My Thoughts on the Haslab Cantina & its Impact on Figure Prices 

Are YOU backing the Cantina?

Also, I think that one thing Hasbro did really well for this campaign was saying "Hey, next year, TVC is going to have Tattooine Figures that make sense with the cantina" in the announcement. Just reassuring everyone that, even if they arent in the initial package, that other tvc things will be coming to flesh out that display i think helped more than waiting until the last week like the Giant Man campaign

No Bea Arthur figure? Instant pass

Love the way you're back to regular videos. Appreciate your hard work for the hobby!

I stopped collecting Star Wars a long time ago. The Black line has been impossible to collect. Unwanted figures are overproduced. High demand figures are under produced. A lot of things are exclusive.

Great review....I brought up a lotta similar points. For myself, being in Canada I cannot justify the nearly $800 Canadian it would cost

I see your point on 3D printing. But consider that you can get a really good 3D printer for $500. I got into 3D printing last year and haven’t done any 3D modeling, I just use designs from the very talented artists in the community. You might sacrifice some detail in a 3D printed piece as well as additional post processing time, but now you can print an Endor or Hoth diorama. All for maybe a few spools of $20 filament. To me that’s totally worth it. I don’t need crazy high detail to convey the cantina.

I'm going to get the Cantina for my Mando collection. I'll be selling the figures in the set to make the Cantina itself very affordable for my Mando set!

A New Hope was released when I was 5. I've seen it a million times. And there was never 1 time in my entire life that I was sitting there watching the cantina scene and said "I want a toy of that" I didn't even want the original cantina playset.

I backed it, but I thought after the Ghost fully funding this would be easier to get all extra tiers. But looks like I'm wrong at 7 days left.

Weekly Nerdzoic videos being back is freaking awesome.

It's a cool set though I can't help but think that there was a point where this would have been a collect and build diorama type deal. Figures coming with booths or the bar in a 4 pack. Not a vintage criticism, but one of my issues with BS has been the articulation changes. Step forwards and steps back. I'll never get over that they made the Mandalorian Armorer unable to do her signature kneeling pose thanks to the single jointed knees. Marvel Legends had been bothering me for a while but it seems like they're starting to step up. I don't know if Star Wars due for an upswing or if hindered by the Disney release schedule and IP restrictions. Marvel can dip into obscure or interesting characters but I don't see star wars doing a lot of EU. I'd love some Legacy figures like Cade or new jedi era like Darth Cadeus or historic characters like Exar Kun

Thanos would be an accurate comparison. Thanks, Nerdy!

If Hasbro is smart, they'll pump out new versions of those old cantina characters. There's no question as to whether or not it will fund in my mind...curious about how many tiers it will hit. I suspect it will at least hit the Greedo tier. I don't collect TVC, but if I did and if I had the space, I could see myself backing this...at least the basic version.

FYI they did say that the stretch goal figures might be sold at a later date if not unlocked and they'd be on different cards though. The sisters and bar tender are only available with this Haslab.

Don’t worry about filling out the cantina. I guarantee, GUARANTEE, if the cantina gets funded Hasbro will start trickling out the cantina patrons in future figure assortments because it’ll be easy money. Some of the major, popular characters they’ll remake from the ground up, and others they’ll just reprint and put into smaller sets of 4-6 patrons. There’s precedent of Hasbro doing this. With Galactus they rereleased Tarrax with a new Fallen One, and with Giant Man they made a brand new Hank Pym and Janet Van Dyne set up, and most similarly, we’ve seen various releases to go along with Jabba’s Sail Barge over the last several years. If the Cantina funds, the patrons will be easy money for them.

Man I love my BS snow speeder! Would love to see them do the A wing. Probably the smallest ship in the fleet. A little longer than the snow speeder. I would be all over that. But I also wouldn't want to pay more than like $120 for it tops.

It looks WAY too bare bones to be $500

I have zero interest in this Haslab, but I LOVE these breakdowns and just general insight into the toy/adult collectibles business. Keep em coming BN!

I’m flummoxed that Hasbro went with the cantina for a Haslab. $500 is ridiculous for that set. Now if it was a highly detailed Deathstar, Bespin, or Hoth set I can see it being worth that much. Not for a bunch of tables, chairs, and cups.

People commenting on having to fill in the set are kinda missing the point of collecting. Yes, having the stuff is the end goal but the journey of building your collection is also an important aspect

Time to dig out my cantina patrons for the shop 😁

You said everything I wanted to hear being said about the situation now with this Haslab and all surrounding it- Bravo🎉

So, are the figures the actual Tonnika Sisters, or are they Karoly D'ulin and Shada D'ukal dressed as the sisters? The sisters weren't in the cantina scene according to established canon.

I liqidated my TVC collection a long time ago. I only collect a little Star Wars. Literally. I like all the space ships, so my focus is on the Micro Galaxy Squadron.

I was under the impression that the stretch goals would be released with different card art? Also, I got huge fomo for the Ghost when I happened to see the Razorcrest and Jabba’s sail barge in person. Just beautifully detailed ships with so much presence. I think the Cantina should have been released in parts as retail items. Each piece could have included a new figure. I think Haslab should be focused on vehicles. My dream Haslab is a huge Sandcrawler. As it is, I really don’t see the value in the Cantina, I’m passing on it. The only part that hurts is missing out on the figures.

Great information Matt!!! Thanks for all you do my friend!!! =)

I would like to hear you thoughts on how collectors handle getting a tax form if they sell an extra one of these down the road for $600 now. Most collectors have never had to deal with that issue but you deal with it every day

With display space being a premium at my house. Where do I put it? I don't think a normal shelf will hold it. Do I want it on my coffee table? Maybe just leave it in the box.

Good video and very thoughtful opinion, you convinced me and gained a subscriber. Thanks and greetings from Germany.

I'm thinking of picking this up as a companion for the Ghost. There's nothing to say that they couldn't have stopped in there on one of their many adventures

I think you SLIGHTLY misrepresented the price of the item by saying it was $500 over and over. I think the base price is $400, and the "deluxe" option is $500. I'm glad that overall you were positive about it, and that you said you were psyched by their presentation and backed it yourself. As someone who also skipped the Ghost (but has zero FOMO about it) I'm excited for this one. I think the cantina is about as classic, "core" Star Wars as you can possibly get, I think the end result looks awesome, and I'm very psyched about the figures. I also love playsets, even more than vehicles, and I want it to do well, so we'll see more HasLab playsets in the future.

Thanks for the content, excellent as always

It's overpriced for a modular playset. If they had made it a fold-out set where pieces could be pulled off and plays however you want but ultimately it all connects, I think it would have felt more like a thing versus a bunch of disconnected things. I know collectors like to joke about the number of cups and how much of a big deal they made about that but that isn't the central issue. It's really just the fact that it's such a disconnected bunch of things that I don't think people are bridging the Gap in their minds that this thing is worth $500.

I agree that the stretch goals bum me out because I just want those figures. And for $500 cool ones, I wish there was more ‘play-ability’ with this set. From the pictures and things, it looks pretty stiff and bland. It’s a few notches above cardboard playset. I would’ve loved to see things like secret doors or other things to give it a PLAYset feel. Different brand but I’m a little bummed by my Super7 turtle van because it lacks any real play features. It’s like 95% perfect to me, but it’s lacking that function that makes it feel like something I MUST play with. Like it just sits on my shelf and collects dust. Looks pretty. But I don’t want to get on the floor and play with it like I do with a Jurassic Park toy or my original turtle van. Vintage SW play sets and vehicles always had play features and I wish they’d bring that back. But hey, maybe I’m the outlier on this

They can keep increasing the price I'll just keep buying less. That's all there is to it. I've been buying toys for decades and I know I can do without them.

2:58 right?! I was pumped and I don't even do 375s

Yea it’s just going to keep going up. Inflation, oil, and general corporate need for limitless expansion that’s just the way of it.

$150 seems the correct price.

From a retailer perspective is not worth it at all. You buy it for $400 which is already high, and then trying to resell it for $600 is crazy…

Black Series Haslab Bad Batch 3.75 upscale Omicron Attach Shuttle..... Complete and utter No Brainer 😮💪🔥🔥

I’m still baffled by this choice. I think they executed it very well, I just don’t see the value at the price point. I really feel like SW fans continue to be taken advantage of at the highest price point for HLs. 🤷‍♂️

Hey Matt I just have a question for you do you know if you will get Neca tmnt last ronin splinter instock??? I have literally looked everywhere on the internet and when I say everywhere I mean everywhere and I can’t find it

Nice review. Great comments.

The DDPY joke popped me :)

I hope HasLab Cantina is funded. I see the value of this set and I'm not huge into HasLab. I 3D print and printed my own Transformers play sets which is lot of work and I would hate to put price tag on my stuff. But I really enjoy putting my TFs in it. To fill out the Cantina, use whatever figures from whatever fandom. Jem, Aliens, X-Men, whomever can come in for drink. Local stores and cons are great places. Hasbro will probably release bar patrons for this too within the year.

Excellent advice. 👌

Nice one Big Nerdy! I have backed the cantina 💪

I prefer a lower production vs. getting the unlocks.

I just have to say, your videos are complete well structured, sheesh

3:15 Never underestimate the power of fandom.

As someone who's made a side hustle of 3d printing, a modern Bambu printer could easily print this for 1/3 of the price. Sure the files may not all be there but it's more than possible

2 dollars worth plastic 20 dollars worth of labor equals 500 dollars

is you store only online or is there a IRL store

Also?. I have this crazy cardboard set of the cantina.. That unfolds...and snaps into place! From the middle Bar...to the booths and tables!(so detailed? You know where to sit your Han and greedos) its a work of art! And..Was gifted to me at a toy con! What a day! And..What a Amazing piece!😊 all set on this thAng

@Nerdzoic are you getting any more NECA Dioramas at the store soon? I need 2!

Just consider. If they had done a Shuttle Tydirium for this price, how would that be received? One that could be disassembled for diorama display? One with all the details and gizmos like the Hiss tank?

Hasbro’s problem is Lucas film and Disney. I think Disney has way too much control over what gets made and Hasbro going that’s not gonna sell but Disney goes we want it and this is what happens. I think you’d see a lot more vehicles not necessarily new I think you see a lot more original trilogy or prequel trilogy figures that people have been looking for that sort of thing.

Given that it is such a high end item, all the Alcove Outer Walls should be textured/weathered. Not just the main entrance. Dioramas could extend to outside of the cantina, using the textured/weathered walls.

I'm pretty sure that the aftermarket prices for this Haslab will be brutal.

Great vid Big Nerdie, sound advice.

Said it before and I’ll say it again. This is a HazLab money grab and those that support this overpriced scheme are supporting this behavior for future offerings. The set should have been pushed for about 350 and all the figures should be non-exclusive offerings. Using the sisters and bartender as bait is total BS.

From within the 3.25 inch star wars community there are custom diorama buildings that can be $300 but their unique, painted and sculpted with multiple elements and lighting. Granted its not a scene from the movies. But I kind of prefer the originality. The Cantina is a bit of an old trope, and it looks like a dated toy because they have made smaller sets like it before.

as long as each drinking glass is individually hand painted, it'll be worth it!

I agree with you on the price - $500 is steep, but it was for the Ghost too and I think that has far less "playability" than the Cantina does. Yet it sold 21K pcs. I'll be getting it. I think this one is struggling primarily due to the bonus tiers - other than an exclusive piece of cardboard there is no incentive there. These will almost assuredly be released at a later date, in another pkg. IMO they should have rethought the bonuses.

Even if the Haslab doesn't make it, Hasbro still needs to find some way to get those figures out to fans. As for me, I would have to put the entire thing on a credit card, which I could do easily, but I'm currently trying to pay off my credit cards. Plus, I have no space for it. I was 50/50 on whether I would back it, when it was announced. Now the chances that I will back it are more like 5-10%.

Sizzling!! Thanks Big Nerdy

Great video! I can't back this with all the other crowdfunds going on now and the prospect of a GI Joe HasLab. It will fund, but I don't think it will hit the other tiers. I'm not sure why they chose a giant, bland playset when all the other successful HasLabs have been vehicles. They should have gone with The Imperial Shuttle, or something.

Expensive? Yes. Overpriced? No. Now if you’re not a Star Wars collector this will mean very little to you. The three figures included are going to be insanely valuable going forward. They will be worth way more than the total cost of the entire Haslab. The cantina itself could be 3D printed but it would cost you anywhere from $400 to $700 for something comparable to this Haslab. Plus it would be made of cheaper materials and way less in quality. This is not even counting the the 3 or more figures. Also the run of this looks like it’s going to be around 12,000 max. This will be super rare and closer to Barge level numbers than it will be to the ghost or razorcrest. The Tonnika sisters will be end up being two of the most valuable modern figures in the line. Any serious Star Wars collector would agree with that. So is it worth $4-500? Unequivocally yes. The value of this Haslab will probably be double the minute it ships and the figures especially will continue to increase in value.

The problem with Haslabs is that we are still treated as the consumer and are paying retail instead of being treated like the retailer. If this went to retail, Wal-Mart would need to buy 20,000 sets and they would not be selling it for $799 they would be selling it for the $399 while buying them for around $180 a pop. 20,000 x$180= $3.6 Million. Haslab needs 8,000 sets bought to cover the costs which is essentially the retail buy in 8,000 x 400= $3,200,000 which covers all costs and anything over the 8k sells is profit and much more profit then they would make a retail. And every sell is a guarantee sell which is a shame why Haslab over charges us by so much. The regular Cantina should of been $350 with all 6 figures included as bonuses no matter if we hit the goal or not plus an extra 3 figure add on pack of cantina patrons in a special action figure 3 pack box set for $49 to make the $399 price tag- 450 for the "complete" cantina and $499 with all 9 figures included (Special Action figure set would include: walrus man (reissued), dr. Everzan (sp?) (reissued) and hammerhead (new Sculpt) so we have plenty of characters to inhabit the bar when we get it

Are you going to have Haslab Dragonflies to sell when those ship?

Your pronunciation has me in tears!!

"Train yourself to let go of everything you fear to lose."

Hey Matt, I would love to back it, but right now it is impossible for me, but I hope it funds. Also, I have been gradually getting out of 3.75 collecting.

When the cantina was revealed the 3d printing artists i follow on patreon have bben posting Cantina diorama STL files. Im going to attempt a Black Series scale eventually. But likely ill be done before the TVC release in fall 2025.

I have yeah , how you hear it either in a table or put it on the floor

Keclar..... 😢 Hope all the figures unlock for those backing this thing. Good luck!

😂 I have the DDP Yoga discs, so I totally got that joke! I’m not into 3.75 scale, so I have no dog in this fight. I think it’s too much money, but I can’t blame anyone for backing it. It’s a once in a lifetime type of piece.

Haven’t collected SW in a number of years so I’m not invested in this. I like it but it would be nice if they allowed backers to buy extra figures so they can keep one carded and open the other.

Lol no wasn't the sail barge like 600? This is ridiculous. 😂

Make your own cantina diorama with XPS foam and some 3D printing.

People today don't understand the cost of things. For a limited release like this it's going to cost more than a standard mass production release because the companies don't get a large discount on buying tens of thousands or even hundreds of thousands of units. They also don't want to sell to stores because then they have to take into consideration shelf space of something so expensive. Toy R' Us here will only bring in so many Titan figures for instance, normally two to four and that's it. They take the room multiple figures could use and they're expensive so they stay on the shelf longer.

I have all the figures. I even made custom figures for the ones never produced. Wow!

I’ll be honest, I might have bought the least expensive option a few years ago. But these days, I’m just interested in the action figures.

I feel like the offerings should be about $100 less than what they’re listed for: $300 for the base version and $400 for the deluxe sounds reasonable

Youd have to spend a few grand to populate it.Those saga,legacy etc. go for a lot of money now.

How much will the Cantina (without figures) sell for on the secondary market?

$500 should include all the figures and maybe even 2 or 3 more at 8K backed.

All these years, I only thought there was one wolfman…🤷🏼‍♂️ I thought this was Lake Sirvak, renamed.

Star Wars figure collecting isn't a game for people who don't have much money. I'm glad I'm finally at a point in my life when I can afford it. I'm really wondering if the cantina is going to get to 8000 backers. It's at 6603 with a week left. I hope I'm wrong.

I need more dioramas for figures but can’t find any because they are all way too expensive but after seeing this maybe they aren’t that overpriced. $500 is wild

People complain about space for the cantina, but black series are just a little too large for beasts and vehicles, honestly, speeder bikes fit on shelves, but would a X wing? Maybe. AT ST. probably not. Millennium Falcon? NFW.

Over $600 in Germany plus shipping. On Pulse!

I really want marvel legends to make a 12 inch sentinel, i know its not properly to scale but i think it would still be cool

The lego cantina is 🔥... and you get to build it. Well worth the price.

Something to think about

Here’s the bottom line. Too many Star Wars enthusiasts are what makes this line suck. They whine and complain about everything coming out or not coming out. No one is making you buy any Hasbro products regardless of line. I pray this Hazlab makes it to 8001. Not because you whiners but the generations beyond you.

Can’t justify the $500. Oh, if you’re doing background music, please lower the volume. It felt like your voice was in competition and not always winning. Great content, as always!

This is a Lego set you can still get that's 400, which is crazy expensive for Lego but is really large.

No yet. I could have the funds but im not convinced on the offer. I have a LEGO UCS cantina which has even outer walls and a nearby building and vehicles still in box waiting to be build and displayed. I dont feel like i need to have it no matter what. And im not a big fan of preorder and wait a year to get your stuff. Also there is no good market for the 3.75" figures here in Europe. With lego i can get on BrickLink and order anything i need for a reasonable price and there are tons of sellers from Europe, even from my country. Maybe if SW collecting had such a dedicated marketplace (not eBay, thats not like it) i would see more value in this thing. I also like the Nabrun and Arleil more that the Tonikas and for not its clear we wont get it. Ill wait for a possible better offer from Hasbro, if they come up with something worth the money ill back it, or if all of a sudden there is 17K backers and i would get all the figures with the purchase.