@@lnbni 100 % Fact I was into punk from 1978 in London 1st band I ever saw live in 1978 was Banshees,saw Joy Division live 4 times,saw the Cure few times in 1979 I know what I'm talking about because I there into it all at the time,Banshees & the Cure are first to admit they've never been part of goth(Robert Smith said it again in an interview last year) they both hate being associated with it & tbh its only people that are confused about goth look at image more etc that think they are.
You should have worded your sentence differently, I thought you meant that The Cure and Siouxsie and the banshees were the only ones that HAD anything to do with goth lol. And I disagree, although they’re not goth anymore they still had a huge impact on the subculture.
I love The Cure, Lycia, The Frozen Autumn, Switchblade Symphony, Clan of Xymox, Joy Division, Bauhaus, Siouxsie and the Banshees, Cinema Strange, She Past Away, Drab Majesty, Lebanon Hanover, Asylum Party, Bunker Strasse, and I'm sure there's a crap ton of others I am forgetting. I've been listening to Madame Edwarda a lot lately. Loved this video.
I am also into most of the bands you mentioned. Two of them, I have not heard yet, so I will need to check them out. I've been listening to The Mission, Fear Cult, and Rosetta Stone for a long time. Great tastes!
@Kai Decadence,thanx from a old goth (mostly eighties and nineties scenes)to make me discover the Golden Apes,i love the voice and the vintage goth style...;-) Now i am more into metal but still listen gothic bands...
When ever I’m having a bad day I watch your awesome compilation of goth bands and it relaxes me thank you for putting this together vary much appreciated it
I'm not a goth myself, but I love the music. I think it stemmed from my love of 80's music (especially the new romantic period). I'm not completely sure if bands like Depeche Mode and She Wants Revenge are actually considered goth bands, but I googled them to compile this list and they happened to be on there: 1. The Cure: "A Night Like This" 2. Depeche Mode: "Shake The Disease"/"Halo" (equally my favourite DM songs and I can't choose between them) 3. She Wants Revenge: "...And a Song For Los Angeles" 4. The Damned: "Eloise" 5. Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds "Do You Love Me?" 6. Killing Joke: "A Love Like Blood" 7. Cocteau Twins: "Pearly-dewdrop's Drops" 8. Joy Division: "She's Lost Control" 9. Siouxsie & The Banshees: "Cities In Dust" 10. Bauhaus: "The Passion of Lovers"
To answer your question, No Depeche Mode is not a Goth band. A lot of people wrongly mislabel them because a lot of Goths (including myself) really like them but the genre of music they play is Synth Pop and Synth Pop is not Goth music. She Wants Revenge are not Goth neither, they are Post-Punk. Historically, Goth Rock came from 1970s Post-Punk music but even though Goth came from it, it doesn't make Post-Punk itself Goth by association. She Wants Revenge are pretty much the 2000s version of Joy Division, darker Post-Punk music. (because not all Post-Punk sounds dark), some of us just include Joy Division & She Wants Revenge in our Goth mixes because they do blend well with them, we just know that at the end of the day, they aren't actually Goth bands if that makes sense? lol Fun list but if you want to learn about Goth music and what goes into making it, I highly recommend checking out this video I did a few months ago. :) > ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4GsskYEDgrE.html
Hi Meg. While not in the goth genre, I recommend this song from the Hong Kong artist Priscilla Chan: I get melancholic goth vibes listening to it: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-oLCHgT4gyjg.html
Disintegration, Lucretia my reflection, and the sweetest chill are on constant rotation. I love those songs so much too. It's really hard to pick a fave though 😊😊😊🖤🖤🖤
Cool list. I've heard of some of the bands here others not as much. But I am always up to discover new music. When I'm here in RU-vid I'm always going down musical rabbit holes sometimes it drives my wife crazy but she understands that I have eclectic music tastes. So thank you for posting the list of your fave top 10 goth bands and songs.
No problem at all but even though I already know and love Type O Negative, they are not a Goth band and didn't need to be anywhere near a list like this, they are actually a Gothic-DOOM Metal band and Gothic-Doom Metal has no relation to Goth music at all. Same for Charon, Gothic Metal band that has nothing to do with actual Goth.. Gothic =/=- Goth. Goth is music genre, Gothic is a specific descriptive term.
If you like Fear cult then I recommend a band called Diva destruction. Matt riser played a part in mentoring the lead singer and also producing some of their music.
Excellent list, I like how it isn't heavily composed of the usual suspects. By random chance I actually happen to have heard all these bands, but there is an emphasis on it being a coincidence, you've got some deep picks. Not that I am solely valuing obscurity above all else. It just get's tiring when 90% of the discussion of goth music is the same 5-10 bands.
Nah it's totally cool and I understand where you're coming from. I think my list may have differed because I tend to like a lot of the second wave Goth bands more than the first wave though the list is in need of an update because I've found even more bands I enjoy lol
For me the best goth band of all times is Christian Death,the second Bauhaus and the third would be Virgin Prune or maybe Type'O'Negative... Top 20 of my Goth bands: 1_Christian Death(USA) 2_Bauhaus(UK) 3_Virgin Prunes(Eire) 4_Type'O'Negative(USA) 5_Fields of the Nephilim(UK) 6_Mighty Sphincter(USA) 7_Sisters of Mercy(UK) 8_45 Graves(USA) 9_Red Lorry Yellow Lorry(UK) 10_Paradise Lost(UK) 11_Tiamat(Sweden) 12_X Mal Deutschland(GER) 13_Norma Loy (FRA) 14_Alien Sex Fiend(UK) 15_Gothic Sex(Spain) 16_Draconian(UK) 17_UK Decay(UK) 18_Das Itch(GER) 19_The Crest(Norway) 20_Personna Non Gratta(FRA).
Great selection! I'd add the Fields of the Nephilim too, Psychonaut and it's remixes - Lib III is great, and anything from the Elizium album! Thanks for sharing your list
Thanks mate, even if the Neffster are a load of boring tosh nowadays. Even their forum, once very active (and showing that Goffs do have a sense of humour, there were some genuine larf-yer-arse-off moments) is dead in the water…
@@KaiDecadence : Not sure if you've heard more Fields from the time you left this comment, but I highly recommend the songs 'Love Under Will' and 'For Her Light.'
If you look goth band up in the dictionary there would be a picture of Nosferatu. Love em. Also love an Ohio band called The Wake. Good guys. Sat with them at the Bauhaus reunion tour in Cleveland.
Awesome music choices! I love pretty much almost every band you listed. Among those bands, I have been a huge fan of Siouxsie & the Banshees since childhood. I never heard Golden Apes and Frank the Baptist, but I'm interested in checking them out.
At the time, I only knew one song by them but I listened to more of them after I made this video and I can say they would be on my list, they're really good :)
Fields Of The Nephilim- head and shoulders above their contemporaries, never been disappointed by any of their gigs in over three decades, simply incredible.
Fear Cult remind me A LOT of Christian Death who'd be in my top 10. Also London After Midnight, Fileds of the Nephilim, Nosferatu, Bauhaus, Still Patient?, Sisters of Mercy and Type O Negative, whether they want to wear the label or not!! Goth is for life, not just for halloween ;)
Mine would be: 10) The 69 Eyes 9)Nick Cave and The Bad Seeds 8) Sisters Of Mercy 7) Electrafixion 6) Nosferatu 5) Real Life 4) Bloody Mary 3) End Of Green 2) The Rosedales 1) Tiamat
Top gothish Ozzy Marlyn Manson Afi London after midnight Clan of xymox Fields of nephlim My dying bride Paradise lost Tristania Theater of tradgy Type o negative Susie and the banchees Atreyu Bauhause Cradle of filth
Asylum Party - Borderline Cocteau Twins - Garlands Dead Can Dance - Self Titled Fields Of The Nephilim - Elizium Play Dead - From The Promised Land Goth , post punk, whatever. Same family of music.
It's refreshing to see a list with actual goth bands and not metal bands kids keep listing as nowadays. (I have nothing against metal It's just not my cup of tea since it uses aggression rather than crrating atmosphere using post-punk elements.) Also tomorrow is World Goth Day! So happy early World Goth Day, Kai! I'm definitely subscribing :D
Just getting into the subculture! Its summer and school starts in a week. Got any tips and/or advice, it doesn't have to be about school it can be plain tips for a babybat.
"Goth and Metal are not the same." Agreed! I should know more or less since I'm a fan of both scenes (I know 80's metal practically inside and out). There is a bit of overlap in a few cases (e.g., Secret Discovery, Lacrimosa, Moonspell, etc., etc.) but no matter how the 'apples & oranges' are sliced there are indeed differences.
@@Hllbunny Way ahead of you lol Already love them. Discovered them in the same year I made this video, it was just after I posted them. Check out my playlists, they've grown a lot since 2015 haha.
No Nico? Nico was goth before all these people, Nico was goth before it had a name. Also (after thought, Joy Division are not a goth band, or they weren't, I guess they are goth in the same way Public Image are, ie: they played a part in its formation...)
The Black guy from The Cure was Andy Anderson. He was actually only in the Cure for 1 year lol. And the list is in proper need of a redo as it's changed quite a bit since 2015 lol.
@@KaiDecadence thank you for telling me. Please make a new list, im always on the search for new music, and im always curious about the people i watch. Happy health on quarantine
Eh the thing with Dead Can Dance is that they only made one Goth album which was their first debut album. After that, they went Neoclassical and never looked back. I do like their Neoclassical work but Neoclassical music is not Goth music, it's just a sub-genre of Classical music. So I don't consider Dead Can Dance a Goth band, just a Neoclassical band that made one Goth album. That song you mentioned, it's not a Goth song, it's a Neoclassical one (beautiful song). I hope that makes sense.
No one ever mentions Children on Stun (I know, you'll say "it's MY list, MY choice so bugger off ! And you 'll be right ! ;)), they are very underrated. Pure goth with a much cheerier sound (their singer has an unusual, but extremely addictive high-pitched voice). Now they have transmogrified into Grooving in Green, which is quite good. Oh, and Rhombus might have invented the "pathetic goth" (like there was "pathetic punk", Toy Dolls, Ye Great Peter & the Test Tube Babies, Splodgenessabound, etc) with their warped sense of humour, mostly revolving around variations on pubs and drinking ! ;)
Ey, we meet again Kai lol, bumped into your vid researching goth bands for reasons which I will state with a question. It has been floating on my mind as of late and that is: when will goths consider new bands? This is a sincere question and nothing to deface your list. But I am seeing that all the goth band lists are saturated with old goth bands, regardless of there being plenty of new content. Where does Supor Aeternus, Magenta or even Blutengal, for example, fit in the world of goth music? Don't get me wrong, I love me some Xymox and LAM, but what about newish artists that are continuing to create work or even bands that are not based mainly in the 80's? (I know Xymox is still touring and even released an album last year) Why is it that it seems that the goth community fails to acknowledge these works and choose to only live in the past? Most lists even fail to list London After Midnight , which is a rather old band yet in the midst of late 70's, 80's bands, is too new to even be accommodated (?) (Of course, lists are solely dependent on the OP and personal preference to them, I hope you understand what I mean though) Surely goth music is still alive yet I have failed to see any list with goth bands that are still active. (By active I mean creating new content. I know Sisters of Mercy still do festivals and such but they haven't released anything since 1990...) If the community wants to continue to thrive, surely the baby bats of the future generations cannot force themselves to listen to Joy Division and Siouxsie because in todays world, their sound is truly outdated. But if our fellow peers continue to pride itself in these old works and shun other works are that indeed goth, then how can they expect for the community to continue... Maybe it is a US thing since most of the gothic festivals are in Europe, most namely Germany. The reason I feel that this is an issue is because it seems to be pigeonholing what goth is and obscuring opportunities for the community to receive an influx of newer content.
Hey there. Well to answer your question, this list is VERY out of date. I made this back in 2015 and these were the current crop of bands I was most interested in at the time but if I were to redo my list (which I plan on doing), it would be a lot more different. Anyway, there are lots of new Goth bands out today and I have created a playlist for them. Check out my music playlists as I've created a lot of them, especially for Goth bands with a playlist titled "Modern Goth bands 2010-2018) and all the bands featured on it are newer ones. At the time I made this video back in 2015, I was mainly looking for a lot of old bands until I started looking for newer bands in mid-late 2016 and saw that the scene is still producing new music. I just never got around to making an updated list yet. The important thing to keep in mind though is to not misappropriate what Goth music actually is. Far too often when I see comments like yours, I see these people getting upset that bands like IAMX or Chelsea Wolfe as "Goth" when the music just isn't as they use no elements of Goth at all. Just thought I should mention this. Anyway I hope this answered your question.
No, no that's fine. I wasn't nitpicking your list by any means. It was a general question overall and thought to seek your output on the matter as your previous comments were thoughtful and intelligent. I will check out your lists, thanks! At the same time, goth music, with the advances in technologies and fresh ideas, I feel has evolved. Much like industrial, the newer industrial music does not sound nearly the same, for example Tactical Sekt compared to Skinny Puppy, yet they are still considered industrial bands within the community. I'm not sure why that community embraces new work while the goth community (at least in my experience) has not.
Yes, I agree that the music of Goth has evolved to a certain extent. Compare 90s Gothic rock like Paralysed Age, Suspiria, or Love Like Blood to the 80s bands like Bauhaus, Christian Death, or Fields of the Nephilim. They kind of sound different yet still use the basic sound of Gothic rock. And then you have the other core genres of Deathrock, Darkwave, Coldwave, Ethereal Wave, Neoclassical Darkwave, and Gothabilly (not a popular genre admittedly). So it's not like the core principal of Gothic Rock's origin (Post-Punk) hasn't been used in different ways. But like I said before, far too often when I hear the whole "Goth music has evolved"phrase, I usually see that as a way of complaining that obvious darkly inclined music is not considered Goth and to that, I say it's because darkly inclined alternative music doesn't use any elements from actual Goth music. All it has is dark imagery and while that's fine and good, it doesn't make the music itself Goth. And finally again, Gothic rock has been used in different ways. Comparing the solor work of Christian Death veteran Gitane Demone who used Gothic rock and mixed in some Jazz & Blues into the sound (namely her singing style) or how Lisa Hammer of the notable 90s Goth bands Requiem in White & Mors Syphilitia with her operatic singing voice. And I could go on and on. The point is so long as the new Goth band uses the core principal of Gothic rock traits in their music, it'll still be thought of as such. I mean popular current Goth band She Past Away sounds nothing like 80s Gothic rock at all and they blend elements of Post Punk, Gothic Rock, and Darkwave into one with a modern, updated sound. Same with other popular current day Goth band Ritual Howls. Sorry if the comment was a little long but I hope you understand and if not, I'm sure you will once you check out the playlist.
8 out of 10. I first heard the cure in 1978,firmly in the post punk bracket,Robert smiths carefully crafted image notwithstanding,for every darkly themed songs,(100 years,lullaby) there were the light touches (love cats). You also can't put siouxsie sue in there with an image,the discography doesn't bear it out,from the scream to a kiss in the dream house,it was ju ju that went really dark.(voodoo dolly,night shift). As a genre,can't say I could pinpoint goth prior to 1983.
I can't believe the March Violets did not sue the bollocks off Valor's Christian Death (Or CINO : Christian Death In Name Only), considering that "Church of no return" is a blatant rip off "Snake dance"…
:::picks himself up from the floor::: Okay, you didn't mention Fields of the Nephilim or Garden Of Delight or even the mighty Calling Dead Red Roses (the latter is my all-time favorite gothic rock band). I took the *MY* part in 'My Top 10 Goth Bands' quite literally. Simply put, it's your 'Top 10' and not mine or that of any other individual. But here's the wonderful rub.... While not having read any comments yet and assuming your 'Top 10' was not random, I was quite floored when you not only cited 'Golden Apes' but placed them within the #1 slot. The latter alone is worthy of subscribing to your channel! :)
I like All Gone Dead quite a bit, they were one of the first Goth bands I ever listened to so they're very nostalgic to me. Cinema Strange is pretty good too from what I've heard.
@@josephcieplak8920 Hm actually no I have not heard of them. I've heard of "Virgin In Veil" and I've liked their songs so far though haven't heard a lot of them. But "Birgin Veil"? Can't say I have.
@@KaiDecadence I'm into metal (slam death brutal/goregrind/p0rn grind/death brutal metal/death doom/raw black metal/ gore noise / norwegian black metal) well you get the point so I decided to get into goth and that's why I ended up subscribing to your channel.
The Cure was a Goth band. Their first album wasn't, it was just pure Post-Punk but their albums 1981's "Faith", 1982's "Pornography", and 1989's "Disintegration", these were their Goth Rock albums. The First Wave of Goth music was very Post-Punk sounding until about 1985 when Sisters of Mercy and shortly after Fields of Nephilim influenced the rockier side of the Goth sound that became the staple for the second wave era of Goth bands and the present.
@@stephenroldan5107 It really wasn't. All the other albums I pointed out in my reply were Goth rock with the exception of a few songs. They were still utilizing the key characteristic of the Goth genre which was the "Scything" guitar play style before they up and abandoned it when they went more Alternative Rock/Pop.
@@KaiDecadence Yeah, i get it. Of course they fall closer to the genre as a whole.... Imagine how long that list can be with a plethora of bands and sub genre's. Funny you say the guitar statement i find that to be so true. 👍
@@stephenroldan5107 Actually no, their later stuff doesnt sound like their goth rock albums at all. If you compare and contrast songs from any of their 90s or early 2000s albums, the instrumentals dont sound like the Faith, Pornography, or Distintegration phases at all and it's because they ditched the goth sound for Alternatige rock, eliminating the scything style of guitar. And I have a friend who compiled a whole list of every single goth band (including its subgenres of darkwave, coldwave, deathrock, and ethereal wave) and came up with a total of 3302 bands, a lot of which were obscure and never really discovered.
At the time I made this, I didn't listen to a lot of their music and even today, I still haven't listened to many of their songs but from what I've heard, they're okay. :)
The Damned started out as a Punk band but eventually went Gothic rock in the 80s and never turned back so yeah, I do think that they are a Goth band. As for Nine Inch Nails, nope. They were always Industrial and industrial and Goth are not the same thing. Hope this helps!
@@KaiDecadence Nitpicking, but I'd say NIN are AMERICAN industrial, which is a very different proposition (Big Black was a forerunner of US industrial with their nightmarish landscapes - but with big guitars) Einsturzende Neubauten, early SPK or Laibach would be the forerunners of European industrial, more artsy and political. For The Damned (which I love to bit !) let's say that had a punk phase, then a distinctly gothic phase. Before their techno-big beat phase. Just kidding, I wanted to see who was following ! ;)
The Cure made 7 Goth albums out of their 13 Album discography. It's true that not all their work was Goth but just because they didn't just make Goth music, it doesn't disqualify their Goth work and that is why they are on the list.
Mine in no particular order Siouxsie ~ nightshift Bauhaus ~ terror couple kill cornel Christian Death ~ Electra descending Birthday party ~ hamlet pow pow pow Corpses as bedmates ~ fur man Alien sex fiend ~ e.s.t. trip to the moon Cramps ~ green fuz Nico ~ one more chance Rowland Howard Lydia Lunch ~ endless fall 45 Grave ~ Phantoms ( single version though and the b side too is great)
I am terrible when it comes to Doom Metal. I heard that Slipknot (Nu Metal) are part inspired by doom metal though. P.S ever heard Inkubus Sukkubus nor Ghost B.C.?
Joy Division aren't a Goth band. They were full on Post-Punk. The reason why Joy Division tends to be shared in the Goth scene is because Joy Division were the pivotal Post-Punk band that played a big part in the development of the Goth music genre. But musically they aren't a Goth a band, they are Post-Punk of a darker tone.
+Kai_Decadence -- Putting aside the possibility that you and others might be familiar with this old website (still floating around the 'net after all these years) I would have preferred to place it up elsewhere. Anyway, it's still a good resource despite in some cases being dated. For example, a number of the links have pretty much gone the way of the dodo bird. www.darkdb.com/eklein/
I could easily re-edit my previous post and slip the following in it, but I'll just toss out my further $0.02 here. It's worth noting that the 'Music Database' I cited previously has a certain oddity about it. For instance, one can click on any compilation CD and obtain the track listing but one can't do the same for a band's actual discography. I remember e-mailing Ed Klein about that. He responded and gave me the skinny, but it beats the heck out of me what he said. (I still might have the e-mail correspondence, and if so I will find it another time.) Anyway, whatever the tech-y reasons were for him in setting things up like that it's a damn shame one can't get a track listing of a band's album, single, or EP. :(
The list is old to be honest, made this back in 2015 and at the time, I had only heard of one The Mission song but now in 2020, I've heard a few more songs and i definitely would pick them over Sisters lol
Gothic metal and goth rock are not the same nor are they related. Gothic metal is a subgenre of metal, not goth. This lost was strictly about goth rock, not gothic metal.
@@KaiDecadence Thank you !!!!!!! I'm tired of metallers claiming that goff have always been "metal" (especially in my country, where if you don't listen to commercial crap "ya eez a metalhead lolz". One even insisted that Rozz William's Christian Death was "metal" !)