Nadine Microphone For Double Bass - Review

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In this video I am testing the Nadine large diaphragm condenser microphone for double bass.
Strings used for this video: E and A: Gallistrings Ouverture, D and G: Pirastro Oliv.
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@gabehizer111 3 месяца назад

I agree that the sound of the Nadine mounted on a stand was better/more natural-sounding than when placed on the strings, but you have a trade-off when recording: the closer the mic is to the bass, the less leakage from other instruments (well, the leakage is the same, but because the mic is closer, you can dial back the gain which then lowers the gain of the leakage. The result is that the signal will have more bass and less leakage.) Something to consider!

@stringmatrix 2 месяца назад

Yes that's a good point. It also depends on the "figure" of the mic. For a recording in a separate booth I'd rather put the mic on a stand.

@timsweeney8448 Год назад

Thank you you sooooo much for making this great content! this is exactly what im looking for every time that im researching a pieace of gear. and as usual, you tone, technique and musicianship as SUPERIOR!

@stringmatrix Год назад

Thank you very much!

@doctorbassspain550 Год назад

Cool video, as usual. Very informative and straight to the point. Great playing too. We reviewed this mic for the Spanish bass magazine "Bajos y Bajistas" some months ago and it's a really nice mic. I am actually using one and I love the fact that you can leave it mounted on the tailpiece and just take the bass anywhere knowing that the sound guy will get a great sound. I use that in combination with a LARS contact mic and this combo (Nadine + LARS) has changed my life. I've invested a lot of time and money trying to get the best amplified upright sound. I used to have a huge pedal board with the Tone Dexter, a couple of EQ's and a two channel preamp and then a two channel amp (one for upright, one for electric) plus a combination of a flat sounding cab and the EICH Baseboard. It all worked but it was a pain taking all that to a gig. Now I'm just using the LARS direct to my amp/monitors and the Nadine goes straight to the desk and through the P.A. and I am getting the best sound in my life. Could't be happier. And yes, the guys at Ear Trumpet Labs have really done their homework because they've managed to get a fantastic sound considering that the mic is not located at the perfect spot. It does work. Thanks again.

@lucaleombruni3806 Год назад

Great Mic, i used it since 1year.

@bassmickeyd 3 месяца назад

Great job on the review and the playing, very enjoyable.

@FongJazz Год назад

Nice experiments! Perhaps the wooden ATM 35 mount is picking up more afterlength vibration than the Nadine's rubber mount?

@stringmatrix Год назад

Yes, that's also what I thought about after I had finished the video: I suppose some vibrations get captured by the ATM35 because of the direct contact. I should try this with some sort of a softer attachment sometime.

@marcelperik Год назад

I made the same construction, but then using a clamp with rubber rings holding a Sennheiser E906 of Behringer B906 aimed at the spot where the soundpost is. Works perfectly.

@stringmatrix Год назад

Ah very interesting! If you can send me a photo that would be great, I would love to see that: hervejeanne (at) gmx.de

@marcelperik Год назад

@@stringmatrix Hi, can't send you a photo, here in this chat, but here's one of my uploads and there's is a still at abt. 13 seconds where you can see the mic hanging. Later, I discovered that the sound gets better when the mic is pointed at the position where the soundpost touches the top. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GkFrfzpbQgU.html

@stringmatrix 11 месяцев назад

Thank you very much, that's a great design and idea, thanks for sharing!

@alexkryshtal9542 Год назад

I just bought EBS Stanley Clarke to use it with Nadine also with this preamp you can mix mic with the pickup thanks a lot for the video I didnt have a chance to try it together in a real live situation so thx a lot for the video, it will definitely help me

@stringmatrix Год назад

Yes, the EBS preamp offers many possibilities, a great piece of gear!

@stevebadachmusic Год назад

Very nice comparison! I was going to buy one of these mics for home recordings, but for gigs, I have just given up with mics. Now I use a blend of a piezo and magnetic pickup when playing live. It's not the most beautiful sound, but not too bad, and I can get it pretty loud.

@stringmatrix Год назад

I also gave up using mics for gigs. I only use a piezo (Ans-bassbalsereit). I like to keep it simple on gigs. If the FOH engineer wants to add mic on the PA, it's fine with me, but I don't need it on the stage.

@DrJohn123 Год назад

Yes, the microphone sounds very nice. Thanks for the extensive test and comparison. Personally, I'm not sure if I would want to carry such a large and heavy mic. I rather use a smaller mic and mount it even more close to the bass top to reduce bleed. Currently, I'm happy with the Bass ball and the Audix ADX-20iP. Does not sound as natural as the nadine, but works quite well for multitrack live recordings even with a loud drummer.

@stringmatrix Год назад

Yes, it is true and a "parameter" to consider, that the Nadine is bigger and heavier than the other clip mic options.

@seamus9305 Год назад

Pretty bulkie man. Great playing.

@stringmatrix Год назад

You mean the mic is big? Yes true, compared to other clip mics.

@seamus9305 Год назад

@@stringmatrix Yeah, mic sounds great but I'm looking for a smaller clip-on. I built a teardrop base and right now I'm bowing good enough to keep the neighborhood cats away.

@BennyVanAcker Год назад

I wonder if you could review the new Headway EDB 2 HE preamp? It looks like it has a lot of great features for double bass live amplification, mic and pickup blend...

@stringmatrix Год назад

Headway is welcome to contact me, if they are interested. I already have a couple of things to do on my list of Stringmatrix projects, so I won't contact them myself right now.

@bradbenefield3291 Год назад

I’ve been using the Nadine for about two months and with the Headway for about two weeks. The Headway is great so far - one preamp that provides the phantom power needed by the Nadine, a nice EQ strip and a notch filter. And I can blend in my other pickup (Upton Rev) with it. For small gigs I run it through a QSC 8” speaker on a stand to avoid feedback. For larger gigs, I’ll run the pickup through my GK and run the Nadine to the board - even moderate stage volume causes feedback with the Nadine. But in general the Nadine sound is great, and the Headway is also fantastic - it’s small, and has flexible EQ and output options. Looking forward to figuring them both out more.

@christophepastor8290 9 месяцев назад

Great video and awsome player! Hiw do you think this mic is also appropriate in a loud bluegrass rockabilly live band ? Have a great day

@stringmatrix 9 месяцев назад

I think that this mic will only work for amplification in bands with a moderate "loudness". If you use the pickup for your amp and the mic only for the FOH, it might work but the mic catches quite a lot of the sound happening around the bass.

@MatthewRybicki Год назад

As always, great job! How did you mount it to the microphone clip? (Instead of the afterlength of the strings)

@stringmatrix Год назад

To attach the Nadine to a stand I used a very large mic-clamp (mic mount / mic clip, what's the correct word in english?), large enough to have the rubber disc "inside" the clamp. It didn't look very good and was not totally stable, but I couldn't think of another easy solution.

@MatthewRybicki Год назад

@@stringmatrix I understand! Thanks man!! I've been getting a lot of compliments on using mine. It's true there's much more bleed than I'd like, but multiple people have said "it just sounds like YOUR bass"

@whitorblius Год назад

Sounds alright. How do you think it fares against its competitors, namely DPA, regarding leaking drums?

@stringmatrix Год назад

I only could compare Nadine to my ATM35, placed right in front of the bridge (maybe 5-6 cm). The leaking from the other instruments was a little less on the ATM35. I don't know if it has to do with the position. The clip mics with flexible gooseneck have the advantage of multiple positioning. The Nadine has the advantage that it won't move from it's place while playing.

@jameskirk2417 Год назад

Do yourself a favour and check out Geoff Malia’s pickups, from Sydney, Australia, anchored in the bridge. I use them on all my uprights, can be rotated for volume, great system, wouldn’t waste my time with anything else, works brilliantly and very user friendly !

@stringmatrix Год назад

I never heard of that, do you have a link?