I love the amount of possibility that can come from Mysterio. I would really love to see a “Mysterio kills the Marvel Universe” type of story in the future
It wouldn’t be realistic Spider-Man isn’t even the strongest hero and he defeats him regularly, if that happened lol what’s next Rhino or shocker defeats the marvel universe 🤣 enough is enough buddy
Brrrrroooooooooo!!!!!! I'ma work my way into Marvel, just to write this story. EDIT: P.S. It'll bring back the old Marvel Max line - can't be writing a PG story.
I mean the fact that in a world where magic and superpowers are normal and he still remains relevant using smoke and mirrors really speaks to his ability as a villain
He’d be dangerous without those Achilles’ Heels of his’ for any hero, even those from outside the comics. I could imagine Batman having a difficult time dealing with his gaslighting techniques since he can’t defeat it the same way as Scarecrow’s Fear Toxins and same for Ben Tennyson.
In the Spider-Man 2 video game (based on the movie) Mysterio plays as an extra villain in the story. Not only does he create flying alien ships you have to fight but he also makes it look like a large scale invasion is happening with the statue of liberty being changed in his image. He also created a "funhouse of doom" with my favorite part being the room of wacky mirrors that spawn warped copies of Spider-Man you have to fight. His final fight had me the most shocked though. In the final fight you find him robbing a convenient store. His massive health bar goes up 3 times and I expected a reality warping battle which made me hesitant only for him to go down and be unmasked in one punch. Turned out he wasn't trying to trick you but legitimately had no funding left for his tricks.
I thought the whole “I’m totally an Alien”Mysterio from that game was kinda weird. He walked into that connivence store and demanded “I REQUIRE LARGE AMOUNTS OF YOUR CURRENCY” 😂 Mysterio is just the best.
Mysterio has to be one of the examples of how modern day comics tend to make silly, goofy looking villains into more dark and terrifying villains. I gave my respect to the Fish Bowl Man in Old Man Logan and Far From Home. Jake Gyllenhaal nailed his role.
More like a classic villain’s horror being realised like what Shin Godzilla is to Godzilla 1954/First Generation. Someone savvy what could be done with his skills and make use of them.
Imagine if Mysterio got his hands on the reality stone. He could literally make his illusions become reality which would be all sorts of trippy. That type of story is just waiting to be made.
Mysterio is like Batman's Scarecrow to me. They are both amazing villains, but are always not utilized that much. Tbh, these guys are probably one of the greatest, if not the best, villains of all time
Mysterio is one of my favorite Spidey villains ever. When I was interested in becoming a filmmaker in high school, Beck's gimmick of illusions captivated me. Sadly, in the comics, Mysterio is a villain that doesn't have a lot of prominent stories, outside Guardian Devil, Spider-Men, and parts of Nick Spencer's run. One of the reasons I love Far From Home so much is because of how much justice they did Mysterio in the MCU. I know there are people who don't like that he was a Stark Industries employee, but the dude developed BARF, holograms, which still fits in line with Mysterio's gimmick of illusions. That movie took various Mysterio stories, whether it'd be visually or scheme-wise (for example, the Molten Man fight has the circus from ASM 66-67, while Beck's scheme of manipulating Peter into feeling less assured of himself was partially inspired by ASM 311), and morphed into a microchasm of what Mysterio generally is, and they succeeded in that regard. They even nailed the costume, with the only difference is that he has a gold armor plate. Mysterio's theme in FFH is also one of my favorite songs in a comic book movie ever; it just perfectly fits the character and is one of my favorite songs that Giacchino composed for the Home trilogy. Praise thy fishbowl, I say!
I think that those sorta villains that can play with your mind are the scariest ones for sure. Mysterio reminds me of this one villain in Transformers with the ability to manipulate memories, which he uses to torture other Transformers before making them forget how to transform, leading to them trying to transform, only to turn themselves inside out. Spoopy
But Mysterio's headpiece isn't a fishbowl! It's a spherical one way mirror meant to mimic the likeness of a...fun house... fuggit... Praise thy fishbowl...
I think the reason people hate Mysterio being a stark employee is that it makes him less personal to Peter Tom Holland’s Spiderman villains are not his own, as in, he didn’t do anything to these villains but someone else did and Peter just got in the way Vulture and Mysterio exist because of Tony and NWH is just villains who belong to other characters (except Green Goblin cus hes the goat) Im just hoping that in the next Spiderman movies, these villains are his own and not because of the actions of another
While a cool feat for him, in-universe it was one of the dumbest plot points. There is no way Logan could kill all the X-men on his own. Period. Mysterio making illusions so convincing that Logan would both lose his mercy and not be able to see through it was cool, but the result was just stupid.
Mysterio's the ultimate villain in my eyes - intelligent to the point of genre-savvy control, capable of great works and minor pettiness, rightly proud of his achievements yet too ambitious for his own good. He stands above obvious (in form and function) villains like Joker, Loki, Ras, Magneto, Ozymandias, and Kingpin. "People sometimes let the stories they tell themselves get in the way of the stories they could live" is the difference between him and them: a lot of the time, big-time villains can't breathe outside their narratives, Mysterio explicitly weaves in and out of his own tropes.
Well said. A lot of what makes Mysterio so good is how underplayed he is. He also has a campy sort of realism to him. He's just a very smart guy with Wizard of Oz antics tricky enough to bamboozle even the sharpest minds. No powers, yet the power of an omega level mutant.
I was one second away to say "If people think Mysterio is not lethal, watch the Old Man Logan comics. Just understand what he did and how it all went to major ish because of him". I loved Jake Gyllenhaal as Mysterio and the character in the Spider-Man movie was really, really cool. There comes this guy who can make illusions and heroes are kinda confused because they are used to fight beings who are enhanced, mutated or even have a supernatural origin and there comes this guy who effs with ur mind through illusions. I believe they were/are so used to fighting all these beings that a dude with illusions just surprises them with "simplicity" and not with powers like having an infinity stone, super fast healing, unlimited strength etc. He's cool in my books and I wish for Jake to return to that role in some shape or form. It was great honestly.
He will return. Mysterio has been confirmed to be alive after NWH. After the second spell, Spider-Man, not Peter Parker is an accomplice to the murder of Mysterio. Remember he said, they'll see what I want them to see. They think he's dead, but he's out there hiding.
Daredevil has a good rogues gallery but then again he shares half of it with 4 other heroes. Marvel rogues are weird because they are mostly in one location which means they can fight 1 of 300 heroes
Superman has an amazing rogues gallery as well, i mean, Metallo, Brainiac, Parasite, Darkseid, lex luthor, toyman and much more that i cant remember right now, honestly all the popular dc comic heroes have great rogues galleries, same thing with marvel for the most part atleast except a select few who have relatively weak rogues gallery considering how popular the hero is (like captain america honestly, not a very strong rogues gallery imo that is particularly memorable)
Spider-Man did actually fight the X-Men and was beating there asses so much so that when they did “stop” Spidey Xavier had to wipe his memory of the altercation, also I’m surprised you didn’t mention the comic to which Mysterio 616 tried to duplicate what Mysterio-807128 did to Logan on his earth to the Logan in the 616.
@@Seasonal-Shadow_4674 I know Spider-Man fighting the X-Men was one of the earlier issue of the Uncanny X-Men, as far as Mysterio 616 trying to trick Logan I forgot which issue, but I know it exists because another comic book RU-vidr by the name of “DopeSpill Comics” covered it.
I have always thought the same thing after Old Man Logan! Why isn't Mysterio a more heavily utilized villain? 'The master of illusions' is such a cool concept.
Mysterio and Scarecrow are pretty similar when it comes to when they’re written well, they can be severe mental obstacle for any hero, and even if they don’t win they still leave lasting effects on their victims, which is why they are good characters.
The other thing that makes him strong af is that he doesn't use mind control but rather illusions so he could probably even trick telepaths like proffesor x or even magneto since hes not trying to control magnetos mind but rather altering his surroundings.
@@DrFuntimes well based on how it works most of the time in cinema I'd imagine theyd have to actuslly see him first to be able to read his mind or atleast know the target of whos mind they are reading. He could do the illusion he did on wolverine and theyd have no idea its actually mysterio.
Mysterio is an extremely well written villain. Keeping the theme of his ego being both the reason of becoming a villain and also losing is great. I think his changing things up because he feels like he's in a rut is a great nod towards his theatrical background. He's an on theme character. He reminds me of Batman minus the plot armor. He doesn't have any superpowers, he just relies on his cunning and wit to defeat these people who are leagues more powerful than him, and manages to win.
Mysterio can do SO MUCH with his illusions. His fights with Peter in Far from Home are a perfect example of this. Dude pulls the wool over Peter’s eyes so hard and gets the last laugh in the end. And his boss fight in Spiderman 2 is so beautifully trippy
We never realize just how dangerous Mysterious actually is because he’s constantly bested by Spider-Man, one of the only people who can actually see through his tricks
This man really went from "I just thought I could kill them on" to "you really thought you could kill them all?" Really fucking fast. Seriously though, mysterious seems to have such a prominent role for the old man Logan comic and the best part is that he doesn’t appear on the cover, despite the impact he’s had on him. It’s just like him, unpredictable and it works great. I also love the look of his tattered and slightly ripped cloak, it looks as though he’s just walking back from his grave to torture another innocent soul before leaving for more important affairs.
@@joscar062 I wasn't talking about the quality of the character I was simply saying how to was based off an alternate version of Rhino from one of the comics universe. Because the 1610 universe was supposed to be a realistic modern take on Spider-man which is why the 1610 Rhino has a mech suit.
That's the thing about even quote-endquote "loser" villains like Mysterio, they're still generally leagues above any normal human and can accomplish ludicrous feats of just about anything.
These videos were you take a couple comics and make a 15 minute video are pure gold. Much better than your short 5 minute videos. Keep up the good work.
Webspinners tales of Spider-Man 1-3 really cemented mysterio as one of my favourite villains and I wish he got more love. I’m glad he was able to be the villain of a major movie even if he was a bit disappointing at times. But that scene where he’s just really hitting Spider-Man with all his illusions until he gets hit by the train, gorgeous, everything I wanted
Pretty sure after something like Old Man Logan, they realized that now Mysterio is kind of OP. like, they need to NOT use him or people will expect something of the same calibur, which they can't do in the day to day of marvel comics.
Mysterio was always one of my favorite Spiderman villains growing up. Even in just the cartoons, he always had something cool going for him. In Spiderman TAS they gave him an actually impactful character death and it was the same episode where Spiderman gave us that blood-curdling, "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" that's been memed to death (justifiably so)
I love Mysterio so much as a kid when I had the DVD copy of Spider-Man, and went to the special features. I saw 3-D models of Spider-Man’s foes from the past, and one of them stuck with me for the longest time just because of how unique and interesting and that was mysterio
Really glad RU-vid recommended your channel. These videos rule. I dig how you present stuff - I use your videos for inspiration for my own stories. Here's hoping you cover one of my books one day.
But even in the MCU. Even though the spell occurred with strange. He left a huge impact on Spider-Man‘s life. He’s the reason why everything occurred. And he was no joke to begin with before his death.
I can’t read any mysterio dialogues without hearing the jj solid voice for him. Especially in his reintroduction after secret wars, “IT IS I, MYSTERIO”
Some underrated Marvel villains I believe deserve videos like this: Dormmamu Taskmaster Bullseye Spot Chameleon Scorpion Kraven The Hunter Carnage Mr. Sinister Mephisto The Hood Super Skull Mojo Purple Man High Evolutionary Plethora of Spidey Villains also
Mysterio’ one of my favorites in Spider-Man’s rouge’s gallery, he has such a cool design I and love how he can be over-the-top extravagant and genuinely menacing with his mind games
glad for this video. I always loved the concept of mysterio. As you said, his power of illusion can be so strong he could outclass psychics and magicians in what he can get away with, yet some writers continue to treat him like a joke, showing in the old man logan story just how dangerous he really can be. Thats why I have a mysterio bust right alongside Venom, Magneto and Poison Ivy as some of my fav comic villains.
Thank you for saying villain. Nowadays people tend to use "rouges" and that just sounds so basic. Villains is more vintage and makes them sound more threatening.
mysterio just took never let them know your next move to another level, glad they didnt add any of that stuff from those comics you mentioned into far from home otherwise there would be a lot of petrified kids in the cinema
I’d noticed how many of these stories feature Mysterio getting bored. Among other reasons, of course, I wonder if there’s a story with Mysterio being an anti-hero
I think you should also consider that the video is already almost 15 minutes long. If they were to go more in-depth, it would probably be much longer. I'm not very familiar with the comics myself, so I could be wrong, but the guy making these seems to try to keep videos as short and concise as possible while getting his point across about what he is covering.
I loved him in far from home the illusion scene he made to fuck around with spider-mans head was my favorite part of the movie and showed just how dangerous mysterio can be when written well 😍 ❤️
Thank you for this video, all i knew about Mysterio was that he leaked spiderman's IP in that movie, i wasn't aware of how much of this amazing villain i missed
One of your favorite Spidey villains is... The Chamelleon... Really... That's like looking over all the ice cream flavors out there and picking scooped up fridge frost.
I love how JJ hates spidey so damn much that he didn't even suspect some corny funny looking man appearing outta nowhere when spidey started doing crimes saying "bro, Imma sack this spider dude and I can literally transform into him lmao" first thing first
I love his new characterization as a somewhat skeezy movie director/Hollywood type. It feels like a natural progression of his character, and of all the classic OG villains, he's the one I'd put money on reforming to some extent Tho I think the imagery of Spidey hitting his fishbowl and that kinda being IT for Beck as a threat for that story, does a LOT to make him seem like a joke.
