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My Faith Deconstruction | Why I'm No Longer a Christian 

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@abby_stewart
@abby_stewart 2 года назад
Stepped away from Christianity officially this past week. Starting searching for deconstructing videos. Found yours. And it’s been so helpful. Thank you. 🙏🏻
@davidsabillon5182
@davidsabillon5182 2 года назад
Good for you!
@Pfpfpfpfpf2020
@Pfpfpfpfpf2020 2 года назад
Check out Belief it or Not!!!
@c.lineofficial
@c.lineofficial 2 года назад
@@Pfpfpfpfpf2020 I LOVE that channel!
@dethornedrose
@dethornedrose 2 года назад
You made a terrible mistake. Jesus is literally so precious even tho many Christians are terrible to be around
@Pfpfpfpfpf2020
@Pfpfpfpfpf2020 2 года назад
@@dethornedrose you are so terribly misguided, I feel sorry for you.
@masface6
@masface6 2 года назад
Religion tends to breed insanely controlling narcissistic parents unfortunately. I’ve gone through it myself. I’ve had to totally cut family off in order to happily live my life with my wife and little family. Always look after your self ❤️
@JESUSistheTRUTH-ROBLOX
@JESUSistheTRUTH-ROBLOX 2 года назад
religiosity absent of regeneration isn't true Christianity. you do everything apart from faith, it's all based upon works. it's only by the grace of GOD through faith in Him are we saved. it's only by the life, death, and resurrection of the LORD JESUS CHRIST that we're saved. it's only by a turning away from a lifestyle of sin and a turning to GOD that we're saved. a little prayer doesn't save you. good works don't save you. going to church and reading the Bible don't save you. true relationship with the LORD JESUS CHRIST and baptism of the Holy Spirit is true Christianity. you must be born again.
@patrickgerard2016
@patrickgerard2016 Год назад
my mother is the only one of my family who still claims to be a catholic. she also happens to be a severely psychologically and verbally abusive narcissist. my mother's mother was the same exact way. had this holier-than-thou attitude but was horrible and abusive. i've also had to cut off a lot of family (and then be gaslit for it, of course). I get you.
@nathanjohnston1176
@nathanjohnston1176 Год назад
Growing up, my parents based our whole identity on hating a church I had never attended. They could never shut up about it. And my mom constantly excitedly mocked Christianity and blamed all the world's problems on it and the "patriarchy." She emotionally abused my dad nonstop and occasionally physically abused her children. When my Dad would try to stop her, she would accuse him of being a misogynist, controlling husband. She gave her children a very dim view of feminism and liberalism. And I believe this is why recent studies show that more than 50% of Gen Z(both genders) believe feminism has destroyed our society, despite Idiot millennials gushing about how liberal we adorable gen z are. I was tired of all the empty identity my mom gave me, so I accepted Islam. My mom told me I was betraying my heritage. I'm fucking tired of Western culture and how people can base their entire identity on confronting a random church that no longer has a fucking thing to do with them!
@marcomoreno6748
@marcomoreno6748 Год назад
@@JESUSistheTRUTH-ROBLOX "true relationship with the LORD JESUS CHRIST" What does this entail, in your own words?
@KingdomStateOfMind91
@KingdomStateOfMind91 Год назад
Some religious parents are like that but narcissism has to do more with the person than their beliefs, just like a LGBTQ person can be narcissistic if their child would want to be a Christian . But I think we all are narcissistic to some extent to be honest
@henriklennartsson1479
@henriklennartsson1479 3 года назад
You know, I've always been an atheist, but I've been in various forums where people talk about how hurt they've been by religion, and evangelical christianity in particular, and I just feel so much compassion for you guys and the struggle you've gone through. There is so much love in this world and I don't care what anyone believes as long as they can put that above everything else. Proud of you!
@ready1fire1aim1
@ready1fire1aim1 2 года назад
1) Gottfried Leibniz Rationalist metaphysics 2) Nag Hammadi (original Human Religion) 3) good luck :)
@Givemeabreak-56
@Givemeabreak-56 2 года назад
@@ready1fire1aim1 philosophe from someone that doesn't even Know what a germ is. I would study him closely. NOT
@ready1fire1aim1
@ready1fire1aim1 2 года назад
@@Givemeabreak-56 Rationalist metaphysics and germs have what in common? I can't follow your logic. Not sure you can either.
@Givemeabreak-56
@Givemeabreak-56 2 года назад
@@ready1fire1aim1 makes you feel intelgent does he now. I find it amusing. Your adorable.
@Givemeabreak-56
@Givemeabreak-56 2 года назад
@@ready1fire1aim1 does rational metaphysics and Nag Hammadi get you a lot of dates or are you just to smart to bother with the ladies.
@alinebristol102
@alinebristol102 2 года назад
Your videos are so raw for me. Married at 20 (evangelical raised) for 26 years. Raised my 3 kids the same. Now apologizing to them and definitely not religious. Thank you so much for posting these.
@favormine
@favormine 2 года назад
Thanks for your honesty. For me it was the list of "Do's and Don'ts" that made me feel inadequate and further away from God. Finally I decided to leave church, not saying everyone should, but I needed to be uninfluenced and sort myself out. What I found is that religion says "Fix yourself and God/we will accept you" while the Gospel is supposed to be "Come just as you are and I will give you righteousness as a gift". Religion says "You have to work hard to stay forgiven and right" while the true Gospel is supposed to be: "With a single sacrifice I have made you perfectly accepted and irreversibly forgiven forever". Religion says "God is in love with a future version of you" while the Gospel of Grace is supposed to be: "God loves you as you are right now unconditionally and is NEVER GOING TO CHANGE". This reveals a bit of what I found. Please see my journey as I left the church in this link for more: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-WHGJZRMIA08.html Appreciate it. Nicolas
@faithd2046
@faithd2046 2 года назад
Yay I’m so proud of you 🥹❤️
@theharshtruthoutthere
@theharshtruthoutthere Год назад
@@faithd2046 To some a reminder, to some, new information: Bible banns not judging, Judging must be always righteous, not a false one. Being judgmental is not banned. After all Christians themselves must and are called to give a judgment daily to themselves. Christian is in daily battle against his or hers sinful flesh. Christian is busy winning souls to GOD, not letting satan having them. Christian prepares the most hardest times ahead, TRIBULATION - satan kingdom for 7 years. In which he or she, must be willing to get beheaded for CHRIST and for the Gospels sake. That`s what waits all those Christians who were left behind in rapture. Christian prays for the blessed hope - rapture , an escape from this nightmare which is coming. Christians are of a sound mind = 2 Timothy 1:7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind. You left Christianity? - souls, you were never in the reality. One thing you all , who "left" leave out, is , SINFUL NATURE, WHOLE MANKIND SUFFERS FROM. Those lived in the 1st testament timeline, now , in church age and timeline to come, tribulation, all times mankind suffers from sinful nature. Before claiming GOD to be evil, 1st learn to understand HIS reasons. Mankind WAS IS AND REMAIN SICK AND EVIL. Many amongst us are: John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. Why is Christianity seek`d from religions and Christ amongst the dead? The easy answer to the statement “ left Christianity” is - the love for the lies. Sins are held more precious then the truth.
@DIBBY40
@DIBBY40 2 года назад
I left the evangelical religion in the late 1980s. I was gay and really struggling. The hell doctrine was also affecting me. I've learnt soooo much since then. Evangelical christianity can come across as so innocuous, but dig deeper and it is quite ugly. And watch out if you tell the church you want to leave because that's when the real, nasty manipulation ramps up!
@HollieBlack
@HollieBlack 2 года назад
THANK YOU for sharing your story!!! I'm so glad I found this channel. I married into this lifestyle 10 years ago. My ex came from a quiverfull-ish family, homeschooled and then later private schooled at a school ran by his church. I had been warned by insiders who had escaped that lifestyle and outsiders who were looking in that it was weird and dangerous and to stay away. I didn't believe them. Fast forward a few years and I would find myself a slave in my own home. No job, no vehicle, forced to homeschool 2 children, broke, depressed, suicidal suffering from crippling anxiety, panic attacks, and agoraphobia. All day, cook, clean, kids. We were poor. Our trailer was crumbling around us. We went months with no hot water and were always behind on bills. When I finally pleaded for my husband to get a better job, he accused me of being worldly and I needed to be content with what we had; that I was unhappy with our life because I was putting my faith in man (him) and not God. He took his role as man of the house quite seriously but did nothing to provide and protect, always instead, accusing me of simply not being content. He had me convinced the problem was with ME and always had scripture to support his claims. I thought maybe I truly wasn't being a good Christian so I decided to study the Bible from page one and learn theology so I can get on up to "his level" and be a better Christian like him. Like many apostates, that was the beginning of the end. I lost faith after a long terrifying and lonely struggle to make it all make sense. I tried to hide that I was no longer a Christian because I was so scared of what my husband would do to me if he ever found out. Eventually I had to “come out of the closet”. He knew he didn't have a way to control me anymore and he became hostile, nasty, and emotionally abusive - so I left. Now I’m on the outside looking in, seeing women my age working on their 6th, 7th, 8th child… far removed from the rest of society - just huddled about in their safe little bubble… enthusiastically embracing domestic slavery in the name of the lord. I have zero regrets. I am free and I will never go back to that.
@aazhie
@aazhie 2 года назад
How scary, but very glad you found your way out
@sonjawalkerreactionscommen3501
@sonjawalkerreactionscommen3501 2 года назад
Oops, I deleted my comment by accident. For those who didn't have a chance to see, I live in a building specifically for disabled people. I have a visual impairment. I had a die-hard Christian care worker coming over to help me with the cleaning. She got upset with me because there was one day before she came that I decided to put in my laundry myself to save her the trouble, and I barely started the process when she yelled at me, saying that I didn't trust her. The biggest red flag I think I ever saw was when she said, "I don't do this for you, I do this for God. God will make me pay!" They do it for their ego, not God. They're narcissists. Probably some of the scariest narcissists on the planet. It's so well disguised that no one fully understands until they really analyze what happened.
@gwynethjones3503
@gwynethjones3503 2 года назад
Thank you for sharing your story.
@JESUSistheTRUTH-ROBLOX
@JESUSistheTRUTH-ROBLOX 2 года назад
religiosity absent of regeneration isn't true Christianity. you do everything apart from faith, it's all based upon works. it's only by the grace of GOD through faith in Him are we saved. it's only by the life, death, and resurrection of the LORD JESUS CHRIST that we're saved. it's only by a turning away from a lifestyle of sin and a turning to GOD that we're saved. a little prayer doesn't save you. good works don't save you. going to church and reading the Bible don't save you. true relationship with the LORD JESUS CHRIST and baptism of the Holy Spirit is true Christianity. you must be born again.
@Hippidippimahm
@Hippidippimahm 2 года назад
@@JESUSistheTRUTH-ROBLOX the illusion of regeneration is created BY the religiosity.
@grimlund
@grimlund 3 года назад
What the heck is it with american christianity? Why force a three year old kid to read the sinners pray? I dont think such a young person even knows what that means.
@paulrichards6894
@paulrichards6894 3 года назад
The internet is the biggest enemy to Christianity
@grimlund
@grimlund 3 года назад
@@paulrichards6894 I think knowledge is the main enemy. And the brain. When people start to think and using their brain they will deconstruct their beliefe.
@Venusbabe66
@Venusbabe66 3 года назад
Why force children? Easy. Because that's when the effects of indoctrination/brainwashing will have the most effect... it's when those important early neural pathways in the brain are set. It's repetition of ritual and the emotional connections that will remain (to the fear, guilt and shame of the dogma) that will be reinforced by the family, cult, congregation. Brainwashing 101. No matter what religion - it works because children must trust the adults in their life to survive.
@paulrichards6894
@paulrichards6894 3 года назад
i think Islam will survive but in 100 years Christianity will probably be far less popular
@rodneysettle8106
@rodneysettle8106 3 года назад
@@paulrichards6894 Christianity biggest enemy is knowledge of the world through scientific studies and observations. The internet is allowing people to learn and connect with each other.
@sanguinesoulful
@sanguinesoulful 3 года назад
Although I was not raised in a family that was religious (I would have loved it as a child if they were! - we could have been druids as far as my mom was concerned), I "felt the call" early in my life. I was always drawn to the church, looking back, probably because of how orderly and "nice" it seemed - especially when compared with my chaotic/abusive home. I got on a church bus as a 5 year old and went to church, where I was served kool-aid and cookies and told that Jesus loved me. I liked that part. Back then, there was not a separate, "children's church", so kids stayed in the sanctuary. I listened, transfixed and terrified as the preacher shouted about hell and how I was going there if I didn't "get saved". I remember crying in my bed at night because I wanted to "be saved" but didn't really understand how. I went to church on and off from that time and finally, "got saved" at the age of 17 (because I was still so scared of hell!). Later, I would reconfirm my faith and "really" "get saved" because by the ripe age of 20, I finally understood how dirty, disgusting, and sinful I was. From there forward, I was God's Girl. I did it all by the book because, like you, I LOVED Jesus and wanted to please him. He was such a friend to me. He got me through so much and I really, truly just wanted the whole world to have what I felt I had. I got married and my husband became a deacon. I studied The Word and hid it in my heart that I might not sin. I tried my best to be what Jesus wanted and to grow ever closer in my relationship with Him. Through all of this, though, there was always a little, horribly doubting part of me (it was my analytical brain that was the problem). Like you, I had a LOT of trouble squaring a Loving God with eternal damnation and burning punishment forever and ever andeverandeverandeverandever. Even for the worst of the worst sinners...just, why? Even for argument's sake, let's say, Hitler (most of us can agree he was a Baddie)...why must he be consciously, eternally punished? I mean, if it were up to me, I think i would assign a thousand years for each life he destroyed and then call it a day. How then, could God, who is said to be LOVE be satisfied only with the ETERNAL TORMENT of UN-redeemed sinners? How was it that I, a lowly human, seemed to contain more compassion than God. To believe in Hell was to have to accept that God was a masochistic psychopath. So, like you, I threw out believing in Hell. Also like you, the rest fell away, piece by piece from there (reading the book, "Misquoting Jesus" was also very instrumental in that - I naively thought we had, like, a master copy of the Bible stored away somewhere - lol). I also MOURNED the loss of My Friend Jesus. Once I was no longer a Believer, to whom could I turn? He had gotten me through so much! At least, that's what I believed at the time. Through a lot of years (and I mean decades!) of counseling, including EMDR therapy to help me overcome my CPTSD (long term childhood sexual abuse gave me that), I came to realize that *I* got me through so much. I had myself - always. I'm not perfect and never will be, but I'm there for me. I've got my back. It was me all along! And it's YOU! You are your best friend.
@ExFundieDiaries
@ExFundieDiaries 3 года назад
Wow, thank you so much for sharing this! I feel so seen and understood by your story and faith experiences. Your last few sentences are absolutely beautiful. I'm so inspired by your self-love and self-acceptance. I am working on my own relationship with myself and hope to truly be my own best friend someday. Thank you again!!
@livingthefullestlife
@livingthefullestlife 2 года назад
How did you read my thoughts? :))) It sounded like you read my thoughts, after the doctrine of hell fell apart, everything else fell apart. Then I watched near-death experiences, nonduality, quantum physics, etc and I can confirm with myself that Christianity can't be true. Christianity is a fear-based religion masked under love-based. I feel more love, and I love more after I left Christianity than when I was in it.
@vanillabean7832
@vanillabean7832 2 года назад
I remember when I was still a teenager and in a Bible study session and they straight up told us to interpret the word “fear” as “love” in Bible verses. They gave us no explanation as to why we were supposed to do that and even they themselves looked unsure. I didn’t say anything but I was immediately confused on how it made sense to interpret it that way because I believed that there was no fear in love like it is stated in 1 John 4:18. I also vaguely remember having an argument with family member who told me that we should fear god, and I got kind of mad at her and told her something about god being love and not about fear. This makes me think that maybe this idea of fearing god played a bigger role in my doubts early on than I realized.
@kirstencorby8465
@kirstencorby8465 2 года назад
@@vanillabean7832 Wow, that is straight-up Orwellian. "Fear is love." And abusive. Horrible. You were right to doubt it from the beginning.
@anthonycolini8533
@anthonycolini8533 2 года назад
@@kirstencorby8465 If I only had myself to rely on I would be hopeless in this life.
@A.B.3103
@A.B.3103 3 года назад
I deconverted through a couple things. My sexuality and science. I self harmed for a long time because of my sexuality and trying to push it down inside and not address it. Also, when researching science and realizing that what my parents and church told me about what science said was complete bullshit. The amount of lies I've had to come to terms with...I still get surprised
@stevem7945
@stevem7945 3 года назад
I'm glad I saw through it at a young age.
@ExFundieDiaries
@ExFundieDiaries 3 года назад
Thank you for sharing, I'm so sorry you went through that. I'm really glad you are able to be your true self now!
@Plethorality
@Plethorality 2 года назад
@@ExFundieDiaries i self harmed because of my sexuality too... and i am a celibate (because.. am so alone), cis gender, heterosexual woman!
@aazhie
@aazhie 2 года назад
@@Plethorality I'm sorry, and I hope it gets better. I'm very queer, but it absolutely can get better, and wishing you the best
@Plethorality
@Plethorality 2 года назад
@@aazhie thar is very kind of you. i appreciate that! thank you.
@n4musica
@n4musica 2 года назад
I have been slowly deconstructing my whole life and didn’t even realize it. I’m so glad I’m out and get to be myself now.
@isitreallyso1897
@isitreallyso1897 3 года назад
When you quoted 1 John 4:18, it really struck a chord with me. Seneca, an ancient Roman statesman said the same, and I think it might have been the inspiration for that Bible verse. He said: "Love and fear cannot be mingled." Every judgemental Christian needs to think about that.
@ExFundieDiaries
@ExFundieDiaries 3 года назад
That's fascinating, thanks for sharing!
@mrsmorgann0000
@mrsmorgann0000 3 года назад
She only quoted part of the scripture and therefore did not convey the full meaning. This is what happens when one cherry picks scripture without understanding, just to fit their narrative. The fullness of that scripture applies to those that are born again. They will have no fear when they appear before the throne of God. If you are not born again, there should be fear because you have reject the love of God. Please read the entire chapter, not just pick a part of a scripture because it sounds good.
@isitreallyso1897
@isitreallyso1897 3 года назад
@@mrsmorgann0000 I say this respectfully, not combatively. Where does the chapter mention being born again? And can I please ask you this - Have you read the context of the Seneca quote? No, you haven't. You're entitled to believe whatever you want. You're faith is a personal thing. But when you attempt to turn it into a uniquely true thing you reveal to everyone else just how empty your faith is. True faith would never have to rationalize like you have just done. Your faith in Christ is not based on reason or logic and that's fine. Embrace it. Love it. Live it. Jesus showed love and understanding and compassion. He didn't try to win people over with logical arguments. He acted, he lived. At least that's how I see him now. God bless you.
@anonymousjohnson976
@anonymousjohnson976 3 года назад
Yes, and for christians who think it is alright to hit or spank their children need to read that verse. They read the other one where it says, "spare the rod and spoil the child" which, actually, is a mistranslation and should say "spare the instruction and spoil the child."
@nancyhanley6558
@nancyhanley6558 2 года назад
Exactly. As Rabbi Harold Kushner explained (having ministered to many people, inc Christians), a loving God, if you choose to believe in such a being, would not advocate punishment for people exercising their right to think, and possibly not be a believer.
@schudust
@schudust 3 года назад
❤️ As just another human on this planet, I feel compelled to say: I AM PROUD OF YOU. ❤️
@ExFundieDiaries
@ExFundieDiaries 3 года назад
Thank you!! That means so much to me :)
@devidaughter7782
@devidaughter7782 2 года назад
"I just decided, somewhere along the way of my deconstruction, that I was not going to force myself to believe anything out of fear" (15:08)
@hannah-6080
@hannah-6080 Год назад
Yeah. I had a similar experience when I left religion. I was terrified of hell, terrified that I was making a mistake. But eventually something in me snapped, I just didn't want to lie to myself. In my heart of hearts I just didn't believe in Jesus anymore and if that meant I'd go to hell I guess I would have to accept that
@spider-man9118
@spider-man9118 Год назад
hell is for the devil and his squad. If you got Jesus with you, you've got nothing to worry about. then of course, there's religious ocd, so i get it Also, we have various types of evidence for biblical events, if anyone is interested
@hannah-6080
@hannah-6080 Год назад
@@spider-man9118 no, you don't get it. Your input isn't wanted here, thanks.
@andrearobinson2512
@andrearobinson2512 3 года назад
Christianity destroyed my life. I spent 27 years in a cult. I see the bible as a book of lies. I also have PTSD. I will spend the rest of my life picking up the pieces. You are so brave!!
@octaviomartinez2935
@octaviomartinez2935 3 года назад
The interpretation of the Christian version you embraced was destructive that I can agree with believing in Jesus is a positive thing.
@ExFundieDiaries
@ExFundieDiaries 3 года назад
I am so sorry for what you have experienced. I totally relate to the feeling of a lifetime of recovery ahead of us. Thanks so much for sharing and for your kind words!
@andrearobinson2512
@andrearobinson2512 3 года назад
@@ExFundieDiaries Thanks and YW. Looking forward to more videos 👍🏽
@issecret1
@issecret1 2 года назад
@@octaviomartinez2935 sure, your version is the one good one in thousands
@octaviomartinez2935
@octaviomartinez2935 2 года назад
Are you sure it was Christianity or a toxic interpretation.
@plants_and_wellness1574
@plants_and_wellness1574 2 года назад
I’m two months out of Christianity and I’m still in the anger phase. Thanks for sharing your story ❤️
@theshapeexists
@theshapeexists 2 года назад
It sucks to have something you believe in so deeply and be indoctrinated in so young be a lie. Still pisses me off over 20 years later. Watching these rich mega churches and pastors getting these kids brainwashed so young so they have a new generation of believers fund their lavish lifestyles is just disgusting. I remember going to a good friends funeral at his church, and the pastor drove a FERRARI to the church. I was already an atheist at that point, so it made me even more mad knowing that these suffering people funded his $200,000 car. Religion is poison
@plants_and_wellness1574
@plants_and_wellness1574 2 года назад
@@theshapeexists exactly. I’m still very angry and so annoyed by it all. I wish people would actually read the book they claim to follow because it doesn’t say what they think it does 😢
@theshapeexists
@theshapeexists 2 года назад
@@plants_and_wellness1574 well, I'm happy for you regardless. Cheers!
@DIBBY40
@DIBBY40 2 года назад
I feel for you. It does get better. Time and good friends are a wonderful healer. I left in the late 1980s. Im 55 now.
@DiscoverJesus
@DiscoverJesus 2 года назад
Anger about what? That you knew the way of forgiveness and truth ?
@Christine.Baraka
@Christine.Baraka Год назад
Thank you for sharing your story❤ I also grew up Christian fundamentalist and have deconstructed a lot, but the person of Jesus and the connection I have never stopped being real to me. I’ve held on to love as the purest expression of my beliefs. The stories about Jesus still inspire me to love others (and myself) better each day. The questions about hell, LGBTQ issues, etc honestly, I just don’t know. Allowing myself to just say “I don’t know” has been so empowering. The only thing I need to do is treat everyone equally with love in everything I do.
@martawatermanfitnesscoach
@martawatermanfitnesscoach 2 года назад
I understand that fear of realizing you just don't believe it anymore. I left evangelical christianity a long time ago, and it took a long time for me to say I am not a christian, especially to my brother and family who are all dyed in the wool christians. They were missionaries in France for years, and once they realized I didn't believe, they kept trying to save me. It has been quite a process.
@kdmill7563
@kdmill7563 2 года назад
I respect your honesty with your family, I have yet to tell my dad. It terrifies me.
@favormine
@favormine 2 года назад
Thanks for your honesty. For me it was the list of "Do's and Don'ts" that made me feel inadequate and further away from God. Finally I decided to leave church, not saying everyone should, but I needed to be uninfluenced and sort myself out. What I found is that religion says "Fix yourself and God/we will accept you" while the Gospel is supposed to be "Come just as you are and I will give you righteousness as a gift". Religion says "You have to work hard to stay forgiven and right" while the true Gospel is supposed to be: "With a single sacrifice I have made you perfectly accepted and irreversibly forgiven forever". Religion says "God is in love with a future version of you" while the Gospel of Grace is supposed to be: "God loves you as you are right now unconditionally and is NEVER GOING TO CHANGE". This reveals a bit of what I found. Please see my journey as I left the church in this link for more: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-WHGJZRMIA08.html Appreciate it. Nicolas
@HellenicBarrister
@HellenicBarrister 2 года назад
Hearing about people deconstructing and being in the process myself, I am always reminded of someone going through a difficult breakup with a gaslighting, abusing, neglectful partner and finally breaking free.
@emilyemily9328
@emilyemily9328 2 года назад
Thanks for sharing your deconstruction journey. I grew up in a very loving household but was raised in a southern Baptist church-going every Sunday morning and night, Wednesday night and youth activities Friday and Saturday night. I didn’t think much about it until one Sunday bible study before the sermon, which was about Catholics going to hell. Some of my closest friends in school were Catholic. It made me wonder “what if I had been born into the ‘wrong’ household and.was raised Catholic instead of the ‘true’ faith?” But I set those thoughts aside. In college I taught Sunday school at a Quaker meeting and realized that my values fit Quakerism much better that the Baptist church. But I still didn’t think much deeper about it,. In law school, I stopped attending church, but did my laundry at a laundromat across from a gospel church, with an amazing choir, which was pretty much the antithesis of the silent Quaker meetings. That’s where I began to think that various Christian denominations are different ways of seeing God. The I went to work as a human rights lawyer in the Middle East, where I got to know Jews, Muslims, Druze and other faith#, all of which were as sincere in their faith as I was in mine. I came to realize that, at best, they were all trying to understand God but could only see God through their own cultural binoculars. I later married a very devote Catholic but drifted even further away from believing in God which was ok for my husband, but he felt strongly about raising our two boys Catholic. I think this is mainly because he is Arab and there are so few Christian Arabs, especially Catholics, left in the world and he feels some sort of duty. Fortunately, we are still happily married and our boys are atheist/agnostic like me, but respectful of their father’s faith and defensive of believers (of any denomination) when their college friends mock religious beliefs. But others who go through deconstruction often are forced to give up their marriage, extended family, close friends and community. They are shunned. It’s brutal and cruel, but perhaps for the best-no risk of being sucked back into the faith.
@favormine
@favormine 2 года назад
Thanks for your honesty. For me it was the list of "Do's and Don'ts" that made me feel inadequate and further away from God. Finally I decided to leave church, not saying everyone should, but I needed to be uninfluenced and sort myself out. What I found is that religion says "Fix yourself and God/we will accept you" while the Gospel is supposed to be "Come just as you are and I will give you righteousness as a gift". Religion says "You have to work hard to stay forgiven and right" while the true Gospel is supposed to be: "With a single sacrifice I have made you perfectly accepted and irreversibly forgiven forever". Religion says "God is in love with a future version of you" while the Gospel of Grace is supposed to be: "God loves you as you are right now unconditionally and is NEVER GOING TO CHANGE". This reveals a bit of what I found. Please see my journey as I left the church in this link for more: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-WHGJZRMIA08.html Appreciate it. Nicolas
@eloiseramsey9276
@eloiseramsey9276 3 года назад
My deconstruction from the things I was taught in church started when I became a believer in God.
@ready1fire1aim1
@ready1fire1aim1 2 года назад
1) Gottfried Leibniz Rationalist metaphysics 2) Nag Hammadi (original Human Religion) 3) good luck :)
@HopeLives2012
@HopeLives2012 2 года назад
Eloise so true
@SunnyHippy
@SunnyHippy 2 года назад
This! Yes!! I was raised in church but it wasn't biblically right. I too was abused. I found the real God. I pray she does as well.
@cl5470
@cl5470 2 года назад
FYI, this is called the "no true Scotsman" argument and it is a logocal fallacy. It's actually further evidence that God does not really exist. If He does, he is not all powerful, all good or all knowing which means he is not worthy of worship. Basically this is a childish response to atheism that will only get you eyerolls.
@SunnyHippy
@SunnyHippy 2 года назад
@@cl5470 There is a difference in religion and God. Unfortunately many people fall into religion rather than God. It sounds like her parents where more religious than bible followers. I wish you all peace and love. May you turn your face to the sunshine once more and may you find God's grace. Also, God gave us free will. So therefore, God doesn't hold power over us. He gave us free will so that we may choose him and feel his unconditional love, so that we may humble ourselves and repent. If God didn't give us free will, we wouldn't ever feel the holy spirit, we wouldn't ever feel the power of repenting and forgiveness. I was a religious mess, until I let go of religion and let God in. I was angry at God, but realized it was religion. Not God. I felt so dark inside from my childhood. But all that is gone. I pray someday you will find the peace I have found. That you will find the one true God.
@WhitneyAllisonGG
@WhitneyAllisonGG 2 года назад
I always felt there's no place for me in Christianity for years when I was a child. Christianity is a great place for males in general as long as they conform to the Religion. Outside of those who use the pronouns of he there's isn't any place for women. Modern Christianity really does hate women. Let put this perspective the many Christians males complain that there is no place in the Disney Corporation because it's into psuedo diversity hires. I feel exactly the same way about Christianity and my individualism is paramount. That Christianity deep down hates women.
@69eddieD
@69eddieD 2 года назад
"Modern Christianity really does hate" That's all that needs to be said.
@davidwisler7806
@davidwisler7806 2 года назад
Wow thank YOU. My story is so similar. I spent years trying to stay a "liberal Christian" or something but had to give it all up. I lost my best friend Jesus.
@Plethorality
@Plethorality 2 года назад
that sounds painful. well.. it is painful. i have keptJesus, but the One i find in the red print not from paul, and sooooooo not from bloody calvin!! losing churchianity and decades of damaging sermons is ongoing but very much worth it. my world view is very different, i am a LOT nicer, and my theology has shrunk... or rather, grown, to the two main commandments. loving myself has been a big deal.
@MalinaBellk
@MalinaBellk 2 года назад
I understand so much of what you wrote. Please do remember, Jesus still loves you; if you can come to Him in prayer - He will deliver and help you.
@jarjardaze2485
@jarjardaze2485 2 года назад
@@Plethorality just curious since I'm currently struggling, where do you get you knowledge of Jesus if not from Paul and the rest of the gospels?
@jarjardaze2485
@jarjardaze2485 2 года назад
@@MalinaBellk I love Jesus too but I don't get it why are the rules so strict, I'm really struggling. Why doesn't He love gay People, why do they have to be punished for loving someone?
@denisefallin8042
@denisefallin8042 2 года назад
@@jarjardaze2485 Jesus doesn't address sexuality if u read. The parts describing this are from Paul. Who never met Jesus. Paul was a great apostle but not one that met Him. ☮️❤️
@hernandomoreno7608
@hernandomoreno7608 3 года назад
Thanks for sharing. I came from a conservative, fundamental Baptist denomination; a pastor's kid; a bible study leader for many years; worship team member, etc. Now, I'm an agnostic and deconstructed my beliefs. It's very liberating to be out of the clutches of religion.
@jonny-b4954
@jonny-b4954 3 года назад
Wow, I'd imagine so. Ha. That's a wild ride.
@ExFundieDiaries
@ExFundieDiaries 3 года назад
That’s a lot to deconstruct from! I’m so glad to hear that you feel liberated on the other side. Thanks so much for watching and commenting!
@octaviomartinez2935
@octaviomartinez2935 3 года назад
I’m glad you deconstructed because obviously you needed to deconstruct from harmful theology, but I have one question, what about the pretense of the lord within you or was what you felt all and imagination, I have deconstructed from church I no longer go to church because it’s toxic but I have found different ways of looking at scriptures that make sense to me.
@susanmaggiora4800
@susanmaggiora4800 3 года назад
Octavio Martinez So you took their lies & fashioned some new ones for yourself. Doesn’t sound too reconstructed, Octavio..
@octaviomartinez2935
@octaviomartinez2935 3 года назад
@@susanmaggiora4800 Jesus is not a lie, I’m a living miracle of his power to heal, also I can not deny the reality of his presence, but I do recognize deconstruction as a legit process in spirituality, jesus attempted to deconstruct the religion of his day also the apostle Paul deconstructed Judaism and laid the foundations of Christianity, we as humans have made toxic the most beautiful spiritual reality in the universe, the Christ of god.
@MrArdytube
@MrArdytube 3 года назад
Thx for sharing.. you describe what I now recognize as an anxiety crisis, layer by layer of faith is stripped away... but there is always a residual anxiety... there “must” be some exquisite core that would remain in the end. The un acknowledged anxiety is the fear to come to terms with the idea that, ...in the end... through all your devotion ... your unconditional love .,. How is it possible that in the end, there was nothing there? And then, one day, it is all gone... like waking up from a dream... and being a little astonished that what had seemed so real.... has evaporated. Not even so much from some decisive choice to wake up...it is gone. No guilt, no anxiety, no wondering whether I am making a reckless decision... just gone I remember one moment of recognition......a person in a film or a docudrama was in court and asked to swear on a Bible to tell the truth. I suddenly felt this was ridiculous... why would swearing on a Bible mean anything? Now, for me, the Bible could have been Alice in wonderland... it no longer had any transcendental significance.
@ExFundieDiaries
@ExFundieDiaries 3 года назад
This is an excellent description! Thanks for sharing!
@ChrisSmith-xh9wb
@ChrisSmith-xh9wb 3 года назад
There are many Christians (myself included) who refuse to swear on the Bible because the Bible itself forbids it (Matthew 5:33-37). The very act of swearing on the bible indicates that the person doing so has either not read it or is happy to defy it.
@favormine
@favormine 2 года назад
Thanks for your honesty. For me it was the list of "Do's and Don'ts" that made me feel inadequate and further away from God. Finally I decided to leave church, not saying everyone should, but I needed to be uninfluenced and sort myself out. What I found is that religion says "Fix yourself and God/we will accept you" while the Gospel is supposed to be "Come just as you are and I will give you righteousness as a gift". Religion says "You have to work hard to stay forgiven and right" while the true Gospel is supposed to be: "With a single sacrifice I have made you perfectly accepted and irreversibly forgiven forever". Religion says "God is in love with a future version of you" while the Gospel of Grace is supposed to be: "God loves you as you are right now unconditionally and is NEVER GOING TO CHANGE". This reveals a bit of what I found. Please see my journey as I left the church in this link for more: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-WHGJZRMIA08.html Appreciate it. Nicolas
@anthony729
@anthony729 2 года назад
In religion/Cult BITE model to Control their Members. B-ehavior Control I-nformation Control T-hought Control E-motional Control
@micahroberts8383
@micahroberts8383 2 года назад
Thank you for talking about this, for including your pronouns, and for being you in a space where I could see and connect with your experience. It means a lot! - a bi, trans, ex-fundie fella with PTSD
@hippiedachshunds1632
@hippiedachshunds1632 2 года назад
Excellent. Thank you for sharing! It took me some 30 years to finally walk away from Christianity. It started when as a Freshman at a Christian college, I took an Old Testament course. During that semester the Jonestown massacre occurred - when Evangelist Jim Jones made his entire community of over 900 followers commit suicide. Here I was reading about God helping the Isrealites slaughter whole communities so his chosen people could have their land. Something started to feel "off" to me, but I just put all my questions on the shelf, so to speak, and kept on believing. Similarly, during my second semester,while taking New Testament, the Islamic Revolution occurred in Iran. Innocent people again were being captured or slaughtered in the name of religion. In class, I'm reading that Jesus said he didn't come to change the law - all the dreadful, draconian rules and punishments outlined in the first 5 books of the bible. In my heart, at 19 years old, my faith started to crumble. As I said, it took me 30 years, but when I finally admitted I saw no reason to believe in a God, I felt freer and happier - and more fulfilled - than I ever did in all my years of being a committed Christian.
@favormine
@favormine 2 года назад
Thanks for your honesty. For me it was the list of "Do's and Don'ts" that made me feel inadequate and further away from God. Finally I decided to leave church, not saying everyone should, but I needed to be uninfluenced and sort myself out. What I found is that religion says "Fix yourself and God/we will accept you" while the Gospel is supposed to be "Come just as you are and I will give you righteousness as a gift". Religion says "You have to work hard to stay forgiven and right" while the true Gospel is supposed to be: "With a single sacrifice I have made you perfectly accepted and irreversibly forgiven forever". Religion says "God is in love with a future version of you" while the Gospel of Grace is supposed to be: "God loves you as you are right now unconditionally and is NEVER GOING TO CHANGE". This reveals a bit of what I found. Please see my journey as I left the church in this link for more: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-WHGJZRMIA08.html Appreciate it. Nicolas
@wijkeg4558
@wijkeg4558 2 года назад
I'm truly sorry you had such a difficult childhood. You present as an intelligent, serious and sensitive person which would have made your childhood experiences all the more painful. I too had a long and winding spiritual journey. I was raised in a strict Calvinist tradition (we're the ones with predestination, which is a pretty bad deal :)). In my young adult years I moved to the Evangelical stream. In middle age I had a series of profound spiritual experiences, which shifted my paradigm greatly and permanently. Now I'm a 67 year old granny. I still believe in God and Jesus and that gives me peace and purpose (and usually, joy :)), but I don't feel attached to organized Religion. I believe we're all connected, the universe is a welcoming place, and love is the most powerful force. My daily prayer is to bring kindness and love wherever I can. Thank you for sharing so honestly and vulnerably. You're on your journey, and all is well. Big virtual hug!
@favormine
@favormine 2 года назад
Thanks for your honesty. For me it was the list of "Do's and Don'ts" that made me feel inadequate and further away from God. Finally I decided to leave church, not saying everyone should, but I needed to be uninfluenced and sort myself out. What I found is that religion says "Fix yourself and God/we will accept you" while the Gospel is supposed to be "Come just as you are and I will give you righteousness as a gift". Religion says "You have to work hard to stay forgiven and right" while the true Gospel is supposed to be: "With a single sacrifice I have made you perfectly accepted and irreversibly forgiven forever". Religion says "God is in love with a future version of you" while the Gospel of Grace is supposed to be: "God loves you as you are right now unconditionally and is NEVER GOING TO CHANGE". This reveals a bit of what I found. Please see my journey as I left the church in this link for more: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-WHGJZRMIA08.html Appreciate it. Nicolas
@gleanerman2195
@gleanerman2195 3 года назад
Been there done that, sounds a lot like my story, I will never go back, I'm finally free. So proud of you sweetie.
@ExFundieDiaries
@ExFundieDiaries 3 года назад
Thank you!! I'm so glad you're free too.
@rhemalithduncan8802
@rhemalithduncan8802 3 года назад
​@@ExFundieDiaries I've been there. Done that, too... What exactly are you denying now?... Ever thought that 'just MAYBE' your priorities and your methods were out of order and you didn't ask for the Comforter's (Holy Spirit) help?... Input: Pascal's wager: Your Life's journey is too precious to just end very tragic compared to eternal glory -- are you prepared to be wrong... and yet leading others the same way?
@A.B.3103
@A.B.3103 3 года назад
@@rhemalithduncan8802 the problem with Pascals Wager is that there are THOUSANDS of religions, so betting on one and betting on none of them is pretty safe
@rhemalithduncan8802
@rhemalithduncan8802 3 года назад
@@A.B.3103 That could be a good point "IF" everything did not pivot on any possibility of there being just ONE legitimate God (creator, intelligent designer) who may indeed be obsessed with ORDER. For example: The statement Jesus Christ made in John 14:6, "Jesus said to him, I am THE way, THE truth, and THE life: no man comes to the Father (God) except by me." This is a very concisely exclusive statement. The depravity of man has always been an issue and the world has scratched its head, confused as to how many gods it takes to be safe and sane. Hinduism sports 250 million + gods. If mankind can think of thousands of other ways to the divine, we'll think up millions more... Ultimately, we can be politically correct and yet still fail to ask the right questions... What religion covers our Origin, Meaning, Morality, and Destiny and remains coherent after the inquiries are complete?... After all, if every single person's version of TRUTH was correct, nothing would ever be true or false, right or wrong and life on earth would be unlivable.
@A.B.3103
@A.B.3103 3 года назад
@@rhemalithduncan8802 you didn't even address what I said. Nice word salad
@akachovich
@akachovich 2 года назад
You did not lose faith you gained reason
@Asta-gs8pt
@Asta-gs8pt 2 года назад
It's sickening to know that there are women all over the world raised in Patriarchal societies. It completely nauseated me to hear it from an American. Good for you!
@MichelleHell
@MichelleHell 2 года назад
America is top in the world in propaganda. Always remember that. We're not good at a lot of things, but we've mastered global mass media manipulation. I grew up in the South and like many millenials (now in their 30s and 40s) you experience a version of the world that doesn't match up to this "beacon on the hill" image it likes to portray. America is like a kingdom of Monarchs. Fighting the larger political battle mimics these smaller scale dynamics. If the American political system is messed up, it's because we Americans are in SO MANY dysfunctional relationships that we can't know who to trust. It all has a history going back to the founding of this country. Institutionalizing slavery really did a number on us, it was a terrible mistake not to found the country on abolition. It set in motion the political and social framework for developing violent heiarchies. Slavery being a core institution engendered violence into all people as slave masters were given legal permission to behave in the ways they did. We're all full of PTSD of some kind because this country has so many people that will devalue you and dismiss you so they can take from you. I've effectively become a dissident of my own country because the experience she talks about in the video mirrors my political awakening that we're an abused society.
@Bringon-dw8dx
@Bringon-dw8dx 2 года назад
@@MichelleHell have to say as a European looking at how messed up the USA is this is pretty accurate. Even down to the fact many people defend guns by saying ‘well we can’t trust the government, we might need the guns to defend ourselves against government’. If that doesn’t scream ‘I don’t trust my country’ what does. But weirdly americas are patriotic, to the point is brainwashing. No other countries in the west get so proud of wars, or have flags everywhere or have to say the national anthems in schools. It’s very odd
@Asta-gs8pt
@Asta-gs8pt 2 года назад
@@MichelleHell Thank you for this response. It was well thought out and well worded. I've shown BOTH my millenial daughters.
@joman388
@joman388 2 года назад
@@MichelleHell America is so terrible yet multiple millions would come here if they could and nobody leaves for a better country.Amazing.thanks
@joman388
@joman388 2 года назад
@@MrisaVigil Till the utopia is grounded in the idea that citizens are entrenched,No one know s the difference,except those with recognizable word usage.thanks
@myjessicajourney1915
@myjessicajourney1915 2 года назад
I love this video, and very much appreciate all of it. And losing my belief in hell brought so much more comfort than believing in heaven ever did.
@gon-chanlaura5155
@gon-chanlaura5155 2 года назад
I'm a Christian (did not grow up Christian- converted like 6 or 7 years ago) but I felt you on the "Jesus felt like a friend, God not so much". Tbh I have a hard time with the idea of Jesus as a friend. Still workin' on it- but we all is workin' on something. I hope the best for you yo!
@taylorrice842
@taylorrice842 2 года назад
I was heartbroken when I stopped being a Christian. A friend recently told me about a Christin meditation group that is meant to calm the mind & let them focus on hearing god's still, small voice. She said she tought it was beautiful, because it was like they were asking themselves. This made tears well up in my eyes. All those years of praying to god & feeling like I was with someone always, I was really just praying to myself. I was the projection of unconditional love & support I had been relying on for all those years. I feel a little bit more whole now, because the line is no longer dead, I just know who is on the other side.
@xXFUEGIxX
@xXFUEGIxX 6 месяцев назад
What happens if the Bible turns out to be true? Wouldn't that just suck. Imagine the regret!! And there's no second chance. Just think about it
@Emma-cy9lp
@Emma-cy9lp 6 месяцев назад
@@xXFUEGIxX You failed to realise that people do not chose what they believe, if they are being honest with themselves. As regards the truthfulness of the bible, reality contradicts the supposed unwavering love of 'god', so yeah, but can't coexist.
@xXFUEGIxX
@xXFUEGIxX 6 месяцев назад
the love of God is that Christ died for our sins, but you have to believe to claim it. That's the love. God is a judg - He will judge.@@Emma-cy9lp
@zariamorrison14
@zariamorrison14 3 месяца назад
@@xXFUEGIxXusing fear to love god is abusive
@xXFUEGIxX
@xXFUEGIxX 3 месяца назад
@@zariamorrison14 well, it is what it is. Make your own choices and suffer any consequences that comes with it
@shahnjaylaconnors1476
@shahnjaylaconnors1476 3 года назад
My heart goes out to you, we as humans, we often twist religion (and anything else) to fit our own selfish needs. This practice implies that all Christians act in this way and that is simply not true. I pray that you now have the peace and comfort that you deserve.
@ExFundieDiaries
@ExFundieDiaries 3 года назад
I agree that not all Christians act in a selfish way. Thank you for your compassion!
@grandstarstudiosFORMER-YT
@grandstarstudiosFORMER-YT 2 года назад
@@ExFundieDiaries SOME CHRISTANS ARE GOOD, IM AGNOSTIC AND I BELIEVE IN THE REAL SCIENCE PROVED "GOD" (UNIVERSE)
@pwoods100
@pwoods100 2 года назад
You have to realize that most skeptics like myself, do not think most Christians are bad people. Quite the opposite. Most Christians are good people who have terrible beliefs. Same with Muslims. Are most Muslims good? Yes. But they still believe in some pretty poisonous doctrines. This is why religion gets away with so much. Because society has been taught that it''s not beliefs that are the problem - it's the person, when in reality ancient books, doctrines, and beliefs are the very source for the problem.
@ariels8322
@ariels8322 2 года назад
Early christians did not believe in eternal damnation. Not even ancient Jews believed that. Got that from a rabbi.
@patricj951
@patricj951 2 года назад
You are right. Hell is not to find in the original text of the bible. It's a pagan myth which is used in order to control people with fear.
@newtoatheism5968
@newtoatheism5968 3 года назад
Yeah I always feared hell now Im ok with just dying I find afterlife creepy not to mention there’s tons of cultures who have similar stories I feel like the telephone theory seems like a decent theory to me
@maywenearedhel
@maywenearedhel 2 года назад
I've come out to my parents as Panthiest as my fiancé and I are getting married next year. Ive been struggling with my faith for 10 years, and let me tell you, it is so freeing, and yet so stressful because of my parents. I pretty much went through the same deconstruction as you did in regards to my Catholic upbringing. I spent 10 years being angry with God, and fluctuating between agnostic and athiest. Eventually, i discovered Panthiesm out of an aha moment where i surmised God as Energy, which is the driving force of the universe. I then began to see god AS the universe in all its creative and destructive workings. I also came across the idea of the big bang as a Phoenix Event and not necessarily the beginning of time. In other words, the big bang was the death of the old and the birth of the new, like a Phoenix rising from the ashes, and that there is no end. That is where I am now. And i am happy here. I hope you find your happiness, darling. And never stop questioning!
@pianoplants7884
@pianoplants7884 2 года назад
I like to keep a little bit of the mystical too, but I realize I wasn’t taught science in Fundie homeschooling. So when I understand more about the natural world around me, I think, “Oh cool!” But the mystical aspect is to embrace my imagination (also repressed) and respond with wonder.
@favormine
@favormine 2 года назад
Thanks for your honesty. For me it was the list of "Do's and Don'ts" that made me feel inadequate and further away from God. Finally I decided to leave church, not saying everyone should, but I needed to be uninfluenced and sort myself out. What I found is that religion says "Fix yourself and God/we will accept you" while the Gospel is supposed to be "Come just as you are and I will give you righteousness as a gift". Religion says "You have to work hard to stay forgiven and right" while the true Gospel is supposed to be: "With a single sacrifice I have made you perfectly accepted and irreversibly forgiven forever". Religion says "God is in love with a future version of you" while the Gospel of Grace is supposed to be: "God loves you as you are right now unconditionally and is NEVER GOING TO CHANGE". This reveals a bit of what I found. Please see my journey as I left the church in this link for more: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-WHGJZRMIA08.html Appreciate it. Nicolas
@joesperling1262
@joesperling1262 2 года назад
The Bible teaches that near the time when Jesus comes there will be a great “falling away”. As I read all these comments I realize just how close His coming really is. It is truly amazing. “When the Son of man returns will he find faith on the earth?” The great apostasy is really here. Wow!
@scottjackson163
@scottjackson163 2 года назад
The categorization, vetting, and filtering of various Christian messages is, to my thinking, an expression of the more common practice within evangelical churches of having the congregation continually “self-examine” for fidelity to Christ. One is told that acceptance of Christ as savior seals the deal, but then Christian ministers routinely deliver sermons designed to engender anxiety and doubt on this point.
@evaschroeder4020
@evaschroeder4020 2 года назад
Perfect love cast out all fear! I had a christain tell me once you've lived your life in fear that's not how God wants you to live your life. I grew up a catholic homeschooler. Be spiritual not religious. And if You are led to religion it should be a discipline that leads you to spirituality. God bless you on your journey rather you believe he's there or not! And never let anyone judge you!
@cris471
@cris471 3 года назад
I thought I was alone Glad to find out that I’m not Thank you
@ExFundieDiaries
@ExFundieDiaries 3 года назад
You are definitely not alone! Thanks for commenting :)
@marklar2012
@marklar2012 3 года назад
You are not alone. There are a lot of false christians.
@patriciabejera3812
@patriciabejera3812 3 года назад
@@marklar2012 disgusting comment.
@dominiqueharry7436
@dominiqueharry7436 3 года назад
@@marklar2012 Christianity and religion itself is false.
@marklar2012
@marklar2012 3 года назад
@@dominiqueharry7436 Prove it.
@gabriellasantos6318
@gabriellasantos6318 2 года назад
My deconstruction really started in a class in college about gender roles. Hearing other people’s experiences, showed me the contrast of what I had learned about women, which was negative and abusive, and what other people had. From then on, I could not commit to a God that seemed to not care the same way about women in the way that he care about men. And that allowed half the world population to be treated so badly for most of human existence. Comparing experiences is what saved me of a lifetime of emotional, physical and spiritual abuse. So I’m really grateful for you and other people that are willing to share their most painful experiences online! Thank you so much!
@favormine
@favormine 2 года назад
Thanks for your honesty. For me it was the list of "Do's and Don'ts" that made me feel inadequate and further away from God. Finally I decided to leave church, not saying everyone should, but I needed to be uninfluenced and sort myself out. What I found is that religion says "Fix yourself and God/we will accept you" while the Gospel is supposed to be "Come just as you are and I will give you righteousness as a gift". Religion says "You have to work hard to stay forgiven and right" while the true Gospel is supposed to be: "With a single sacrifice I have made you perfectly accepted and irreversibly forgiven forever". Religion says "God is in love with a future version of you" while the Gospel of Grace is supposed to be: "God loves you as you are right now unconditionally and is NEVER GOING TO CHANGE". This reveals a bit of what I found. Please see my journey as I left the church in this link for more: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-WHGJZRMIA08.html Appreciate it. Nicolas
@SocomElite
@SocomElite 3 месяца назад
I think A lot of people don't understand how many years & hours of research some of us put in to trying to believe & hold strong but the more research you do the more it just completely falls apart. Its sad & heartbreaking but its also very freeing
@lepidoptera9337
@lepidoptera9337 2 месяца назад
It didn't take me any research. An eight year old kid went into a church one afternoon. The old priest was going through the motions, three old ladies weren't listening and the kid knew that god wasn't there. It was all just a very cheap medieval magic show. That is what you call an epiphany. ;-)
@scienceownsimposters2142
@scienceownsimposters2142 9 месяцев назад
You had the spiritual awakening humanity had to have.Congrats =)
@fredc.meekinsjr.5553
@fredc.meekinsjr.5553 3 года назад
Thank you for sharing. I had a similar experience (although I was never an evangelical Christian) but at age 50. Thankfully you have escaped at an earlier age. It is a painful process, but so liberating on the other end.
@trilithon108
@trilithon108 3 года назад
It seems that when Rome decided on the Church to represent the Empire that Paul or Pauline doctrine trumped Jesus. The whole blood sacrifice, resurrection thing was Paul who pushed that sin was washed by blood. Jesus taught self-discipline and self-sacrifice as well as a personal self transcending relationship with the Father/God. Glad you broke the bonds of mere belief and are free of that bondage.
@nnillc8899
@nnillc8899 3 года назад
Ohhh this is interesting. I've never heard of this. Thank you for sharing this!
@bigbennybuckets3788
@bigbennybuckets3788 3 года назад
"The line is dead." Bro, I said EXACTLY those words to my Mother two months ago.
@ExFundieDiaries
@ExFundieDiaries 3 года назад
Wow, that's wild! Thanks for sharing!
@MalinaBellk
@MalinaBellk 2 года назад
Christianity - is not God in itself. Having a personal relationship with the only soul’s savior Jesus is the most valuable thing; please always have Jesus in your heart. He loves you.
@JuliaAllenHesse
@JuliaAllenHesse 3 года назад
Thanks for sharing! I'm sorry that you suffered abuse, nobody deserves that. The doctrine of hell was a big part of my deconstruction too. I never really quite understood how the penalty for doing something wrong was eternal conscious torture. Finite sin -> infinite punishment. Just doesn't make sense. Probably the biggest thing for me, as someone who grew up as "the smart kid," was "deconstructing" the apologetics and biblical literalness. I saw that the bible was in fact a product of imperfect people, and then it quickly became irrelevant to my interests.
@x-divide314
@x-divide314 2 года назад
I'll tell you. Because God is holy he judges us for all sin we do. God has always done this and will do this. This is because sin is corruptible and creates chaos and fear in many others around them. Even the isrealiltes had to suffer for there sin because they chose to not follow God. Today all we need to be forgiven is having our faith in Jesus and Repentance because God is loving. The only God that creates fear is the devil.
@JuliaAllenHesse
@JuliaAllenHesse 2 года назад
I didn't ask for anyone to attempt to explain the terrible logic of the wrath of god to me. Please don't respond to me again.
@jokinghazard4022
@jokinghazard4022 2 года назад
@@JuliaAllenHesse ima reply a year late since the first reply was pretty terrible. You assume that sin is finite, it is not. Two reasons that hell is eternal are simple. Firstly people do not stop sinning in hell, their evil will continue eternally hence eternal punishment. Secondly, an offense against an infinite God of infinite worth is infinitely bad therefore deserving infinite punishment
@favormine
@favormine 2 года назад
Thanks for your honesty. For me it was the list of "Do's and Don'ts" that made me feel inadequate and further away from God. Finally I decided to leave church, not saying everyone should, but I needed to be uninfluenced and sort myself out. What I found is that religion says "Fix yourself and God/we will accept you" while the Gospel is supposed to be "Come just as you are and I will give you righteousness as a gift". Religion says "You have to work hard to stay forgiven and right" while the true Gospel is supposed to be: "With a single sacrifice I have made you perfectly accepted and irreversibly forgiven forever". Religion says "God is in love with a future version of you" while the Gospel of Grace is supposed to be: "God loves you as you are right now unconditionally and is NEVER GOING TO CHANGE". This reveals a bit of what I found. Please see my journey as I left the church in this link for more: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-WHGJZRMIA08.html Appreciate it. Nicolas
@smokie651
@smokie651 Год назад
The craziest part of of this is I never thought that I would get to a place where I would say that I was no longer Christian.
@sheiladavidson8305
@sheiladavidson8305 3 года назад
Freedom is priceless
@francpez7564
@francpez7564 Год назад
Follow religion and be the lamb. Turn to philosophy and be the lion. Discard the Hebrew scrolls into the fiery pit and hold forth the crown of wisdom. Take the owl’s nest upon your head and study philosophy.
@indianlakeohio1050
@indianlakeohio1050 3 года назад
I am happy for you in that you can share your experiences and attempt to help others to decompress from religion. Your example inspires people like myself to share as well. The trauma is real. Deconstructioners need social support and acceptance.
@ExFundieDiaries
@ExFundieDiaries 3 года назад
Thank you, what a kind comment! The trauma is definitely real, and sharing with each other can be so helpful. I also really like the use of Deconstructioner as a title :)
@atkbdk
@atkbdk 3 года назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rQeK67rubmQ.html
@atheistal4598
@atheistal4598 3 года назад
This is quite similar to my experience. Thank you for your testimony.
@ExFundieDiaries
@ExFundieDiaries 3 года назад
I like the idea of calling it a testimony :)
@ready1fire1aim1
@ready1fire1aim1 2 года назад
1) Gottfried Leibniz Rationalist metaphysics 2) Nag Hammadi (original Human Religion) 3) good luck :)
@MO-kh1zy
@MO-kh1zy 4 года назад
Thank you for sharing. It’s really inspiring.
@ExFundieDiaries
@ExFundieDiaries 4 года назад
Thanks so much for watching! :)
@plumsparkles945
@plumsparkles945 2 года назад
I can't imagine how scary that must have been. Growing up in an abusive cult!? I'm so glad your free of it now.
@chadcrawford1502
@chadcrawford1502 3 года назад
I feel after years of abuse and this God being a proverb that's other areas I feel that Hellfire is my best decision and I burn there for eternity since GOD LOVES TORTURE AND ABUSE. He runs on torture and abuse and it is FAKE He Ever loved my. I was 100% Worthless to God and Amen
@paulmorris6177
@paulmorris6177 2 года назад
Elly, that had to be one of the most compelling, heart-felt, honest and wonderful stories of release that I've ever heard (and I'm WELL ahead of you on the age-meter!) I cannot congratulate you enough for your strength and courage for doing the things that you not only have done but have persevered through. I went through my own "deconstruction" MANY years ago (back then we just called it "leaving the church" and we simply walked out). From seeing what is going on, the only word that has caused more fear in the whole of Christendom than "deconstruction" was/is "reformation"! Have a GREAT LIFE now that you have shed the shackles of religion. HOLY SHIT, it feels pretty damn good, doesn't it?!
@favormine
@favormine 2 года назад
Thanks for your honesty. For me it was the list of "Do's and Don'ts" that made me feel inadequate and further away from God. Finally I decided to leave church, not saying everyone should, but I needed to be uninfluenced and sort myself out. What I found is that religion says "Fix yourself and God/we will accept you" while the Gospel is supposed to be "Come just as you are and I will give you righteousness as a gift". Religion says "You have to work hard to stay forgiven and right" while the true Gospel is supposed to be: "With a single sacrifice I have made you perfectly accepted and irreversibly forgiven forever". Religion says "God is in love with a future version of you" while the Gospel of Grace is supposed to be: "God loves you as you are right now unconditionally and is NEVER GOING TO CHANGE". This reveals a bit of what I found. Please see my journey as I left the church in this link for more: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-WHGJZRMIA08.html Appreciate it. Nicolas
@TG-oi3jz
@TG-oi3jz 2 года назад
I really relate to what you said about the nature of "true Christianity" changing over time. My parents raised me to believe a very specific set of fringe beliefs revolving around Christian nationalism, but then when I was in high school they changed their minds about all of that, mostly due to realizing that the eschatology was incompatible with what they thought was true. But I had been sufficiently indoctrinated that I couldn't drop those ideas as easily as my parents did. That conflict was the first source of doubt for me about my faith.
@trishayamada807
@trishayamada807 2 года назад
But god is not the author of confusion. 😵‍💫
@TG-oi3jz
@TG-oi3jz 2 года назад
And the Christian response in this context is that there's one true theology (which happens to match the beliefs of whoever is saying this), and all the false variants, which are the source of the confusion, did not come from God.
@trishayamada807
@trishayamada807 2 года назад
@@TG-oi3jz which is just the no true Scotsman fallacy. But most won’t understand that.
@TG-oi3jz
@TG-oi3jz 2 года назад
I'm not sure if No True Scotsman applies here or not. But my issue with the argument is that there are people with lots of different contradictory viewpoints who all think the Bible clearly agrees with them. An omnipotent God wanting to communicate could make it actually obvious what he was trying to say.
@tomsmith6513
@tomsmith6513 2 года назад
@@trishayamada807 The Jewish teaching seems to be that "the Torah is not in heaven." From what I have read about Judaism, so-called "truth" or "orthodoxy" is not determined by God, but by a human majority. In Rabbinic Judaism, it's the majority of rabbis that decides how Jewish orthodoxy works. Jews seem to be fine with the idea of human autonomy.
@caycischell2091
@caycischell2091 3 года назад
I am so happy I've found your channel. Thank you so much for sharing your story and for being so vulnerable, open, and honest about your journey in deconstructing your faith. I know this isn't easy, but it's all worth it in the end. You are so inspirational! Thank you!
@ExFundieDiaries
@ExFundieDiaries 3 года назад
Thank you so much!! I'm glad you're here :)
@justintran3265
@justintran3265 3 года назад
I have the opposite story that you have. I grew up catholic and the only ones who were right were priest. We were never allowed to read the Bible at home or even discuss it. When ever I wanted to talk about scripture, I was shot down by my folks always and since I was a kid that i wasn’t intelligent enough and that a priest should intervene. Lo and behold I left the church and got disowned by my family. Never treated the same again. Oh well! But out of the blue Jesus appeared to me in a dream and open the door and I entered. I knew this was different in that I was made whole instantly! I know he’s the Messiah because of this dream! I am now in a non denomination group who has the love of God in them! Jesus is real!
@ExFundieDiaries
@ExFundieDiaries 3 года назад
I'm so sorry you were disowned by your family. That sounds so incredibly painful. I'm glad you've found an expression of faith that is healing for you.
@justintran3265
@justintran3265 3 года назад
​@@ExFundieDiaries Not only did they disown me, they destroyed the things that i was passionate about. The piano that I played in their house, they took it outside and sawed it up into pieces as an insult. Im not ok with that. The only thing I have left, is the house of God of whom he called me to be a part of. That house hold of God is better than my biological household and am thankful for God's intervention! Not only that but he manifestes solutions at my job when I cant figure out how to solve problems at work. I just want to say, I don't know why he responds to certain believers and not others. But no doubt, if I hadn't had these encounters, I would be lost in the nature of divinity for sure. I also want to sympathize with your struggle and to say that it is quite a common occurence. I went to several denominations, and its usually people that we get discouraged of and then tend to leave. I only wish Jesus would appear to you in your dream and then you would just have no more questions and struggle and know truth.
@justintran3265
@justintran3265 3 года назад
@@ExFundieDiaries Thank you for your sympathy, hope everything ends good for you.
@andrewcottrell2278
@andrewcottrell2278 Год назад
Fantastic, Justin!! I don't think I've ever seen Jesus in my life. (Except in one dream - quite unusual!) But He's my Savior and God!
@annanething1374
@annanething1374 2 года назад
I just want to add on to the people thanking you for sharing. I have left & come back to the church several times after being raised in an independent fundamental baptist church, but am only now discovering that there are other people out there like me who just can’t align with these things anymore. I got chills when you spoke about fear being a big part of it & there being no fear in love. That’s been my biggest struggle stepping away is the fear, not even for myself, but that I’m sending my kids to hell by not teaching them the Bible & taking them to church. I am heading down a rabbit hole with these stories and couldn’t be more grateful for all of y’all that have laid your hearts out for the rest of us to feel validated & seen in this often lonely journey of deconstruction. 🖤🖤
@favormine
@favormine 2 года назад
Thanks for your honesty. For me it was the list of "Do's and Don'ts" that made me feel inadequate and further away from God. Finally I decided to leave church, not saying everyone should, but I needed to be uninfluenced and sort myself out. What I found is that religion says "Fix yourself and God/we will accept you" while the Gospel is supposed to be "Come just as you are and I will give you righteousness as a gift". Religion says "You have to work hard to stay forgiven and right" while the true Gospel is supposed to be: "With a single sacrifice I have made you perfectly accepted and irreversibly forgiven forever". Religion says "God is in love with a future version of you" while the Gospel of Grace is supposed to be: "God loves you as you are right now unconditionally and is NEVER GOING TO CHANGE". This reveals a bit of what I found. Please see my journey as I left the church in this link for more: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-WHGJZRMIA08.html Appreciate it. Nicolas
@deeznutz1428
@deeznutz1428 Год назад
you should watch paulgoia videos in youtube and there are several other....his videos will help you with these guild/sin/hell fear and relating all the other things. he is a former Christian too.
@A.B.3103
@A.B.3103 3 года назад
It always shocks me how many people say "well you weren't ACTUALLY a chrisitian"
@toknowhim2242
@toknowhim2242 3 года назад
Bc you weren't. 1 john 2:18 "They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us." Its not that you don't believe. Its that you wanted your sin. So God has givin you what you wanted. You said in another comment a big reason for leaving the faith was for your sexuality. Romans 1:27-28 " And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done."
@A.B.3103
@A.B.3103 3 года назад
@@toknowhim2242 so if the bible said your skin color was sin..then your just fucked i guess ? That's some bullshit..also it's a no true scotsmen fallacy. But I wouldn't expect you to know about logical fallacies since christianity hates logic
@toknowhim2242
@toknowhim2242 3 года назад
@@A.B.3103 Can you explain to me how Christianity hates logic?
@A.B.3103
@A.B.3103 3 года назад
@@toknowhim2242 because christianity HAS to operate outside of logic in order to brainwash people into believing in magic. That's why christians are afraid of science etc. Now I'm done with this conversation have a great day
@toknowhim2242
@toknowhim2242 3 года назад
@@A.B.3103 You basically just answered a 'why?' With a 'because'. I'm a Christian and I'm not afraid of science. Either is any other Christian I'm aware of. Sounds like your reaching for straws. But Im sure your well aware of the strawman fallacy Mr. Logic.
@randoff32
@randoff32 3 года назад
My father-in-law is a retired preacher. The put him out to pastor.
@randoff32
@randoff32 3 года назад
Yes!!! Somebody realizes that RELIGION is a lie. Welcome ’home’ from “prison”!
@umertracker816
@umertracker816 3 года назад
I mean if you have studied every religion and then this is the conclusion. Then sure. But if you havent then its very ignorant of you. I am a Muslim and Quran is the source give it a try just go to a random chapter and read for like 10 min and be sincere.
@jimmwith2ms251
@jimmwith2ms251 2 года назад
@@umertracker816 I have. It keeps on jumping from one topic to another. Not the best book I have ever read.
@naturallyantonia
@naturallyantonia 2 года назад
Thanks for sharing your story. I relate to this a lot. I struggle because a lot of my friends are Christians. I have struggled for many years even as a child because I never fully believed. Keep up the good work ❤️
@reneerolandgraceinyourface
@reneerolandgraceinyourface 2 года назад
I fear u were given a false gospel. Noone gets the Holy Spirit until they trusted only in the shed blood of Jesus and none of what they do. The law showed us we needed a savior not a means of being good enough to get eternal life. Repentance is turning to the truth that you can't be good enough and trusting what Jesus did alone since eternal life really is a free gift. I am hated by many do called Christians for keeping the simple Gospel pure. But I pray u come to true faith knowing Jesus did pay your sin debt of death for u and receive the free gift of eternal life. Not by works of righteousness which we have done but by His mercy He saved us. I will pray for u to be set free from religion and trust Jesus only.
@4219jose
@4219jose 3 года назад
Welcome to the natural wonderful and real world. It is not perfect but it is the way it is. The best thing is to be open minded and free to learn how the universe is
@henrylopez189
@henrylopez189 3 года назад
The world is evil and is run by the evil one
@4219jose
@4219jose 3 года назад
@Jaime Lannister it is the way it is.
@4219jose
@4219jose 3 года назад
@Jaime Lannister that is the heaven that god gives us
@4219jose
@4219jose 3 года назад
@Jaime Lannister god wants the best for me, he is infinite love but iif I don't follow him then hell for ever !!!. DO YOU BELIEVE THAT ? Do you believe talking snakes
@4219jose
@4219jose 3 года назад
@Jaime Lannister I think you believe snakes talk, maybe you were indoctrinated (brainwashed) even before you learn to talk. That is child abuse. You lost the basic right to free thinking.
@defenestratefalsehoods
@defenestratefalsehoods 3 года назад
I agree, christianity is based in fear. The fear of hell and all through the bible it say to fear god. I'm not sure how they turned it into a loving god if you read the old testament. Great job seeing and breaking away from the fear.
@ExFundieDiaries
@ExFundieDiaries 3 года назад
Exactly! Most of the old testament is truly horrifying. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@defenestratefalsehoods
@defenestratefalsehoods 3 года назад
@@ExFundieDiaries I had one Christian person deny the story of Jephthah in judges 11 when he offered his daughter as a burnt offering to god. Anything bad the deny, try to spin it as good, or last resort is to blame satan. It said in the story he kept his vow to god which meant his daughter as a burnt offering. They dont see their god or religion as bad.
@ExFundieDiaries
@ExFundieDiaries 3 года назад
@@defenestratefalsehoods Yes, that story is so disgusting!!! How could that be love?
@R1SK648
@R1SK648 3 года назад
@@ExFundieDiaries The old testament does not hide how bad things were back then & God certainly seemed harsh & cruel, but then again our current world that has all this incredible technology & so called civilized life, but yet very very bad things is going on around us & very few people wants to get involved to help, whether it is abuse or violence, we are doing all this to ourselves, the Bible should be seen rather from a positive perspective like the promise to live on earth without these terrible things 😁
@defenestratefalsehoods
@defenestratefalsehoods 3 года назад
@@R1SK648 the problem is the god part. Christianity is based on the fear of going to hell that their god will send you to if you dont worship him. Psalms 2:11Serve the Lord with fear, and rejoice with trembling Deuteronomy 13:4 4Ye shall walk after the Lord your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, 6:13 13Thou shalt fear the Lord thy God, and serve him, and shalt swear by his name.
@ElloLoJo
@ElloLoJo 2 года назад
I just wanna say I think you’re remarkable and times like this make me so happy that the internet exists. Your story deserves to be told and can help so many, so thank you so much for sharing Looking forward to watching you continue to grow and I really hope I can follow your example and always grow and challenge myself
@lilliantorres6452
@lilliantorres6452 2 года назад
I recently, finally left my Christianity behind and now consider myself agnostic. Over the past few weeks your channel has been a massive help to me now that I'm at this point. So many of your experiences mirror mine growing up and seeing I'm not alone and listening to your analysis of what you went through helps me sort through my own trauma. Thank you so much.
@brisadelcastillo2840
@brisadelcastillo2840 Год назад
Look up "THE CRUCIFIX FISH - WHAT THE CRUCIFIX FISH REVEALS"
@bravesouldontplay
@bravesouldontplay 4 месяца назад
To put in a 3 year’s old mind that she is a sinner doesn’t sit well with me.
@renabeliever3628
@renabeliever3628 2 года назад
Hi ! I hope you will find God again, in a different way. Faith can be a beautiful adventure when you are FREE. But fundamentalism ruined everything. When MEN impose rules on other men everything becomes authority and egocentrism. Faith is just the opposite. Beautiful road to you and even if you may not want to believe it God loves you 😉.
@Christian_Maoist.
@Christian_Maoist. 3 года назад
Although I'm now converting to Orthodox Christianity, I too had crazy fundamentalist parents who caused me a LOT of psychological trauma and messed me up mentally so I'm glad you're free from that.
@ExFundieDiaries
@ExFundieDiaries 3 года назад
Thank you, I'm glad you've found a better path for you too!
@lar.8168
@lar.8168 2 года назад
Orthodoxy is way more forgiving than other dominations, but be careful with it because those are nationalist churches, like Greek Orthodox, Russian Orthodox, Serbian Orthodox etc
@Dzanarika1
@Dzanarika1 Год назад
@@lar.8168 it is all lunacy. People need to take care of their sanity.
@Deisel-ok6lc
@Deisel-ok6lc 3 года назад
I was a Christian most of my life, was terrified of hell, but not anymore I’m free of the burden of Trying to please A God that doesn’t exist.
@rhemalithduncan8802
@rhemalithduncan8802 3 года назад
That was the whole problem: "TRYING" to please God... Been there. Done that... What exactly are you denying now?... Ever thought that 'just MAYBE' your priorities and your methods were out of order and you didn't ask for help?... Input: Pascal's wager: Your Life's journey is too precious to just end very tragic compared to eternal glory -- are you prepared to be wrong?
@sledderal1016
@sledderal1016 3 года назад
@@rhemalithduncan8802 weakest argument ever... Which god? Of the thousands of gods that have been imagined over the course of human existence, the statistical odds that you have the correct one are exactly identical to the odds that the atheist is correct. Pascal's wager would leave a Christian just as likely to be correct as a Buddhist or an atheist or a Muslim etc... go ahead and waste your life assuming whatever god you think exists even cares, just spare the rest of us and don't impose you're beliefs on us.
@jeanine4399
@jeanine4399 3 года назад
So happy for you! My family deconstructed too and we are doing great!
@ExFundieDiaries
@ExFundieDiaries 3 года назад
Thank you! I’m so happy for you too!!
@alanzo428
@alanzo428 Месяц назад
There's only so many years, decades if agonizing disappointment a human can endure before giving up on a miracle that seemingly is showered on Literally everyone else around you except you 😢
@sitirokimbo
@sitirokimbo Месяц назад
You left one cult and another one? Thd cult of wokeness? Congratulations.
@paullever2085
@paullever2085 3 года назад
Thank you, you are a brave woman for faxing your fears....your an inspiration.
@ExFundieDiaries
@ExFundieDiaries 3 года назад
Thank you so much!
@cybergrail
@cybergrail 2 года назад
I love your presentation and the warm friendly way you express yourself. Thank you for this.
@KSU-ce2uc
@KSU-ce2uc 3 года назад
There's religion, then there's relationship. God gives us a free will. Forcing religion and legalism on kids often results in rebellion. No offense, but this sounds more like strict religion, without a true intimate relationship with Jesus Christ. I was raised in a similar fashion, abandoned it after high school, but accepted Jesus for myself many years later. As you know or have read, for the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God its eternal life. Satan makes you believe theirs liberty in sin. Sin is fun for a season, but the end is death. I pray that the true and living God is revealed to you.🙏🙏 Hypocrisy is hypocrisy. If one doesn't love their neighbor as themselves, then they don't even realize that pride is a sin. That's always been my perception of many evangelicals, especially after how they backed Trump and that whole MAGA mentality.
@rlstine4982
@rlstine4982 4 месяца назад
I have been on the Reddit Christian and TrueChristian subforums recently, the amount of sadness and painful messages you read from Christians is astonishing. Religion did not solve anything, and in some cases, brought them misery.
@Wertbag99
@Wertbag99 8 месяцев назад
My grandad told me that my Great Granddad was abusive, often beating his children to the point of unconsciousness. All the while he would quote bible verses; Proverbs 22:15 - "Folly is bound up in the heart of a child, but the rod of discipline drives it far from him." or Proverbs 13:24 - "Whoever spares the rod hates his son". Granddad said he had Christianity beaten out of him. This didn't disprove God in any way, but it did point to a clear black and white reading of the bible leading to horrific outcomes. His disbelief led to my father being less devout, and in turn I never had the push to believe. I had a fundamentalist teacher try to explain a literal Genesis and it just sounded ridiculous from the start.
@rickdoogie749
@rickdoogie749 11 месяцев назад
Oh Elly! You are a gem. Thank you for sharing your heart-wrenching story. I'm 70 years old and I spent my first 20 years as a devout Catholic in a strict Catholic family. All of my aunts, uncles, cousins, grandparents, etc., on both sides of my family were strict Catholics - not the "à la Carte" Catholics that were all around us. When I was about 11 years old, I had this sincere belief that EVERYONE should be priests and nuns, because what else matters? I spent my high school years in a Catholic seminary, gathering the scholastic credits that I needed to get into a major theological seminary. I'm happy to say that after graduating 12th grade, I got involved with a girl and a rock band. I like to say that I was knocked off the path to the priesthood by "sex, drugs, and rock and roll, but not in that order". I still devoutly studied my religion, reading the fathers of the church as well as modern theologians. It took about five years to go through new-age beliefs and even pantheism, but none of that stuck with me. I became a hardcore materialist atheist. I still love reading about deconversion experiences, because I went through the tears and intense praying and studying that I thought would save my faith. In my "crisis of faith" years, in my early 20s, I spent lots of time talking with my mother. My dad overheard us one time, and he barged into the room saying, "so, you're not Catholic anymore?" I answered, "I'm not really sure." He nearly shouted, "well, do you go to church on Sundays?" I said, "not always". Then he roared, "WELL! Then you're OUT of the church." My poor mom who was trying to build a bridge to me had to chase him out of the room. It was sad but comical. Thanks for sharing your own experience.
@rickdoogie749
@rickdoogie749 11 месяцев назад
May I suggest watching Julia Sweeney, "Letting Go Of God". She will make you laugh and make you cry. Another heart-wrenching story about personal deconversion, which incidentally was sparked by attending a bible study seminar where the class went through the bible from start to finish.
@raspberryitalia3464
@raspberryitalia3464 2 года назад
I just found your channel, and I'm so grateful. From what I've seen so far, I relate to nearly all of your experiences and I'm so glad you're here. Thank you for your vulnerability and authenticity. It means so much
@rabbiberelscharf8585
@rabbiberelscharf8585 2 года назад
Hello Elly! I am so sorry for all that you are going through! Sounds like you went through narcissistic abuse! Many therapists overlook this! I only hope that you will find peace! Be well and all the best!! 🌷🌷🌷
@claudiajade624
@claudiajade624 2 года назад
People always like to bring up the negative aspects of the Internet. But there are So many positives, including enabling those who have been shut off from the wider world, and indoctrinated in specific ideologies, to expand their knowledge and potentially shift their worldview. Plus, connecting people who have gone through/are going through very challenging and traumatic experiences which are so isolating. Can form these incredible communities and give people so much hope and an outlet.
@is_it_true_2023
@is_it_true_2023 Год назад
just here as a Christian learning more about deconstructionism. So far the common denominator is that every God is bad. Most people deconstruct into atheism or no religion. I was anticipating more people converting to Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, Confucianism, Judaism, or Baha'i, but they are not, no religion is growing quickly. As a first glance, it looks like people are going to no religion to escape from being under any religious authority which is understandable when the authority is poor or even injurious.
@Alexus3237
@Alexus3237 3 года назад
Elly, Thank you for sharing your story. It really resonated with me because although we come from very different denominations of Christianity (Roman Catholic) I had the same kinda epiphany where I was like “I...don’t believe in this anymore.” I had been feeling that way for years, I was just terrified to acknowledge it. I would pray, worship and read the Bible hoping for him to say something to me or let his presence be known to me in the privacy of my room at night. Nothing. There were many moments where I would just stay awake at night, crying and pleading for god to speak to me. I struggled with feelings of inadequacy. Was I so horrible that god didn’t want to have a relationship with me? I too experienced abuse and felt that factored into why he doesn’t respond to me. Looking back I see how unhealthy that mindset was, but I didn’t know any better. What makes me sad is how people will insist that you and I “never really knew him” or we were “never Christians to begin with”. Another common one is blaming the church we attended. Why does god only choose to have a relationship and make his presence known to some people but will reject others? Why would god refuse to acknowledge my pleas and earnest prayer? Is that was a loving, benevolent god does to those who seek to know him? I guess so. Something else that drove me away was the overconfidence and arrogance of most Christians.The belief that their interpretations are true and everyone else is wrong when there’s no way to know. Now as a young adult I have actually found comfort in the words “I don’t know”. I don’t need to know the answer to everything. I can give myself purpose. I don’t need a god to be a good person. It’s so sad that one of the core pillars of Christianity is that we are corrupt and need god to “fix” us. Then there’s the fear mongering with hell. It’s so toxic and unhealthy. That was so long winded, I apologize. I just got myself going lol. Again, thank you for sharing your story. I love hearing how other people come to terms with their lack of belief. Best, Alexus :)
@ExFundieDiaries
@ExFundieDiaries 3 года назад
Thank you so much for sharing, Alexus! It's fascinating how, even though we come from different denominations, we have such similar experiences. I relate to everything you said, and I really appreciate your comment!!
@darkstrifequeen1458
@darkstrifequeen1458 2 года назад
even i came from a strict Catholic household, and i don't go to church anymore.
@livingthefullestlife
@livingthefullestlife 2 года назад
What you said is so true. I condemned myself when I was a Christian, like I deserved all the hardships I went through because I'm a sinner. People said God loves me and I can have a relationship with God if I become a Christian, but I never had in almost 5 years being Christians (and few years before that learning about Christian God - I'm a converted one). There are so many denominations in Christianity and all of them think that they get the right things. Even people in the same church have different believes and they all believe that they get it right and others get it wrong :)))) And they said that: "God isn't God of confusion" but they're so confused themselves.
@believestthouthis7
@believestthouthis7 7 месяцев назад
I was raised totally without God and the Bible and went to public and private school. I was raised to believe that religious people were hypocrites and that I "didn't need religion to be a good person". I ended up becoming a Bible believing Christian as an adult and I am fascinated how people are raised with God and take the opposite path that I did.
@janeylaney1177
@janeylaney1177 2 года назад
The meaning of life is to find your own meaning. Congratulations, darling. ♥️ Now you are free.
@pietropanetta3329
@pietropanetta3329 3 года назад
So moving to hear your story. Thank you for being so brave.
@ExFundieDiaries
@ExFundieDiaries 3 года назад
Thank you so much!!
@eternal4654
@eternal4654 2 года назад
Once you deny Christianity, you will surely deny the existence of Jesus Christ, the guy from Nazareth in Israel. After that, you will also deny, sooner or later, the existence of Heaven and Hell. And finally, you will also deny the existence of life after death. For you, once you are, you're dead. All that matters to you now is the life on this world, this material world. For you, there is not such things like sin, human soul, eternity, judgment, and eternal life. [One day,a young man talked to Padre Pio, and told the priest, "Father, hell does not exist." The priest just gently told him, "Don't worry. You will believe once you're there."]
@dodget3
@dodget3 2 месяца назад
I love to hear these stories, i like it even more that Christians are desperately trying to keep you on their team. I love watching their numbers dwindle. I love watching them watch it even more. It's comforting, the thing that has oppressed me my whole life is finally dying.
@melanyebaggins
@melanyebaggins 3 года назад
You just described what I've been going through over the past month. "The line is dead. There's nothing there." I left christianity in my early twenties, but then latched onto orthodox judaism because all those rules will tell me exactly what I have to do for god to love me! I left that three years ago (after fifteen years of being strictly orthodox), but still clung to belief in god. A month ago, I had my world upended by a realization. And now the line is dead. Your videos are so damn important. You're speaking what I'm feeling. Thank you so so much.
@favormine
@favormine 2 года назад
Thanks for your honesty. For me it was the list of "Do's and Don'ts" that made me feel inadequate and further away from God. Finally I decided to leave church, not saying everyone should, but I needed to be uninfluenced and sort myself out. What I found is that religion says "Fix yourself and God/we will accept you" while the Gospel is supposed to be "Come just as you are and I will give you righteousness as a gift". Religion says "You have to work hard to stay forgiven and right" while the true Gospel is supposed to be: "With a single sacrifice I have made you perfectly accepted and irreversibly forgiven forever". Religion says "God is in love with a future version of you" while the Gospel of Grace is supposed to be: "God loves you as you are right now unconditionally and is NEVER GOING TO CHANGE". This reveals a bit of what I found. Please see my journey as I left the church in this link for more: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-WHGJZRMIA08.html Appreciate it. Nicolas
@hannahclara7929
@hannahclara7929 2 года назад
I don't think we talk enough about the pain and emptiness of losing God. We speak about the patriarchal systems we are free of, the thought patterns we deconstruct, the things we have done in the name of religion that we have to make peace with. But I think lots of people don't understand that when you have faith you have an actual real presence in your head, someone who is as real as your physical best friend but is infinitely more forgiving and powerful than a human can be. And to one day realise you don't feel them any more. Like that friend has moved away and you can't ever have them again. It's like a death. The loss is overwhelming
@ljthurlbeck8700
@ljthurlbeck8700 3 года назад
Welcome to the REAL world.
@henrylopez189
@henrylopez189 3 года назад
Who owns the real world?
@believestthouthis7
@believestthouthis7 7 месяцев назад
Satan rules this world. 2 Corinthians 4:4 KJV - In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
@gpang788
@gpang788 2 года назад
I just recently deconverted and i will say this - the greatest thing Jesus has done for all mankind is that he doesnt exist. Thank you Jesus 😇
@JazminLopez-ld1uu
@JazminLopez-ld1uu 5 месяцев назад
The thing that most people don’t understand is when life doesn’t go your way, you shouldn’t be blaming God for your actions because God gave you that free will and you obviously will get consequences to your actions, not because God chose that for you but because you chose that for yourself, and when you are praying for something or someone you gotta be patient, I have heard many people complain about timing and how they want there prayers to be answered right away but the thing about Christianity is that part of our journey with Christ is to trust his plan for us and to be patient, so you see he is real, the world has just blinded you, God bless 🙏❤️
@spoonsmith9506
@spoonsmith9506 Год назад
It's crazy how many christians never really challenge their beliefs. I'm always trying to debunk my ways of thinking.
@dande3139
@dande3139 3 года назад
Thanks for sharing! :) I've been through a similar deconstruction with Mormonism. I've been an athiest for five years now. I am happier than I was before, but I still feel the hurt and anger. The indoctrination, the abuse, the lost experiences, the lost years... the hurt I caused others ... the fact that it's still hurting my wife and family... it's not an easy journey. But it's good not to feel alone. "In Catholic school, As vicious as Roman rule, I got my knuckles bruised by a lady in black. And I held my tongue as she told me, 'Son, Fear is the heart of love, 'so I never went back." ("I'll Follow You Into the Dark" - Death Cab for Cutie)
@ExFundieDiaries
@ExFundieDiaries 3 года назад
Growing up I was taught that Christians and Mormons are totally different, but I actually relate to most of what I hear from ex-Mormons. I definitely understand the hurt and anger, especially over the lost years and experiences. I'm glad you are happier now, and I hope your wife and family are able to find happiness too. Also, I love that song! :)
@dande3139
@dande3139 3 года назад
​@@ExFundieDiaries There are other "Mormon-Exclusive" issues I have, but the foundations of Mormonism (Jesus Christ, the Bible) are the same, so there is some strong overlap on certain "problems". For example: -"Faith" being the fundamental and most important virtue. -"Apostasy" being the worst sin (worse than murder). -A strong focus on the "wrong-ness" of other belief systems (specifically Catholic). -A strong focus on proselytizing. -God as the foundation for what is "good". -A focus on the infallability of religious authority. -Using the "feelings of the Spirit" as the only infalliable evidence of truth.
@favormine
@favormine 2 года назад
Thanks for your honesty. For me it was the list of "Do's and Don'ts" that made me feel inadequate and further away from God. Finally I decided to leave church, not saying everyone should, but I needed to be uninfluenced and sort myself out. What I found is that religion says "Fix yourself and God/we will accept you" while the Gospel is supposed to be "Come just as you are and I will give you righteousness as a gift". Religion says "You have to work hard to stay forgiven and right" while the true Gospel is supposed to be: "With a single sacrifice I have made you perfectly accepted and irreversibly forgiven forever". Religion says "God is in love with a future version of you" while the Gospel of Grace is supposed to be: "God loves you as you are right now unconditionally and is NEVER GOING TO CHANGE". This reveals a bit of what I found. Please see my journey as I left the church in this link for more: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-WHGJZRMIA08.html Appreciate it. Nicolas
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