggest people avoid the dark powers/demons maybe with personal stories and exact details - might be hard for you but I’d love to hear! Thank you ❤
I appreciate the honesty and genuine conversation on the practice of esoteric traditions. I’ve had my time of such pursuits and share your views on the subject.
When one is toying with magic, and asking immortal, eternal beings, you have to remember that the jury is still out on whether or not they will have your soul (even just from a consciousness perspective) forever after. One thing I have learned after 30 years of studying is that God (or at least Christ consciousness) is responsible for the peace and absence of evil. There's nothing more terrifying than having something happen to you that you cannot resolve by simply running to someone and pathetically begging for help that may very well be ineffective. I can only describe my own encounter where i figured out that I am now out of my depth, with attachments that seem to have gotten stronger each day. These beings almost certainly know you better than you know yourself, and when you are crying because you cannot sleep even after months and months. It's a literal Hell. I did a lot of psychedelics growing as a teenager, and I will never forget that moment I realised that there was more than our world. As the narrator says, take care and be cautious. This is not a game.
When I spent time with the Shipibos I really came to understand the harm that demonic entities can cause on your being. There are really dark forces out there that only have the desire to ultimatelt harm you. But one needs to differentiate between qliphotic trash and the dark enteties that are above the abyss, like Vajrakilaya or Kali…
What is the difference between 'Qliphotic trash' and entities above the abyss, if you don't mind me asking? Would the latter be more morally agreeable, or what?
Thank you for sharing your truth and opening this discussion. Not everyone is going to agree and that's ok. The wise person knows they can learning something even from those they might disagree with. Be blessed!
another thing: old gods used to require human sacrifice and that practice was common throughout all the ancient world. are these really the types of beings people want to associate with? they do not seem to think highly of humanity and are only in it for themselves. christianity has many limitations and drawbacks and a bloody history but at least it preached against sacrifice. humanity has improved because of christian ideals, even if the church was ultimately corrupted. anyways, the old gods are overrated and there’s a reason their time ended. it was ultimately for the greater good. a controversial statement in these kali yuga days but i stand by it. ideally in the future we can transcend abrahamic limitations as well.
🙄 You are aware that Christianity is mostly based off of pagan ideals/practices/mythology right? And sadly Christianity/Catholicism is very much based on human sacrifice, the worship of Jesus Christ is very much a constant worship of human sacrifice, in the old testament it was said god required human sacrifice and even now priests sit behind an alter and perform blood rituals. However, the idea of human sacrifice came from humans not from deities, technically human sacrifice was never required it was simply the mindset of the peoples at the time, animal sacrifice was much more prominent and is still used by some to this day as you may or may not know. Also the mythology/stories about Gods and goddesses are written by humans and humans have great imaginations. They were (and are most likely) however egregores, like most beings that were written about in stories/mythology in that it's people that gave/give them power, features, attributes etc.
@@TheEternalClown From Hinduism, the worst stage in cyclic existence out of four stages in each cycle (Satya yuga, treta yuga, dwapara yuga and kali yuga). Its our current time/ state and is said to become worse and worse, filled with ignorance, strife, suffering, crime etc.
In all the time that I have been occasionally doing practices with demons, more focused on the issue of succubi, I can say that, unlike angels or benevolent deities like Ganesha or Krishna, or beings like fairies (which years ago I saw until the demons ruined it), demons exhibit such great selfishness that they sometimes fall into stupidity, to the point that, in addition to the occasional energy battles, I have literally spat at them. And there is a composite demonic entity, which is like a sea of demonic faces, which has prevented me from successfully contacting many entities such as Lilith or Naamah. But the worst was when I paid the Satania coven for encounters with succubi, and they actually came because with the etheric touch I felt the female form, but the composite demonic entity did not let me see them well, and even then the succubi or the coven did nothing. The demons always hated me, I guess because I love justice and they are living iniquity. In fact, I have noticed that they favor people to the extent that they are evil or are, due to confusion, willing to harm innocent people. Thus, the only times they helped me get women was when I wanted to avenge an ex-girlfriend's infidelity, or when a girl with a boyfriend kissed me after a ritual to Asmodeus. It follows that they don't even love pleasure: they are just walking trash full of hate.
@@kathyprior4281 I never started with that perspective. They, for long time, abused from me. After I renounced to that path, they continued draining and bullying. Inclusive, they pop over my peace iniciatives
@@kathyprior4281Many people I hear say of demons that they hate the weak and are cruel. This is immensely disrespectful. What is wrong with them being treated the same?
I feel my 💎 is protecting me. "I AM" under continuous spiritual attacks and would have been destroyed if not for her. She is untouchable, "A BAD DON" she is.
I came across your video last night. Everything you said in your Demon video is true. I have studied everything under the sun, beginning in the 80s, trying to find my place in it. I grew up Catholic, but began having experiences and such until I met someone that introduced me to metaphysics. I studied every spiritual practice under the sun until I found what worked for me. I met people all over the world who practiced light and dark, and I have a strong bond with my guardian angel. Although I studied witchcraft, became a tarot reader, I only cast little spells, feeling it wasn't my place to cast them. I had no desire to work with demons because everyone I came across who had were either walking train wrecks or they wound up going insane. When I suffered a mental breakdown 20 years ago, I was attacked by demons. When it is said they know what frightens you, they did. I had horrific nightmares to the point where I was afraid to go to sleep. I had voices telling me to cut myself, to attack my family, drive into concrete barriers. Some of the pills they gave me just made this worse. It was indeed like a trip to hell. When you described what being in the presence of demons is like, that's exactly what it feels like. People who suffered mental breaks or psychosis are very low vibrationally, so they are set upon and because they don't understand what they're up against, they give in to it. If a demon or deceased human dwelling in that space tries to get you to do something, it's not simply a voice telling you, it manifests as an urge and they can make it seem like it makes perfect sense to do that and that it will be fine. To someone who is substance addicted or just weak minded, usually gives in without question. Prayer doesn't help because when you're vibrating that low they can make it so your prayers aren't heard. When you try to tune them out or avoid thinking about them, they just turn up the volume until you can't stand it. What saved me was all the years of my spiritual teachings that I knew these people couldn't do anything to me unless I allowed them. It became so annoying that I confronted this thing and had a conversation with it, asking what was in it for me because I only saw the benefit for them, meanwhile, I would lose everything I loved, hurting the people I love, losing my freedom or maybe my life. I then told this thing that I would come over there and find it and do everything to it that it wanted me to do to myself and my family. It left me alone. I agree with you that these things are neither good nor evil, evil is something we ascribe to them, but they are borne out of many different things, some of them very ancient and some of them disembodied humans who were very strong-willed with a need to control and hurt others, and they need to feed on that which is what gave them an existence. It's best to just keep focusing on working on yourself, keeping your thoughts as pure as possible and leaving them be. Thank you for your video, and don't mind the yap dogs that are barking because they want what they want so badly that they don't want to see the truth because they're desperate, and like an abused woman trying to convince everyone that her abusive boyfriend is really a good guy, they will see you as a hinderance to them rather than help. Just focus on the people who will listen to you and stay away.
I fully enjoyed your video about not working with demons, and appreciate your mature, intelligent, and thorough exploration of the topic. I also know well what these entities are capable of and their true nature and intentions. Stay the course of truth, brother. Many need to hear these things from someone who can present it in exactly the way you do. ❤
Glad you have no inclination to cave, after all the blow-back!.......You are obviously a thoroughly informed, wise, meticulous, ethical and EXPERIENCED. I am convinced that my long-standing intention to know about what stands at the heart of this subject, for the good of all of us and those we affect through our energy and actions, brought me into contact with your work, since my questions ALWAYS, somehow get answered. You have answered the main, and any related questions, i could have come up with, and I'm glad to see objectivity and honesty, which other presenters don't really offer, in my search so far.
I commented on your other video but I felt like this occurred to me as well; any entity that promises you material rewards with relatively few “strings attached” i.e. ego driven desire, will generally not be beneficial to your spiritual wellbeing and development. This isn’t simply a christian issue, nearly every major religion (buddhism, hinduism etc.) also emphasise the important of divesting from materialism. Food for thought.
Every major world religion can be wrong in that regard. Material rewards are not bad in themselves, though they are treated as such because Christianity ultimately celebrates asceticism and Buddhism is of the sramanic tradition. What spiritual development?
I found your channel and subscribed because of that video. You don’t need to justify your stance. Everyone on RU-vid has an opinion and who knows maybe the people defending working with demons will come to regret it
I appreciate your honesty and point of view. When i worked with Belial he told me I’ll eventually have to let go of even him. So maybe it’s hit or miss. ❤
Love this material. I hope as things go forward and the channel picks up steam we can have some more hands on interaction. If there was a Patreon I'd happily join it.
A Patreon is definitely on the cards one day, but not for a while I think. It may be more viable for me one day. For now it is a matter of slow and steady growth. Thanks for your ongoing support!
From the onset, my opinion was that we as humans are envied by these spirits, and their intentions are to steal,kill,and destroy us. I took this as a kind human standing at the gate into the underworld, with a desire to save the curious the destruction he faced when he went through the gate. I would say that in making this video they continue to oppose him as he attempted to help save the curious from his experience. One would,or should surmise a level of appreciation admiration for the obvious intent. My elder brother stuck a toe in the malevolent waters ,sort to speak,and was horrified by his experience for years after. I thank you,sir for your gift of wisdom, through experience,and the obvious intent behind said gift. Brian in Arizona
Nice angle brother, I think of the scripture "What covenant hath Christ with Belial" is poignant on this subject. Many people have given themselves over to dark forces....
These spirits that come, sometimes you don't know what you are going to get. Like people, some of these things are psychopaths, sociopaths. They are dangerous. Its a risk we take when we contact and work with these entities. There is no such thing as working with dark things = zero risk. There is always a risk. So don't blame this guy for saying it wasn't right for him. That's him. It's his opinion and his experience. I respect that. I wouldn't recommend to anyone, "hey, you should go find some dark ass spirits and work with them". Nope. That's a risk they have to take on themselves.
Demons are not like people. They have higher access to knowledge, thus a higher moral responsibility. If you can't see that, your entire premise is false.
@@worgancrow ...But you know they are not like people. You know why you communicate with them. You know they have special knowledge due to their spiritual nature. Do you not seek them for spiritual attainment? If they are behaving like people, you need to ask yourself why. Again, they hold special knowledge and require some form of transaction for further access. Why? Demons are not going to be some comic book or Dante's inferno, macabre personality. Of course, they're not going to come at you frothing or speaking in some "demonic" voice. That serves nothing, because anyone immediately wises up. An individual demon may have no agenda, but your reliance on them is an opportunity to damn you. Just picture a drug addict, who can be very nice when they're not fixating, but at a moment's notice they'll sacrifice you for to get that fix. Point being...these are not people. These are spiritual beings with access to knowledge that shifts the onus of moral responsibility on them. You may spend 5, 10 years in niceties, but they do not exist in our space-time....5, 10 years of niceties is nothing to them.
@@worgancrow Yes, the point is don't work with these things. You don't seem to grasp that you're dealing with higher entities. You may utter the words and act with the intention of higher attainment, but your mind isn't present in the words "higher entities". Hopefully, if even 10 or 20 years from now, you'll be free from this entrapment. Good luck.
Your compassion is admirable. Having little tolerance for those lacking common sense. I must commend your broad consideration for the spiritual outcomes of your viewers. Both the sharp & the blunt. You are a trip! I enjoy everything you do. You’ve given me a sense that I am no longer the lonely thinker wandering the cosmos alone on my solar barge pondering the meaning of the many forms we take in a single life.
People are trying to defend demons as if the demons need it😂I have been dealing with demons for quite a while and still am, but I try my best to stay sharp and not get deluded into thinking they are kind, or friendly, or philanthropic, no, they aren't. They can treat you nice if it suits them but they are quite vile, insidious, possessive, cruel, etc,etc. They are sociopaths of the spirit world. And you can't afford yourself a luxury of believing otherwise ESPECIALLY if you work with them
Yes, I am hearing your realization of equanimity and Attachment. And moral determination. So you do not give into your passions but walk the middle path. And your temptation was quite a battle.
So absolutely true. The idea of things is almost always better than the things themselves. In the end it is all about coveting coveting what we see coveting, others, things, etc. 👍
The one thing you need to learn is that you do not need to defend yourself from the negative comments. You will waste too much energy, in life in general, if you take time to respond to those who criticize you.
I honestly do not like to resort to demons right away. I do believe that in this world they are necessary. It's evident that in this world, because of the evil of humanity, they are here to stay. We are in some dark times where there are large amounts of people who deserve this plague. And it's only going to get worse.
Light and darkness are of the same source. We need them both. Saying that no good comes from working with demons is pure ignorance. 95% of our universe consists of dark matter energy. Everything stems from ain, the void. I understand your opinion but it is pure fear mongering. Unless you make the subconscious conscious, it will rule over your life and no angel can alleviate that. What are you suppressing? What is so frightening in your subconscious that you are projecting and making one-sided generalizations about the nature of things? Working with the positive polarity has its limitations and it shows. You claim to be experienced but fail to recognize your bias and are spreading info that even a beginner black magician can refute. People with actual experience are trying to show you your limited pov but you feel attacked and are in a martyr-complex. At the end of the day you are free to continue down that path and find it out for yourself where it will lead you. If you want to assume the role of the "good shepherd" go ahead, no one's gonna stop you.
" Working with the positive polarity has its limitations and it shows " ?? You're bringing Law of One terminology into an Occult discussion and I'm wondering if you are applying it correctly to the conversation. It sounds like you are saying the Negative polarity has an advantage of inner Alchemical work that the Positive Polarity does not. Service to Self Negative polarity is path of separation from Source meaning it lacks the inner work you are referring. Your disagreement with his point of view is fine but is your New Age Law of One terminology backwards?
Where is the logic here? It's all just armchair psychoanalysis and presumption- moral 'light and darkness'- what is of relevance here- are not both necessary, at least not 'darkness.' No need to make the subconscious conscious if we can identify what it is that makes the subconscious a thing to be feared and controlled- human biology and psychology. Why not change this psychology. Or stop reproducing it? What refutations could a black magician possibly present here? Most of your arguments and this material operate in the realm of hypothesis and presumption, there is no 'refuting.' It is fair for him to have a 'martyr complex,' or whatever it is that he actually has that you portray as such.
I think op is advising, from his own personal experience, that working with demonic entities is no good for your spiritual growth. He didn't advocate against working on your shadow side.
Don’t sweat it those people are clinging to their own perceptions which come from their desire, and every magician thinks they’re the wisest then that they’re always right and blah blah blah, blah blah and of course if somebody gets something good from a demon, they are going to defend it till the very end to be that simply the fact that the demon has been integrated into them anyway, we can only know what we experience and we can only have the perception of our experiences… The interesting thing is we don’t know what happens to these demonic, sorcerer magicians after they die, and where they go and what happens to them, but I am assuming they are completely slaves to these beings.
controversy is everywhere, i really fight virtually with satanists on facebook. i always listened to rock and metal music and believe me being christian in that world is rare very rare.
I love how people discredited this guy by saying that he only had negative experiences because he didn't know what he was doing... As if the average person considering demonolatry would be any better.
Great response video. I also find a bit of an issue with certain parties automatically jumping to or questioning your knowledge or experience merely because your experience and the advice you give based on that experience doesn't confirm or validate their personal stance pr opinion. *Their experience may be different and they may disagree but that doesn't your "wrong." Another thing you mentioned in regards to "pagan gods" I myself have experience working with such in a certain regard. Even I will agree that you are not wrong in your statement that (I am be no means saying that all of such should be seen as "bad" or "dangerous." ) Though, the fact is when delving into such? One has to understand and respect that we maybe dealing with things or aspects that definitely wouldn't translate or be seen as compatible with certain values we hold in contemporary society. Another area similar to this is ancestral work. (Which btw Imo I would encourage everyone into spiritual practices to explore this in some degree.) Though a part of that involves radically accepting who said ancestors were. Which will inevitably lead to accepting and even understanding values and aspects of one's ancestors that wouldn't translate well today (and may also give insight as to why some traditions change. Sometimes it's for a good reason!) My overall advice in regards to the main topic you are addressing: If someone wants to work with or delve into the realm of what we refer to (in modern contemporary culture ) as the "demonic"? One would have to be honest about what this entails. There absolutely ARE negative and "not beneficial" elements to such forces.
Why do you sugarcoat matters? Why do I have to 'radically accept' these ancestors unless they've changed? Why do I have to respect these gods and ancestors who utterly disrespect me because of their values and feelings? And you frame this as some kind of disconnect between the past and 'contemporary society'...
@TheEternalClown I don't think you quite grasped what I meant by "radically accept." To accept something doesn't automatically equate to agreeing with or partaking in such. Ex: Many of us probably have had ancestors or family members who have/ had / beliefs we don't align with as individuals. (Fine), but you have to ACCEPT the fact that this is the reality of who they are. To make it very blunt and not sugarcoat it: You could have had ancient ancestors that had partaken in animal (or even human) sacrifice. You have to accept the fact that this happened in history. Not endorsing it, but accepting that this was a reality and fact of that matter! You can't pretend it "never happened." We have to accept that these people were our predecessors. Because that's just the fact of the matter!
"Attack your character in ways" that were "unfair"? Demons don't play fair. Don't explain yourself. You don't have to. People are going to do dumb things regardless of you warning them. If anything, I would say your advice has good weight because you actually did it and experienced it, unlike someone who is Christian and telling others not to try it just because that's what they were told.
I thought it was a great and informative video from a different perspective. Don’t let it discourage you. I have around 500 videos and talk about killing and casting out demons and they shadow-banned me. Only 42 subs
I don’t trust people, demons or anything from the astral either, even what’s called angels as they could be shape shifted dark entities. This whole place is completely unproven to be safe at all. Divinity within is all I can prove
The ones I worry about are the RU-vidrs like Orlee from Cyber Witch who is a bishop in the heiarchy of the satanic temple offering conjuring servuces. I had Asmodeus come to me just watching one of her videos where she conjured him. He even called me a daughter of Lillith. That felt flattering until some creepy spirits started coming around. I cut ties, never made an agreement anyway, and did some cleansing rituals to keep the creeps out. I also drew a norse protection sigil on my walls and windowsills. I still have weird dreams but my experiences are getting more positive. Sometimes the bad ones still try to provike me by appearing and staring at me, but they dont do anything
Crowley spoke about a man he knew who scribbled one of the sigils from the abremelin book onto his wrist to get a girl he loved to return to him. the girl returned to him. he took his own life a few days later.
I seen the first video. Really interesting. I always wondered about those who successfully (or unsuccessfully) work with demons. I have not found one but a podcast, that has guests, such as you, who have worked with demons. A podcast, say, like Coast-to-Coast AM type, per se. I get, it's a topic, that a lot of these hosts, don't want to go there? Thank you for sharing your story.
I used to consider myself a Pagan, and in some ways I still do. I've come to realize through my own spiritual growth that the way I view spirituality is much more of a broad view. Instead of putting ideas on a shelf and sticking to that shelf, I have the entire library to pull from. My 'Pagan' identity is rooted more in animism and the realization that there are Pagan Gods and Goddesses that are and have always been positive and nurturing and that the energy that they've always held has been for good. There are others, though, which of course you refer to as being negative based on their historical meaning and connotations. So, I suppose 'Pagan' is a big fence that holds a few different camps, so I don't really get tied up there too much. These days, I've come to realize much of what you are realizing. I've spent 20 years exploring my spirituality and I've come to a universalist idea, that developing our own consciousness and realizing unity with the Divine in our lives is the most important thing we can do along the path. I consider myself Gnostic, but not specifically of any division or religious sect. Gnostic insofar as gaining knowledge through experience and wisdom through the application (right application) of that knowledge. So, I'm a modern monastic who practices Gnostic Christianity, Buddhism, and everything else that aligns with that same stream of energy and unity. I've gotten some negative commentary from others that say mixing or muddying it all together is 'bad' or 'crossing the line'. Again, as a gnostic, I count on my own experience through my spiritual practice to orient me toward Love, Light, and the Christos, the inner Christ, the spark of the Divine essence within myself. So, while I won't condemn a group of people by calling them out (in your case, Pagans, even if that wasn't your intent or how it came across even), I will just say that if your goal is to evolve spiritually and move toward more love and compassion, follow the path that takes you there, and don't spend too much time at the roadside attractions that don't offer you the tools to move farther along toward englightenment. If it seems off, it's not meant for you. Discernment is a critical skill, and if you've done the work to sharpen it, you'll be well-equipped to step into the unknown to 'find out'. Thanks for your work, your insights, and your dedication. Lux et Veritas!
Personally I loved the video and found it profoundly insightful. It was put together very well and i completely agreed with it and will take heed though it has never been an intention of mine ever. I have not so much as messed with certain items as i have always known it was not a thing i could begin to comprehend, understand or control once out. Blessings to you. Im enjoying this channel. In L.V.X!!!
What helped me with demonic oppression was calling on mother Mary help and praying the Rosary (on youtub) daily . For some reason calling on Jesus didn't work for me but Mary came with 'light speed' , maybe bcoz i was too fallen and m.Mary is even more merciful .
I will like to hear your thoughts on “Who is a magus” My father was a Magus before died and he brought me along. I am getting ready to start my Angelic Invocation training (AI)and right after that , I will be training for different levels of spiritualism. I will not be doing these by myself. I will be with other Priest, Prophets, Mediums and Magus
I am very grateful, that you share your experience. I feel you are very trustworthy. I have a question : I was once told that "good and evil" are needing eachother and exist together and that for me it would be the goal to use energy to reinstall a balance in between whenever i could. What are your thoughts on the existance of both "sides". I know there are many grimoires but i wonder, how you knew which of these informations are "true". Did you find out by trial and error? I find your experience interesting and i am interested in your spiritual path and where it started and how you came to the knowledge. Do you believe in spirit guides? (sorry i wrote this not having watched till the end 😊 i will check the other videos.)
You do not have to explain that wonderful message in your previous video!!!!!!!! Its pretty damn straight forward.....you were warning us that you got to close and to take your advice that even experimenting with this can lead to some pretty bad circumstances!!!! Every comment should have been a big thank you.....and if it wasnt then those my friend are the demons talking.....this sh#t is real and even a little experimenting can ruin your life....i know all to well....dont mess with that sh#t
I left a comment (now deleted) on your original video about working with demons. I admittedly thought that it was coming from a place of previous Christian indoctrination. But over the last 7 months since you posted that video I not only participated in discussions with demonolaters but also did some mild "get to know you" type workings with some of the entities listed in the Goetia. I have come to realize, mostly through my interactions with demonolaters, that it really is not something I want to participate in myself. There's lots of talk about how demons can get you what you want, which may be true but the people you encounter within theistic satanism and demonolatry are some of the unhappiest, angry, snippy and whiny people, along with usually being broke and unpopular. I don't say that to crap all over these people but if working with demons was so positive and got you all these worldly things & power then why are these people living the lives that they are? It just made no sense to me. Where is the inner peace? Where is the joy? Where is the abundance? I have no doubt that many of those who work with demons would want to tell me I'm wrong, that they themselves are perfectly happy and super super rich. But I'm really not convinced.
I’ve been on and off about working with them in the same gentle approach way ,edging back and forth and trying to get a feel for their energies ,and even with the entity that is supposed to be the friendliest one of them all I get into terrible arguments with my wife and much more angry at her when I do. I’ve also found that my addiction to smoking goes way through the roof in terms of how many I smoke which causes more arguments because they are so expensive and we don’t have that much money. I’m still tempted terribly to fall into the evil path of goetia.
I thought that same exact thing when i left satanism. On the left, you have people living in squalor, poor, disabled, obese, mean, whiny, and don't like each other. And on the right side, you see these families in the churches with the nice cars, suits and ties, smiling. Good-looking people. So who is missing out? My self-interest told me to go with Christ! Sure, life is tough, but it's a challenge with lots of supporters and help. Just ask!
@@rosyclown I mean, I've seen what's under the suits and the happy smiley faces of the people on the "right" and I can't say I'm much of a fan of them either. Their hypocrisy and abuses are pretty astounding. But I'm also not an American and I don't break the world down into people on the "left" and the "right". As an outsider it seems like both sides of your culture wars have reasonable people as well as those who are completely insane and using their ideology for power, personal gain and to abuse those around them. I prefer a middle path of actual devotion to the teachings of Christ rather than working with Demons for worldly gain or being a modern version of the Pharisees' unclean cup (picture perfect on the outside but rotten at the core).
