The winter is coming and for the first time in my life I’m not afraid of losing my accomplished ability to play golf. I feel like the Rip Van Winkle of golf. I’m seventy and had last played golf consistently in the early 1990’s. I played the Black Course in Beth Page and had memorable moments. I always thought it could be a US Open course , which it did become. The tees and greens are so elevated that I worried that people would be falling all over the course. I started marathon running in 1995 . I did eleven NY Marathons in a row before suffering a pinched nerve in my left neck. I did fourteen marathons, 13 NY and one NJ. I think I love golf more. I’ll get up in the morning to play golf but not to run. Golf ain’t easy by any stretch of imagination. My muscles all over my body ache. But it is a good ache.
I truly appreciate that, Chris, although you are far too kind!! Thanks very much for your support of my instruction and this channel, and stay crispy my friend!! Tom
What a great teaching experience it was like taking stack and tilt to a level where only instructors are allowed. We can’t wait to see the next level of you sharing what you learned
Thanks - I'm glad you enjoyed it!! My greatest challenge was squeezing so much awesome content into a video that was not a feature-length movie!! (Though I suppose it wasn't too far off from being one...😆) Tom
I don't think Andy really cares about the naysayers, Drew; he knows he's got physics and geometry on his side. And yes indeed - he is absolutely brilliant!! Tom
I was thrilled to see this video with the Stack & Tilt guys…I do really like the way you incorporate the Stack and Tilt method with your teaching / instruction…it’s easy to understand and it’s easy fun to incorporate your instruction into my own swing for much improved results….with that damn club in my hand. I love golf but I only love it when my swing is hitting the ball where I’m aiming. I do have the Stack Tilt videos and book as well…I agree those guys are great instructors with methods that actually work well when implemented correctly…your instruction adds greatly to their methods and teaching. That’s all.
I sincerely appreciate your kind words regarding this fantastic system and my way of conveying it! This body-friendly, powerful, consistent, low-maintenance Stack and Tilt system is designed to provide a lifetime of great ball striking, and since it is rooted in physics, geometry, and human physiology it does not discriminate by age or ability - from kids to seniors and everything in between, and inclusive of the best players in the world. I give all credit where it is due - including Homer Kelley for writing the "technical manuscript" based on empirical data from the game's greatest ball strikers, Mac O'Grady's unique observations and instruction, and Andy and Mike for analyzing, interpreting, and assembling the science into a digestible format. I just do my best to take what they have built and transpose it into my own simplified teaching style (which, of course, is fully on display in the comprehensive, structured, sequential learning platform of my online school). Thanks again for your ongoing support, keep up the great work, and have a Happy, Healthy, Birdie-filled 2024!! Tom
Superb! Having attended a S and T day in Portugal with Andy and Rob Cheney, I can appreciate just how awesome a time you must have had! Being self taught on S and T for a number of years,-you have done really well!
Thanks Tom for the awesome content. Hands down you're one of the best if not the best teaching instructor around. Keep up the awesome work 👊🏾 because I need all the help I can get, 😆👍🏾
I sincerely appreciate the kind words, Joseph, and I'm glad to know that my instruction content is resonating well with you!! Keep it crispy and have fun out there!! Tom
You had an amazing week and what a great video. You swing amped up to another level. You looked like a machine in the final 2 mins hitting shot after shot dead nuts perfect. Thanks for sharing your amazing week.
I'm glad you enjoyed the episode, Randy - it truly was an awesome week!! Thanks again for your kind words and support - I always appreciate it very much!! Tom
It's amazing to me on how many golf instructors are now following your example by putting 60% of the weight on their front side. Normally they were teaching a traditional swing and all of a sudden they have flipped - flopped. Makes you say Mmmmmm! Keep up your great work!!
I "discovered" the point about the hands and club face finishing position, and that alone changed my game. It is the key to stop flipping the club. Great video, looking forward to learning more. Alas, the Swedish winter is here and there is no grass to be seen. Thanks, Tom!
This makes the golfswing so simple..unlike other videos where shallowing of the club and other things to do makes the golf swing quite complicated. Now my golf swing practice will be crispy and enjoyable...Thanks a lot...Cheers!!!
Hi @Paterno Borlagdan, I'm very glad to know that you are enjoying and benefiting from my instruction! Yes - we can either simply put the already existing natural laws to work for us, or we can twist, morph, torque, contrive, and otherwise mess with the principles of physics and geometry in an effort to better suit some ill-conceived whims, all the while recognizing that at the point of impact those pre-existing laws are going to be the only things that matter to the ball! Keep up the great work and have fun out there!! Tom
Great to see the Teacher get taught. Just makes you all the better to teach us. Thanks for sharing your experience and passing it on. Much appreciated!
Thanks Craig!! There were a number of us instructors being schooled down there by Andy & Company!! What I learned about my swing specifically and the golf swing in general has most definitely enhanced my abilities as a teaching professional!! Cheers! Tom
One of the observations I first had when I saw one of your videos on Facebook was how quick and economical your swing was, and how much power you generated with such a simple swing. It was cool watching this and seeing your swing simplify drastically but easily.
The way I see it, Jim, we can either simply put the already existing natural laws to work for us, or we can twist, morph, torque, contrive, and otherwise mess with the principles of physics and geometry in an effort to better suit some ill-conceived whims, all the while recognizing that at the point of impact those pre-existing laws are going to be the only things that matter to the ball! I appreciate the kind words regarding my swing!! Tom
Great vid Tom! You were hitting them so crisp I had to eat a Crispy Crunch chocolate bar. I too had a bad relationship with my 3 wood, so I divorced her. After using S&T this year, I hit her a few times on the long holes. Some great strikes and a couple of grounders into right field. My partner says "I don't know why you don't use that club more often." Winter is coming but next year I plan to fall in love with my 3 again! Thanks Tom!
I'm happy to be a matchmaker and help you rekindle that romance, CRS. With appropriate time and attention I'm sure she will be giving you some good lovin' next season!!.....😎 Glad you enjoyed the episode!! Tom
awesome video...cool to see you psyched about this swing. Watched your pre-week video and looked forward to this one. I took these tips to the range today and after warming up with some wedges, I could feel it click about 5 balls into my irons. Much more consistent point where club bottoms out. Takeaway felt good; the most challenging parts to get used to were the follow through..keeping it low as you're turning left, and downswing with pushing off with the trail leg pretty straight rather than spinning your foot, and sliding your hips forward more than rotating them. But I could string together more consistent shots than usual...Can't wait to test it more next time and see the nuances for the wedges, and driver (like fighting the urge to not let the shaft get too shallow in the backswing when keeping the hands closer to the body).
Jees! You could’ve left something to critique. 😉 really good stuff Tom. Showing this kind of video encourages those who want to learn a sound method. The S&T team has their ducks in row……with alignment sticks. 😁👍
Thanks Tom it was an education now I have to spend a few hours tomorrow and tomorrow ect. Even though I have leavs to rake and a Lawn to cut. Lol. They can wait.
I agree, Randy - We've got to keep our priorities in check, and golf definitely trumps the lawn and leaves (well, at least until the wife says otherwise....😆) Cheers! Tom
wow Tom, that was really amazing.learned a lot watching. that italiano dish you made looked pretty good too!!! Id stack and tilt that into my big gut. the hip part really helped, thats my area of weakness and obviously it affects the whole swing. its a process but Im certainly improving. holes I used to struggle with are becoming easier, like ponds and creeks, Im rocking those now. thanks for posting.
Glad you enjoyed the episode, Danny, but I'm sorry for making you hungry....😆 As you could see, even we teaching pros have swing issues, so you are definitely not alone!! I'm happy to learn of your improvements - Keep up the great work!! Cheers! Tom
Great advice. Some people like myself grew up playing baseball. When I was young I was told that I had a hitch in my swing. Which made it difficult to hit the baseball. This rolling of my wrists upset the swing plane. Crossing over to golf to be with my father I was challenged to then hit the golf ball. The swing most like baseball was the swing on the tee. The ball was positioned in the air like a baseball. It was much easier to hit a ball on the ground. But in the air I couldn’t feel very confident about hitting the ball. So I wanted the ball close to the ground. Keeping the ball close to the ground helped to calm my nerves. I never would allow myself to tee the ball higher than the top of the club head. I never imagined swinging the driver simply in the air and never touching the ground. My drives were a leap of faith. A desperate emotional need to hit the ball. To do so I had to manage a swing without a true sense of form. This morning I finally faced a deep psychologically embedded state of emotion and can now face my fears of swinging my driver in the air based upon 10,000 written words on the golf swing. My labored intellectual effort has saved me from the exhaustion my extreme emotional state would inspire after my miserable shots would occur. Tom I have yet to see you concentrate on the driver. Maybe I simply haven’t gotten around to it yet. Thanks for being there
Hi Frank, There are certainly similarities between baseball and golf, but there are also some key distinctions that might explain why MLB pitchers typically make better golfers than their position player teammates! Here's a driver video I released earlier this year: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_xl47-9p1YU.html. This may help you a bit. But really my online school is the way to go if you want to get on track to really taking ownership of your swing. It's a steal at just $10/month, and it'll walk you through everything from soup to nuts in self-guided fashion. Perhaps you'll consider giving it a try in advance of next season? By the way, my dad grew up in Syosset and used to play Bethpage Black for $13 in the pre-Open days when it was not quite so well-groomed and most golfers were afraid of it. He said it was the most physically demanding and mentally exhausting track one could ever imagine! Ciao! Tom
Great video Tom. I have the same in to out issue so it's interesting to see the fix. Back in the 80's we used to call the sweeping draw a 'Draper'...as in drapes moving from one side of the window to the other... mirroring a big draw moving from the right rough to the left rough. You could offer me a million bucks for a fade and I couldn't do it. I took your lessons to the course the other day and had great success accept for the driver. But, I'm sure that's not unusually. I'll keep at it and join your school to get more information.
Sounds great, Jim! I look forward to seeing you in the online school!! By the way, when you get there please migrate over to the new “Office Hours” forum - which is included in your online school membership - and begin engaging with other golfers in the SagutoGolf community. It only takes a minute or two to enroll - just go to your “My Courses” screen and you’ll see a link to get started. Once signed in you’ll be able to access and participate in the great dialogue that we are having on a variety of topics. You can start discussions, contribute to existing threads, post specific swing questions, make some new friends, and just share in the common bond of golfers from around the world seeking to improve their games and help others to do the same. I monitor the forum regularly and am a frequent participant in the discussions, including assisting with swing-related inquiries. I really think you’ll enjoy it! I look forward to hearing from you in the Forum as you work towards building a consistent, low maintenance, powerful, body-friendly swing that will give you a lifetime of enjoyment of this great game! Thanks! Tom
Great vlog indeed. Thanks for sharing. Never been a big fan for ST but it seems lots of good stuffs if looking into piece by piece. Not feel like about resistance of the hip on finish, look opposite from hogan. Seems injury may easily occur. Anyway I have learned from your contents a lot and thank you for that mate.
Hi Boyd, The Stack & Tilt swing is a very body-friendly method. For me this is supported by my personal experience as a player, and furthered by the fact that the majority of my students are in their 60's, 70's, and 80's - i.e.: a smorgasbord of chronic ailments, physical limitations, back/shoulder/knee/hip pain, and joint replacements - and they are overwhelmingly elated to experience the dramatic pain-free game improvement and resulting enjoyment that this swing affords them. Should you wish to give this swing a fair shot by learning it properly, please consider enrolling in the SagutoGolf online school. For just $10 US/month or $99 US/year you'll have unlimited access to a comprehensive members-only platform that really simplifies the process through succinct, step-by-step videos, and I'm constantly adding new content. Here's a link if you'd like more info: saguto.golf/p/golf-swing-simplified-tom-saguto-pga. Thanks and best of luck to you! Tom
This is pure gold! ⛳️🏌🏻 I've been to golf schools (but it's been a while) and they are so enlightening. It looks like your swing is shorter now, kind of "sawed off" at the finish. Is this something you learned at camp? Can't wait for your upcoming videos of more nuggets you learned from Andy. Keep up the good work. 👍🏻 p.s. I occasionally move my right foot on the downswing too, like you did a couple time 😏(I assume from keeping your weight left) My friends say "your foot slipped" 🤔
Glad you enjoyed it, Mike!! The "sawed off" finish is a trademark look of a properly executed Stack and Tilt swing. I had been getting closer to achieving it and Andy's teaching certainly accelerated the process!! As for the right foot thing, that was a drill given to me by Andy in order to put the brakes on my hips and transfer the energy to the club. You could liken the move to that of a bowler or a hockey slap shot. So this was more of a feel I was trying to ingrain and not something you'll see me do in my normal swing. Thanks! Tom
Hard to divine what hes teaching and how to make the changes watching a video. Im envious. Wish I could spend a couple days with an instructor of that caliber. As it is, my 2 fractures in my lower back are less and less of an issue. I went today to work on my transition and shallowing the club and added about 20 yards to my driver. Irons are doing much better too. Not bad for 65 and still athletic.
@Greenballed - With regard to the grid and other swing-related complexities, it is up to me to dig into and comprehend the Einstein stuff. I then translate it into the language that I speak in order to convey it in the terms that you've grown accustomed to. That's what I've been doing all along and will continue to do - including with the new information I've garnered from the school! Now this is not to say that I won't make available more advanced "graduate level" courses in my online school content for those who wish to explore the depths of the swing, but I will not deviate from my mission of teaching a consistent, powerful, low-maintenance golf swing in a simplified and body-friendly manner! Cheers! Tom
Great video Tom, I enjoyed that! Seeing you swing away making solid contact shot after shot I started wishing there was some way ball flight could be incorporated into the videos. I'm assuming that kind of equipment is cost prohibitive but is it? Maybe an explanation of how and what equipment is needed to show ball flight would make an interesting video.
Hi Rick, I've used a shot tracer app in a number of my videos, including this course vlog: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-CSAvOMD7m_A.html Here are some others: - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-cVggUORbs5I.html - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-NthJA6TTZpo.html - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-UnOMjaDl3fE.html In case you're curious you can purchase the app and download it to your phone here: www.shottracerapp.com/ Cheers! Tom
This is an amazing video Tom! A couple of questions: 1) does the bump forward with the hip create the tilt on the downswing or does the tilt on the downswing create a bump forward with the hips. I struggle with this though I feel like it's the former. 2) the comment about the shoulders not turning but rather a function of tilting and extending is awesome! What does he mean by the shoulder joints being a power source. Is there a vid on that anywhere?
Glad you enjoyed it, Kevin! I've currently got some basic grid info and ball flight rules in the online school. When I begin to build out more advanced levels of the school I'm considering including bite size pieces of the grid spanning multiple lesson videos since taken all at once it would be too much to digest. I will also teach elements of it to my more advanced students during private instruction. Due to the complexities I do not foresee the grid making any appearance here on the free channel beyond the occasional mention or reference. By the way, here's a link if you have not yet enrolled in the school and would like to learn more about it: saguto.golf/p/golf-swing-simplified-tom-saguto-pga. At just $10 US/month or $99 US/year it'll get you on the fast track towards owning the swing method I teach and much more! Cheers! Tom
09:37 Freaky, I saw this face looking back at me and I thought my computer was trying to tell me something, But, it was only your reflection in the lower-left corner 🤣
Ian, It is not likely that I will get into too much grid detail here on the free YT channel. We're talking about some rather meaty and in-depth content that is best suited for the more advanced areas of my online school - sort of a "graduate level" class after folks have successfully worked their way through the full curriculum of swing instruction. By the way, here's a link if you wish to check it out: saguto.golf/p/golf-swing-simplified-tom-saguto-pga For just $10 US/month or $99 US/year you’ll have unlimited access to a very well-structured learning platform designed to have you on the fast track towards owning this swing, and I'm regularly adding new content on all facets of the game. Cheers! Tom
Looks like you had a great time Tom! I was playing a course in Fort Lauderdale and an iguana very much like that one walked right across my fairway. Those things must be everywhere down there or maybe it was the same one?!? 🤔
What the heck? You're in FL and stay inside preparing your own meals? Ha. Well we're in a Covid world so probably smart. Good video and very informative. The s&t swing has really helped me with my irons & hybrids. I'm hitting more crisp shots than ever. I can still hit a thin one here and there but not as many. I don't think about the s&t so much with my woods tho as I hit natural draws with them anyway. But the s&t may have moved into my swing with those naturally. I'm sure my version of s&t is not perfect. I still don't get my arms as far behind me as you show. But what changes I have made has really helped. I basically try to stay on top of the ball(no sway) and tilt my left shoulder down a little on the backswing. Then fire my hips through on the downswing. Thank you for such good info. Jesse Franks too.
LOL - It definitely wasn't the covid thing that kept me in the room those couple of nights, Marty - it was the long days with tons of great info to digest!!! If your swing is easy on your body, produces the power, accuracy, and consistency you desire, and thus enables you to maximize your enjoyment of this great game, then I'm all for it!!! Besides, it seems to me like you have incorporated most if not all of the key swing elements anyway!! Cheers! Tom
Really a quality video, Tom. I noticed on a few of your swings that it looked like you had your right foot pulled back at address into a closed position. Was that my imagination, or was that a technique you were employing to promote a certain feel? I do that sometimes with my driver to help me take the the hands in more and shallow the path going back.
I'm glad to know that you enjoyed this episode, Jim!! As for the right foot thing, that was a drill given to me by Andy in order to put the brakes on my hips and transfer the energy to the club. You might compare this move to that of a bowler or a hockey player's slap shot. So this was more of a feel I was trying to ingrain and not something you'll see me do in my normal swing. Thanks! Tom
Good stuff. Tom Im a 70 year old golfer from UK. Been playing for 54 years. Was single figures but now off 15 due to age, lack of length and crap putting. The simple tip about getting more weight of the front foot has helped me. it reminds me of a coach 50 years ago called Mr X who used to talked about the" right shin post" and would demonstrate it with simple stick man drawings in Golf monthly mag. Anyway. I struggle now with length and getting up on the par fours means a lot of use of my three hybrids. Can you do a vlog about using the stack and tilt with hybrids? I only carry irons from 5 to sandwedge and tend to use hybrids from 150 yards and above.
Hey, Barry, move up a set of tees. No shame in that as we get older and lose distance. It's a lot more fun to be able to hit greens with 6 through wedge than hybrids into every hole.
@Barry Glynn Glynn, Here's a link to a video I did on hitting woods off the deck: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-MFeYEwG2Ds8.html. You may be able to apply some of this lesson to your hybrids. Beyond that, I thought you might like ot know that the majority of my students are in their 60's, 70's, and 80's - i.e.: a smorgasbord of chronic ailments, physical limitations, back/shoulder/knee/hip pain, and joint replacements - and they are overwhelmingly elated to experience the dramatic pain-free game improvement, increased distance, and resulting enjoyment of the game that this swing affords them. Should you wish to give this method a fair shot by learning it properly, please consider enrolling in the SagutoGolf online school. For just $10 US/month or $99 US/year you'll have unlimited access to a comprehensive members-only platform that really simplifies the process through succinct, step-by-step videos, and I'm constantly adding new content. Here's a link if you'd like more info: saguto.golf/p/golf-swing-simplified-tom-saguto-pga. Thanks! Tom
I’ve been avoiding learning what stack and tilt is for over a decade now, I’m going to stick to the regimen😂😂 As always though, you still get a Like 👍 😉
Tom, Great video as always and looks like you had a blast. Really good stack-and-tilt geek fest! Question: In one of your videos you talk about Hogan's "Magic Elbow" and talk about keeping the right elbow tucked in during the the entire swing. I tried this and developed a "janitor" (sweeping) hook. I also noticed you were working on correcting this in your own swing during the S&T event in Miami. Can you add some thoughts here? An important topic methinks. Thanks. Keep Crispy.
Try presetting this elbow position at address but allow your trail arm to remain straight during the takeaway, keeping just the upper arm and not the elbow attached to the side of your chest. Due to this preset your trail arm should fold properly as you get further into the backswing, and the elbow should be a few inches from your side at the top. This will have you in a good position to start the downswing. If you exaggerate the elbow connection to such an extent that it stays glued to your side through the entire backswing it could potentially cause some issues. Remember also that the videos, lessons, and drills on this free channel - while fully aligned with the swing method I teach - address a variety of topics, issues, and common flaws/fixes from one episode to the next. They are certainly not intended to be taken as a sequential learning platform like the structured curriculum of my online school. For example, you may have already had yourself on a good downswing path, and then by incorporating this lesson you got too shallow and started hitting the sweepers. (By the way, I've got lessons and drills specific to this downswing issue in the Fixing Common Swing Problems section of the school.) The things I worked on in Miami with Andy are too advanced for me to convey here without sowing confusion. That's the type of in-depth content I'll use in my private lessons, and it will ultimately find its way into the online school once I translate the "geek speak" into something that fits my instruction jargon. Yours in Crispiness, Tom
I'm glad you enjoyed it, Stanley! I was primarily using my 7- and 6-irons, but would occasionally throw in some longer irons just to put it to the test. Cheers! Tom
So have never understood how the circle of the shoulder turn and hip/body turn need to have their axis aligned, but seeing it in action with the clear examples suddenly clicked to me. Now that the torrential rain has stopped, went outside and hit a few into the net with my one length clubs, hybrid and 7 iron (the 7 iron is a 7 iron length). Putting those two circles directly on top of each other and adding a little hip bump was like adding rocket fuel to the swing. instead of an out of synch slow mo old man swing, it's now a raging inferno of speed. I'm going to have to harness this energy somehow, lol. Best tip ever, makes me want to sign up for lessons if I had the time to practice properly ;)
I'm glad you enjoyed this video and the raging inferno that it created!....🔥🔥😂 So based on your comment I hope you'll tune in to Saturday's episode as I think you're going to like the new perspective!! Cheers! Tom PS: With regard to the lesson thing, have you thought instead about enrolling in my online school? For just $10 US/month or $99 US/year you'll have unlimited access to a comprehensive members-only system for the full swing, the short game, and much more. The school's intuitive course curriculum greatly simplifies the entire process through succinct, step-by-step videos, and I'm constantly adding new content. This will really put you on the fast track towards learning everything in a well-organized, self-guided fashion! There's even a members' forum where you can ask me specific swing-related questions and suggest new content ideas, and I will soon be adding live Q&A sessions as well. Here's a link if you'd like additional info: saguto.golf/p/golf-swing-simplified-tom-saguto-pga.
Hi, Tom. Your videos have absolutely changed my golf game. Still have a lot to work on but this past round every single approach landed on the green and some were within inches of the flag stick. My driver is a big hit or miss as is my woods. I will either bomb them both long and straight or struggle quite a bit. I think I will visit your site and sign up for classes but I've also been looking into the Moe Norman swing. Im curious what you think about it. I've heard he was the best ball striker in history and I see players like Bryson use his swing but just watching it, the grip and set up look unbelievably uncomfortable. Would it be ideal to adapt that sort of swing and try to normalize it for myself for my driver and woods? Thanks for any tips. Keep growing! Best instructor on YT by far.
Hi B C, While the Stack and Tilt swing I teach shares the single plane feature, it is definitely different from the Moe Norman version and for this reason I do not recommend crisscrossing between the two methods as it would certainly lend itself to confusion. This should not be construed as a knock against Mr. Norman's renowned ball striking prowess or the style of instruction that he inspired; it's simply that components of his swing style are not compatible with S&T. So my best suggestion to those who are weighing these two methods is to choose one or the other, but not both! Having said that I do hope you will consider my online school for just $10 US/month because it sounds like you are just a few tweaks away from really taking ownership of your swing and your game. Here's a link with more info if needed: saguto.golf/p/golf-swing-simplified-tom-saguto-pga Thanks! Tom
Linguini dish looks so good! It seems like Tom was working on a change in one of the most fundamental aspects of his swing, the plane. Saguto golf videos Emphasize swinging inside, both taking the club back on the inside and down from the inside. ALWAYS with the goal of staying out of the casting over the top Death Zone. Now Tom's swing to the top looks considerable more upright and the downswing more steep. He even spoke of using the lateral hip moment as the engine that drops the hands into to slot on the downswing. These changes seem to be movement toward a two-plane swing and away from the stack and tilt one-plane system that has been the core concept of Tom's teaching. Tom is a genius teacher so I'm certain that I'm wrong and confused. Can someone please tell me what I've got wrong?
Definitely not departing from Stack & Tilt, Don. The lateral targetward movement of the lead knee and hips is a key element of the S&T swing. It's this transitionary move that gets the club tracing the same plane on the way down. It may "feel" like it's being dropped into the "slot" for those golfers who are chronically steep, but and that's the only reason I would make mention of the word. Here's a lesson video related to this topic: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0IxI_qmaF_A.html
It’s been a minute since I’ve enjoyed your channel! I’m socked in with 8” of pure powder and -3 degrees temps .The weather has me enjoying the stack and tilt camp. Since my first time watching your channel I have been practicing the weight forward with the left knee pushing down in front of the ball ! Crispy! My only issue is that knee was replaced in 2015 it has caused substantial knee pain after the fact. Well I have since kinda lightened the push down , not crispy anymore Tom. So my fix to this issue I have since switched to swing left handed.I wish we could get together for a one on one coach.anyhoo love your content and your sense of humor sincerely not Phil !
Wow - that's quite the switch, @Jp Harned! I hope it's working okay for you from the other side of the ball. By the way, in my online school you'll find a robust Indoor Training Program loaded with lessons and drills for those who are snowed in or otherwise confined to quarters. It's designed to sharpen your skills from the comforts of your heated home and prepare you for when the tundra finally relinquishes to spring's thaw. So many folks across the globe are now enjoying the best golf of their lives as a result of the school's comprehensive, structured learning platform. Here's a link if you would like to know more about it: saguto.golf/p/golf-swing-simplified-tom-saguto-pga As for one-on-one, aside from in-person instruction here in SC, I do offer my V1 Swing Video Analysis - an extremely valuable service that I highly recommend to everyone in the school. This enables me to put my eyes on your swing and offer some very specific observations and corrective action plans if applicable. I liken it to bringing your swing into the shop for a tune-up or minor repair. Scheduling one on a quarterly basis for preventive maintenance will do wonders for keeping things humming along nicely, and it's also a great tool for pinpointing and resolving any issues that arise. The process involves downloading the free V1 app and then submitting two videos to me through the app - one down-the-line (captured from your stance line, not the target line) and the other face-on. You'll find more information about the V1 Analysis halfway down this page on the Saguto.Golf site: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolf Stay warm, and don't concern yourself with oversized rodents predicting your weather! TS
@@SagutoGolf Thanks Tom , I have realized in my switch hit ability that I must steer away from the right side and try and control the left side. Because of your content YT that I am able to hit the ball with some confidence left handed.Structure is a great tool for so many but me I’m hands on,that’s what it takes for me to learn, still yet I’m going to try V1 app. Thank u for ur genuine reply that says something about u.
@@SagutoGolf I’m not 100% switch.I just short iron and approach right side. My analogy is a little whacked it’s the only I can explain the feeling , if you have ever had broken bone in dominant hand and unable to wipe the your back side one must use the less dominant hand.lol takes a lot of practice. For me I tend to lose the feel of the head in the back part of my swing I just feel like I can’t feel it like I do the other.strictlywoods
Hi Drew, I've used a shot tracer app in a number of my videos, including this course vlog: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-CSAvOMD7m_A.html Here are some others: - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-cVggUORbs5I.html - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-NthJA6TTZpo.html - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-UnOMjaDl3fE.html In case you're curious I use this shot tracer app that you can download to your phone: www.shottracerapp.com/ Cheers! Tom
Hey Tom, can you elaborate on the slowing down of the body to increase speed? I recently took a s&t certified lesson and my contact has improved by keeping the flying wedge but i've lost distance. How can this help me gain distance and are there any drills i can do?
Hi Isaac, If you were to crack a whip, the "crack" occurs when you slow down or stop your hand and the trailing tip of the whip dramatically accelerates. That's what's going on here with the "braking" of the hips, transferring the power of the body motion to the business end of the club. With regard to your distance issues, you may find some useful content in this playlist of channel videos related to the downswing: ru-vid.com/group/PLV62KxT7Mp7Jxi814RQddJx3wkHqxqhio. However, my best suggestion is that you consider enrolling in my online school. For just $10 US/month or $99 US/year it'll get you on the fast track to owning this swing through short, simple, step-by-step videos. Additionally, there is an abundance of content aimed at resolving a variety of swing flaws and ball flight issues, and I also personally answer specific swing-related questions from members. Here's a link if you'd like more info: saguto.golf/p/golf-swing-simplified-tom-saguto-pga. Thanks! Tom
Hi Jake, In very general terms, the answer lies in ball flight laws. Clubface angle relative to target line is the primary influencer of the ball's starting line and face relative to path determines direction and degree of curvature. From there we can then do some reverse engineering to identify and neutralize the cause of a sideways shot. With regard to your hook tendencies, there are just too many potential variables and unknowns for me to make an accurate diagnosis. For example, if your path was previously too steep and you were making compensations to prevent the ball from slicing off the planet - perhaps a very strong grip or setting up with a closed face - then those compensations could certainly result in a hook if you have successfully corrected your path. Other things to consider are your ball position is too far forward, your hands are too far back, your weight is not forward enough at impact, more..... While there are certainly videos on my channel that address a number of these potential causes, a better option would be my FREE mini course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker”: go.saguto.golf/ It's a great way to gain a fundamental understanding of the swing system I teach as well as an introduction to my formal instruction style. Beyond that, there are entire sections of my online school dedicated to diagnosing and resolving common swing, contact, and ball flight issues. Have you looked into it? That's where - among many other courses and lessons covering various aspects of the game - you will find very detailed instruction and drills that take you through the entire swing step-by-step, position-by-position from setup to finish. Thousands of men and women from across the globe - including many accomplished, low-handicap, competitive players and spanning all age ranges from junior to super-senior - are now enjoying the best golf of their lives as a result, and their unsolicited testimonials tell the story quite well: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolfreviews. At just $14.99/month or $149.99 per year the value in terms of what you get for that price point is beyond comprehension, and based on proven results it represents by far the best golf instruction deal on the planet. Thanks, Tom
I was hoping you would share the exercise that you did to prevent those incredible Hook shots? I am have the same issue with my downswing going too far in to out. Seems like I have fast hips as well!
Hi Kenneth, Here is a video documenting my full lesson with Andy Plummer: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-2D9fy3MbEa0.html Beyond that, there are entire sections of my online school dedicated to diagnosing and resolving common swing, contact, and ball flight issues. Have you looked into it? That's where - among many other courses and lessons covering various aspects of the game - you will find very detailed instruction and drills that take you through the entire swing step-by-step, position-by-position from setup to finish. Thousands of men and women from across the globe - including many accomplished, low-handicap, competitive players and spanning all age ranges from junior to super-senior - are now enjoying the best golf of their lives as a result, and their unsolicited testimonials tell the story quite well: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolfreviews. And if you'd like to first "dip a toe in the water" prior to diving into the school, then here is a link to my FREE mini course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker”: go.saguto.golf/ It's a great way to further your familiarization of this swing system and be introduced to the structured learning method that is delivering the referenced results. Tom Saguto, PGA
Tom Great video but very thin on the driver which I find the hardest club (impossible) to hit with the stack and tilt. What are the details of the change one has to make to be successful with the driver?
Glad you enjoyed the video, Rick!! Here's a driver video lesson that may help: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_xl47-9p1YU.html Oftentimes when golfers are hitting everything well except for the driver it can be attributed to one of the following: 1) They don't start with - or maintain - enough weight on the front side. In general with the driver we should add a little more front weight load at address - more like 60/40 instead of the 55/45 prescribed for the other clubs. This forward weight should gradually increase to the top of the backswing (70/30) and build further on the downswing - approximately 80/20 halfway down, 90/10 impact, and 95/5 finish. 2) Their hips are not continuing their lateral slide through impact. This is common with the driver as the wider stance means that the hips have a greater distance to travel. If the hips stop moving laterally towards the target on the downswing then their rotation takes over, changing the low point and rerouting the club. This can produce a variety of undesirable results including fat and thin contact, topped shots and popups, straight pulls, and “banana” slices. 3) They are not allowing the length of the driver to dictate the backswing path and are getting too steep as a result. The longer shaft of the driver encourages more of an around the body backswing as established by the shaft plane at address. It may "feel" flat as you take it back along the shaft plane for the first few feet, but as long as you maintain the "weight forward, shoulder down, and hands in" components while allowing the club to work around you, it should put you in the proper position at the top so you can attack the ball from the inside. Beyond that, , if you'd really like to own this swing through your entire bag please consider enrolling in the SagutoGolf online school. For just $10 US/month or $99 US/year you'll have unlimited access to a comprehensive members-only learning system for the full swing and much more. The school's intuitive course curriculum greatly simplifies the entire process through succinct, step-by-step videos, and I'm regularly adding new content. Here's a link if you'd like additional info: saguto.golf/p/golf-swing-simplified-tom-saguto-pga. Cheers! Tom
Tom: Thanks for the quick response. We share a similar sense of humor (for some people). I am sure that your parents were called to school quite often. On the other hand it has served me well as a trial lawyer to loosen up juries. The driver has always been the bane of my existence as I hit it long all over the place. I watched your referenced video and my problem is with the downswing. It was my understanding that in the ST you are not turning your lower body but rather tilting one way and then the other. That method works great with the irons and certain rescue clubs but not with the driver. In your driver downswing you clear your left side the same as a traditional swing to give your swing room. I do not see the tilt with your hips on the downswing but a turn of your left side away from the ball. Something is not right??? Thanks for your time! Rick
A quick setup question. If you close your left eye at address and look at the ball, where does it appear relative to you nose? Find I tend to like my head down, so my nose is below the ball, BUT I think I swing better when the side of appears level with the ball.
Not sure I completely understand what you are asking with regard to ball position relative to the nose, Jim. In the prescribed setup for the Stack and Tilt swing the hands hang directly under the chin and the back is rounded slightly forward from bottom to top so that the neck and head are tilted more downward, enabling you to see the ball without straining by otherwise having to look out of the bottom of your eyes. (Paraphrased from Chapter 3 of the Stack and Tilt book by Andy Plummer and Mike Bennett.) I hope this helps to some extent! Tom
Nice Tommy, you got this stuff nailed. You could have spent more time with that tasty thai wing ding and pseudo steak n slammy; wow, tasty. I will fix your 3wood since you fixed my game. Two things: 1) Focus on squared club face to target; make sure grip isn't causing clubface to close, and 2) drawing the club back low, low, and slow. You are picking that 3wood up too fast, take it long and low/ across the grass. You're fixed.
Nice tip, Teddy. Seriously. Kinda like the earlier one from Carl Spackler. In other words, "physician heal thyself...." So what's your lesson rate??.... Better yet, how about guest-hosting here for a week. It would be gold, I tell ya!.....😆 Cheers! Tom
@@SagutoGolf Hey, hey Tommy, you have me smoking my hybrids and woods; so the stack and Hogan arms. But, it was funny when you alluded to a hiccup you were having, and I encountered the very same thing. The wider sole clubs for me; sometimes at address they seem square to the target, but there a degree closed when you align everything. So, being extra focused on squaring everything. What I really noticed from your down the line takeaway was air under the sole of your club, and for me that is a no-no; keeping that triangle intact as long as possible than bring the right hand in, and smoke it. That flatter plane just works so much better with wider sole clubs. I know that fixes you....because you showed me. Man O man, you really fixed me, and you're a freaking chiropractor because my back is gold....I couldn't play 2 days in a row. Your hits are gold, Tommy....!!...nice...
Hi Matt, You have some leeway with ball position. I like the simplicity of keeping it consistent relative to the inside of the lead heel and adjusting the stance width depending on the length of the club. This works well for me and many of my students. Alternatively, the Stack & Tilt book prescribes a stock ball position that is in the middle of the stance for short irons, two balls inside the lead heel for middle irons, and incrementally more forward for the longer clubs - the farthest forward being even with the inside of the lead heel for the driver. Cheers! Tom
Hi Tom. Where can one learn to become a stack-and-tilt golf instructor? I am a stack and tilt golf fitness trainer from Cape Town South Africa and encourage my clients to use the stack and tilt to relieve their back pain. Appreciate any comments or suggestions.
I appreciate your validation of the body-friendly feature of this powerful, consistent, low-maintenance Stack and Tilt swing system! I suggest visiting the Become an Instructor area of the Stack and Tilt website in order to begin the process: stackandtilt.com/instructors/ Thanks and best of luck to you! Tom
It seems like (from what I see) the ideal ball flight is a PUSH-DRAW. I also seems to me that a PUSH-DRAW comes from the two distinct paths the hands and the club take, as you describe with "the GRID". Can you clarify the PUSH-DRAW? ... I understand the "draw" is the desired ball flight, but how do you correctly "PUSH"? Thanks, Tom
Hi Mike, For a RH golfer the push draw starts to the right and works its way back to the target. As you take ownership of this swing your club will properly be approaching the swing’s low point on an inside track during the downswing, and at this point you will then be on the correct path to take advantage of the preferred S&T “grid”. The grid tells us that if the ball position is behind the low point - which it typically will be to some degree on standard shots for all clubs perhaps with the exception of the driver - then a clubface that is open to the target line but closed to the downswing path will produce some measure of a push-draw. The degrees of in-to-out path and face angle will determine how much or how little curvature is produced. In general terms ball flight rules - aka shot shaping - are a function of clubface as it relates to path and target line. Clubface relative to target line dictates the ball's starting line, and face relative to path determines direction and degree of curvature. Hope this explanation helps. There's much more aon this topic in my online school. Cheers! Tom
do loft and lie angles change with stack and tilt in comparison with a 2 plan swing method? for example, my original swing on a lie board suggested 2 degree up on my irons.
Yes, because you're not lifting and you're swinging the club on a shallower angle, you might see a difference in lies. My suggestion is to get fit or test out your swing on a lie board. I went from +4 to Standard when switching from conventional to S+T.
@@SagutoGolf What errors in contact or ball flight did you experience with the clubs at +4 using S&T? What changes occurred when you adjusted them to Standard? My clubs are +5 presently and I want to know what to look for when I begin S&T.
@@billricke8232 I changed my lies pretty shortly after switching to SnT. You can expect pulls and/or draw the ball too much if your lies are too upright. Swing wise, you might be making a compensation in the downswing to get the clubface to square up evenly with the ball at impact because the clubhead might be too "toe up" at an upright setting - your subconscious mind may try to make that clubhead level at impact by steepening your downswing.
Yep - pretty much all the guys you see on Tour are braking (not breaking....😆) their hips as this creates a tremendous energy transfer to the club through impact! Tom
Indeed, Thomas - If more people would give up their egos in terms of the name of the swing method they subscribe to, they would soon gain on-course egos from the resulting consistently crispy ball striking experience. Which matters most?? Just sayin'.... 😎 This body-friendly, powerful, consistent, low-maintenance swing system is rooted in physics, geometry, and human physiology, and it is modeled on empirical observations of the game's most prolific ball strikers. As such it does not discriminate by age or ability - from kids to seniors and everyone in between, inclusive of the best players in the world. What the "deniers" can't grasp is that if you watch any Tour event on TV you'll see a significant number of players executing these motions, a fact corroborated by just how many of them have a very centered swing with the lead knee flexing and the trail leg straightening during the backswing, their lead arms on or very close to their tilted shoulder planes, and their hands deep behind their trail shoulder at the top. If interested, here is the story of my "conversion" to Stack and Tilt: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PM8lNNrMPEk.html And here is an episode documenting my week at S&T Instructor Camp in Miami: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-m9qdPOzYUWU.html For a really good starting point in a structured learning environment, here is a link to my FREE mini course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker”: go.saguto.golf/ It's a great way to gain a fundamental understanding of this system as well as an introduction to the instruction style that has thousands of men and women from across the globe - including many accomplished, low-handicap, competitive players and spanning all age ranges from junior to super-senior - enjoying the best golf of their lives: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolfreviews Embrace the system, embrace the process, and you will soon embrace ownership of a well-functioning swing and the resulting ball striking bliss it provides! Tom
Hi Marge, Your best best would be to visit the Find an Instructor page on Stack and Tilt website - stackandtilt.com/ Cheers! Tom PS: Have you considered enrolling in the SagutoGolf online school? For just $10 US/month or $99 US/year you'll have unlimited access to a comprehensive members-only system for the full swing, the short game, and much more. The school's intuitive course curriculum greatly simplifies the entire process through succinct, step-by-step videos, and I'm regularly adding new content. This will really put you on the fast track towards learning everything in a well-organized, self-guided fashion. There's even a members' forum where you can ask me specific swing-related questions and suggest new content ideas, plus you'll also have access to all exclusive "Crispier Than KFC Club" RU-vid channel members' content. Here's a link if you'd like additional info: saguto.golf/p/golf-swing-simplified-tom-saguto-pga
Tom I just tried to email the stack and tilt website and it was not deliverable. I’m trying to get information on attending a camp. Can you help me out? Thanks....
Andrew, I see info@stackandtilt.com as the Stack and Tilt general email address for camp inquiries and (610) 585 3004 as the phone number. I hope that helps! Tom
You can always arrange for an in-person lesson, Matt. Here's a link: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolf Just know that my available lesson slots are limited to Thursday and Friday mornings, so be sure to schedule in advance if interested. Thanks! Tom
Here are a couple of driver-related episodes, Walt: - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_xl47-9p1YU.html - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-uxbIpYhg4ys.html Cheers, TS
We continually and gradually load into the lead leg, Walt, so the answer to your question is none. You start with your weight forward (55/45 on the front side; 60/40 for the longer clubs), increase that same weight forward to the top of the backswing (70/30), and further increase the forward weight during the downswing from halfway down (80/20) through impact (90/10) and to the finish at 95/5 forward.
Hi Matt, Per the Stack and Tilt site you can still schedule a private lesson with Mike: stackandtilt.com/private-golf-lessons/ He is indeed a ball striking machine! Tom
Gentlemen, if I may....Tom, I noticed that you were now finishing with Nick’s umbrella ☂ positioning of the club (pointing upward)I must try this next time out.
You can send an email to info@stackandtilt.com to find out when and where upcoming camps are being conducted, get pricing details, and find out what's included. The S&T website shows that there is a camp coming up in San Diego in early December for $2,999, which I believe is the same price that folks paid for the camp in Miami. Tom
Actually, I paid to attend and it was worth every penny! If you ever have the opportunity to attend one of Andy Plummer's camps I highly recommend it. TS
