As someone who was not a Jackson fan but a victim of a genuine creep thank you for checking out Square One. I've learnt a lot since I got into this topic after watching Leaving Neverland (which, sorry, I didn't find convincing at all... I found the total lack of any actual evidence, a very manipulative, one-sided narrative (why do they sell the soundtrack to it? Who's buying music of their fave scenes of child abuse allegations?) , and the way they acted while describing supposedly traumatic experiences really suspicious and it made me want to really find out the truth cos these guys weren't telling it), and yeah I despise the frauds and have a lot more respect for Jackson and heck, I wish I'd appreciated him more when he was around. Wade Robson in 2011 begged the creators of the then-in-development Cirque Du Soleil MJ One tribute show for a job (he had already quit to do something else that didn't work out), he was denied. So then he starts working on a book about how he was abused... by the guy he had just begged to be in a tribute show about? And his claim was publicly announced the SAME day (7th May 2013) that the show was publicy announced...as if he was trying to sabotage the show out of spite for not re-hiring him? As you say, Safechuck's family business was hit by a huge lawsuit in April 2013. Then he sees in May 2013 Robson on TV talking about 'abuse' and thinks hey... I know a way we can get millions to cover the lawsuit, I was one of Jackson's friends too! And got the same lawyers. Those lawyers then tried to get another of Jackson's then friends, Jonathan Spence, harassing him to the point where he's actually joined Taj Jackson in a developing another counter-documentary. I mean.. .even just this small sample of the timeline should be enough for anyone with a rational mind to think "hm.. something seems a bit odd" and want to look more into it before jumping on pro-Jackson posts on social media calling him vile things. Oh and yeah Jordan Chandler's description never matched. In fact the people who say the description did match have all given totally contradictory descriptions of it themselves. And Jackson's mother Katherine was asked in court if Jackson had any surgery to alter it's appearance. Why would a mother be asked a super-awkward question like that if it did match? Another thing is Robson & Safechuck both lied about the 2005 trial. Robson claims he was forced by subpoena. And Safechuck claims Jackson begged him to testify. PI Scott Ross who dealt with that case confirms Robson never got a subpoena, he WANTED to testify, and Safechuck had already been considered as a 'non-entity' 7 or 8 months before so would have nothing to do with the trial anyways. Anyways I could go on all night with all the stuff I've learnt about this case but eh that's enough. :P But yeah this whole thing really opened my eyes to just how deceitful people and the media can be. Let's remember that the tabloids were mocking & bullying Jackson well before any allegations. In the mid 80s the British tabloid trash like The Sun had already nicknamed him 'wacko jacko' and made fun of him having a pet chimp (which was odd... who cares what animal you have for a pet?) or sleeping in a cryo-chamber to extend his life (the photo was of the hyperbaric chamber he used briefly to treat his burns from the Pepsi accident, and the money of which he got from that he put straight into a burns unit center for other people). I don't trust any of the media now. Or documentaries at face value. Leaving Neverland is so dishonest and to see it regarded as 'excellent' by other supposed good documentary makers doesn't make me find it more credible, it just makes me now doubt the credibility of their own documentaries. Why should I believe anything presented to me as is? A documentary or news report is fine, but I think people should always feel they should fact check things even a bit just to make sure. It would be great if we could simply trust everything we see and hear as truth, but unfortunately too many members of our species are quite happy to lie to suit their own means and purposes. Ok i typed too much. Sorry. Been a rough day with some of my own issues and I guess this helped take my mind off those a lil bit by focusing here. You're cool. Stay safe and well during this bizarre year. :) And thanks again for checking out Square One. Am so tired of people believing cash-grabby frauds exploiting the real horror and trauma of genuine victims when there is SO MUCH evidence proving they are lying. Ok night night. :)
Thank you Carn. You're a very insightful, intelligent guy and thanks for enlightening those that may have no idea on this subject. Also, thanks so much for indirectly helping those that, by reading your words & experiences are helped and inspired. Night night to you too & be safe & well.
Wow, thanks for all the extra content and background - appreciate the detail. It seems there are so many lies around MJ. Such a shame that an apparently good man has had his name dirtied in such a way.
@@martheresa7550 but that's the truth. James Safechuck was never sued, his parents were. The case got settled anyway before the making of leaving Neverland.
Thank you for this. My hubby who isn't even a Michael fan finds the accusations in Leaving Neverland hilarious and despicable. Suing for 1 BILLION DOLLARS, Suddenly realizing they were "molested" years after MJs passing, even though they're grown adults who had lots of sxual encounters prior and other shady stuff. Come on, MJ haters, let the man rest in peace.
Great insight. Square One is very effective. There’s none of the emotional manipulation that I feel Leaving Neverland is based upon. They had to go overboard with all the graphic details in LN to compensate for the lack of substantial evidence, imo. Square One simply presents the facts and timelines as they exist. You can easily look it all up. I read the court transcripts from 2005 btw and am appalled by what the media didnt report. That whole trial was a hot mess joke, but I digress. Regarding Safechuck, I learned the family waste management business was sued for millions. Interestingly Wade who at that point was “working alone” comes forward with the allegations on national TV. Suddenly days later, Safechuck is triggered and decides to hire Wades atty and join the lawsuit. Both their stories of when they realized they’d been abused has changed multiple times. Wade had already exhausted efforts to get a book deal which would have detailed the alleged abuse but no publisher wanted it. He’d also already tried to sue the Estate under seal hoping he could get them to quietly settle but that was rejected and now the case is under appeal. I will always maintain that Wade asked Safechuck to join his lawsuit to pressure the Estate to settle once and for all...then here comes LN which was created for the purpose of bolstering their case. This is my belief especially after the lies and inconsistencies have already been exposed in prior testimonies. Plus Wade knows there’s no US law protecting the deceased, so essentially he can say what he wants. Wade in particular, has perjured himself too many times to count. He was deposed two months before LN began filming and he still couldn’t keep his story straight. Please watch Lies of Leaving Neverland here on RU-vid. I know u said you were done 😂 but it’s worth it to be aware of all the provable lies. Whew ok that was a long post. 👀🤯 Sorry about that!
That was always weird to me though. It made it seem so much less believable. When victims share the graphic and humiliating accounts of being abused you can see the emotional toll it takes on them. Especially if you imagine this is their first big time going public. Yet they talk about it like it's nothing. Like it's describing the weather on some days. Safechuck laughs and smiles, Wade covers his mouth to stop laughing at points. There's zero emotional pull to stories of almost a decade worth of horrific sexual violence. Zero humiliation, shame, embarrassment. Yet they claim that's why they failed to come forwards. The emotional incongruence blew me away.
@@MarlaSingersCancer Yeah. My experience happened ten years ago this year and I still can't talk about it without shaking and getting very emotional and basically wanting to have never have existed at all and I have certainly never talked about it in that much detail, even privately to my doctor it's a more 'censored' version. Their reaction and lack of appropiate emotion when talking in explicit detail is one of the huge issues I had when watching it.
@@MarlaSingersCancer Also if u r speaking a true event then U didn't need lies. U didn't need to keep ring gifted by your so called abuser for 30 damn years still it fits to your finger & takes 2 different location to shoot wearing a ring scene 4 a Documentary like this .
Carnivius , agree 100% ,im sorry for the horrific experience happened to you in the past, what leaving Neverland is trying to do is a shame for the true victims like you, you explained the true feelings and the trauma a true victim goes through and wade and James absolutely have none of that, wish you all the best for your future ,god bless.💗✌🙏
Thank you so much for making this video and taking the time to look at both sides of the story. You are right about Safechuck. He was embroiled in a legal battle before LN for allegedly stealing from a business partner. He and Robson definitely have an agenda.
Also important to note that this journalist also went into this leaning towards thinking MJ was guilty but thought it was fair to at least research the other side of the story since it’s never reported in the media or covered covered in any other documentaries on the topic. While doing this he found the truth that can be proven with hard, undeniable evidence. Also, as far as the quality of the documentary itself when compared to Leaving Neverland.... There are no professional sets with special lighting, wardrobe, hair and makeup artists, reshoots etc. There’s also no professional directorial or editing tricks with camera angles, dramatic music, and so on. This is because Leaving Neverland had an HBO budget and tons of media attention because it fits their profitable narrative. It was also very profitable for HBO, the director, the 2 accusers and the media. Square One was a gentleman who did his journalistic duty to actually investigate and research the facts before coming to his own opinion. All his editing went into letting viewers see and/or hear the hard evidence he found. All public documents available online aside from his phone interviews with previous court witnesses. He did it as a nonprofit and I believe any money made from its release he gave to the Jackson estate. We need people in the media like this guy!
Good review. Square One was well researched that highlights the other side of the story with facts/court documents. I hope Jordan comes forward one day & tells the truth and puts all this nonsense to bed.
So do I but what are the chances of that? He may be prepared to support MJ in a classroom but in front of the world's media, when they'll start asking questions about all the money his dad defrauded off MJ, and he's been living on, I doubt it. Sadly.
ScrewTheSystem That’s the issue, the chances are low. I think the Jackson estate needs to get involved in some capacity. Maybe a letter/press release to the media instead of showing his face to the world might be a better idea? Who knows.
@@Amit_l92 R U serious ? MJ estate is a Crazy , Lazy group of people only interested in Making profits rather preserving his Legacy. Till this date this estate haven't done a Single good Movie/ Documentary regarding MJ even after making billions .
Thank you for speaking out against the absolute injustices from both media and law enforcement regarding the MJ allegations. Square One TOTALLY shines a new (true) light.
Jame's father co owned a company which was sued in Apr 2013. That lawsuit was served to James Safechuck Sr. on May 16 2013. soon James Jr went to a therapist to accuse MJ of molestation. The lawsuit first demanded 800 000 in damages but it went up to 24 million later on. There is no question the Safechucks had a financial motive to accuse MJ and sue his estate for money. They settled the lawsuit which means they paid, unknown how much but it could be a substantial loss which the Safechucks are hellbent on recovering by pushing the lawsuit against Mj's companies, after his creditor claim was dismissed.
Well, Wade Robson was/is also in very very big financial problems. Both of them are facing a mountain of debts. They sued for settling money in the first place, from the MJ companies, but that does not seem to work as they wanted. I wonder how came, or who brought Reed in contact with the two accusers! This would be very interesting to know. After MJ died, I studied everything about him for over 7000 hours. I never was a fan, but loved his music. Now I am a huge fan. He changed my life completely for the better, and since then it is not possible for me to read a newspaper or hear or see news on radio or tv. You are so right : ignore the media ! They are worth NOTHING ! I believe 100% that MJ is innocent, but such a thing cannot and never be proven. What can be proven though is that WR and JS are consistently lying over and over again. Thank you so much for your wise and thoughtful comment.
@@JoeBarnesAuthorI think we both know why LN didn't mention it, they avoided everything that might cast doubt, let alone the stories in LN are different to the lawsuits. John ziegler has done some good bits as well
To an extent, yes. However, what I loved about MJ was that he lived untouched by the system. The world he created for himself at Neverland wasn't poisoned by society. Also, to be that creative and have those ideas, it's a clear sign that he wasn't thinking on a 'system level'. He operated in a different realm.
In the final part of your comment, because of my work, I have many children. The mental manipulation that children have had with their parents is incredible. They even hate even Peter pan now. But you know who one of the culprits is, Ophra, she put the guilty stamp on Michael.
This isn't sad but terrible. This is terrible which was done to Michael. And it is terrible that people still do not understand and continue. It really destroys me.
Michael been calling out the media since the 90s in his interviews and songs like Tabloid Junkie, Scream, 2 Bad, Why you wanna trip on me, Ghost of Jealousy, They Don't care about us and more Michael was framed
You should watch a 32 youtube minute video called Lies of Leaving Neverland if you haven't already. This video basically debunks the whole 4 hour mockumentary Dan Reed made.
Oh, it was James' parents that were being sued for completely refusing to pay investors in their trash business what was agreed upon. They sued for $1m. They just didn't give these poor old women their cut and it fucked them over in everyday life and their taxes so they filed a suit.
In the middle of Michaels trial, Wade called Michael to ask him if he could have his wedding at Neverland, it was on speaker phone, so eveyone in the room heard it. Now why would you want wedding pictures of a place that reminded you of being abused?
A lot doesn't make sense about Wade's story. Even if what he was saying was true (and I'm not saying it was), he's backtracked and changed his story too many times for any credible court or jury to take anything he has to say seriously.
Great video, u mentioned sundance . . its interesting that the Harvey Weinstine film was featuring also at the same festival . . how better to divert attention from that film. Interesting too that Oprah a known friend of Harvey watched LN on David Geffens yacht for her 65th Birthday, im presuming before it showed at Sundance. How'd she get access to the film . ? a film soon coming out regarding Mj & the media: 'Trial By Media' by Jin Chohan - peace ✌🏽
Something interesting about Jordan Chandler is that he had no problem filing a restraining order against his dad, filing/winning a case for emancipation and then not only cutting out his family, but standing up against his father when he sued him for the settlement money. Yes, instead of making amends...he SUED his own son for that extorted money! Yet Jordan has gone to great lengths to not testify against Michael at all. He never has gone after someone that said they heard him defend Michael or heard him say it never happened. The accusations are a rabbit hole, every one of them. THe trial was based on the claim the molestation happened years after meeting while Michael was being hounded with suspicion over that Bashir documentary. They say he kidnapped them because he was so afraid of being accused of molesting Gavin when he hadn't molested him but decided while they were hostage to molest him. What? They got caught in false sexual accusations against a security guard and didn't even know vitiligo caused spots but he saw MJ naked. It makes no sense. James claims to have had a honeymoon in the late 80s at a Disney park that didn't exist until 93, a year after he stopped being molested! Uh?? Funny enough Victor wrote that exact layout in his book. THen James claims he went to an award ceremony Michael didn't even attend. Which was also taken from Jordan's accusations. Wade got caught lying under oath in his MJ lawsuit. He said he never talked about the abuse to anyone but lawyers and it was found out he wrote a book and shopped it around before the lawsuit. In that book he tells a different story than in LN and his deposition. He then said he only wrote an email about it but the court found emails that proved he and his mom were conspiring on what "versions would benefit" him. His mother under oath in the lawsuit said he went to the Grand Canyon with the family when he says he was being molested at NL at that time. He also said under oath a completely different story than the book or film. How can any of then be trusted?
They can't and that's the problem (for them). Robson especially, has massive trust issues. I don't know how any court in the world could take him seriously. Even (and this is a huge stretch) if his allegations were true, it would be difficult to believe coz he's changed his story so many times.
Think about the fact that Oprah Winfrey, for her birthday party, had an early screening of "Leaving Neverland." As part of her birthday PARTY, she had her friends sit and watch a 4 hour documentary about child molestation? Why would you do that unless you're "Premiering something you're proud of" to your friends? I think she's involved in the creation of "Leaving Neverland"...... she has some investment in that movie, which is why she pushed it so hard and made her friends and later, her audience, watch it, then had a guest panel live chat w/the 3 Dbags -Reed, Robson and Safechuck
Oprah winfrey's circle of friends was made by paedophiles and corrupt criminals, and she defended those people in the past. Who is she to open her snake mouth and tell people "child abuse is a serious thing and these 2 men are victims and need to be heard", she is such a fake backstabber. And I'm not even talk about the millions of evidence and facts that each accuser was lying for f***g money
It was a present to her buddy Harvey Weinstein, whose doc at the 2019 Sundance Film Festival disappeared at the last second and got replaced after the deadline by Leaving Neverland. LN had been sitting dormant for years after being filmed in 2017, because nobody wanted to touch it. Oprah did her part for her friend, even packing her audience with abuse victims and asking Wade and James leading questions so they could not get caught in their lies.
AND OW watched it with her friend Harvey Weinstein, who actually has been proven (Thank you Ronan Farrow for investigating!) to have sexually assaulted & raped several women.
Really good review. My only critic would be saying “payoff.” Because it was the Chandler family who filed a civil suit for money against Jackson. Not Jackson offering it so they can go away. After his lawyers filed 4 motions trying to stop the a Civil case from going ahead of a potential criminal trial and ultimately being denied over and over again-it’s when Jackson finally decides to cave into this legal extortion. He had really no choice but to protect his 5th amendment rights from double jeopardy. At the end no criminal charges were filed 6 months after the civil settlement because two grand juries in two different counties refused to indict MJ for lack of evidence. And it’s important to note that the civil settlement was for negligence only, not for sexual abuse. Also Safechuck was an non-entity in Jackson 05 trial by judges order because he signed a declaration in Jackson defense in 1993. And yes his families business was sued for millions for non payment just days before he saw Wade Robson on the Today show claiming abuse by Jackson. Hope this isn’t your last review on this subject because MJs Nephew Taj Jackson is planning his own documentary or rather series of episodes of the allegations against his uncle in even more detail. Not only addressing the Chandlers but the 05 trial (The Arviso family) and Wade and James also. Including him as a person in general and the many humanitarian efforts he has done etc.
If anyone is still looking into this story, a good read is 'was Michael Jackson framed. The untold story' by Mary Fischer. I tried to get the link but the page wouldn't function but if you can, it shows even more details about the 1993 allegations.
FANTASTIC review! It was actually his father, James Safechuck Sr who was sued, but it was their family’s business SeaSue Inc. No need for a review until Taj Jackson’s highly anticipated series comes out, but in the meantime, I feel the end all be all documentary against Leaving Neverland is by another indie filmmaker, Jin Chohan. It’s free on RU-vid: tinyurl.com/leavingneverlandhbo
Screw the system, thank you so much for bravely and genuinely speaking up for the truth, this is how the journalism should be, not trying to destroy a man's reputation just for profits, i love your words' media is poisoning your thoughts and mind' so true, we need more people like you, wish you all the best for your channel.
Thank you soo much for this video!! It's nice to know that people can finally see the truth. But what strikes me most (and I need you to tell me what you think about this) is the fact that Michael jackson with all of the allegation made against him that you can clearly see in the documentary, he still continued to put himself in situations that could easily be misinterpreted and even used and manipulated by his haters/accusers. I believe in Mike's innocence 100% but I still think Michael is partly to blame for trusting people soo easily and even after being questioned a hundred times and with all the whispers going around that he was a pedo and stuff he still kept surrounding himself with underage boys and touring around the world with them. He was a superstar and had a reputation and a legacy to uphold so I believe he should have serioulsy stopped with the little boys sleep overs right after the 1993 accusatios. And I say that as a fan cuz it breaks my heart that the king's legacy might be destroyed by such claims
You make a great point and I often wonder the same thing. From what I've researched, he was a stubborn person who, genuinely, didn't see anything wrong with what he was doing. His attitude was, 'why should society dictate the standards which I live by so long as I'm not harming anyone.' Admirable, but also foolish as it could nearly have landed him in prison.
Michael Jackson Ryan White phone conversation on RU-vid speaks realms about what a very sweet child like person Michael was. He didnt have time to hang out with Ryan but he talked on phone with him and Ryan was a boy dying from aids Michael Jackson had a heart of gold He just doesnt fit the profile of a child m olester He loved kids bcz he didnt have a childhood and loved their company
Thank you for your video and sharing your view on this, I wish everyone would do the research you, and many of us did, but all that matters is we know michael is innocent and he knows he is loved and supported
@@JoeBarnesAuthor I'm fine with that but no one should call someone child molester if they refuse to face the truth. I once "believed" the claims because I didn't think people would be capable of lying about being abused, until I researched Michael's story (as a fan who remained completely open minded and never labelled anyone such and such, like haters are doing towards michael) and I found out we had all been fooled for many years and the motives of the accusations are proven to be nothing but money. Yet, I haven't been able to find any proof that the accusers are right, not one bit. if anything, I found strong evidence to prove the opposite (that they are Filthy liars). Please keep posting these videos and sharing your views, the more we speak up and bring to light all the facts, the more we can help people use their brain and understand michael. ❤️
there is grown man regularly sleeping in one bed with small boys behind locked doors secured by alarm ... and yes, my highest concern is why there is civil sue before the criminal sue :))) this way of thinking quite correctly describes how michael jackson fans see the case
You make a good point. Whether or not Michael Jackson molested children, it's still odd that they were sleeping over with him. However, his case is different to a regular man partaking in the same behaviour. For a start, if you listen to Makulay Colkin's explanation of what went on, it's a lot less sinister than your description. Furthermore, these children were in awe of MJ and wanted to hang out with him/have sleepovers etc. It appears he wasn't targeting them, they were coming to him. Apparently, he would only allow them to sleep over with the parents knowing and permission. Still, even, writing that it sounds very odd. However, I don't think this means he necessarily molested them. You're dealing with and exceptional and extraordinary case with Michael Jackson. Normal rules just don't apply. And yes, pursuing a civil suite before a criminal suite is very suspicious. It has 'shakedown' written all over it. Was OJ Simpson tried in a civil suite before criminal proceedings? No. He'd committed a crime, as MJ was alleged to have done, and he had to face a criminal trial first. It says a lot about the intentions of MJ's accusers that they would choose that route first.
Thank you for this I dealt with a pedo when I was 13 and the research I did on this topic shows me how innocent Michael Jackson was all of this was a way to bring him down
You should also read Shokaholic by Carrie Fisher ..she was Evan Chandler's patient.and he called her to say that he will sue MJ..Carrie Fisher quit being his patient cause she didn't get how a father can want money instead of putting the sins abuser behind bars..And please also read Redemption by the paralegal of Evan Chandler's lawyer .Good and infuriating read cause what and how they framed,bullied,tortured MJ
Chandler dad was evil He didn't care for his son until he found out Jordan was going to Neverland And if it rly happened where is Jordan now Why disappear? It's bcz he's living a lie and if he spoke out and said the a bise didn't happen he'd have to give back the money
all the documentary on this case will never really give us a clear conclusion to this case. i believe we will never know the whole truth, only ones that know are mj and these boys that are accusing mj , either way mj will always be the king of pop , no-one will beat his music and artistic abilty, he was very talented.
Now you need to watch 'Lies of Leaving Neverland' documentary and Truth About Leaving Neverland & Michael Jackson - Taj Jackson Interview.. And then Loving Neverland - 5 hour long documentary (also available in 4 parts). Seems like these days only propaganda is professional and the truth is amateurish. That's why I don't watch/read any of msm, only independent sources of information.
@@JoeBarnesAuthor I've editted my first comment and added some more titles of videos which will make you sure that Michael was nothing but pure love and innocence. It's disgusting how people and press have treated him. They distroyed his life, career, health and when they didn't manage to put him in jail they eventually killed him. People accusing him were doing this for money but I'm sure there were other evil forces involved behind the scenes that wanted to take MJ down and humiliate him. Maybe he was not willing to give them his soul in exchange for fame and money - he had it all and not because of sacrificing his soul but because of his genius, hard work and business skills and they hated that. They couldn't control him and didn't want to allow him to be even greater than he was. This world is really sick and we need to heal it as MJ sang and I hope that's the time. Merry Christmas!
Hmm..but which version of the Leaving Neverland documentary did you watch?? It’s been clipped and edited a few times after some of the more obvious lies in it were called out by those who immediately saw the holes in the stories.
Lol they claim it was for “commercials,” yet all the stuff deleted was the debunked stuff, and the version on Netflix (no commercials) is still 56 minutes shorter than its original airing.
No, haven't seen it yet. I thought Square One was pretty conclusive and with the court throwing out Safechuck's case, it seems the matter is coming to an end.
exactly they tray to destroy Michael Jackson life and he's legacy shame on them Michael Jackson was and is innocent period he was the most beautiful human likeEngel
