My first impressions of Ableton Live 12 

Hi, please let me know what you mean by “latency issue solved”. I’ve upgraded and still see latency, which is driving me nuts. Maybe I’m missing something

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@@arseniharkunou5905From the release notes: A Keep Monitoring Latency in Recorded Audio option has been added to the [right-click](Win) / [CTRL-click](Mac) context menu of the Monitor radio buttons for each track. This option is enabled by default, but when unchecked, recordings will have the same latency as if recorded with monitoring set to Off, regardless of which monitoring mode is selected.

@@arseniharkunou5905there is always latency when monitoring but it is possible to record without it. In any version.

Ableton didn't changed how latency compensation works. This means the GUI still isn't compensated, Plugin latency compensation works fine as always, but the host transport information the plugins receive is still not compensated at all, means time based actions of devices that syncing to transport won't be compensated which is a problem when placed after stuff like a linear phase EQ etc. So unlike many people believe there aren't latency issues in the sense of flawed programming, but in design decisions and lacking options to change that behavior.

So nice to read! 💙

You know I didn’t even know that! 😁

What's this arp called? Be great to try it out

@@ShoShoUK85 It is simply called "Arp". It's part of the Max for Live Essentials pack.

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It is simply called "Arp". It's part of the Max for Live Essentials pack available at Ableton.

That's the beauty of reading the documentation of a product

I think we don't even need a shortcut, they could just temporarily hijack the focus when the mouse is hovering above the automation point for the time the value is displayed, so you can directly type in the value like it is possible everywhere else in Live for click- and editable stuff with a permanent value display, like encoders etc. If you have a Stream Deck you can easily add a multi action to a button: right click, down, left click.

@@rez9159 Would be great. How hard can it be.. I don't think I'm the only one missing this feature.

Nice

Does reason have a light version so you can try it out?

Reason’s user interface is so much nicer to look at compared to Ableton . I wish Ableton would change their interface . As practical as it is , it’s like they decided to completely ignore aesthetics.

@@bigfarma6757 yeah they did and openly admit it because the have put all their efforts into how it works. I prefer that to be honest.

Nah no need to wait! Live 12 is nice but the fundamentals if musicmaking stay the same ☺️ I’ll probably only update the course in a year or two when I’m really ready to take it in a new direction.

Hi! I'm a bit surprised that 6 tracks causes stress on your CPU - that really shouldn't be the case and sounds maybe like your buffer size is set incredibly low? Or some other issue of your audio card driver? What interface are you using? Because that's not the typical experience, even in live 11, even on a windows intel CPU. My use case is that I'm on a macbook pro m1, and this is definitely the smoothest experience I've ever had of the DAW, it doesn't lag and maxing out the CPU is pretty much unheard of. I was working on a 200 track project on Live 11, and there it was getting a bit laggy. I do bounce things to audio regularly, and I'm aware of which are the heaviest CPU drain plugins, but it's not nearly as cumbersome as what you describe...

Thank you very much for your answer. I don't understand anything about it either. My PC is optimized for PC. 512 stamps. Arturia Audiofuse 16 Rig. This result really worries me. It is true that I use vst which consumes CPU, but still. I mainly use (Omnisphere 2, Trilian, U-he, Gforce, Pigment and V collection, Avenger). But still 6 tracks is really astonishing and surprising, even with CPU-heavy VST. I even wondered if I should invest in a Mac Studio M2 Ultra. Apparently, without getting into the Mac / PC debate, Mac is more stable, better CPU load management. Which could be explained by the more defined components with a Mac.

@@PHOENIX-fb1cf yeah I was windows my whole life and switched to mac 2 years ago, and I kinda regret not switching earlier - there's a lot less worrying about settings etc, everything has been much smoother. I used to be so anti-mac, it's a funny feeling to have transitioned :) but yeah you don't need a maxed out rig to just run some VSTs.

Many thanks for your response. I think I'll move to Mac too. For Mao only and to be really quiet with big vst projects (100 vst instrument tracks). I was thinking about a Mac Studio M2 Max. Would the Mac Mini M2 pro be sufficient or would it be better to take the Mac Studio M2 Max anyway? Thanks again for your reply.

@@PHOENIX-fb1cf I don't really feel qualified to answer that I'm afraid, as I have no affiliation with mac or ableton. All I can say is my M1 feels very powerful and I'm never getting blocked while producing :)

Heya! Honestly I'd say just go all-in on Live 12. All tutorials about Live 11 still apply, they just added more features, they took away basically nothing. That's my advice anyway :)

Thank you mate. I didn't see a notification so late seeing this. Thank you for the reply. I'll download 12

Everything in the course still applies ☺️ so I wont be re-filming it any time soon just for Live 12, I’ll only update the course once I really have new concepts I think it needs to have. I would say go ahead! In the worst case scenario, I always refund no questions asked :)

You keep 11 installed and install 12 alongside it! That way you can use 11 for the projects youre still working on, but new projects start in 12!

Good to know, I didn't immediately find it :) I find it's not a problem with a mac trackpad, but I remember using windows computers and scrolling around felt a lot more awkward.

What did that cost you? I need to update my Mac if I want to use 12 but weighing up the pro's and con's weather or not just to sell my licence and try a different DAW.

A brand new m2 16gb 512 sssd 1700e, cheaper since the m3air entered the game.

Hehe you’re right, I regret mentioning the 303 specifically hehe. I was thinking more like, monophonic step sequencers and maybe xox sequencers, might have been more correct.👍

What processor do you have?

Same here, and I was gutted when I found out but I'm still happy with 11. Unfortunately I am half way through paying up a electric drum kit before I can even start getting the cash together for a more up-to-date Mac.

You should look elsewhere than mac! 😂

@@cMaXeJIJIo why? Everyone I work with use Mac, no driver updates that usually cause even more problems than what they solve and every Mac I have had, I've never had any problems with.

Indeed ableton upgrades are paid! FL studio seems to be doing very well indeed, but havent had a chance to investigate and i wouldn’t consider switching myself now :) but if i was just starting out now, might have gone FL instead!

Yep we pay for Live updates. I still think Live has an edge over FL with the Max devices. The cloud and the AI stems are nice but you can easily do both with 3rd party platforms. Like you said, FL is great for beginners (I started with Fruity Loops in 1999 lmao).

@@Positive_Teathat was a very different FL back then 😂

I think that once you pick a daw it's hard to swap, I've been with them since 4 and I tried others but because I know where everything is. I just like a daw to make music on everything after that process is secondary and I don't even need to rush anything out right away.

No way. You see way too much people switching from Fruity Loops to Ableton Live nowadays, very rarely the other way around. Ableton Live is an upgrade at every aspect. Only thing I’m missing from my old days (12 years) in Fruity Loops is the step sequencer.

It's not about how it looks though, it about how it works. Garage band looks great but it's a pig to use.

Best tracks are made with minimal gear. 😊

@@NNokia-jz6jb my favorite synths are Korg DS-10 (gameboy DS) and Synth1 (free) hehe

@@danhectic5629 enough.

Honest! I like it

Recommendations for those of us who can't upgrade due to AVX2?

@@karlstenator FL Studio. Or maybe the new Sonar (old one was good for sure) 😂