The DPA position change at the end tells the tale for pizzicato. Less proximity effect makes it sound more natural… and very much like the Nadine. But for arco, the DPA still seems to have an artificial ‘bump’ in the low end. If I were to choose, it would be Nadine. It sounds like the instrument.😊
I just read a few comments and it's like it's turning into a Plywood V none plywood debate , so in the firs instance there is a clue in the Title if you care to read and if you are so hung up on being anti ply as stated in STRINGMATRIX Comments you don't have to watch ,also if he had not mentioned that the Bass was plywood , how many of you would have known (without kidding yourself) I thought the Bass sounds great , and I thank you for putting this Video on I appreciate the time you've spent doing this Video, I have an old German flat back Bass circa 1900 and a 15 year old Fully Carved round back (Gedo Music which is easier to play but wanting to sell as I don't use enough now) and was wondering about strings with different centre cores for easier playability to put on the Older Bass ,any advice ,( I do both Classical and Jazz )
Thank you very much! Easier playability? Maybe Evah Pirazzi slap (all synthetic) or Tempera hybrid. Or you can use a solo set tuned to normal tuning, but I didn't try a lot of those. I heard there is an Evah Pirazzi solo set, that might be interesting too.
There was certainly not a big choice of strings and of course no special jazz strings when jazz was being "invented". But I think at that time most of the strings were gut strings.
Also: Thomastik Spirocores are considered as being "the" jazz string, but as far as I know they weren't developed exactly for that, they are also "orchestral" strings.
@@stringmatrix I use obligato on my carved for the gut tone w/o the problems and I do not notice the oft mentioned string roll, and spiro weich on my knilling thin line laminated
Spirocores are equally good at bow and pizz, that's why I'm using them... In your examples the Spiros had more front of the note 'snap' when played pizzicato and I like it. Didn't hear much difference bowed.
For the past month I have been struggling with playing... culprit? My bridge was WAY out of alignment. Action was sky high and I didn't understand the problem. This video got me straight. Thank you my friend!
# 2 for the Double Bass For the elctric basses it depends a bit on the genre you play, I think. They all sound somehow usable, but # 5 Monkey Banana seems to me to work for the J & P on a good average. But yes, sound is a matter of taste. ;-) Nice test, thx!
Yes, good one, l believe in string mix,l have a 5 string hawkes with following mix: g/d -piastro original, a/e d'ddario hybrid, b belkanto, it most even combo l ever had
Bonjour Hervé et merci pour l'ensemble de ton œuvre, sur ton site ou sur RU-vid, c'est toujours très instructif et pertinent. Je joue actuellement des Evah Pirazzi light et je souhaite essayer les Galli BSN 920. Je voudrais ton ressenti quant à la tension car ma basse a un fort (trop important) renversement et rend la sensation de jeu assez tendue même avec des Evah. Par contre la note est très définie du coup. Ces Galli t'ont parue comparable à des spirocore violet/rouge (light) en termes de tension ? Merci de ta réponse, bien à vous.
Hi and thanks for a great video! What about the 920(bronze right?) vs the ouverture strings. Are they also similar in tension, thickness and sound? I’m playing in fifths so I would have to tune the G up a whole step. Right now I have an Evah medium G tuned to A and it’s a bit tense but works. I’m thinking of giving one a the Galli strings a try.
Thickness: the Ouverture high strings are thinner. Tension: I'm not sure, maybe the bronze had a little more tension, but I don't remember exactly. Sound: For the low strings I think I prefer the Bronze, they have more fundamental and are probably darker (check my string matrix for an impression). I don't have experience with tuning the g higher...
Im on a low budget and my impression from this video is that the tbone ovid is quite muddy sounding and not ideal. Have you tried the newer tbone lucan series and is it any better? If anyone in the comments has an input on this id be glad to hear that too!
goot... logical.... pls suggest,,, we play jazz,,, only for e string,,, we look for excellent punch,,, sustain,,, resonance,,, we await ur response,,, thanx
That's an interesting comment. It sounds nearly like "tell me which string is the best" which is impossible to answer. Also: strings with excellent punch usually don't have a lot of sustain and vice versa.
Hi, you should learn to use the left hand fingers correctly, the usual way is to use only the index, middle and pinky fingers. Check this video and see what I do at 1:10, and try to play the g (open), g#, a and Bb. And of course try to play/pluck open strings with the right hand and develop a good sound. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xRrBSygbd2M.htmlsi=qsDy99X_9ARRl4fg
@@cool-km9ck I also have a video about choosing a bass, here it is, there's plenty of helpful information for you in this film: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-DyYUC5tq8o8.html
A good Shen hybrid can be found usually in the 3-3500 range. If you find a used one, they set up well and sound great, especially at that amount of money, imo. If you're lucky, it'll have a set of Spiro 42s, a decent bag and pickup. Get a good impedence-matching high pass filter (200) and a good neutral/flat amplifier like an Acoustic Image Clarus (good luck) or a Magellan 350 and a good 12" speaker cabinet and it's off to the shed you go for a good stretch WITH A GOOD doublebass teacher. Contact your local university that has a bass Professor. Either they or a grad student should get you up to speed fast! Good luck, from one DCI snare drummer who saw the light and learned the bass! Alll of this should be taken with a pillar of salt and go with the advice from your bass teacher. Good luck, and play to the hat!
My upright bass has a rattle when I play an open G string. I gripped the tuner button and it stopped rattling. Any suggestions for stopping this rattling key. The D, E, and A do not rattle. Super glue where the button and the shaft connect perhaps? This is an old German made bass with brass tuning keys. Any help greatly appreciated.
Check all the screws. If this doesn't help, then the "spiral shaft" (I don't know how this is called correctly) or the "gear" might be worn out. In this case, you can get help with elastic bands which should pull the problem-key in a certain direction. Experiment with elastic bands. It's not a beautiful repair, but even some orchestra players do it this way because the "correct" way would be to replace the whole tuning device.
That's a difficult question, so I'll just describe my impression of the two. Also, I must say it's been a long time since I hat Obligato on my bass. Obligato sound huge and bouncy when played at home. But my impression was, that in a band, their sound turns out to be too smooth, so that it doesn't quite cut through and it lacks a deep interesting color. Galli Ouverture also make the bass sound big. I think they have a little more definition in a band. But I missed a little more "fundamental" on the low strings (the obligato don't have this "problem"). And I prefer the thickness of obligato d and g.
On any synthetic/nylon wrapped string, a slight treatment with sanding paper can improve the arco playing a lot (plus applying some rosin directly onto the string). Though the rolling might be less optimal for bowing, too... I wonder if the metallic sound of the open strings will go away when there are played more. The sound, especially the punch and the sustatin, is really nice!
Welcome! Very good sound! I like buy Eva.But, I dont know the difference the light and medium tension strings between. The light is lower volume, than medium set? The medium set similar tension, than spirocore medium? Thank You for your answear and help!
Difficult to answer, I did play both but I can't really say if the light has less volume. Many people say that the light strings have more sustain and growl, but I always thought that the mediums have more sustain. I think the Evah medium have a little less tension than Spiro medium but I'm not sure here either. Sorry, I don't know everything!
@@stringmatrix Understand! Thank you for Your helpfull answear! 🙂 Yes..i know..this is a not easy ask.At the end i chose Pirastro Obligato orchest. string set
Great sounding strings IMHO. Great punch and nice growly sustain on the bottom strings. However, the rolling, the high tension and mostly the difficulty to bow are a big no for me. Thanks always for your service to the DB community! PS do you plan to review the BSN930? If I'm not wrong it is the only Galli DB string you haven't reviewed yet. Thanks again!
I agree! Concerning the BSN 930: I recorded a little footage with them and will also put it on my channel. But I can already tell you that I wasn't convinced... They are thin (sounding), bright and have a high tension.
@@luke_bass91 no unfortunately not. I like Spirocore when I want that certain bass sound. But I honestly have no idea what the 930 can be good for. I know I may sound harsh but I also say openly that the 900 or the 920 would be my choice if I can't have my oliv/Genssler combination. The 900 and the 920 are great strings.
No, there is a "medium" set but for g and d you have a "stark" option, these have a bigger diameter and a slightly higher tension. In this video I used the normal medium set, no starks.
This is great, I have Helicores on and wish to switch to Spiros on my 2003 Otto Glaesel 3/4 and soon Piastro Perpetuals on a 1937 Kay I'll own soon enough. This program is very valuable. We get enough of the sound and critique to know which directions we'll pick up from here. Thanks. Vedersein !!!
I am currently using the Evah Pirazzi Slaps on E-A-D with an Oliv G string. I believe you experimented with a similar setup a few years ago (but with Olivs on D-G). How would you compare that setup to this? I know the Slaps have much lower tension but wondering if the Evah Pirazzi Weichs have more clarity and volume? Thanks for all that you do my friend!
It depends on what you want to have in the low register. If you want sustain and growl you can take the Evah Weichs. Their sound is brighter than that of the slaps. But as for clarity: in some situations an old school punchy sound gives you more rhythmic clarity than a "singing" sound. As for volume: difficult to say. At the same action height maybe the evahs will seem louder. But when you compensate the low tension of the slaps by putting the action higher, I think they will sound equally loud.
@@stringmatrix Thank you so much for this. I will stick with the slaps. They work so well and sound great to me. I have hand issues so the tension saves me. Russell Hall uses them and he sounds incredible. I think Thomas Morgan played them as well and I love his sound.
I can explain: on this channel I am mainly documenting my search for strings and generally for a good sound as a pizzicato bass player. In this case I stood before the decision, which strings I should put on my plywood bass and I was wondering how different zyex and evah would turn out, so I tried. And I filmed the tests and put them on RU-vid. Nobody has the obligation to watch videos they think are pointless. I don't get a paycheck for my work, the RU-vid money is just enough to buy a pizza and two drinks per month. People who appreciate my work sometimes send me a donation, and I highly appreciate this support when it happens. If somebody wants a special video for a certain topic, they are welcome to contact me and we can discuss a payment. Otherwise, as I said, I just film the tests that I do for myself and I spend quite a lot of time with the editing. Many bassists appreciate my efforts, but you don't have to, and you don't have to watch either.
I feel like this comment is based on the idea that plywood basses are inferior compared to carved basses, which is incorrect. They’re definitely cheaper, but that doesn’t mean that a plywood isn’t a useful instrument for a professional. Carved basses tend to have a more complex tone, but that doesn’t make them better, just different. I’ve played carved instruments that don’t speak at all, and plywoods that sing beautifully. Every instrument is different. If anything, I think this video highlights the fact that the same string can sound quite different on different basses. It’s fun and educational to hear the differences, and it can inform your string journey, provided that you understand that the strings might sound different on your bass. You can get a sense of the tendencies of the strings from these videos, which I think is great.
Actually, many of us do. I'm looking at laminated basses so my expensive carved bass can stay home in certain environments, and because I want that sound in my stable. This video compared the strings I'm considering. + a good ply bass is not inferior when used in the right application, it's different, eddie gomez used one a LOT, as do others. There's a lot of truth to the notion that your sound on any stringed instrument comes from where the rubber meets the road; your hands and the strings you choose.
I've a Swingmaster 30 yrs old Bass and I've played it Many times Sans Pickup.. you'd be Surprised, Of Course, Hand Strength has to be Developed.. This is Likely to do with Many Younger Players accustomed to Amplification.. Try Playing Acoustically when you can.. It Will Strengthen your hands, AND be Beneficial in the Long Run..
Hi, you can certainly obtain a good result with this combination. But for my taste it would not be my first choice. Why? I only know the C414 BULS. It is quite mellow. The DPA is also kind of mellow, but in a different way: it doesn't have a lot of really "pushy" mids. So I would maybe miss some grip in the sound. But still, that doesn't mean you can't get a very beautiful sound with this combo. I would have the DPA over the bridge, facing the ends of the vibrating strings. And the AKG facing the end of the fingerboard and the spot where the player plucks the strings. Get the low-end mainly from the DPA and use the AKG for higher frequency and the percussive sound of the plucking hand. (But no need to cut high frequencies on the DPA).
I Never tried any of these sets on my bass, but just listening to the video I’d say that I like most the Galli 920 bronze. It would be nice to know what are the feelings regarding string tension and ease of use. Thank for your work !