Naruto VS Ichigo | Debunked | Why Ichigo Kurosaki Is Stronger Than ScrewAttack's Lies | 1080p HD 

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Last Arc Base Ichigo was at Mugetsu level. Screwattack just did the scaling so badly for Ichigo. And I’m sad RU-vid recommends me this video years later.

Y'all keep in mind this was an extreme low ball because ichigo's visard mask compares to an espada release which is equivalent to the bankai a 5 to 10 multiplier. But he only used 2 times multiplier for the hollow mask

I have even encountered stupid people saying Madara can beat someone who can shift the future to his desire(a character from Bleach but i forgot what his name Fan-base of Naruto is so incredibly intolerable to the point where i force myself to click out of any versus battles that involves Naruto characters.Sorry to hinder some people's feeling but i honestly do think Naruto fan-base is cancerous.

STRENGTH Ichigo's strength level is multi-star level to solar-system level because he broke Aizen's Black Coffin which distorts space-time in a manner akin to a black hole. Aizen is also of a similar level because of destroying The Cleaner in the Dangai. With the Dangai being basically a wormhole that the Cleaner's job is to keep it (the wormhole) from collapsing on itself, destroying the Cleaner also puts him at similar level. Ulquiorra is also able to cut through dimensions. Ichigo killing Yhwach also means he is capable of killing immortal characters (like Kaguya and her ilk), as Yhwach was able to rewrite futures where he'd died. You may account the arrow for allowing Ichigo to kill Yhwach, but the arrow's effect only lasts for an instant, and Uryu thus noted that the arrow was useless. SPEED In the infamous Ichigo vs Byakuya battle, Ichigo cut through all of Byakuya's Senbon Zakura petals. Senbon Zakura contains billions of the blades (the plural obviously denotes multiple billions, but in this case it's lowballed to 2 billion). The official guidebook states that Ichigo and Byakuya were moving at lightning speeds, but this was before Byakuya increased the speed of the petals. Quote, "Like lightning, Ichigo pressures Byakuya with god-like speed and attacks him at close range!" In the anime, Byakuya states that he increased the petal speeds by 2x. But in the manga, he says he increased it 3-fold (or the speed of lightning to the power of 3 times.) In the end, cutting through all of these petals this gives Ichigo a speed of over 3 quadrillions (3e+16) times faster than the speed of light. This isn't an outlier, as the characters get faster over the course of the series. Ulquiorra was able to deflect Uryu's Licht Regen (Light Rain), which covered a huge amount of space with millions to billions of lightspeed arrows. Also Ulquiorra has a move called the Black Light(Cero Oscuras) which is instantaneous, yet Ichigo was able to block at point blank range. Also, Ichigo in full hollow mode was able to react and counter the Black Cero with a blast of his own, then speed behind Ulquiorra (a person fast enough to block Uryu's lightspeed arrows) to rip his arm off casually. And again, Aizen's Black Coffin. In a black hole, time basically "stops". So, faster than instant speeds? No. F A S T E R T H A N T I M E. And then he gets FASTER, from when he fought Yhwach. Due to him being able to react to every event that could ever happen across an infinite number of future timelines at the same time, in an instant and change them as he desires. Basically, Ichigo's speed is Omniprescence. DURABILITY Again, Aizen's Black Coffin. Black holes have the power to crush the Earth into a golfball, and Ichigo withstood it. Also, he's tanked blows from Ulquiorra who can slice through dimensions, and could fight Yhwach, who had enough power to destroy the human realm and soul society. Two universes. ENERGY Ichigo destroyed the fullbringer Yukio's dimension by just going Bankai. These dimensions are pockets of infinite space/time, thus Ichigo destroyed an entire plane of reality. (Note: I could not find a reference to how large Yukio's dimensions were in the manga) It's not an outlier, because Menos Grandes can shoot beams of light through hollow realm into the soul society to retrieve Aizen, Ichigo shot through the dimensional barriers from Hueco Mundo to Los Noches Ichigo also shot through the Gates of Hell (Hellverse movie is canon) Also, when Ichigo turned into Mugetsu, he became literally Getsuga Tensho; the "Piercer of Heaven." And again, his power is onpar with Yhwach who can destroy two universes. So there you have it, Omnipresent, universal, dimension destroying, immortal killing Ichigo.

I love how the down played mugetsu to the point where it look like a regular getsuga tensho! It should have at the very least hurt him!

Ichigo Survived Aizens FRAGOR AND Obliterated KUROHITSUGI which is said to bend space and time in his weaker forms with limiters. ScrewAttack Left That Out For Convinience sake

Ty bro, I'm glad I'm not the only one that saw all these BS, and I'm glad u found even more, u do good work, +sub, keep it up

Ya screw attack never studied Ichigo only Naruto screw attack is a dicrace !

Naruto has no chance of winning against ichigo

bleach best anime i ever seen and alot better than naruto i srsly i hope the anime will come back soon !!

For a certain someone in the comment section, since you seemed to ignore me last time. For the “last” time dude this video has nothing to do with why Naruto wouldn’t win against Ichigo. I clearly stated several times that I used screw attacks own calculations. I only used my own scaled calculations as an example or a reference baseline to make a point about screw attacks numbers they somehow came up with. My calculations were my own conservative numbers based on my opinion with some minor backed up statements and clear observation of scenes that happened both in the “Manga” and “Anime” and the piont being to that the maths screw attack came up with calculating ichibees feat was not done any bit remotely correctly. I did my scaling section of the video as in the sense of a saractisic remark that anyone can come up with false numbers, even though my scaling would put Ichigo significantly weaker than I’d assume what his true power in tales. I also stated screw attack lowballed both characters quite significantly. I personal felt they did ichigo dirty more. All screw attacks calculations were incorrect for the most part. Also no need to insult people if you have a problem, express your reason in a civililised manner. I could probably debunk many of the statements and you’re scaling off just top of my head, but the way you insult people for having different opinions. Would probably mean you would never listen to reason or any valid points other people would have. Also don’t insult “Bleach” whole as series, you can share you distaste with many things you might you not have liked about it. But disrespecting a series so many enjoy and probably brought happiness, and ran for 15 years is just stupid. I never once disrespected the “Naruto” series might have thrown sly remarks at Naruto as a character maybe. So don’t come on a Beach based channel and expect to find people falling all over Naruto and then disrespect them by insulting them and calling their favorite series trash.

Thank you, Good Arguments, Great Video, Ichigo was hugely downplayed. Keep making videos

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and it was said that most of ichigo power was seal. but death battle did not even talk about. so dangi was like 10% of his power

Thank you for your service to mankind. You have no idea just how hard it was to watch Screw attack screw up (pun intended) you also did the math I was trying to do so again thank you

very good video, great explanation, i like both shows, but disagree with ichigo not landing a single hit on naruto, that's just unrealistic.

Here is the reason screwattack purposely rigged the outcome: To please narutards and get more likes. nuff said

I love how you did the calculations, kudos to you

Pretty sure yukios dimensions before the ichigo amp can contain entire stars, so ichigo going bankai and destroying one even stronger than his inferior star holding. Now let that sink in. This is fullbring bankai whilst he has his powers restricted to 1/5 by his badge. So that's atleast 5 stars or large star level bordering solar system level.

narutards don't realize that bleach power level shouldn't be compared naruto power level smh, even Renji stomps naruto tbh

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Very nice calcs even if you didn't use the return stroke of lightning and the step ladder instead you lowballed all calcs and he still would have ended up faster than they said

Little did he know that DeathBattle once again lowballed another Bleach character (Aizen vs Madara)...

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Screw attack wanked Naruto, lol they were basically saying that chakra explosion is multiple times bigger than lanza. Lol 480,000,000,000MT for an explosion less than 100m blast wave, I'm done

The funny part is that you severely lowballed and still got higher stats. If you use the bleach databook you can get ichigo to lightspeed before he even knew his zanpaktou name. Since ceros are described as spiritual light and also quincy arrows are light based as well. Also balas are 20x faster than ceros so you could use that as another multiplier. And hollowification is comparable to bankai so it would be 5-10 multiplier not 2. But W video regardless

People say true bankai ichigo is weak but we only seen a couple chapters of it because ywach was shook of his bankai and never let him go bankai ywach has Yamamoto bankai which can collapse both worlds by collateral damage and ichigo is stronger than that only because an assumption that ywach never let ichigo in bankai and let Yamamoto too

the luffy roast on the beginning tho

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ichigo completly destroys naruto

So um let's say his first bankai was as fast as lightning which is 220k mph then he has to be minimum 2× faster to counter byakuya then 10× for the hollow mask then another 10× for the Vasto Lorde form then 2× since he only had like less than half his max reiatsu then 10× for the dangai then maybe another 10× for the final getsugatensho and so let's say his true shikai is at final getsugatensho lvl so then finally 10× for the true bankai which makes him like 88 billion mph

Ichigo beats naruto all day, great video

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Ichigo is like light speed since he scales past Shuei who was light speed in the soul Society arc and literally everyone else after that arc besides the humans are light speed.

Well there you have it😎👏 now we know for sure that ichigo would beat naruto with the right analysis and calculations done proparly. I do almost beleive that scene with screwing up ichigo by giving him a goddamn stick was to insult the bleach fanbase real good😒. I wish you were the one who made their reasearch for them, because ScrewAttack only made naruto the winner because of the popularity. 😒 They didn't even know the real reason for Bleach's rushed ending wich shows how little they actually knew 😠

Lol from how fast ichigo is with scientific teories hed be getting into time travel

Ichigo in the manga would rock narutos shit

On top of the calculations their should be some multiplications on the DC of Ichigo's attacks to opponents reiatsu whether they have alot or none. Without this, lanza del relampago is stronger than fragor, and kurohitsugi is downplayed alot, the kurohitsugi that put dowm komamura is atleast 33,000 times weaker than the one used on Ichigo, Komamura tanked soi fon's bankai that shouldn't even been downplayed to the level of a simple nuke. Edit: kurohitsugi is the equivalent of about 33,000 jakuho raikoben blasts

Reminder: Yhwach absorbed the Soul King, aka GOD, and added his power to his own, which was already hella powerful to begin with. And Ichigo's new Bankai still killed him. He had trouble hitting him because of The Almighty, but when he did, he KILLED him. Yhwach only survived because of The Almighty's BS power to rewrite timelines, INCLUDING ONES WHERE HE DIES. If just a New Bankai Getsuga killed him, Naruto shouldn't be able to survive that plus Vasto Lorde Ichigo's Gran Rey Cero. Keep in mind that a regular GRC from Hueco Mundo Unreleased Grimmjow was enough to warp space as it traveled, and that Grimmjow was trash compared to Last Arc Ichigo. Also, anyone remember how the Shadow Clone Jutsu cuts the user's chakra between each clone? This might not be a problem for Naruto in base, but I doubt Kurama could handle applying KCM to ALL 1000+ clones that were used in that fight, and definitely wouldn't have the chakra to put him into 6 Path Sage Mode and use the Kurama Avatar after definding against a New Bankai level Mugetsu (which Ichigo probably shouldn't have).

Screwattack knew naruto has more ratings than bleach, if bleach had more fans ichigo would have won

The calcs were a little wrong bc 320000000 FEET per second would only get mileage in the hundreds of thousands but you also forgot about ichi's healing factor bringing him back to life, which naruto can't do

do madara vs ichigo many people will comment madara because of his ems and the type of madara is the 3 eyed plz do dangai ichigo vs eyed madara (Want to see wat evidence the madara fans will put

this was the worst death battle they ever did

And are we gonna forget that screwattack based narutos "moon" level calculations from a moon that was *HOLLOW*?

ok no you low balling Naruto's Intro: Hes so fast that he Dodged a Light Fang . He's even tough enough to survive getting stabbed, have his soul ripped out, or get smacked in the face by a blade tough enough to cut the moon. 1) Naruto getting stabbed in KCM3 by Sasuke's sword is a huge anti-feat and a clear indicator of why Ichigo would carve through Naruto like butter. Naruto has terrible durability to blades and he's solely blunt force and energy based durability. 2) Naruto is not tough enough to resist soul manipulation. Nagato's soul tear is extremely weak and requires the subject to be incapacitated and you can literally resist it by pulling back on your soul like Naruto did. Souls in Naruto are tangible for some reason and you can pull back with your hands to stop it. 3) It's implied that Naruto did not get hit by the first usage of Toneri's GWR that cut the moon. Naruto is completely fine and comes back with a bunch of clones. If he somehow no-sold it then it would be a huge outlier given this feat was done in his weaker form, KCM3, and his more powerful So6P mode was being hurt repeatedly by much weaker attacks. Also, just look at point number 1 where Naruto was easily stabbed in his KCM3, it's an outlier. This list. 1) He only tanked Toneri's slice when he focused all his Chakra into his arm as a shield. 2) He did not power through Amataerasu, he had to use his Chakra Cloak to block the flames and then throw off the cloak to avoid direct contact with it. Ichigo's Intro: Learning martial arts from his father. Ichigo literally went to karate classes and was able to fight and beat a black belt who came 2nd in Nationals with a broken arm. He learned how to use a sword from Urahara and he would continuously get in fights with delinquents. However His dad didn't teach him shit besides maybe to always expect the unexpected. Ichigo was trained by Urahara, Yoruichi, Hiyori and Uryu. Urahara and Yoruichi did directly train him to get Shikai and Bankai respectively. Hiyori helped him better use his Hollowfication, she did this with literally 7 other characters that helped Ichigo.. They also left out being trained by Zangetsu and Old Man Zangetsu multiple times, including the Royal Guards. The Xcution also all helped him train for Fullbring. Ulquiorra, who is powerful enough to nuke a city. Ok so las noches is almost as big as texas sense Los noches is a square caste and is stated by nel that it takes 3 days to reach the nearest gate so since the smallest possible distant to travel is a straight line, we will say the nearest gate is at the other end of the wall. In this case to work out distant we use (Speed x Time) 3 days=72hours and average walking speed is 5km/h sense this is nell saying this and sense shes confident enough to tell them about it then obviously she knows how long it will take keep in mind these are hollows who are stronger and faster than humans some having a version of flash step thats as fast as sound its not a flash step its called somthing else sorry for not knowing the name but lets say their only 2x faster than an avreage huamn so 10 miles an hour (72x10=720) that's one side of the Square shaped castle, to work out the area you do (720^2=518,400^2km) 518,400^2 is almost the size of texas btw. BE AWARE that nel states the NEAREST gate is a 3 day away this is a miss conception but no it is from their it never said Walk never did it say walk. so ive low balled los noches by saying the closest gate is a straight walk along one side of los noches meaning one side is 720km long or a 3 days walk with the average walking speed (km). Also, since the Zangetsu (Vasto Lorde) section is over, they forgot to address that he was at less than half power during the fight with Ulquiorra. Ichigo's Bankai Shihakusho (clothes he wears) is an indicator of how much power he has at the moment and he had less than half of it remaining when he curbed Ulquiorra. Also he is constantly being supressed by old man zangetsu this is also ignorning the fact that grimjows grand re was gonna destroy las noches and ulqiorra by just releasing could do that We know that in the fight against byakuya that ichigo is as fast as lightning (the speed of lightning is 220,000,000 the speed of thunder is 750 mph so you cant say that ichigo was only that fast sense thats not the speed of lightning) and that was at the beginning after that he doubled his speed. Lightning is 220,000,000mph he doubles it so 440,000,000 so then he gets shit on by yami and grimjow so he trains in the mask and lets just say that with all his expirence he got up until grimjow he got 3 times stronger so he would be able to go 1,320,000,000mph and then he goes hollow lets low ball and say that its only a 5x increase. He can go at max then 6,600,000,000mph to be on par with grimjow before and after transfermation. Ok so now lets get into after into ulqiorra well he blitz him in first reserection so lets say hes 1.5x faster than him so 9,900,000,000 and then he releases his secound relase lets just say 5x.49,500,000,000 ok so ichigo blitz him in (vaste lordez) lets say hes only double him 99,000,000,000mph ok then he was at half power then so double that number 198,000,000,000mph and zangetsu if im getting this right was supressing him about 40% so he would be about so at max or this would be dangai 277,200,000,000. Ok so now yes i know this is long ywach says this is his base form sense he regained his powers from then and he was in base. Sense its unselaes lets just put a 2x more multipler on it so times 7 for bankai and 7 for hollowifcation sense its all his power. SO Ichigo's top speed is 13,582,800,000,000mph BTW that is not even the fastest lighting can go it clocking out at 320,000,000 Refrence the speed of light is: 670,616,629Mph So ichigo is 20,254x times the speed of light naruto best regen feat- heals hole in chest ichigos best regen feat- heals arm AND hole in chest AND heart Naruto's Chakra Moon Crater I do have an issue with them saying that it was "Base Naruto". Technically it was base Naruto, but that was the entire Chakra in him so it's more than "Base Naruto", it'd be his entire pool of Chakra. The moon feat. Naruto only truly no-sells the blast when he concentrates his KCM3 Chakra Cloak into his arm to use as a shield to stop Toneri's GWR. As seen with his KCM3 form as an adult, Naruto is prone to simple stabbing and it knocks him out his form. His bladed durability is infamously low. Also no Naruto with his arm out with the Chakra concentrated could not no-sell Ichigo's attacks, but even if he could that would that leaves him open to everywhere else on his body...which is no better when it comes to being pierced. for those who are to lazy to read all that ICHIGO WINS BECAUSE He is SOOOOOOOO much faster He has better regen you may want to deny it but their is nothing that implies that the nine tails is on ichigos lvl of regen and if u want to argue well your forgetting that the nine tails couldnt heal narutos arm which zangetsu did along with his heart. Can hit hard enough to damage naruto and if u want proof well here it is Las noches is almost the size of texas and ulquiorra lance was the size of ⅓ of it ok in vasto lordes ichigo overpowered that and made an explosion comparable to that after. So that would be about las noches lvl then also we after the ichigo's first cero ulquiorra hits back with his and it actually almost cancels out ichigo's pushing it back again though which means that it would have to be stronger than the lance that he threw before. Ok so if you dont get it a grand re cero aka ulquorras lance all espda 5 have a chance to destroy las nocehs. Aizen forbid it himself so yes this is a big deal so ulqiorra who is 4 and has 2 releases on top of being able to lanch this attack off in base. Ulqiorra was able to repedidly lanch attacks that were ⅓ of las noches. Bleach is an manga where the amont of space you destroy is not equal to the lvl of the attack. So ulqiorra is lanching out energy blast that would be on par maybe with texas low balle. With what we know that would be about bar none at max ichigo 5 texas in dangai. Now lets get into something and that would be how much more powerful does getsuga make ichigo's strikes. A shikai is 2x but thats to speed and power so that means the getsuga that ichigo puts out are 2x stronger and faster than what he is currrently at if he doesn't hold it. So ichigo's base and adding bankai and hollow to be 14x that and estimating that a full power GRAND RE CERO and Full power getsuga tensho would be about a 10x on top of that. I got to that because bankai makes you 10x stronger and ichigos getsugas become black and red so lets just say it becomes a 4 senses its stronger. Also a cero is comparable to a getsuga charged up and its a grande re cero so lets say its 6x. So he would be able toSo he would be able to bust texas 700 times over with that. And with his spirital presuure he would be able to do this multiple times if not charge it up and make it even more devestating. But heres the thing earth can hold texas 103 times so ichigo would triple planet bust with each of these. No matter what u say naruto cant shrug off these lvl of attacks easily. Ichigo is better at regeneration Ichigo beats narutos deences because naruto is weak to swords naruto ONLY has destructive capability and arcenal over ichigo

11:10 didn't you pay attention when they say mugetsu was an attack. in fact they highball him even more by that logic.

And wouldn't Ichigo using Mugetsu against Naruto be a lot stronger then what we seen, by their own numbers, that Mugetsu should not only killed Naruto but the whole Planet! it's like 50 times stronger then it was past added on.

Dude, the speed of the return stroke of lightning is WAY too fast for the Ichigo that had just gotten bankai like a day ago, the Ichigo that was getting crushed under the power of his own bankai. It was stated that he's the speed of lightning, which imo is the perfect estimate.

Good shit

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good vid

7:45 only vastor lorde can regenerate.

All of this could have been pretty much summed up by, remember that episode early on in the anime and manga, where ichigo was learning the name of his Zanpakuto, when here's the kicker ICHIGO states simply that SOUL REAPERS cannot be harmed by normal means. AKA jutsu, chakra(Which is a mix of spiritual and physical abilities) is debatable to even be able to harm him in the first place. In the context of the anime only hollows(WHICH ARE SOULS) Zanpakuto(THE SWORDS OF A SOUL REAPER) Quincy(WHO USE ENERGY CONNECTED TO SOULS) or a ARRANCAR(A MIX BETWEEN HOLLOW AND SHINIGAMI) CAN HARM THEM aka it's a super debatable ideal that something born of the bodies energy which isn't directly connected to a soul could even harm Ichigo in the first place.

10:55 they are actually showing that ichigo never gives up.

Ichigo's regular casual swings>>>>>>Naruto asura mode multi rasengan bijuu explody thingy

The point of this video was not to prove that Ichigo could beat Naruto, but to prove that Screwattack uses made up calculations just for the hell of it. Most of these comments are pure trash. Not because of the numbers or the quotes and other information, but because of the people typing them. When one has a debate one is respectful and provides the information calmly. These are not debates, this is nothing but name calling and stupidity on BOTH sides of this argument. Everyone is entitled to their OPINIONS, which is what all of this is. Opinions. Provide links(which some of you did), provide numbers, and provide vetted information. Not oh this youtuber said this or you're an 'Ichitard' or 'Narutard'. That is not debating, that is the reason why people think us anime and manga lovers are all weaboos. Because most of us don't know how to be humble and take the opinions of others in a calm and collected manner. Jesus, why do I even read these comments. It's like asking for a bullet to the brain.

Ichigo can destroy black hole. Ichigo can stop with using 1 hand

More importantly the Naruto fandom thinks that Naruto characters are the strongest charcters which is very very f ing annoying

Remember when Aizen was talking warping space but then he was impressed by destroying a half ass mountain but madara weakest form the just slashed a lot of mountain like 20 of them and was still dragging his sussanoo sword on the ground madara vs five kage but you will probably get the view of when it happens in the game

Just cause naruto wants to be hokage and says it doesn’t mean my guys weak

What's worse they were comparing naruto's whole base form chakra against one cero attack (and they took that as ichigo's whole reiatsu in their calculation ) That's the equivalent of comparing naruto's rasengan to ichigo's reiatsu. Talk about low balling ichigo to the maximum.

I think bleach should come back on to

That’s crap the shoulder from Sasuke was end of part 1 and narutoes power was uncontrolled during the moon feat and not intentional or from naruto himself as he is far stronger than a chunk of the moon but rather planetary debate me boy or just get nerve to go up against seth the programmer and I really like bleach and think ichigo does a bit better than what they gave him credit when at his true power and narutos true power but I’m just saying narutoes light speed reaction isn’t even a good feat cause naruto gets way stronger as shown in the fight with kaguya

Look we have to look at attack speed combat speed reaction speed and travel speed

Why not scale naruto

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Okay Bleach fans comment on Naruto fanboy group Naruto fans: get outta here fuckers!! Bleach fans comment on a bleach fanboy channel Naruto fans: this is straight up trash What the hell is wrong with these people...I'm a die hard Naruto fan but these comments pisses me off

I mean neither character got rid of their worlds God alone. Naruto had Obito, Sasuke, Sakura, and Kakashi. They couldn't even kill her they had to seal her. Ichigo had Uryu and Aizen who is basically an Eldrich being the same as Ywaha Bach(God level Eldrich being the same as Kaguya). I don't get why people try to scale Naruto and Ichigo to Kaguya and Ywaha, because Naruto and Ichigo were still both far outmatched. They got lucky as well because he was still a quincy and Uryu created an opportunity for Ichigo to kill him.

I am a naruto fan and ichigo should win

Y do the Naruto fans just not get it like he's fucking 14 billion miles speed like what the fuck and for all the older commenters know they say ichigo only island buster AHHAHAHAHAHAHABABHAB

And let's not forget that not only that ichigo IS stronger than Naruto, at most naruto would be his equal, but let's not forget that even if he is his equal, ichigos salvation horn isnt complete... so therefore ichigo will get more power a lot more too because his salvation horn is only at about 30% finished. So even if naruto is his equal or a little weaker, remember ichigo salvation horn isnt complete so not only would he smash naruto, but also naruto showed his full power ichigo really hasn't. Ichigo showed his full form, but his power is still growing.

Naruto Healed a hole in his Chest in part 1 that was done by Sasuke Chidori, 12 yr old Naruto did what ichigo did in his Bankai form. this is Naruto in1 tail cloak mode with Kurama being forced to lend him Chakra. Current Naruto and Kurama are bonded, Also Naruto further utilises this healing factor by heling a Wound of a blade that went through his heart. Not to mention Naruto in his sixth path mode is able to Heal entire destroys organs and returns body parts in an instant. Ichigo's healing factor was only used in given moment and not always utilised, Naruto has shown constant healing throughout the series, ichigo has only shown healing through plot armor.

Both of the characters are downplayed as hell

I likethe video but naration is somewhat not clear

Naruto is Solar System/ SS+ level. Casually Moon Level in his base.

"Speculation: The Movie!"

Sure. But let us be fair here. Ichigo do not really got all that much personality to him in the first place. At least not to an extent that I found memorable. He is cooler tho, so I guess that makes up for a lot. Maaaan. I both love and hate power calculation stuffs. Sure its using a math to try to calculate stuff. But I just... bleh. I do not find it very convincing to begin with. How much of what we see is really meant to represent the power compared to being meant to just look flashy and cool? And how can we even trust the speeds we are looking at things in the show? Are we watching a battle in real time or are we speeding up to keep up with the characters? Is time like... bending around the characters? For one could wonder if it is sometimes. Well, I mean the bankai is clearly on the stronger side, probably being one of those that at least 10x his power. He is the mc after all. And the hollow mask works basically the same as a bankai and we know his "hollow" powers are top of the top. To say his mask boost him 10x would probably be too low. Oh and for the sake of speed... Speed is like Itchigo's big boost. He probably gets 10x just in power. Speed? probably a fair bit more than that. >_> And here we have one of those things I hate. I just do not like faster than light stuff. Yes, in theory it makes sense I guess. But... its the speed of light. It ends up just seeming dumb to me. :( I mean. The databook is not really clear at all. Like lightning. That is basically just saying that he is insanely fast, similar to a lightning is extremely fast. The real descriptor for his speed is that it is god like. But what do that even mean? I do not know how fast I would put Ichigo to be at the time. Speed of lighting, sure I guess why not. But this is exactly why I find it problematic. It ends up being in large part about the impression something gives a person. I could say that Luffy could beat Ichigo. And I would not really be wrong, for there is no really solid fact fact there. Its all in the air as fantasy at the end of the day. :/ "feats" are never really all that solid it would seem to me.. But its not all. You must point out that even during his fights with the same boosters. His power and speed goes up at least a couple of time even just fighting around with the espada. His base like doubles several times resulting in those we would find super fast at the start of the arc being somewhat slow while he is in the same form.

naruto only wins because of fanbase, im a naruto fan and i dont like bleach a little but screwattack downplays alot of characters just like they do in the comics and anime movies for sucess

they did lowball him but naruto wins still

Naruto kinda got low balled they calculated his speed in his weakest kurama mode with half of its chakra and naruto could get a lot more powerful depending on how much nature energy is around him and it was stated that momoshiki was destroying dementions with stars and solar systems in it

1:26 really now you're just hating

Naruto has literal space time abilities ichigo doesn't measure up there.

Naruto is Moon level while Ichigo is planet level.Check out vs battle wiki if you dont believe me.

KCM1 Naruto is 72x FTL. Or he can be scaled to 115x FTL

Actually Sasuke targeted Narutos lungs in their "first" fight.

wait wait wait wait why does the movie naruto feats get mention i thought the movies never countied yet we dont see ichigo hefl god form he had

As much as I like Ichigo cuz both Of these characters are my favorite ones of all times but even then based on the feats we've seen from both, Naruto just had the better and more conclusive feats. As for speed they downplayed both characters, heavily.

Adult Naruto can also be scaled to 100 thousand times the speed of light

Naruto wins

show them Narutards

I like both of them so I couldn’t root for one

ichigo is better then naruto for me too

"He doesn't go around screaming, I wanna be Soul King" Dude, this is actually a major problem with the Bleach series as a whole. It's main character has literally zero motivation. Where Naruto and Luffy proactively drive their stories with their ambitions, Ichigo is reactively dragged along by the plot of his story. Ask yourself this, if Ichigo's friends weren't in constant danger, what would Ichigo do? What does Ichigo want? Who exactly IS Ichigo? These are things you need to establish about your main character in order to tell a decent story. The lack of a character-driven narrative is part of the reason Bleach spiraled into irrelevance as fast as it did. Your characters are supposed to drive the story, not the other way around.

I hate it when the losing fans can't accept the outcome. IN ANY CASE did you miss that part where they say the 480 billion is BASE Naruto? Imagine what it gets to in Kurama bijuu mode...

I don't need any bias bleach fans here we all know your bias since your literal profile picture is about ichigo.

Honestly I don't care about calculations. I'm upset that they disrespected both of these fanbases with awful math. You cannot equate uncontrolled chakra to controlled chakra, that's explained very early on with Kakashi. Ichigo had no reason to use or even have mugetsu. Especially not after obtaining his true shikai and bankai. The whole fight was just disrespectful.

In hell verse ichigo almost accidently blew open the gates of hell with his mask, so yeah uh, fuck the math ichigo wins

1:59 you do know, ichigo wouldn't be able to damage naruto because he can't hurt people with greater spiritual power than him.