i laugh when i see leftest women wanting to go toe to toe with men.. its painfully ironic they have never been in a real combat situation and wouldn't be able to hack it in a life or death scenario, neither could i but then again if i was ever in a war id be a cowardly marksman
Not even what's been happening, and if I have to clean up the puke of a fucked up kid one more time, the people in charge won't have to worry about an alien enemy, anymore.
Real soldiers also pray for war, because they don’t want to waste their years of training. It’s a situation... almost all soldier’s autobiographies explain this to some extent.
I'd love to see this exact conversation with these two men today. Same topic but now considering what the country has been through in the past 2 years.
weak men like them, are the reason we are here today too afraid of dealing with the real shit, when its at home it was about time then its past time now
Malcolm X once said that people who call for "revolution" wouldn't whisper the word if they truly understood, in the entirety, exactly what they were asking for...
@tlessmo Russian Revolution was not military, it became military. Read a bit my dude. And Antifa are not revolutionaries, they are a disorganised group of anti-fascists who exist in other countries(where they are legitimately violent and people are scared of them like in Greece), people like American antifa are always the people before revolutionaries.
@@Dan0TheMano the federal government would shut it down and enforce federal law. State guard could fight and other state militia groups, but they don't have the resources to fight the federal government. So I think it would get squashed quickly if any state tried that
“You have all the gear but you don’t practice with it”. And “if I have to get involved it’ll get pretty ugly pretty fast”. A person with common sense would react like this “I am not gonna show up at this guys door step, it will most likely not end in my favor”. A person that is affiliated with Antifa or radical BLM would react like this “Let’s go protest at this guys house and demand he give us all his stuff and destroy his property if he doesn’t”. How do you think the story ends in both scenarios?
B LMAO yeah man historically people have been attacked for way less than that, and they managed to still be good people. You being a conservative, you should understand inflated statistics and know that it is an extreme minority of people who get attacked for wearing MAGA hats, lets be real
I’m 53 years old and this country and world is at its worst ever in my whole entire life and if it keeps going the way it is there’s NOOO doubt that Civil War is coming it’s coming fast !!!
Same age, I agree entirely. As soon as the Conservatives and pro-Constitutionalists have been pushed too far, it's going to be over very very quickly and at a cost the American population cannot deal with.
I think it can turn into a maelstorm of reasons and not only the US has become mad. It's just that among the western ones, has it prob. the most but I'm affraid everyone will turn bananas. Fox and any News or media should have a warning letter for Your health and safety. People are exposed to the most advanced propagand in history and there's no direction to find sanity or truth.
F T no. There is no honor in modern war. Name me one war in the past 50 years that has been waged that has been about honor and not paying the pockets of the military industrial complex. Not Iraq Not Afghanistan and damn sure not Vietnam. War is fought and died by young men who don’t even know why they are there. But then again you are a joe Rogan fans you you probably drank the cool aid of “we are the best in the world, everything we do is right. Joes fans are some of the most ignorant on the planet.
@@jameswinchester5423 and F T i can kind of agree with both of you. Yes, with the weaponry we have now there isn't honor in modern combat. You can however still die with honor so long as you are fighting for is just.
@@jameswinchester5423 So if you go back and look at my comment what I said was "There is honor if those fighting die honorably". Soldiers don't start wars nor do they pick where to go, that's part of the sacrifice they make. A soldier doesn't get the luxury of choice he gets the privilege of service. The way he conducts himself in war is a reflection of the country as a whole, his family, and his morals. That is all I meant. I don't buy into American exceptionalism at all, you should try not to make blanket statements about groups of people based on nothing but your feels. You come off as ignorant.
"C" because he was never in a legitimate war. WWII was the last legitimate war US soldiers were involved in, Vietnam & Korea are debatable. All US wars since then were only to combat an enemy previously receiving US tax payer dollars in aid (CIA funding: Taliban/Osama bin Laden/Al-Qaeda(CIA Operation Cyclone), Iran(Iran-Contra Affair), Iraq(1980s CIA funding/aid to build chemical weapons)), or directly created by US foreign policy (ISI/ISIS=2003 US Invasion of Iraq/Operation Cyclone). Meanwhile on Sept 11, 2001, the US allowed the largest terrorist attack in world history--even worse, it was on US soil.
Nobody with an ounce of sanity should want to see a civil war. I grew up in an extremely violent background and the first thing I wanted to do was get away from it as soon as I could. Most people can't understand how traumatizing it is and it never completely leaves you.
I understand that but let me ask you this if they came for you are you going to make sure you defend yourself? What if they come for others? I'm not talking the government BTW I am talking about these idiots out there. Look at Portland today. I know someone who is chased down the street there because someone thought they saw him with the Proud Boys.
Looking at the USA from abroad. I think that Trump would be perfectly willing to see a civil war if it got him what he wanted. Particularly if it kept him out of prison.
I served in Iraq and one thing I took away from it that and will always be with me was seeing first hand what happens when a country and/or society collapse. Trust me, I don't care what political persuasion you are, what religion you are, you do not want to be in a country during a war.
It really sickens me , reading these comments where people are almost frothing at the mouth for the chance to murder their fellow Americans. Their neighbors and friends ...all over rather simple differences of opinion and philosophy.
It's not just lefty socialist types though, there were a scary amount of comments right before voting day from conservatives saying "If Hillary wins, we need to revolt" Because they were convinced she was cheating or Trump was going to lose because of that grab her by the pussy stuff or whatever. If Hilary had won it'd be a lot of the conservatives still crying for civil war now 100%. Both sides are full of people who are convinced the other side are demons(literally with some of these religious conspiracy nuts)
@@fieldy409 oh its a two way street for sure but the far left and far right don't have the ability to understand that, blinders are making them think they are right and they can't see things from the other point of view. You need to be able to see things from more than just your point of view.
@@hairtrigger8317 And the adversarial nature is ruining democracies across the world, everywhere its left vs right. Reality is all people and parties are a mixture of left and right depending on what issue you ask them about. Plus at the end of the day we agree on more things than we disagree on, all the stuff we don't argue on outweighs the key issues we do agree on. But everyone just blocks things that the other side put forth not because it isn't a good idea but just because its their idea. It's sad. And a civil war in America would leave America never as strong again, possibly broken into seperate states or shrunk as other countries did opportunistic landgrabs, and then China would be the number 1 superpower which is scary.
Thank you Joe Rogan and Andy Stumpf for your comments on this subject. In my entire life, I have never been as concerned about our country as I am today. I wish our history of the founding of our country and the horror of the wars our men and women engaged in over even the last 70 years was taught in high school history. It might bring a thread of sanity in this crazy social environment. I really appreciate your perspectives. Mr. Rogan, it is clear why you are outperforming so many of the cable channels. As you noted, a man that knows about violence will steer away from that path.
Gods honest truth.ive always fought thru saying nothing to it but to live thru it..but untill u do,peoe have no idea what it's all about at the moment to the first bullet wizzes. If I never had to fire a shot again ide die a happy man.but history tells us all,unless selfless men step forward n stand for freedom n what's rite.we will continue to sprial into the abiss of destruction.only the dead have seen the end of war............
The technology that our past generations hoped would change the world for the best has backfired and is wasted when we could use this information and communication to better everything. I’m not a hippy but I’m so sick and tired of most humans I come across. Everyone is so self obsessed with themselves and worried about being stuck in the rat race to make money and acquire new shit that we don’t need.
Social media only highlight problem already present in the human condition. Meditate, develop one’s mindful awareness, and apply that awareness into your life and you will have a better relationship with social media if you set that as an intention.
people who would rather die on their knees pleading than fighting have no courage and no beliefs. that said, you also shouldn't be hasty to get into a fight, it should be the last resort....but to say that you should never rise and fight is weak and devoid of belief and principle.
THAT is a great point. When reality isn't and facts aren't anymore, there is no avoiding the eventuality of war. It may not come today or tomorrow but it will be in my lifetime. I know that to be a fact. 100%
One of the truest quotes I wish everyone knew, so many war mongers it’s unbelievable but they have no experience of i so they want it, they want what will destroy them it’s incredible
There is no hunting like the hunting of man, and those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter. -Ernest Hemingway (Not in agreement with this quote btw)
Very intellectual, and philosophical discussion on current issues. I find it amazing, when people who have seen extreme violence, or been forced to engage in it, generally, despise it after their "time/duty" has passed. I was in LE for 29 years and have seen more bodies, and trauma than I can recall - yes I have tried. I also deplore violence, and agree 100% with this guest - people who haven't experienced continuous violence, don't understand what it does to the average person. Great interview Joe! You really stepped up the quality for others to follow!!!
The thing I appreciate about Joe, is his unique ability to see both sides ( even if it’s limited). Joe was ( up until recently I fear) in a good position to moderate and help two opposing ideologies see a bit of each other’s perspective.
You can’t reason with someone who is totally closed off to debate. Wise words to remember “Never try to explain yourself to someone who is committed to misunderstanding you”
@@hughmungus370 You shouldn’t read things into a persons comment that are blatantly false. Your perception of my comment is way off. I don’t believe in having my constitutional rights violated. My rights don’t end where another person’s fear begins. I’m anti mask, anti lockdown and I WILL Not get the vaccine. You are a prime example of my comment. Never assume. If you aren’t sure what I meant...just ask 🙄
Yes the Bible tells us that to argue with a fool'foolish person is an exercise in futility. Proverbs 26:4, Proverbs 29:9, Proverbs 18:2 , Proverbs 15:2, Proverbs 20:3 and Proverbs 18:6 . All taken from the ESV Bible
Remove yourself from the debate. They need to get it out of there system. They wont listen to reason. 2 sides bent on destruction will settle for nothing less. Division and control destroys the controling and the divisive.
But those who have experienced it knows that at times it is needed. We don’t welcome it but we damned sure fight it when left with no reasonable choice.
Exactly! It's best to ignore these people bc they are the ones living in mommies basement playing COD, trying to be keyboard warriors that have no lives, stirring the pot! People need to learn how to tune these fuckers out!
@@cstoddard408 Seriously? Let me provide you with THE answer: Left vs. Right. George Soros and Bill Gates have $$$BILLIONS invested in their social engineering experiment and Antifa to stoke the fires. Do you think the BLM movement is causing all of the destructive rioting? No! They're not! It's the antagonists (Antifa) who are instigating the violence...and they're just getting warmed up. Soros is "All In" for crippling America.
@@cstoddard408 right wing and left wing extremists. They WANT a civil war. Hopefully they'll obliterate each other only, so that the rest of us normal people can continue living our lives.
I am from Croatia. I have spent '91-'95 in war in my country in Special Unit for Recon and Diversion. I will tell you this: YOU DON'T WANT WAR IN YOUR COUNTRY. I hope it will never happened to you, but if it happens, believe me, you will all agree with my capslocked part if you do not agree now. When war is in your country, it is not happening just to you as a fighter, it is happening to everybody and this part of "war in your country" is harder than fight itself.
Pray for your good health man. That must have been a fucking nightmare. The abstraction of the internet has allowed people to just conflate things like violence and war with the media representation of violence and war. Goddamn, 90s Croatia, Serbia, Bosnia. You know more than anyone
Thank you, Sonya, and welcome to the Divided States of America, now ruled by a mafioso crime boss. You would have liked it in the late 60s and early 70s, but those days is gone and won't be coming back anytime soon. But we're glad you're here. I grew up in Pittsburgh, PA and knew a lot of Croatian families there, very warm and loving people...like Americans once were.
Thanks man, really appreciated. It was crazy nightmare, you are right. One day I was that stoner kid, another I was crazy fighter, literally, i was 19 when I volunteered to go and fight, day after I finished highschool. I saw shits ppl can not imagine, worst part it was mostly done by ppl which were friends just few months ago. I am retired because of PTSD, but I am doing well now. Thanks to wonderful wife mostly. And my dog. Yep, this part of world was always fucked up. 1st WW started here, during 2nd all sides went berserk and done all kind of shits, then in '90s again. And still is boiling in Bosnia. We are fuckin crazy or cursed.
@Rod Frantz I am watching what is happening there, and I am sorry for that. Also I know that sometimes there is no option but war. Shit, I was in that situation, of course I know. But keep that option as a last one. Domestic war fucks up many generations, living and the ones not born yet. It is not like you can go do tour or two and come back in safety. There is no safety for anyone for many years. Economics is broken, all is going to hell. And at the end, after all that shit you see that only result is that old "fat rich cats" are dead, but new ones are already even "fatter and richer".
@@sonjabrajkina3995 Again man, I only hope the best for you. Suffering what you suffered takes a great deal of mental fortitude. I'm glad you have support that you can depend on and don't have to face that source of conflict ever again.
When I was a young man and I got tired of minimum wage I went to school to learn how to weld and minimum wage was never again an issue. I took control of the problem and changed my own circumstances. What helped with that was the rich guy who owned the fabricating shop that hired me and paid me a decent wage to work for him. Revolution begins from within. Don't like your situation? Invest in yourself and change it.
What if you can't legally? I'm serious life is not fair for everyone I mean that sounds good but what about the rest of us ?The ones that are fed up with the whole gd thing life isn't fair I get it but that slow rage doesn't just go too sleep...never mind I sound unhinged.
@areuarealman7269 number one, what do you mean by 'legally'? If you got yourself jammed up with the law, then that's on you. Secondly, you're right. Life IS not fair, but you have more control over it than you might think. If you think you are a victim, then that's what you'll be. Make excuses why you can't, then you won't. Whatever happens to you, good or bad, is YOUR fault. Woody Allen once said, "90% of success is just showing up." A little self-discipline and prayer goes a long way.
@@chopperking007 No, a communist military dictatorship took over. He called together the heads of various clans to discuss their discontentment. He blew them up instead. He was ousted. Power vacuum yada yada
@@chopperking007 my friend, it's not religion that starts the war, it's people who twist the wording of the texts and force people into fighting for a false holy war. Islam strictly prohibits violence, it's in the texts and you can search then up yourself.
@@GrantfromEarth why the fuck would he vote for those socialists? Democrats are domestic enemies. They want to infringe upon our rights and force dependency on the govt.
No it didn’t. I understand the post is semi-humorous, but the reality is this has been building and taking incremental steps for years. The lift got bolder and bolder with the outright violence. A couple weeks ago, there was a literal battle in a park between the two sides using shields, batons and bear mace. This past weekend, a guy with a BLM tattoo literally murdered a man on the street in front of his friend because they are going to vote for two different people. It’s taking years to get here, but make no mistake… It’s HERE. Now that the shooting has started, it’s just a matter of time before more people in the crowd are armed on both sides and the number of casualties per incident goes up.
TheGeneral proof of what? The 2 things I listed are on video and on RU-vid. “It’s a matter of time” is an opinion that is neither provable nor disprovable... so....
This is a balanced view in regards to thought and motivation, Rogan and Strumpf bring a discussion that is sound and reasoned.Rogan gets viewers because he is balanced, Strumpf brings life experience being in the teams and his applications in those teams and what the outcomes were. Both very well spoken
@@rubengdful Well, it's not their fault. It's very hard to adjust to normal life once you come back from war. Their experiences on the battlefield were so intense that they became "addicted to war". Not addicted to the conflict of nations, but addicted to the harsh lifestyle they had back then.
How can you peacefully talk to someone who approves of people like Hillary Clinton, who are knowningly breaking the law time and time again, and nothing is being done about it? You can't. When they start making their own party members, pay for the laws they break, then maybe we can peacefully come together. But thats what needs to happen first.
@@IvanMatvijenko I hope you are wrong. The very thought of having to harm one more human being is more than my conscience wants to bear. Can I do it? yes. Will I do it? If there is no other alternative. Do I want to? No. Pray for peaceful resolutions, detest war, and live with a clean conscience. It makes life so much more bearable. trust me.
@@bravo2p366 The biggest harm to a human being is taking his freedom away, human without freedom is not a human anymore, its already murder... Also war is just a cycle, its how nature keeps things balanced. Its normal for this planet with the current lvl of intellect amongst humans... of course intelligent person is able to say that war bring no good, however usually still ends up to appear of benefit to both!
@@bravo2p366 Killing unborn babies is just as much of murder as any other, somehow its first resort not last. Would have to disagree with you every situation is different! Lets not forget that officially ww2 never ended it was a truth treaty for 7 years only that expired, however now its clear now who pro life and freedom and who is against life, I would say that we finally have entered bipolar world where enemies and friends coexist and live next to each other and see each other daily. At least for me its a warning bell telling me to move out of big cities closer to small towns. Killing people... I look at it a duty that need to be carried out when evil is out of control, much rather prefer to die defending my family and country then cancer or cardiovascular disease or accident... its what a man does... defends his family! Best way to avoid war is be always ready for it! It was this way, it is this way and it will always be this way!
@@IvanMatvijenko I live in the country, because I desire to live in peace. I keep my powder dry, and my skills honed. Not because I am afraid, but because I refuse to be a victim, and because I wish to live free. I am 60 years old and lived enough for two lifetimes. I am old and wise enough to know what's worth getting riled up about, and what's not. I don't allow myself to be drawn into other men's passions or paranoia. I know the truth, and am therefore free. The truth of the matter is everyone is so quick to justify their actions whether they are correct or not. Abortion is wrong and there is no excuse for it, those responsible wil stand in judgement for it. But, neither you or I or anyone else have the right, other than to morally protest. Violence is not justified or we would be no better than BLM or Antifa. No sir, if you want violence, and that is your ilk then you and I will never agree. I swore an oath to defend the constitution 41 years ago, and I do it every day against gangsters thugs and socialists. Not with buck and ball but with words, in hopes that the former wil never be necessary.
John Dough hahaha just jumping to the opportunity to shit on someone doing something that makes them happy. I think RU-vid is one of the better social media’s
One of these days, the people gonna be to tired to the point where you can’t do anything about it anymore, all that this country has done before our time and now all of that gonna spill over one day and we gonna have to pay for it except we won’t be cause those who were responsible will either way
I agree with you, social media serves absolutely no positive purpose at all. This is my first day back from a 2 month layoff of RU-vid and i do feel much better. I've been on today now for a half hour. I'm going to do my best to get off as soon as i end this comment.
Colton Crain Hidden Trophy Unlocked: Florida crackhead causes mass shootings, black people blasting there brains out, fucked up skool systems! Wat a fucking joke
Grew up around fighters, mostly amateur boxers. And one thing you notice is that the guys who can actually fight almost NEVER want any kind of drama. There's nothing to prove for them because it's already been proven to themselves...and maybe a few poor bastards along the way. Fact.
"You people speak so lightly of war; you don't know what you're talking about. This country will be drenched in blood, and God only knows how it will end." - William Tecumseh Sherman
I am an enemy of every Democrat in this country for the illegal things they've done to destroy the Constitution. Nope. I'm done trying to find common ground with purely evil people. They're not Americans.
22yrs as a bouncer, many thousands of fights, not once did I ever have to fight a trained fighter. Not one time. It's always people unfamiliar with violence who want to go there.
The smart people will join whatever side men like Jocko and Andy come "off the bench" for... owww shit Brain power and Veterans sooo... a revolution would get you to Starship Troopers... go for it antifa ahhahah Break the cycle.
God made dinosaurs God killed dinosaurs God made man Man killed God Man makes dinosaurs Dinosaur eats Nancy Pelosi, jerks his neck as if someone shot him, spits her out and screams, "fuck me...what is that? Pissyfish?"
Damm i have been saying for some time now is a cycle everytime this kind of political ideologies and social separations comes around is a cycle but is moving faster than ever before because social media and the media are pushing people feelings for personal gain.
the youtube comments are the only thing I tend to read, but they piss me off enough. I should probably get off shitstagram though. That's even *more* infuriating.
@@kalebvera1841 right and now they're all scared (rightfully so) as If weren't trying to warm people for years but all we got is "you nut" "tin foil hat" ect ..
I've told people for YEARS the only ones who want to get into fights are those that have never been in one (boxing, etc. aside). Even if you "win," you're going to be completely fucked up and looking over your shoulder for a long, long time.
Okay? The left is already murdering and weaponizing institutions to imprison their political opponents. It's their fault. I am not going to be a victim to yet another far left genocide.
I agree that is effectively true; however, the media machines are trying to cull individuals off to the extreme edges (either right or left) whenever they can.
@@dakotas76 Majority control the army because we fund it. The moderates on both sides are the ones who pay the taxes. Not poverty level Evangelicals living in rural broke states. Not inner city gang bangers or woke liberal kids. And moderates would have no problem letting the army or police go wild on a group that steps out of line.
@Todd Keno have you not been following the past 4 years buddy? The “right” does ONE thing and you all wig out 🙄🥴 to bad it wasn’t even republicans it was Antifa and BLM supporters and it was planned months ahead of time
@Todd Keno where was your outrage when 3+ BILLION dollars in damage was done in cities all across the country? Peoples businesses burned down? Car lots burned down? Homes destroyed....etc etc....where you been bud? That’s literally terrorism at its finest....700 cops injured and several dead. Several innocent by standers dead, the list goes on....grow up dude...if you can’t see the TRUE problem here, Yank your eye balls out of your head because apparently they don’t connect to your little tiny pea brain!
@Todd Keno have you seen the news? The Democratic Party TELLING people to attack and arm them selfs and incite violence? Have you had your head in the sand dude? Or are you just completely ignorant?
I'm an old Vietnam Vet and understand your frustration, I have been frustrated for over 50 years. If we were to have a civil war, our enemies would strike us then for sure. Actually, I expect it anytime now.
Fleece Johnson not even, off the top of my head didn’t he declare war 2 out of the 7 wars he was in? Everyone else was warmongering but just got hard dicked
In my 47 years of life I've learned if you have ever been in a real fight you will never be in a hurry to do it again,the same goes for shooting someone it's not pleasant even when it's necessary,all these people calling for violence don't be in a hurry to die because that's what will happen when you leave the safety of your basement
People have no idea what’s coming. I’ve worked in the medical field for 30 years- I’ve learned to compartmentalize to get the job done. The lockdown proves how bat shit crazy people went - just wait till the shooting starts.
@@TvboxFinnan Don't muddy the waters with these hate-filled lies. YOu are causing undue chaos. Detach from antisocial petty partisan politics or you will lose your soul.
@@TvboxFinnan that 17 year old is a hero and didnt go there to kill it was self defense he went there to protect peoples property. They come on my property to burn it down and they will die I dont give a shit what color their skin is. I'll even let them choose the gun they will be shot with.
Violence is eventually going to happen on both sides. You cant expect to remain unharmed when you're looting, killing people and destroying property. A revolution based on personal gain will bring nothing but problems. However, you would be a fool not to expect violence when you maintain a system built on oppression, subtle segregation and foul play, you continue to attack the livelihood of a group of people for decades and it's only a matter of time until they get fed up and resort to the natural path of violence.
I am personal friends with a former Heavy Weight Champ. He said to me " Why would I lose everything I worked for to hit someone that means nothing to me"
I read something by Frank Shamrock saying that he avoided street fights. Something about the risk of being stabbed or shot. He said a street fight was much more dangerous than a MMA fight. @@DP-gb8qu
I remember being a sophomore in hs and i was leaving school one day, when a bulky man approached me saying i looked some guy that jumped him in the summer time. I had to speak him out of it, and prove It wasn’t me. Eventually we became friends because he felt bad for the accusation.. i can tell he never forgot about getting beat up tho. He said he got buff just to make sure if he saw those guys again, he’d destroy them. It really does stick with you
I have two children. It's no longer about me, my future, my rights, my freedom...It's about theirs. If trouble comes, let it come in my time, so they can live in peace.
Damn straight, mate. Glad my wife and I don't have kids, I am recovering from severe injuries sustained in combat, she struggles with social anxiety disorder and both of us are working on our own training, our own ability to survive and our own financial security. No point in bringing kids into the world when we are so unsure of our own future to begin with, those with kids? I know they bring much joy and meaning, but I worry so much for all of you parents.
Andy speaks the honest and brutal truth about coming off the bench to protect this beautiful nation! I’m not left or right just your average Vet that can party on and off the battlefield! Some people think they have it figured out until confronted with reality! I pray daily for peace and understanding of our great nation! Hats off to Andy and Joe on this one!
I hear a lot of military guys talk about violence involving guns/shootouts/gunfights as if it only exists in military context and therefore they’re subject matter experts on the topic. There’s a great chance many non-vets have experienced gun violence in this country. Many Americans are involved in defensive use of their weapons daily as well. I’m as average as they come and I’ve been involved in a gun crime against me..I’ve also drawn my weapon in self defense.
The problem is when the far sides of the spectrum: ▪︎Start whittling away our Rights under the Constitution. ▪︎Tell Constitutionally protected Americans how to live their lives. Stop doing those 2 things and we're on our way to a happier society. The End.
wowalinbie I think they switched from the right to the left so they could get everyone to trust the left And then when everyone is on the left they switch to control from the left like a trap
This is sad, I see a reasonable comment with valid points about the extremes of the right and left and when I see the replies all I see is the right attacking the left. How did people stop becoming self-aware?
Uncle Joe hit the nail on the head. I'm a 2 time combat vet loser. I have been offered good paying contracts to go back. I refuse every time. I want nothing to do with war, ever again. I am home and I love it here. That being said, I love my country. If certain groups want a war, I know a few people that will bring hell to their front door to protect their home and family. I implore you to not bring it to that point.
Great comment! I agree. And how are we going to have a Civil War? As soon as we go to arms and serious violence happens the left wing nut jobs will back down. My question is... "Do we let them off the hook or summarily execute prisoners when they just quit and go back to hiding in their basements... I believe we could end all argument by unplugging the nation for a while.... take down the grid... take out the social internet sites... shut down electronic communication.
@@dickpark9807 I’d personally say the closest thing we had to a second civil war was the US riots vs US police. Not many of the states would accept Trump’s offer for the Guard or ask for it. Police had to actively find people rioting and damaging property. Where the cops would be, the rioters would be blocks away. Anyone they did catch would be released hours or days later. We really do need to unplug, shut down social media and just go outside or something for a few months. I really think the SJW bs started as a joke that got out of hand and became a real thing. The issue is that a lot of Americans probably wouldn’t get into the military due to all these new mental health things and being overweight. I tried enlisting but I can’t because of a medical condition and it’s not a BS excuse.
The irrational nature of political extremes I'm afraid will prevent what your looking for, me as well, the right has skeletons but the 20th century should show how dangerous left wing extremism truly is, 150 million people were murdered because of left wing extremism in the 20th century. They are by nature irrational, believe me you can't ever get through to them when they have their minds made up for them. I would hope violence is not the answer, but I highly doubt it. Cancer cannot be reasoned with, no matter what polar extreme one comes from. Btw, don't call yourself a combat loser, you are here dude. Thanks
Mr. Rogan is often 75-88% accurate. Rarely is he 89-95% accurate. But this is the 1st time ive heard him be 100% spot on. People remember the fights that they are in. One of my jokes is that, "Im still in the middle of a fight that a kid started with me in 1989. I just havent seen him in a while." My grandson is at the age where boys take a peek in their drawers, think they see a set of nuts growing, decide to start being assholes towards each other, and wanting to throw hands over it. For the last 11 years, ive told this kid the same thing. 1. Dont list fighting as "plan A". 2. Dont start it. 3. Report all threats up the chain of command, all the way to the top. 4. If nothing is being done to end the threat, then you fight. 5. Dont engage unless its 1 on 1. 6. Dont wait to be hit. Land the 1st punch, the last punch, and ; ideally ; ll the punches in between. 7. Invest yourself 100% in the idea that you are not going to be forced to fight this kid again (because once you are done, hes not coming back for more thrashing) 8. Dont lose control. Stay focused. But go honey badger on this dude. 9. Keep an eye out for weapons, his clique, and his family. If anything like those 3 things gets involved, run away. Push "pause" until you see him by himself and/or unarmed. 10. Accept responsibility for your actions. School will toss you out for a few days. But if you hold up your end of the deal (report it, dont start it, 1 on 1, etc), get in the truck. Paps taking you for ice cream. Oh, yeah. 2 more thing. 11. Dont stop. The fight isnt over until you say it is. 12. Dont lose.
Everyone is a perfect parent until they become one. Everyone can take a punch like Rocky Balboa until they take one. Everyone can fight like Bruce Lee until they are in one. Everyone is a legend in their own minds. But reality is a merciless instructor and pain a flawless teacher. Peace only happens when the people who have learned how to get completely over themselves vastly outnumber the fools who think their personal fantasies are reality.
@ PappMurf’s Porch, all that is needed for evil to flourish is for good men to say nothing. Remember the words of Martin Bonhoeffer(?spelling) First they came for the Communist, and I said nothing because I was not a communist. Then that came for Jews, and I said nothing because I was not a Jew. Then they came for the Catholics, and I was not catholic so I said nothing. Then they can for the Christians, but no one said anything for me, because no one else to say anything for me.
@ PappaMurf’s Porch, 1 good sincere punch to the face is worth 5 years of karate training. Pain is a good teacher, and experience is usually painful. I have been in enough fights growing up, and dicey situations because of my job. Every situation is different, but if you prepare yourself for any situation you can think of, the better off you will be. I understand the retired SEALS point of view. I hope he is right, but the wild card comes from extremist on every side, the people who just want to watch the world burn, for no other reason than they have chosen to act in an evil manner. Here is the thing though, If you want to take the time to figure out why someone acts the way they do, please feel free. Unfortunately I don’t always have the luxury to figure out the trigger for the motives that someone has. Sometimes, my immediate response has to be to neutralize the threat, before they can harm me, or themselves. You have to be aware of the situation and your surroundings, and know to the best of your knowledge who you are dealing with. I am a CCP holder, with firearms training, and one thing I always tell someone, as a firearm owner, you need to be honest with yourself, and know, really know, that you have the possibility to end the life of someone’s brother, sister, mother, father, uncle, cousin, friend. But they are also trying to take you away from your spouse, your children, your Mother, your Father, your Uncles, Aunts, your cousins, your friends. And you need to know if you are ready for that burden, before you ever carry a weapon.
I was asked to go into the police for questioning after being assaulted outside a bar. I never called them, I never asked anyone who blindsided me, and I was still all messed up from how bad the hit was (blindsided, full swing into my orbital). The guy was so scared of retribution they had their girlfriend file a report on me. At that point the police took my information and threatened me. A lawyer wouldn’t take my case because there was no camera footage of what happened and the police wouldn’t do an investigation without a court order. That man has no idea how lucky he is I’m not the sort of person to demand retribution above all else. I can let it pass. Hope he’s still scared I might come back.
I tend to the right not because I want to go back to some idealized past. But, rather I want to move forward in a far different way than the left is presenting as an option.
