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@hatnukipgen2991-i9m
@hatnukipgen2991-i9m День назад
Personally im rooting on attack at this point, one reason for this is the recent trend of releasing Anomaly units consecutively in each patch. We’ve seen this with Jane, Burnice, and then Yanagi for version 1.3. This makes us having 5 anomaly characters already this includes grace and piper. So i think it would make sense to make her an attack unit. But again it's all up for hoyoverse to decide.
@AppDT-9
@AppDT-9 День назад
Makes sense but there's already an ice attacker which is Ellen so maybe they'll make Miyabi the last anomaly character with the recent trend you're talking about UNLESSS if they changed Miyabi to an electric user which I personally doubt they will but maybe there's a chance
@AppDT-9
@AppDT-9 День назад
Or maybe they'll make her an ice attacker too because the same case happened between Koleda and Lighter (I'm an Ellen joe fan, I despise the idea of Miyabi becoming an ice attacker, THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE!!!)
@lingwong69
@lingwong69 День назад
@@AppDT-9 if you look at her design she could potentially be fire attacker with the blue flames. And it looks like theyre trying to powercreep the standard banner characters like with grace and koleda next patch. And if miyabi is fire attack then s11 is next. just a guess.
@ViniciusThor
@ViniciusThor День назад
​@@lingwong69 You guys are thinking character design all wrong. "Powercreep" this, "powercreep" that. This game is not an automatic game or a turn based, its action and this helps further the idea of creatin unique characters of the same role. I have Jane and Burnice, but for SURE the next animaly phisical and fire will have different roles. Lighter will have a different role than Koleda. Anby stuns faster than Qingy, but Qingy has a different role. It goes on and on... They can have 4 fire stun characters and they will (hopefully) work differently.
@neziaojuara1768
@neziaojuara1768 День назад
99% she'll be an attack, but man... I'm praying she's anomaly. That said there's a real possibility they'll never add an ice anomaly, remember that Ice stuns the boss for 3 or so seconds so an ice anomaly character has the potential to straight up break the game.
@sign5927
@sign5927 День назад
I honestly can't wait her wipeout screen, but either of the 2 works for me tho i just hope she's really as strong as she's supposed to be.
@lunarch-tw6zz
@lunarch-tw6zz День назад
I can’t believe some ppl here still speculating about her element being either electric, fire or whatever like guys its pretty much confirmed shes Ice lol
@iseoes
@iseoes День назад
the cbt from two years ago confirms it lol unless the devs somehow change it which is unlikely
@ProtoTypeFM
@ProtoTypeFM День назад
it's very much possible she'll be Fire. A 2-year old WIP game isn't the end all be all. If she's Fire, she only powercreeps a Mainbanner agent, which is less egregious than doing the same to Ellen this early on, and it means she and Ellen could theoretically run in the same patch, with both of them serving as incentives to pull Lighter, who allegedly comes with Fire and Ice synergy. Making her Ice would weaken both her own revenue (for people who already have Ellen) as well as Ellens on her rerun (for people who pull Miyabi), and Lighters too, who would have two incentives to pull for him, Ellen and Miyabi, and not just one. It doesn't really make sense from a business-perspective to keep her an Ice-Attacker, unless she's further down the road than 1.4, which is possible I suppose.
@cawashka
@cawashka День назад
It is very much possible that she's a fire character
@Chosovortigern
@Chosovortigern День назад
​@@ProtoTypeFM idk, we already have a cinematic of her using his powers and dont seem to be like fire
@dachaunarcher3262
@dachaunarcher3262 День назад
Not true, it can absolutely be a "fox fire" sort of situation where the flames are blue instead of red. ​@Chosovortigern
@chito2701
@chito2701 23 часа назад
Miyabi has to be ANOMALY ICE, she has to be.
@SoloKazama
@SoloKazama 5 часов назад
she actually is ice anomaly (new leaks)
@CrimsonKaiserx8
@CrimsonKaiserx8 День назад
The answer is really quite simple if you read between the lines. Despite all the shortcomings being an ice anomaly potentially the signs are all there. Her kit already has and will be reworked to compensate/complement whoever she’s paired with in a team to maximize and or overcome the shortcomings of ice as a damage type. Yanagi is designed to be either an off field or on field anomaly dps character. That doesn’t matter. What does is yanagi has a restriction on her extra ability requiring either another anomaly agent and or same attribute agent. Instead of same faction requirement as most other characters. Soukaku is also an ice support that would synergize will with Miyabi inherently from the base game so little can be denied Miyabi will be anything but ice. Plus with yanagis odd extra ability restrictions it’s safe to assume Miyabi will be anomaly herself. Considering they are both from the same faction it’s wild to think the two of them won’t have any impact or synergy with each other… that’s utter nonsense to think that one section 6 member can’t work with the rest of the group as a single outlier but the rest can? That makes zero logical sense from a simple design philosophy given the mechanics of how this game works and team building. Yanagi is designed to be played in either anomaly or mono electric teams to have her extra ability activated. Yet if Miyabi is an attack agent that requirement is not met even though they’re in the same faction? Explain how fundamentally that works? Yet Miyabi would have hers actively active but her own teammate doesn’t if run together? It’s completely counterintuitive… She’s going to be a anomaly agent by simple logic and deduction…😕
@sparklingcheeze
@sparklingcheeze День назад
That's EXACTLY, what I'm thinking, buddy. Miyabi being an attacker, sounds absurd, potentially replacing Ellen this early and unsynergized with her right hand person.
@CrimsonKaiserx8
@CrimsonKaiserx8 23 часа назад
Couldn’t agree more and thankful other see the writing on the wall. We’re not even on 2.0 patch and yet just three patches and not even a half a year into the games life span they release a second ice attack agent? Like make it make sense in what world hoyo actively sabotaging their own unit instead of running Ellen’s banner in rerun before Miyabi to maximize profits. It’s only logical to assume Miyabi is anything but ice anomaly as to prevent Ellen stocks from tanking and having people stop from rerolling or getting her if they missed her. And secondly to promote Miyabi as well as the rest of section 6 faction for their ability to cohesively function/synergize together. It’s just a win win all way around. Also sorry for the long winded response. But lastly it would line up is harumasa is an electric support unit therefore running him would trigger yanagis extra ability requirement. TLDR: yanagi NEEDS Miyabi to be anomoly to active her ability and harumasa to be electric as well. Soukaku already has same element/faction requirements and it’d safe to say so will Miyabi and harumasa. Breakdown: Yanagi: electric anomaly (needs anomaly or same attribute agent) Soukaku ice support (needs same attribute/same faction agent) Harumasa: mostly likely A/S electric support (most likely needs same attribute/same faction agent) Miyabi: mostly likely S ice anomaly (most likely needs anomaly or same attribute/same faction agent like yanagi) All of those above would mean the entire faction could have extra ability overlap compared to if Miyabi was ice attack (so she would have Zhu’s requirements for a support unit/same faction agent thus not allowing yanagi to synergize). Again apologies for the long rant but it’s not hard to read the tea leaves she’s going to be an anomaly agent as that’s what hoyo is pushing at least rn.😉
@Salmon_Toastie
@Salmon_Toastie 20 часов назад
Or they go full tilt and really make Yanagi completely incapable of working with Miyabi and Soukaku which i fucking hope not. The section 6 teams would have them all working together with only the 4* soukaku having a wasted core if you don't get Miyabi. Yanagi Harumasa Soukaku together would work fine minus Soukaku core. Miyabi Harumasa Soukaku would also work fine. And if you really wanted Miyabi Yanagi Soukaku would also work.
@CrimsonKaiserx8
@CrimsonKaiserx8 19 часов назад
You bring up good points and I agree with them. It would be extremely negligible and have me questioning their methods if they left yanagi all alone on an island being the only section 6 faction member incompatible with the other three… Highly doubt they would do that or even go down that line of design philosophy. And looking at possible team comps all of them would be working well in tandem but like you said the outlier is soukaku and her core ability outside of Miyabi support (which is obviously why she was designed with her abilities in mind). Also like you said we have three major team comps and a 4th possible as well. Miyabi/yanagi/harumasa for disorder. Miyabi/yanagi/soukaku for disorder again. Miyabi/harsmasa/soukaku for max Miyabi hyper carry. Finally yanagi/harusama/soukaku for yanagi hyper carry with soukaku losing her core ability. Which is all the more reason that Miyabi will end up being an anomaly agent. It just seems like clear bait when you think about it sense lighter is limited to just attack agents or same faction agents. Best to be safe and save for the rest of section 6 members after yanagi banner. 🙂
@Salmon_Toastie
@Salmon_Toastie 17 часов назад
@@CrimsonKaiserx8 1.4 Agents will be dripped a couple of days after Yanagi releases so lets pray and hope!
@beserklee290
@beserklee290 День назад
Honestly i'm careless about Miyabi coz already got Elen but i'm curious and excited with Harumasa coz he off-fielder
@neb5503
@neb5503 День назад
Tbh we've seen that the Anomaly characters that came out always added a new mechanic to apply said anomaly, with jane we seen her add crits to physical, with burnice we've seen afterburn and maybe the arcane blade could be yet another mechanic to make anomaly either deadlier or last longer. Another thing that makes me intuitivly makes me think she might be anomaly is as said in the vid to make her feel different to Ellen, running her with Lycaon and Soukaku and just swapping her out wouldnt make her stand out enough plus hoyo probably wants you to pull for both characters regardless imo
@DanTheMagic8Ball
@DanTheMagic8Ball День назад
As someone who missed Ellen, I am hoping for the attack role, just to have somewhere to put my golden week engine, plus I have no ice damage output unless I do a funny Soukaku build.
@sora3867
@sora3867 День назад
Those arcane blades reminds of soukaku fly the flag well wouldn't be suprised, these two are meant to be paired lol
@nguyenho5859
@nguyenho5859 День назад
Either attack or anomaly
@MikeCordeiro666
@MikeCordeiro666 10 часов назад
She's officially confirmed as an ice unit, and I've read somewhere that there was a leak saying she will be an anomaly damage character.
@chocobo4646
@chocobo4646 День назад
I think it was very interesting of them to release Miyabi as the A-Rank, Ice Support... But yeah, no way they don't make her something that deals big damage. Still, an ice agent having good Freeze build-up and crit-buffs that isn't restricted by element is something that interests me, but that doesn't seem like her. She really could be the (blue) fire attacker to powercreep S11.
@Salmon_Toastie
@Salmon_Toastie 20 часов назад
Ice anomaly would still be a crit DPS though, Shatter increases CRIT damage taken.
@chocobo4646
@chocobo4646 20 часов назад
@Salmon_Toastie I know, that's why I specify ice for a crit boosting support, but I'm saying Miyabi probably won't be the dedicated support with ally crit buffs in addition to triggering freeze and shatter.
@Salmon_Toastie
@Salmon_Toastie 19 часов назад
@@chocobo4646 She'll have a unique core like Yanagi and Jane for that boost herself probably?
@caruhikari
@caruhikari День назад
I was originally leaning for an ice anomaly, but considering Lighter (a fire stun) and the coincidence that his kit not only buffs fire, but also ICE, and then he releases right before Miyabi.. It's honestly saying something about her being an attack agent.. either way, i don't mind her being either one during the drip marketing week
@Salmon_Toastie
@Salmon_Toastie 20 часов назад
An Ice Anomaly would still benefit from stun. Shatter increases CRIT damage taken so Ice Anomaly would have to lean into Crit and Miyabi will have a unique core like Jane and Yanagi that will probably have some form of bonus damage like assault but for Ice instead.
@Salmon_Toastie
@Salmon_Toastie 20 часов назад
I'm still convinced she'll be anomaly mostly because of Yanagis core passive only working with Electric and Anomaly. The first character to not work with 2 members in her faction might happen though. Still think the main section 6 team would be Miyabi, Yanagi, Soukaku/Harumasa.
@thekaibenz
@thekaibenz День назад
with all said and done, Miyabi will be released as Ice Support
@lHuTao
@lHuTao 23 часа назад
no, she will obviously be a pyro defense character
@MarkFin9423
@MarkFin9423 День назад
I doubt Miyabi will be anomaly because that would simply be too many anomaly units released at once. Miyabi will in fact be a DPS character and a huge meta shift character at that. Miyabi is very likely to be a duel element character that will completely powercreep all Stun/support/dps teams as more dps characters with duel elements are released(this will also put anomaly behind DPS in the meta as anomaly is simply too f2p friendly). The only thing that is still under broader speculation is whether Miyabi is Ice/Phys or Ice/Fire. Either way people should start saving up, this character will likely need moderate pull investment.
@ProtoTypeFM
@ProtoTypeFM День назад
If Miyabi releases in 1.4, the patch after Lighter, who is allegedly a Fire and Ice-synergetic Stunner, it's almost certain she'll be an attacker of either type. Either she releases alongside an Ellen rerun as a Fire agent, meaning Lighter is supposed to be the unit to pull for both, or she'll be Ice herself.
@kuki2800
@kuki2800 День назад
wait... venti rerun in 1.4 and seele did too so you might be cooking
@sparklingcheeze
@sparklingcheeze День назад
Ice RES shreds and ice dmg increase buffs work for Anomaly too If u don't know, so the possibility for Miyabi being an Anomaly unit is as much as an Attacker
@ProtoTypeFM
@ProtoTypeFM 19 часов назад
@@sparklingcheeze his engine buffs critdamage. And he wants an attacker char for his passive.
@sigma0184
@sigma0184 21 час назад
On one hand ice anomaly would still work so that all anomalies have their elemental reps like attacker, and also that ellen case But on the other hand, she just makes so much sense as a crit attacker tbh
@Salmon_Toastie
@Salmon_Toastie 20 часов назад
I'm saying this everywhere because i don't think people realize what ice does. Shatter increases CRIT damage taken so Ice Anomaly would still be benefiting from crit scaling. Not to mention Miyabi will 100% get a super unique core like Jane.
@GenesisGaming_
@GenesisGaming_ День назад
The journey from standard character to limited she came a long way. She will be an ice attacker
@nhutminh9290
@nhutminh9290 День назад
Since Beta she was an Ice, Frost character, I guess she still an attack role but prop 90% Anomaly unit since Frost now lacking Anomaly unit, she could also be Anomaly sub DPS
@pandan__
@pandan__ 22 часа назад
I am calling it now, she will be an A rank physical stunner
@smpltxt.
@smpltxt. День назад
Miyabi's gimmick was that she built up stacks of "arcane blade" through basic atacks and other means, then could use them all to do a big damage slash by holding attack. If they don't give her a more consistent way to do ice damage, i feel Ellen might be better than her...
@kaeden727
@kaeden727 День назад
First off, this kit was like 2 something years ago and there were many characters from the beta that were updated to be what they are now. 99% chance her kit will be changed. Second, not being consistent damage does not equal bad. We already see this with zhu yuan in the form of “burst dps”
@G4TWA
@G4TWA День назад
i think theyre definitely scrapping that for her since its essentially ellen's gameplay (or at the very least, not different enough)
@cyrnogen
@cyrnogen 22 часа назад
Okay hear me out, ice anomaly, except for very shatter, her crit damage/attack/defense shred/impact builds up per stack on enemy mark The ultimate single target Ice unit
@noah509
@noah509 День назад
I think they should just give her a new element and make her an attacker. I don't really mind if we have two ice attackers, but there's nothing about her design or cutscenes that screams "ice" as it is. Make her shock DPS, does anyone complain? Obviously she would work better with her teammates if she was ice but it just doesn't seem necessary to keep it that way. Besides, mono anomaly teams aren't as good anyways.
@AppDT-9
@AppDT-9 День назад
She's definitely gonna be an Ice Anomaly for sure (I hope) because the element ice's only missing class is Anomaly. The element ice only contains a supporter, a stunner & an Attacker and I've got a feeling that the devs are also aware of the community of getting upset of Miyabi becoming an ice attacker because I assume that people will think she's a replacement of Ellen Joe, but people loves Ellen which includes me as well and I hate that idea
@AppDT-9
@AppDT-9 День назад
Oh wait, I forgot that Anomaly isn't the only missing class from ice, it's also defense class
@AppDT-9
@AppDT-9 День назад
But I doubt she would be a defender anyway based off of her playstyle
@SolaninFirefly
@SolaninFirefly День назад
@@AppDT-9 this is so true i hope she supports ellen in some way while dealing damage
@mellihampebrianco.d9481
@mellihampebrianco.d9481 День назад
Anomaly ICE , freeze main, if she attack enemy with freeze status , she will gain crit rate and crit dmg Shatter dmg dont have much big dmg, so if she become anomaly ice she will playing freeze mechanic, and her main stat will be crit and anomaly mastery , not use anomaly profficiency What uniqe about freeze in this game, The freeze effect can extend the stun duration ,which is very good Just like other sword ice waifu hoyoverse game , ayaka from GI and jingliu from HSR, both is dps related to crit rate self-buff But we already have 3 anomaly limited *5 in row ,so mybe miyabi is attacker The worst scenario she will be stun role
@revo5124
@revo5124 День назад
Yep and lighter has ice res debuff
@mellihampebrianco.d9481
@mellihampebrianco.d9481 День назад
@@revo5124 who tf is stinger?
@revo5124
@revo5124 День назад
@@mellihampebrianco.d9481 I meant lighter lmao. I was thinking about something and accidently wrote stinger
@Infinitruss
@Infinitruss 22 часа назад
I hope she’s fire she litteraly has blue flames
@Agentepeluche
@Agentepeluche День назад
Anomaly because yes
@CrimsonKaiserx8
@CrimsonKaiserx8 15 часов назад
Yes and for synergy with yanagi!😉
@jamitiong2978
@jamitiong2978 День назад
Calling it now. Electric attacker
@hogroad
@hogroad День назад
huh?
@Eclectic.Nostalgia
@Eclectic.Nostalgia День назад
What if they made her hybrid, anomaly with crits?
@AppDT-9
@AppDT-9 День назад
That's overpowered
@nick5zone827
@nick5zone827 День назад
So kinda like Jane?
@Hadeshi.
@Hadeshi. День назад
Ice Anomaly increses CRIT DMG, it would make sense.
@Salmon_Toastie
@Salmon_Toastie 20 часов назад
Yeah ICE Anomaly would still benefit from CRIT and allow Yanagi to run with her own FACTION member.
@apiksansom7355
@apiksansom7355 День назад
She either stun or anomaly but 90% i guess anomaly
@coolnamehere5582
@coolnamehere5582 День назад
maybe shes a fire attacker... who know what hoyo have in their mind lol
@revo5124
@revo5124 День назад
She's ice anomaly
@lumaletsplay8176
@lumaletsplay8176 День назад
"Ice anomoly isn't as potent as physical anomoly"...? Ice anomoly increases crit damage from shatter, whereas physical flinch increases stun. Ice anomoly has a lower burst than physical to make up for this, but both are bursts intended for primary field time in non disorder teams unlike fire, electric, and ether DoTs. Depending on what they give ice anomoly it has a higher potential damage ceiling. Theres also no ice anomoly in the game yet to make this statement. I doubt Miyabi is going to be anomoly regardless but ice anomoly without a doubt will be competitive with physical.
@G4TWA
@G4TWA День назад
yeah no reason to think they wont add a special gimmick to make it even better (like jane)
@dislikebutton8979
@dislikebutton8979 День назад
@@G4TWA For real. Before Jane came out, assault being able to crit was unheard of. They can easily give Miyabi some powerful gimmick like that.
@hogroad
@hogroad День назад
omg
@Jun-kun-iu4ls
@Jun-kun-iu4ls 23 часа назад
pls be ice attacker and powercreep ellen
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