More on the Loupedeck with Cubase pleeease! This is the ONLY video I found showing Cubase. Perfect solution for those of us who do video Premiere Pro and audio with Cubase 🤩
I’ve been using Cubase for 10 years and your channel is constantly teaching me new and cool stuff. Appreciate all your video tutorials and demos like this
Hi Dom. I considered the CC121 and Softube Console 1, however, I have just bought a NEKTAR Panorama P1 Control Surface and I must say it is a fantastic piece of kit . It works brilliantly with Cubase Pro 10.5. It maps really well and has an easy learning curve. I wasn't expecting this controller to work as well as it does but it really is worth a look and is another one to consider. Great value for money too being considerably cheaper than the CC121 or the Softube. Cheers.
Same here, got it from ebay. The latest version of Cubase didn’t support it for about 3 months , I felt completely lost without it. Couple of the buttons don’t click anymore though
I know the CC121 has the AI knob and can control the stock plugins parameters in cubase, but can you tell me, How much control ,if any, does it give you with 3rd party plugins? i am looking at getting a DAW CONTROLLER and the cc121 is one of 3 on my shortlist (see my previous post !) and have been trying to find this answer for all the choices on my shortlist!!! But because i use cubase pro 10.5, not been able to get the answer at all, for the CC121, the FADERPORT 8 or the BEHRINGER X-TOUCH? The answer to this question will really help me decide which machine to finally choose to buy? Sorry for this rant, but nowhere seems to offer up to date info, not even the manufacturers? I am hoping and praying that as you have has a CC121 a long time, you may know the answer? PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!! thanks you!
The best and cheapest controllers are: a game mouse with programmable buttons (i use the Razor Naga with 12 programmable buttons on the side), then a gamer key board with programmable buttons (i use a Logitech G510) Then a midi keyboard with sliders and nobs ((i have an Arturia Keylab 88 that also has a pad section, but that is shit, unusable so..) get an Akai 16 drum pad (i have the Akai MPD218 and it only costs 75 euros or something, great for finger drumming) That’s all you need the rest is BS....or is it? All this hardware comes with software! Usable software. Akai and Arturia bring some great VST instruments. For the keyboard and the mouse, well you need one anyway, don’t you, for a few bucks more you get something really useful. A sustain pedal and “volume” pedal that you can program to anything you like. Beyond this, yes there are a lot of possibilities and we’ve only scratched the service (spelled wrong , I know, sorry about that, help me here). Breath controllers, motion controllers that you can put on your body for life performances, midi guitar controllers, new types of midi controllers ( roli Seabooard sounds very interesting but expensive) and not a first goto. First understand your CC (Continuous Controller). every keyboard has pitch and modulation; USE IT!
I looked at many controllers over the years. Back in the 1999, I had one which I believe was made by Digitech. Some stuff worked, some didn't -- it wasn't exactly what one would consider to be "compatible" with Cubase (although you must remember that in those days I was working with Cubase 3.7 VST that a computer builder gave to me, saying "I can't make head or tail out of this.") This was my introduction to many, many versions of Cubase over the years, all the way up to my current one -- Cubase 11 Pro. 22 years later, I am totally sold on Cubase. I wish I could say the same about the controllers.
Hahahaha......I was looking for a way to control my metronome volume about an hour ago. I've had a CC121 for years and didn't realise you could do that. And I only clicked on this video by accident! Thank you.
Console 1 looks great, I was thinking about buying it for months. I have now decided against it simply because it only controls Softube plugins. I want something to control Cubase EQ, pass filters, panning and track levels..... My search continues. I also want to continue to use the amazing plugins I have in my work flow. Thank you for the clarity
has to be steinberg houston ive had mine for many many years and use it all the time..its built like a tank,has flying faders,has lots of customisable shortcut buttons,has dedicated knobs for panning,fx sends,eq,it can control vsts..etc its amazing its basically a cc121 but on steroids :) at the time it came out though it failed because of a few factors.. 1)it came out at a time when people wernt fully working with vsts . 2)people couldnt understand why theyd need this over a normal mixer. 3)lots of fake news and reviews ..many of the reviews i read at the time were later found out never to have even owned one..it was also before the internet had kicked off so people could only really rely on magazines or word of mouth. 4)it was way out the price range off many users at the time..it orginally cost way over £1000 but buyers couldnt understand why it cost so much if it didnt have audio inputs so many ignored it. 5)cubase was always liked but at the time magazines and reviewers all prefered pro tools so many studios at the time only used pro tools so major studios never bought this. ... i was very very lucky i bought this many years ago when steinberg was just getting rid of there stock i bought mine from turnkey london for £199 with a copy of neuendo for free.but in all the years ive had it ive had no issues with it and its worked with every version of cubase im currently on cubase 10.5.12 and its still supported and maps automatically within cubase.steinberg dont offically support it so no firmware updates but cubase program itself still does its in the device cubase menu. if any cubase users see one for sale on ebay or in a second hand store buy it you wont be sorry just make sure you check the lcd screen is still ok there is a issue that theres bubbles in the plastic screen cover thats ok .it doesnt affect the screen o viewing mine has one or two small bubbles but in some older ones people have had bad ones and tried fixing it themselfs which have damaged some screens so double check the screens are still ok. also if you have one it has a self check calibration mode which is useful and i do mine every 6 months. heres how you do it. turn of your houston press and hold down the send masters andeq1 button power up the houston on the screen you will see calibration mode now on then youll see all the faders calibrate. when its doing this just leave the room let it do its thing ,reason why i say leave is the faders are very very sensitive so if you accidentlly touch them or blow on them etc it will not set them up as accurate as the can be so just go make a cup of tea.
Hi. Great post. I have a Houston but stopped using it because there are no current drivers. I was using it with midi cables. Is that your workaround too, or can you use a USB cable? Cheers.
Gents. When you move the real fader on the cc121. Does it move the daw fader? Mine doesn’t. If you move the daw fader with your mouse the real fader moves but not the other way round???
I do love the CC121. I've never been good with key commands but this really speeds things up, especially opening the VST instruments, which I use all the time
Nice controllers! For those on a budget, I can offer up these cheaper alternatives that I have and find useful: -Steinberg CMC series They don't actually make these anymore, but you can find used ones eBay or elsewhere. I'll state right out that I went all-in on these years ago and have every model they made, and don't use most on them. Their touch-faders look way cool but are kinda useless in practice. The ones I still use regularly are the CMC-AI (mainly for the AI knob controller that does the same mouse-over control that the CC121 does in this video), and the CMC-TP for transport control. I also use the CMC-PD to lay down quick beats, but there are other solutions out there for that;. my CMC-PD happens to still be set up in my CMC rack so it's handy. -Presonus Faderport This gives me the motorized single fader that follows whatever track you're currently on. Its transport controls are ok as well...not as tightly integrated to Cubase as the CMC-TP, but y Presonus is on the opposite side of my desk as my CMC-TP, so I have transport control capabilities wherever I happen to be facing. -Streamdeck Cheaper alternative to the Loupedeck...no variable controllers, just buttons you can assign images and keystroke macros to. I could easily live without this, but it is handy now and then. I suppose if you have a bunch of custom macros you use often and would be happier with a dedicated controller for them rather than using the keyboard it might be more useful. Just tossing it out there for what its worth in case you can pick these up cheap.
Great video Dom. I've used many controllers too. Mackie MCU are junk, used several of them and they die after continuous use (backlights and faders). Just switched to the SSL Nucleus2 for console-like control. I still require two hands worth of faders during mixing! Console 1 is on the list as a nice plugin interface (use a lot of UA plugins here). Also have the StreamDeck, which is a great little macro button controller for both Cubase and Wavelab and relatively inexpensive. A bit like the Loupedeck, but smaller and also fully customisable with LCD buttons and pages.
Geoff Swan Console 1 and Nucleus2 are made for each other. If you came up on SSL desks, that combo brings you home. The 4000E comes with it and beats all the others sonically. But I’m a 9000 guy, extended top and bottom, and the 9000K was the ONLY way to go......until a few weeks ago with Brainworks 9000J. Haven’t yet compared, but Michael Brauer helped them develop it, and has me convinced that it is The One! That said, unless it’s night and day, which it won’t be, nothing beats the hands on control of Console 1.
You got in my head, man. After this video I ordered a CC121 then quickly ended up grabbing a used Console1 mk2 with the Fader 1 combo- within 24 hours.
Great Video! And YES....please make dedicated reviews of each of those 3 controllers, as well as the TC collection you have peeking over your shoulder.
Another great vid to help me decide my move from Studio One. I asked in your Mixer vid, but this is more relevant here... 1. Does the CC121 keep you off the mouse and keyboard for the most part? Does the pan work with the panning & width of the combined panner? 2. I'm also considering a Console 1 and Console 1 Fader combo. I know you don't have the Fader, but what would you miss if you only had the C1 and not the CC121? 3. I have a lot of 3rd party, non Softube plugins, like the PA SSL plugin you used the CC121 on. Have you mapped any 3rd party plugins to the CC121 or C1? If so, is it a similar experience to controlling Cubase or Softube plugins? Thanks!
Hey Dom, A deeper dive into your experience with Loupedeck would be highly appreciated! Thank you for sharing your thoughts about CC121 and Console1, too! :-)
Man, I wish cubase would make dedicated controllers again! That ableton push is such an INCREDIBLE demonstration of what's possible. Sometimes I'm trying to get some controller to work and I just feel like selling every damn thing and getting the Push 2 and a good laptop 😂
I'm up for an in depth review of the Loupedeck CT and Cubase. Been considering it for a while to use with Premiere Pro, Lightroom and AE. Nice reviews dude
i love my CC121......i only wish there was a way to operate the low and high cut pre filter buttons and it would be awesome if the function knob acted as an Alt button for the four function knobs which would allow us to have eight functions assigned instead of just four..... i use it for 1 and 2: set snap value up or down, 3: activate and deactivate cycle follows range markers and 4: open/close right zone and the function knob controls my main mix volume... i'd be interested to know more about how the banks option in the 121 work because i haven't got a clue
Did you ever make a full video dedicated to LOOPDECK CT? I am thinking about getting one because of it's compatibility with all the programs I use. It supports Cubase and I LOVE THIS.
Using the Stream Deck and I love it. Just waiting for Dom to fully review the Loupedeck CT. I rely on Dom's opinions to make studio purchases. Thank you my friend.
Great video Dom. I'm a user of the CC121 and have been for many years. It was a great investment. It was nice to know that you use it and have been for many years too. I think I might re-assign one of my function buttons after watching what you do with yours! 👍 Just a side note Dom. I have mentioned it in the comments of your A/B video (which you link to in this one) for reference tracks. You need to make clear that the blue button marked Cues (in the Control Room) needs to be to activated for it to work as you have shown in the video. Just a thought... 😉
Looking at buying a Nektar Panorama T6 (not P6) ... looks like great integration ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-mbRtT6ovfvE.html , and they say they have optimized it to Cubase
I use an old Mackie Control and are happy with it. I decided for years for the Mackie Control because I need the ability to solo and mute several channels at the same time which isn't easy with a one channel controller.
Hiii Dom.. just can't wait to see how exciting this gets just as all your other stuff... Specially wanna know a reasonably priced controller for the cubase mixer.. God bless & Love from Sri Lanka... Rezi Ahamed...!
Love the customisable Loupedeck. I use Metagrid on my iPad which has a similar approach and can add anything from CC & note data, keyboard shortcuts and even Logical Editor presets.
Hi. I have a brand new Arturia Keylab 88 Mk 2. I bought it because of all in one functions (good keys, pads, faders and knobs). But I discovered a lot of problems when I connected it in Cubase 11. I have a Faderport 16 also for mixing. It is connected with Mackie Control in Cubase and faders and transport buttons (play, stop, forward and so on) are working good. I need the Arturia’s faders and knobs just as a VST instruments CC controllers. I use a Spitfire instruments and always need CC 1, CC 11, CC 21 and more… I connected my Arturia in Cubase same way as a Faderport 16 (Mackie Control) and use a DAW mode. When I push a Arturia transport buttons (play, stop, forward) and move faders up and down, Faderport 16 faders are mowing same time and buttons are on. I tried to setup Arturia in Cubase in Generic Mode, then Track Quick Controls and VST Quick Controls mode, but no results. In Arturia MIDI Control center I have changed faders and knobs address (CC function) but in Cubase it works just in User Mode without transport buttons, track controls and global controls. My question is: How can I activate Arturia faders and knobs as a CC controllers, and transport buttons (play, stop, forward and so on) in DAW mode (no user mode), and same time use a faderport 16 faders as a mixer? I don’t need Faderport transport buttons. I need just Arturia transport buttons. Thank you
Hi Dom, thanks for this video. I have CC121 and was wondering what other surface to buy, your input was great, I've ordered a softube. Please make a video on Loupedeck CT.
The best controller for Cubase 12 - after the production of the Steinberg CC121 has ceased - for me is the PreSonus FaderPort V2 (one fader) together with the new version (08.08.2023) of the midi remote script written by Werner Mairegger with the extensions written by Christian Oestmann. The new version of this script can be found in the Cubase Steinberg Forum under the topic "PreSonus FaderPort 2 (2018) midi remote script".
When are you going to make full tutorials beginning to end finish cubase project you are a good teacher Dom. And passionate about music and oh yeah Cubase.
On my side I control Cubase with a combination of Avid Artist (using Eucon protocol), which is pretty limited integration wise, but I love the 8 motorized faders + the LCD screens which allow me to look where I am in my session without looking at Cubase, and a Stream Deck XL from Elgato, which I use in combination with Keyboard Maestro for very advanced macros.
I just bought a loupe deck CT. It is arriving next week. Thanks for this video. I wondered what computer keyboard you are using. That thing looks sweet. Let us know. Thanks!
Hi Dom! My name is Alex. I'm from Russia. Thanks for your very interesting Cubase reviews. I also use Console 1. Saw your review on Loopedeck CT. I liked it very much. How stable is Loopedeck on Windows? Can it be controlled by a VST instrument? I also use the ToucheSE midi controller. Very good controller. Thanks again for your work. Regards, Alex
I use the Nektar Panorama P1. It’s a well integrated controller that does a lot and helps my workflow, although it is often glitchy. Sometimes it’ll suddenly stop connecting to Cubase and won’t until it’s restarted. @nektar should update the drivers perhaps.
I very much would like to see a video on Console 1! I have one and would love to see how you are using it with Cubase. Do you use it on Audio/Instrument tracks only or do you also use it on Groups/FX channels (or Masterbus even)? Tips and tricks are appreciated! Also, I wonder if you can use the CC121 with the new Cubase comparison EQ? I am thinking of buying one after seeing this video. Thanks for another great video!
i do like the ease of use of the CC121 with it being specifically for cubase, but, i just think it is overpriced a bit! ( and so is that LOUPEDECK!!!!) I am currenntly in the process of looking at controllers to enhance my workflow etc , but some of the ones that i have been starting to look at are not in this video? Been looking at various ones to try and decide which to go for? Great video Dom as always, i would be interested to hear your thoughts on some of the other controllers out there, like X-TOUCH, FADERPORT and some of the more budget friendly ones? Maybe you could do a controllers video part two?
Six months ago I bought this controller with Thomann.de. Drivers didn't work with Cubase 10 either new or old, I couldn't get this unit started. Sent it back. It's amazing how Steinberg's technicians can't fix communication between hardware and software.
how bout Nektar Panorama? Surely it is better to have 16 faders, screen, and deep integration than one? All macros, all complex commands can be mapped to one button, plugins are auto mapped, encoders work as beasts, you can re-route what you want...and there is an automated recall fader, pretty much like one from Steinberg. I am mentioning DAW control, MIDI, but also transport, selection, audio, cutting, scrubbing, warping, literally what you want, plus it is on your keyboard, which then is mapped to all possible software and hardware you have. For me that is the best all around controller - asking for full weight keys would be too much. As composer and producer of very large content, Panorama goes as my main controller, together with Doepfer.
Hey Dom, great stuff, as always! Would you consider making a studio tour? Nevertheless, I would love to listen your opinion about these Adam little beasts. Stay safe, man
I think Loupedeck has the same concept of Elgato StreamDeck where you link macros to the touch screen assignable buttons. But the latter is more easy to learn and of course cheaper.
The same controller since 2008 (Cubase 4), Tascam FW-1082 which is also a FireWire audio/MIDI interface... 14 Years! Of course it is out of market... I wish I could have an SSL Nucleus 2 and I don't understand why SSL stop producing it...
Yes, a video on the Loupedeck would be great. Does the software for it allow you to control the speed/acceleration of a knob that is mapped to any zoom setting?
Thank you so much for your video!! Very informative and well done! I'm still trying to setup for quality live music streaming. Do you do live sessions? And what's your setup/flow for being able to do so (playing for your audience, talking to them, ability to listen to yourself play via headphones or monitors without doubling up, etc) thank you!
Aaaah yes!!!! I love Komplete Kontrol although I tend to use it more for controlling softsynths and NI stuff :) but it’s a decent controller for sure and works great with Cubase!
Nektar Panorama P6 is another good one that reaches f a r into Cubase, and Akai MPD218 for ultra smooth Akai 4x4 pads and I also have an old Behringer BCR2000 which is old but sooo usefull.
Hi Dom! First of all thank you for all your videos and I wish you make deeply video how to use Softubr Console 1 with Cubase and if you may answer please, what headphones model you using for mixing and mastering? Is it Sennheiser HD650 maybe? Thank you
