My First Look At The New Electric Cadillac Optiq! Interior / Exterior Tour, Battery, Charging & More 

Volvo EX90 claims to charge over 600 amps at ~400 volts via CCS chargers that can support it. It's sometimes OK to go Out Of Spec as long as temperature is monitored and safe.

I doubt it. I thought Ultium is pouch cell by design? Which means the real limitation is cooling the pouches during DC charging.

@@chrisss73841No he's correct. Ultium cells and modules were optimized so the larger truck battery packs can do 350kW. So in turn the smaller the battery, the lower the charging performance.

"Hopefully later when the vehicle comes native with NACS it can accept the higher amperage of NACS and charge at a faster rate." NACS doesn't specify a current limit, only a maximum connector interface temperature of 105C, so I really hope GM pushes fast charging more with NACS. 296V nominal for an EV battery pack in 2024 is wild.

Thanks for the explanation.

Tesla "thats within spec" 😂

My first thought was, I think there’s a micro business opportunity 3d printing snap on buttons to cover those holes. Tha handle is in the field of view.

@@_Hao_Nguyen_ No, that's GM. Everybody knows GM quality is always terrible.

Pretty sure Tesla and GM are about equal on build quality… neither are very good. I love my Tesla, but I’m willing to admit that build quality is not their strong suit. Come to think of it, have any American car companies ever been known for build quality?

@@GraysonCarr Depends on the model year. Early in the models, yes. But also, like the highland...better overall lately too. Recall that EVs NEED to be ligthweight too.

True but I'd imagine these ultium cars will cost a lot less OTD. I know plenty of people with Teslas who never ever road trim. So the advantage of Hyundai/KIAs fast charging is not always that useful. Especially if you can't get the max charge rate from a supercharger

Agree. People need to get over wanting stupid fast 0-60 times. Completely unneeded and for a lot of drivers, probably dangerous. My 1985 vw GTI had 90 horsepower and I loved it for 16 years. My wife's Bolt EUV would completely blow it away, but who really needs that? Find a way to get longer range instead of faster drag times.

No one what or care 3sec whatever. 90% of general buyers want useable speed and long range instead

@@theredmonkey in comparison to other cars yeah its slower. But ur right I get tunneled vision with my MY 4.5s which I don't step on it often because that is dangerous. At some point (5s) the 0-60 time becomes irrelevant and range emerges. For a non towing CAR, a solid 250-300mi is the sweet spot. Often times mfg advertise 300mi, but if u want your battery to last, u get 250, and if ur carrying 4 adult size occupants u would get even less.

Just goes to show how bad GM at making EVs.

You are very typical. Only 1/2 of 1% of trips in the U.S. are over 100 miles and only 1/10 of 1% are over 500 miles. Also people that charge at get the first charge without fast charging. Most everyone still has access to a gas car, plus a lot of people fly when a trip is over 500 miles.

@ArbitraryFilmings, While some years there are 2 or 3 trips, typically we see less than 1 road trip per year where we travel more than 250 miles in a day. Why would we focus the requirements for our next vehicle to handle something we do in roughly 0.3% of our trips? My wife average about 70 miles of driving per day. For that, a small, luxurious, efficient EV that we charge at home overnight for $0.083/kWh CAD ($0.061/kWh USD) will do well. We'd also like to be able to handle at least 1 day worth of a power failure at home and still be able to make it to work the next day, so we estimate that also would work well with a 300+ mile EV (80% of 300 = 240 miles - 2×70×1.4 = 40 miles of buffer; the 1.4 is for cold winter driving and the 80% is our expected daily charge). On weekends we often go to the cottage, which is about 100 miles away and we can't reliably charge an EV there, but with 300 miles of range and and the ability to do some, minimal charging there, we should be able to take the EV when we don't have much to bring. We also travel about 200 miles once every two months, so again, a 300+ mile EV should be able to handle it when our loads are small. We've thought through our requirements in detail, and for us, a small, luxurious, efficient, 300+ mile EV that we charge overnight is what we've decided we want. We believe this is the most cost-effective option for us to comfortably handle our transportation needs. Neither of us wants to stop and wait for our car to fill up with energy while on our longer trips. Most of the time, on trips that are over 300 miles, we need a bigger vehicle too. Even now, every few years, we end up renting a van to fit everything in. We don't have a problem driving a "gas guzzling ICE vehicle" 600 to 800 miles out of every 30,000 miles that we travel annually. Keep in mind too that ICE vehicles are actually reasonably efficient on the highway. Not EV efficient, but much better than how ~95% of the population drives their ICEV to/from work in stop and go traffic every day.

@@Slider68 So on your 300 miles journey, you drive non-stop without any breaks?

What's your source on that? I can't find anything changing on this in the last year.

Yes, but standards here differ from global requirements, and no matrix systems meet our completely ridiculous and uncalled for standards that are different than ECE markets. No cars have matrix functionality in the US yet.

Plastic can recycled into plastic tho😂 Recycled just means it was re-used or repurposed

Vehicles are made with metal and plastic…most “vegan leather “ is just plastic……and “leather” made with apple pulp are still 50% plastic.

What do these two sentences have to do with each other?

@@kd7lxl If you don’t know, I don’t either 🤷🏾‍♂️

FSD (vision only with no pre mapping) is also hands free now if not wearing sunglasses.

Disappointed he didn't use a pointer stick.

It's too bad the charging (and likely the real world range) wont stack up

The new Y will change that. (Unless you like lots of buttons and more small screens.)

No better speakers, included super cruise, better material, memory seats

I drive the equinox the other day. I really liked it. Love the super cruise. It was the RS.

The Equinox EV has too many omissions for me to consider it seriously. My 22 EUV Premier has more features than the Equinox for almost half the price.... No Bose, mirror camera - it doesn't even have a wireless phone charger!

with super high depreciation just buy a few year old used EV. It will have 95% of the features of a brand new ev at 40% the price.

Problem is this is changing all the time. Top EV like Tesla had very little depreciation as supply chains were hit by the pandemic. All cost of goods went up, prices went up...terrible time to buy and folks who did had a big deprec hit they could have avoided. Now is actually a great time to buy due to the incentives being more clear, costs down and reliability way up for more mature models. Leases are highly variable, depend on the dealerships and are only occasionally better if the vehicle doesn't qualify for incentives but the dealership will pass thru. As the tech is evolving fast too, the decision to sell at 3 years depends on what you bought at the time. I'd be wary of most of the legacy EVs for a few reasons to include lack of dealership support, waiting on NACS, obsolete battery tech (Ultium), the flood of Chinese vehicles in many regions and terrible software/charging networks. Go with the top sellers, read up on safety (Tesla is tops far and away).

Different people are going to want different stuff. The U.S. Department of Transportation says only 1/2 of 1% of car trips are over 100 miles. Only 1/10 of 1% of car trips are over 500 miles. Plus many people fly for trips over 500 miles. Out of Spec needlessly seems to take straw man swipes at people that they assume don’t agree with them - in this video, owners of Leafs and Bolts that must like slow charging.

@@camarilloconcerns8782I suspect that even more people who have the $ to buy a Cadillac are going to have a home charger. The Cadillac buyer tends to be older (less interested in 0 -60 times) live in the suburbs (have a garage w/Level 2) and be more interested in a “Cadillac ride”, upscale interior and less road noise. It is not the young urban apartment, roadtripping BMW crowd. Marketing needs to have a long talk with Engineering.

Still should be better. Having slower charge speed also means they take up more time at a public charger which affects others.

no! I like the MY looks too... its cute! too many angles with GM products!

I call my MY Moby Dick, the white whale. Meaning that it is a great value family hauling car, but not beautiful.

I lovee Tesla, but i have to say GM has THE best looking EV on the market, especialy Lyriq, its extremly gorgeous car.

I’m a Tesla owner, and you’re right, this has better styling than Model Y. Very nice looking. But, with that terrible charging performance, outdated software, and likely no software updates, I just couldn’t. I do use my Tesla for road tripping, and it charges 20-80% in ~20 minutes. Over 40 minutes is just too long. And once you experience bi-weekly OTA software updates that regularly add and improve features and keep the car interesting, it would be really hard to go back to the old school model. Would you buy a smartphone that was never going to get updates, and that you might keep for 10 years? That’s how I feel about my car now

Bolt doesn't show a number but does show a 0-100% chart in 5% increments with 25% hash marks. Anyone who can read a chart can instantly intuit the percentage.

From the Equinox EV drive review, they found a cluster mode which does show charge as a pct. Presume that same mode is in this one, although Cadillac does seem to split sport and luxury.

Tight integration with the computer I keep in pocket and the apps and data plan I already have.

@@cypvh74 Tesla does this w/o needing to pay Apple...

LOL...legacy auto software is not good enough. And you still benefit from OTA even with the best software up front.

the next gen Mach E will likely be coming out at the same time.

Sorry to hear that. Hopefully it will get better soon.

OTA better be coming as it was a selling point for the long-term success of Ultium. I was an early Volt adopter. My car spent quite a bit of time with service for software issues in the beginning but once it was figured out I had over 100,000 miles of amazing driving with that car until I bought a Model 3. 4 years in to production and Tesla still couldn’t build a good car. My car had 7 visits in 3 months for unrelated issues. I spent more time in the rental RAV4 from Enterprise than my Model 3 and the Service Center joked about it. I eventually gave up and went back to GM. Stick it out with the Lyriq; I have faith it will be great.

The latest dealer update supposedly enables over the air updates again, which were enabled last year but then got disabled because of updates causing problems.

I'm sure they will sort out the software issues and you will then still have a car better than a Model Y.

@@youtubeaccount9808 The car has a lot of potential; however, at the moment, I’m dealing with 5 different “known” issues. My Lyriq just spent a week at the dealership, so hoping the latest software updates are going to help. My biggest gripes right now are poor battery thermal management and system lag.

R2 is a long ways out. Just go Model Y like everyone else, then get a fun wrap.

@@mowensmd nope. Y is not even a consideration.

If they add the refreshed model 3 features to the model y its pretty much on par with this car for less and will charge better

3 more year's or LESS and that should happen, it's gonna take semi solid state cells and solid state cells though. Semi solid state cells are just now entering production over in china. Solid state cells should start next year and both should be ramping up throughout 2026-2028. The semi solid state cells are 30-40% better in energy density at the pack level and can allow up to 500kw charging. Sakuu says their solid state no metal 3d printed cells are over 35% more energy dense and up to 7% cheaper at the cell level per kwh than the tesla 4680 cell is. Per the latest munro live video released earlier today!

Recently had a rare DCFC charging stop in my model 3 that maxed out at 150kw because that’s what the station was rated for, and it was honestly annoyingly fast. Not enough time to go get lunch while we waited, so had to just sit and wait with the car for for 20 minutes. Nothing wrong with 150kw.

So far there are ~3 cars that can do that range on a single charge and none of them are suv's

If you're blind

I think this car is tall friendly but you could always test it

Well said especially for a 2025 model year ev! But the ultium platform was approved since Sep of 2017 so it's old news already. 😀👍🏻

Or the front passenger side. Either will work well with Tesla chargers and front passenger works better for on street charging

Towing, don't want to unhitch.

Could have something to do with where the charge controller is located in the car. You want the charge port as close to that as possible. Ground-up EVs have more flexibility I’m design but EVs built on ICE car platforms are limited on how to package components

@@lemongavineThis is a ground up EV. GMs truck EVs have the charge port in the rear. This was a concious decision.

The worst spot for towing and the wrong side for curb-side charging?

Hmm ok that's fair

I really want an electric Traverse.

For the 2026 model year they are launching the Cadillav Vistiq three row suv which given their ev strategy will be followed by an electric traverse.

Yes, the Vistiq will be next, which is 3 row. That should hopefully eventually translate to the other GM brands.

They are eventually doing a Escalade EV.

Well 85% of new car buyers in 2023 here in America were homeowners with six figure household incomes and financed the majority of the principle amount for their vehicle purchase of choice. So they have a driveway and reliable electricity to charge an ev up with daily! And since ev adoption this year here is around 8-10%? Don't need to worry about apt or condo dwellers for a few more years at least!

@4literv6 hopefully as evs become more commonplace, landlords will add lvl2s to their parking lots, even if the renters have to pay the electicy or a monthly fee.

BTW, almost 50K miles 14 months on my ID 4 , charge to 100% daily (32 amps), once a month dcfc. maybe 5% degradation

That only applies to road trips or folks who don't have access to home charging. For 99% of my driving, I could care less about the dcfc rate on my '24 Model Y.

@@mowcowbelland on road trips, most people like to stop for 30 to 40 minutes after 5 hours of driving to get something to eat.

That was my thought!! I am 6'4" also and fit great in my Mach-e. I drove an Equinox rental last year and it felt cramped.