Naruto Uzumaki VS Ichigo Kurosaki 

People still debating this i thought it was a known fact that ichigo is light years ahead of naruto.

At this point, all the relevant bleach characters are powerful enough to throw hands with alot of relevant Dragonball characters. It is what it is.

It’s beyond disappointing that this guy is under 1 million subs, his vidoe is full of great b roll, data book stats, unbiased opinions and full of anime education. Well deserved like and sub from me

1:51 This can be actually wrong. Soul Society is infinite as it contains Muken which was stated to be infinite multiple times. The most common way most haters try to debunk this is by Unohana mentioning Muken to be closed off from Soul Society. When Unohana mentioned Muken to be "closed off" she didn't mean as if it's completely disconnected from the Soul Society, as it was never implied, said or even suggested neither in the anime, manga or light novels. Saying that is is completely disconnected from the Soul Society is just wrong. Since Soul Society is also the "Parallel universe" to WoTL it also makes WoTL infinite. (If you disagree with this, I can send more proof). I won't go over Hueco Mundo, but it's also infinite (infinite ammount of sand and Reishi). This is a Universal+ to Low Multi feat. 1:56 Gremmy created the outerspace (backed by light novels including CFYOW). Now this isn't universal. It's either Solar to Galaxy. In the manga, that is portrayed is either a Star Cluster or a Galaxy. Since we got no confirmation on it being a galaxy, we go to the minimum, that being a star cluster which makes Gremmy at least Solar system which was created in an instant (Mentioned in CFYOW). Creation feats > Destruction feats since the character creates the celestial bodies from their own power system. For creation feats to scale to AP, the creation feat must be done within a reasonably short time and it should be done so with very little effort from the end user. 3:10 Yhwach destroying the main three realms and merging them is a controversial topic. The Soul king's presence was maintaining the worlds from ever falling apart and since Yhwach basically became the Soul King after absorbing Reio, he can sustain the worlds from falling apart if he wished. (also stated to be a Soul King Candidate) 4:48 the statements that Kaguya creates her dimension are mistranslation. Kanji used is "Tsugu (つ-ぐ)" and "Kukan(空間)" which translates to ''Gathering and assembly of space" which imply Kaguya assembled these dimensions rather than creating them. We've never even received a time frame of this so called creation feat. It could've taken years, who knows? The context behind Kaguya's ability is not creating any dimensions because there is no actual proof for that. It's in context to her linking her dimensions with her teleportation ability hence why she can access anyone she wants. Most annoying thing I hear is the fact that wankers say: she calls it "Her Dimensions" means she created them. That is a slothful induction. (Exemple: I can own a house but that doesn't make me house level). Plus Kaguya was effected by the gravity in the Super Gravity dimension. These are some facts that you got wrong or missed.

Nice video and nice break down of things. One thing I would say that was brought up both in this video and in a lot of Ichigo vs Naruto or even just other Naruto characters, is that Naruto has more techniques and or “more experience” due to starting his training as a child and beginning on his path 12 years old to Ichigo’s 15 at the start of the series… This “point” overlooks the fact that practically everyone Ichigo has ever fought has had a more versatile kit than he does, proper training and generally hundreds of years of experience. The fact Ichigo has beaten them all largely under his own power, Zangetsu/White and the Old Man are in fact manifestations of him and his power, and not a separate entity sealed within him supplementing his own great power with its own as is the case with Naruto and Kurama, Ichigo did all that nerfed by the Old Man. He got through every battle with raw power, speed, and raw talent. He has barely scratched the surface of the plethora of Shinigami, Hollow, and Quincy techniques potentially available to him as a result of his unique heritage. The few actual Techniques he has picked up throughout his journey he has learned quickly, almost instinctively and is able to use them on an effective level on par with actual masters of the technique who have knowledge of its more versatile uses like how Ichigo learned Shunpo during his Bankai training and could keep up with Byakuya an actual master of the technique and its variations, in terms of speed and exceeding him when pairing Shunpo with his False Bankai’s speed amp. With Ichigo every feat is generally something he can just do, not fancy techniques that take a lot of effort, just things he can do at a whim (this is true for a lot of, though not necessarily all, Bleach feats by other characters even) when compared to say Naruto characters where the best feats are high end techniques that typically aren’t used with the relative casual ease Ichigo or other Bleach characters are capable of with their own abilities. So Naruto could use Shadow Clones yes, but Ichigo can easily spam Getsuga’s that could rapidly decimate their numbers. In Fate terminology, both Shadow Clone Jutsu and Getsuga Tenshou are Anti-Army, the former allows an individual to become and army and the latter allows the individual to easily destroy the Army… And much of the land they stand upon. Even if you were to try and equalize things as close as possibly for a “fair fight”, the final factors is that while both are known for having crazy stamina and immense amounts of their respective verses Power Sources, only Ichigo has shown that he can fight for three months straight without food, water or rest when he was training in the Dangai and he came out of it with strength to spare for clapping a Transcendent Aizen’s cheeks. Every Shadow Clone is distributed a power of Naruto/Kurama’s strength and for them to be remotely effective as a threat or even a distraction to Ichigo, he’d likely go for quality over quantity and and conserving Chakra for his strongest techniques that still just means he is burning up his reserves while Ichigo is easily keeping apace and fighting more casually, spamming attacks at will. Anyway, enough of this essay no one asked for.

10:37 people often misinterpret that feat. Kaguya was using them to regain her chakra.

Great video though I agree with the scaling of both characters it's more consistent and not hyperbole with Naruto scaling because ppl is run out

the shaking 3 worlds is super downgraded buddy the world of the living is a universe on it's own ( unless u believe our world isn't a universe ) since in the manga it was multiple times stated that the world of bleach is the same as our world with the same stars and scientific discoveries music bands and Etc add to this the multiple statments that the soul society is a mirror dimention to world of living and you got 2 universes since we know that in SS there are stars and galaxies as shown in tozin's back story

W vid for consistently lowballing both Naruto and ichigo

I mean at the end of the show ichigo is a god like being (possible soul king) who has to hold all dimensions togheter. So yeah id say he is pretty strong xD And if ichigo gets a too op oppenent he just gonna make some op kids with orihime xD

Shaking the 3 realms is way beyond multi planetary no statement needed

W VID

Definitely Lowballed Naruto or just aren't aware of his higher end scaling.

bro, when Aizen incinerated a human just by standing next to him, it should have been a dead giveaway

it’s been stated if a Shadow Clone gets sealed it effects the Users Soul, Zanpukto’s cut throw souls so the same logic would apply to Ichigo destroying Naruto’s Shadow clones, Naruto has never even shown soul regeneration feats meaning that Naruto can’t heal from Ichigo’s attacks, The Reaper Death seal Shinigami even damaged and split The Nine Tails or Kurama’s soul in two easily, If Ichigo destroys all of Naruto’s Shadow clones he’s done for

why is it uncerrtain that gremmis destruc abilites areon the sam level as his special ability?

Honestly brouto made the scaling so weird when ishiki is the strongest but some how momoshiki is still a threat and problem. Then ishiki and kaguya power was comparable where she could kill him

Light novels in bleach say the realms arent planet

I just want say one is the gremmy part of the video mainly the nature of hos ability people seem to misunderstanding gremmy when he creates his clones when he create them he doing to to increase the amounts of thing he and Materialized in his mind not increasing his spiritual energy. it his imagination ability that is cap and increased with clone. Read the chapter where gremmy talks about why he creates clone he talks about nature of his ability

I don't think kaguya created the worlds just use time space portaling.

12:48 you brushed over the fact Momoshiki learned about what Kaguya did and that both his and Kaguya’s dimensions are classified as parallel dimensions.

Bro wtf was that Naruto scaling? 😂. Are you Hapi under a throwaway account? Everything you said was straight up false. 1. Toneri sliced the moon in half. The moon has a cavity in it. It is not hollow. When Naruto's chakra blows through the moon. We can see the different layers of the moon. When Kurama beams the Hamura statue. It takes a while for the statue to break through the moon. Its long enough for Toneri to sap Naruto's chakra and say a whole dialogue. This wouldve been instantaneous if the moon was hollow. When flying through the sky in the movie. You can see the entirety of cavity. When Naruto and Hinata destroy the Teinseigan. The cavities walls can be seen when trying to escape. Before Toneri can recover. Tf are you on about? Another argument I heard that clearly disproves this. The moon has been breaking for a week at a relatively fast rate. By the time Naruto and co get on the moon the earth has a new ring of meteors. Every meteor we see fall to the earth are about the size of the villages. This means the moon has been breaking at a fast rate losing city levels of mass. The moon is literally not disclosed to be losing any form or mass to the eye for the people on earth. But its hollow right? Fuck out of here. Also, the moon has more mass and size. Than if we took every land mass on earth and crumbled them into a ball. 2. You ignored all the times characters just flat out state that you're wrong to push your narrative. A: Toneri tells Hinata in the path way. That the world will be destroyed and he wants her to join him on the moon. As his wife till he creates another world. B: Toneri explains to Hinata. His plan is to make the earth and moon blow up. Hinata says this plan is foolish as they all will die. Toneri tells Hinata. The teinseigan core has a barrier that can take the moon and earth's destruction. (It makes no sense to interpret this as a life wipe level event. As Toneri already stated he will make a new world from the ashes of the old one. Anyone who has been to a planetorium has seen the presentation on how we believe the moon came to be. Earth and another planet smashed into each other and while earth took the blow and remained the other planet literally turned into a giant ring of meteors. Over time these meteors came together and formed the moon. Toneri is stating he wants to cause this to happen. But the earth got extremely lucky that it was the planet to give and break away. Toneri is saying the way he's doing things it surely will be destroyed. The moon is moving fast enough to generate enough force to take them both out. The moon has been around since before the dinosaurs each year it moves awat from earth. It still isnt far enough that its disappeared from the night sky. Billions of years later. Toneri is moving towards earth in 1 week. The moon already moves at 2800mph. Imagine how fast the moon must be going in The Last.) C) Naruto can destroy that barrier in base form with a rasengan. So did Toneri lie? Its not likely seeing as Toneri would be going kamekazi. While simultaneously planning on playing Adam and Eve with Hinata. The movie also never exposes this to be a lie. Not even when Hamura appears and tells Hinata to stop Toneri. He doesnt do so with the revelation that the Teinseigan isnt strong enough to really survive the destruction and everything will be over for everyone. He doesnt want it done because he loves his brother and his creation should be left to find its own way. C.2) Toneri's teals chakra cloak is the barrier. It is not a byproduct of the Teinseigan he awakened. This is why the eyes are within him when he absorbs the suns energy. Naruto is legit shown to 1 shot Toneri through the cloak in Bijuu Sage Mode. D. Shikamaru is making his claim after seeing Naruto do this (B.2) In Storm 4 the last Naruto and Sasuke. Are shown to heavily scar the continent in a team ultimate. Where they both use their fist. NOT any of their power. They just casually rush and punch the shit out of the target. This causes giant fissure to erect across the continent. static.wikia.nocookie.net/23b0ffcf-b8d9-4424-8474-145f09a2d2ae/scale-to-width/370 this is internally consistent as the next movie feature Kinshiki. Which the games also display his stated strength as his ultimate splits the planet to its core. Across a huge area. And then its further backed by Naruto grasping a Golden Wheel Rebirth and crushing it in his hand in the movie. I can make another comment about your misinformation on the Kaguya thing to. But to simply debunk it. Youre asserting Kaguya needs anyone on earth. When the ten tails had almost as much chakra as the earth (incomplete ressurection), Madara's partially (complete resurrection) is stated to be nothing to the amount of chakra Kaguya had. Come on now dude. Be fr. Naruto and Sasuke believed they beat Madara's ass. Sasuke was petrified off Kaguya's reserves alone. Kaguya can pull space and overlay reality. For reference Adult Sasuke who scales above her. Opening a portal to a different time-space. Takes 50% of his power shutting down the rinnegan for a while. Kaguya can do this 3-4 times and use the Amenotenojikara, plus hide within space, and use the Amenominaka before needing the chakra from earth. When she finally was fatigued as said by Zetsu dude. Stop scaling Naruto bro 😂 that take was terrible. Sound just like Hapi.

I agree that ichigo>naruto But that kaguya scaling was absolutely nasty. Kaguyas creation and destruction feats were based on her chakra not hax. Kcm2 tiers and above are planetary with kaguya tiers and above being star bare minimum. Momoshiki, a dimension creator himself, had stars in his dimension. Momoshiki>kaguya and Naruto and sasuke>momoshiki. Adult Naruto is BARE minimum star with ftl speeds

Kaguya doesnt create dimensions. She shifts between them.

Drop your discord and let's debate this

Lol, Is this Dygoknight?? I agree Ichigo wash Naruto with 0 difficulty and its not even close.. VL Ichigo would murder him.

Ichigo is better

by doing clones doubles of himself gremmi reduced his spiriutla energy 1/7th

Naruto is the goat my favorite

Even how your scaling gremmy is mad wtf. 1/5th galaxy...? When he could have simply just imagined more copies of himself... his nerf was he was naive and was phycologically limited and beaten by insecurity. His imagination truely had no limit lol.

Bleach scales way higher than Naruto in every possible way but the lowball of Naruto is actually bonkers, I mean you took the least impressive scaling of their Naruto, if you are using data books, he easily get to planetary and possibly star level The statement of destroying a continent wouldn't be talking about AP but DC, because we have already seen thes DC feats performed by Kurama and ten 10 tails, Ten < Ten tails Obito < One eyed Rinnegan ten tails madara < 6 paths Naruto and Sasuke < Dual Rinnegan Madara, the scaling chain is just long, plus most blatant moon level feat, you ignored is Hagoromo and Hamura creating a moon and Kaguya was still stronger than both of them, proving again choosing something presented from the data book over a feat that happened in the manga and anime kinda seems like an attempt to downplay Lemme say this one more time, Shikamaru might be referring to their DC not AP, to make even things more worse Shikamaru have never seen their full power, he never saw any of these dudes fight before, anyways this won't change the fact Fullbring Ichigo dawgwalks the verse but the point is, if it was not an attempt to downplay then your research about the naruto verse was Tik Tok level research or your knowledge of the Naruto verse altogether is awefully lacking

Prime soul king vs goku who wins ?

I think you kinda lowballed the senjumaru feat but W video nonetheless

The soul king keeping the world's together has to be spirit energy based and not a hax because it wasn't made clear that his powers give a hax like that when with each body part had a hax ability that nowhere like that. Almighty is a clear hax ability not really limited to your spirit energy. Even if it was a hax your spirit energy have to be really high or relative for it to work. Either way I give Ichigo highball universal or galaxy level if you don't think the world's are not dimensions or not referring to the universe

The creation feat for kaygay Can't be applied As in the original translation for the data book That a lot of people use to argue Universal has a mistranslation It stated that she Assembled These worlds together as in she used her powers to shape the landscapes And terrains

Ichigo lowballed: Naruto wins high to extreme diff Ichigo Moderately scaled: Beats Naruto low to mid diff Naruto and Bleach fans: TF ??

What?…..both of the scaling here is kinda just… my naruto vs ichigo is very outdated and ass but ts is kinda bad in terms of scaling imo great video tho

Lol naruto reacting to lightfang was definitely not light speed. He didnt dodge the actual beam only moved out of the way of it which would make him 'faster than madaras head could turn' not lightspeed lol

The way he lowballed naruto is insane……😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

It genuinely makes no sense to call Bayron mode planetary along side kaguya cuz kaguya needed Tso along with other tailed beast amps to get to that tier of strength... So how would Bayron mode with a single tailed beast just casually reach it, Bayron mode is definitely weaker than planetary

I do agree that Ichigo is stronger than Naruto. But that Naruto scaling was pretty atrocious. To say that Kaguya is only continental is pretty ridiculous. She's easily bare minimum planetary, it took a planetary technique to even seal her and her needing chakra from the shinobi alliance was clearly her trying the replenish her chakra. It doesn't even make sense that their chakra was a requirement to perform the feat because a weaker form Naruto was able to give everyone in the shinobi alliance several times the amount of chakra they normally have, hell, if their chakra was that significant for an attack that going to wipe out her dimension, that only proves she's way beyond planetary.

Tf kind of scaling is this bro, are you trying to make us laugh or what? You need to do more research before coming here and telling nonsense like fr

11:38 there’s nothing putting Ichigo at MFTL.

Kagura wasn't just going to destroy the planet nor was she just going to destroy the dimension. Its specifically stated by Kakashi that the truth seeker was going to keep expanding and reach them no matter what dimension or space-time they travel to which includes the kamui dimension, Kaguya's other dimensions, and the original space-time in with Earth resides/the universe. After hearing this Naruto then resolves to save to his world from being destroyed by this attack with the storm games even saying Kaguya was threatening the entire history of ninja with this attack. This attack is very clearly uni+.

ok so no naruto has planetary feats starting a one eye madara growing the god tree and catching ninja who are at least lightning speed while the tree spreading through out the planet. madara later absorbs that now stronger tree back into himself. two planetary feats naruto gets so6p and makes one madara run this puts naruto in base over one eye madara and sasuke cut this madara in half over coming his durability. two more planetary feats. oh and naruto can stack kcm2 on top of this power that is at least a 90x multiplier given naruto in kcm2 gave thousands of ninja three times more chakra that if given only to naruto would be at least 3000x more chakra if he didn't share it as well as sage mode which is at least 50x's. kaguya who is well above ten tails madara who by that point had three eyes with each eye being a boost in power. kaguya was made of all the tail beast and half of kurama who was the one who naruto used to amp thousands of ninjas. naruto got the other half from his father. kaguya's sons sealed her into the moon at planet level amounts of chakra. this kaguya wasn't at full power. every jutsu in naruto needs chakra to make stuff if you don't have the chakra to do so you died and madara is a great show of this since he and obito blew up like balloons. since you didn't watch or read the novels just google your stuff you know momoshiki ate the chakra from a star killing it which cause a supernova. the fact you tnik isshiki who is stronger the jigan who was dog walking naruto and sasuke is close to kaguya in power. hell sasuke who fought kinshiki and knew of momoshiki told naruto they were a greater threat then kaguya with sasuke telling boruto that he and the kages could handle kaguya. now that is backed up when the kages are able to handle kinshiki and a weaken naruto along side a weaken sasuke beat down base momoshiki who had to get kinshiki to get over the weaken his foes. these feats alone get naruto over star level and there are multiple statements and feats that get naruto to universal+

Gremmy doesn't scale to his creations and ichigo is nowhere near light speed

Yeah yeah you don't like to use data books there's nothing wrong with using data books

This is terrible power scaling completely killed this video you want to know why because every time you try to power scale these characters it gets toxic in Breakdown durability attack strength raw power speed versatility office defense why can't you do that is very simple other than his power scaling bulshit this video is straight up trash I never see no garbage like this in my life