One teeny tiny detail that I personally found as an awesome detail, was how surprised and in disbelief caitlyn was when she found out vi didn't have parents. Kind of shows the one of the many differences in the society.
The only issue I have with that is I believe canon he is supposed to build Blitzcrank first and have him stolen before he converts to machine supremacy.
@@balevoid6399 yeah, i feel like there is a lot of missing pieces of Viktor story. this could be another retccon and i m a bit scared of it, as there are implications that the hextech core will be seed of Void later ( i really hope not)
@@balevoid6399 especially since in the show he goes to Singed to get help for his disease ( none of this is canon) leading my boi viktor to the stereotypical "russian crazy bad scientist" when in the lore, his only goal is to save people lives as he can ( the reason he created blitz after the big explosion in Zaun)
@@jessiehell5214 I think he went back to singed because singed kept his mutant axolotl alive. Axolotls are known to have crazy regeneration abilities so he is probably going to use its gene to prolong his life or at least dampen the severity of his disease. I think viktor realizes this too because when he sees the tube with the mutant still alive he says something like “I understand now.” I don’t think he is working with singed because he wants to it’s out of necessity because he knows he kept this gene alive
Tbh while I felt bad seeing Viktor dying, but it made me laugh with how they mixed up his scene when he passed out with Jayce banging that council member during that time.
I had NOTHING to do with Viktor and i didnt know his lore, i was even surprised when he appeared as "Chemtech" in TFT. I felt like he was a relatively boring side Character in Act 1, but now i feel so hard with him. He literally works for his life while Jayce gets "consumed" by the politics. Really love his character and how he fights his way through the pain.
Personally I don't really mind the lore being retconned for this kind of reason. Retconning the lore of a character just because a new one comes out is one thing, but doing so to make an entire series better is another thing entirely. Some characters have lore way older than others, and to tell the best story possible, adjusting the lore in some places, especially if it all connects the characters together, is great. It helps tie out loose ends, and even shape some characters that were undevelopped (Twitch (maybe), Warwick, Singed). If it takes a little retconning to add so much dept to this many characters, I don't mind at all, I actually quite like it! We're talking about a retcon that has been 6 years in the making after all.
I agree with this sentiment. Some people are a tad bit overzealous about retconning, but if it makes for better characters and a better story, I'm all for it. If Jayce was the same egomaniac here as he used to be, then I don't think any of his arcs would have worked. With lore this old, changes are gonna happen
Totally. I get why people don't like retconning but with an in-game universe this old with new characters being added all the time I think its unavoidable as new (sometimes better) writers are hired and the story adjusts. Plus, there's precedent. People have been retconning since humanity started telling stories
@@Sulq because people got invested in these versions. Necrit has a career explaining this stuff, I imagine it matters to him. I'm not saying I don't understand people being upset about retcons, just that I don't agree in this particular instance
So many hints pointing to owl man being Ekko. The logo on his clothes, the fact Ekko wasn't present at all, the red scarf, him recognizing Jinx' art, ordering them to take Vi alive, the hoverboards that are kinda like the hoverboard he made in one of the legends of runeterra trailers, the clock in the first scene with him with 5 minutes foreshadowing his relationship with time. So many subtle things, but they add up.
Nah I dont think its him, all his voiceline in LoR or Lol all pointing towards him having alot emotional attachments to Jinx,even had a crush on her. So when the owl man see jinx on the airship the reaction would have been different if it was ekko
I agree, regardless of what it meant, his first line being time-related is huge. Another big clue imo is the fact that all his little sidekicks we see in the last scene are young kids that Ekko probably picked up because they were like him. It also just makes sense that little Ekko would go into hiding after the events that happened in Act 1 being left on his own without Benzo or any of his friends. I believe it and I love it.
DAMN THAT MAKES SENSE. Because like idk anything about LoL and that I watched arcane for fun and ever since I watched the 1st act I have been digging in the lore of the characters in this show, and when I saw Ekko and combine it with the owl man it kinda makes alotta sense now
I mean... I can pretty much guarantee that he is Ecco. Remember how did he observe the event in Benzo's pawn shop at the first act - through the same mask.
I think Jinx wasn’t baiting Vi, she was trying to prove Vi wasn’t back,Vi was dead and to prove once again Vi lied to her by saying “light this and I’ll find you” that’s why Jinx was shocked when Vi actually showed up, I thought it was really moving, Jinx’s not insane just damaged by everything that has happened, love her character.
unlike the others vi: stabbed by mechanical arm Vickor: turning into himself in game jinx: ptsd and trauma silko: beating the living sht out of a henchman
@@lionelmarcussolaris2858 he should've showed the hextech gemstone in the grand reveal and he should have taken all the credit himself. All the praise is directly being fed into Jayce and jayce should naturally be getting a big head from the attention. Viktor's unwillingness to show himself and enjoy things with Jayce should make Jayce angry and show himself in a more childish egotistical light but not the humble good boy he's being made.
@@raultamjid9725 People usually conflate their projections for a character not being validated with the character being badly written. The point of Jayce is that he's being shoved around by powerful egos and he's struggling to find his footing. Even when he steps up against Heimer in the council, this is Medarda's influence more than his own ambitions. Just because Jayce isn;t who you wanted that doesn't mean he doesn;t have depth
@@ayami123 Heimer has been leading Piltover for 200 years but no actual progress has been made because he's strict. I'm sure everyone in the council wants him out but they can't because he's literally one of the founders of the city. I agree with Jayce for this one. That's no big deal for heimer tho, he still goes to the academy from time to time and later on je actually made his own hextech inventions.
I mean Jayce was in the right. Heimerdinger is inconsiderate about human's lifespan Piltover and Zaun is slowly becoming chaos while Heimer says "We should just do nothing" Cause Heimer thinks Piltover currently is already good enough for the next centuries.
I'm not too well versed in Jayce's universe lore, but I feel like they're setting him up to get betrayed. He's falling in love with a person who's using him. In most scenarios the trope is to turn back to your work and forget about people. Depending on the timeline in the universe lore, he could be an egotistical ahole, we're just seeing the things that turned him into one. Only a speculation though, great video!
I second that. The romance with Mel is, figuratively, being seduced by power and dragged into politics - away from his original goals and also further from Viktor.
@@lemiczny254 It's strange because it feels like they are going the path where Viktor because bad but in the lore Jayce betrays Viktor after another professor proclaimed to be Blitzcranks creator when Viktor created Blitzcrank. But it seems Arcane is going to rewrite Viktor a bit to show his more fanatical side after this hexcore saves his life and thus prompting him to start his glorious evolution. Makes more sense I suppose than friend betrayed me, so I turned myself into a robot.
I’m thinking that Jayce is going to develop into the more self centered “all about my work” egotist we expect. I think it’s going to take him essentially being betrayed by Victor and/or realizing the counsel is straight up BS and helping people isn’t really worth it.
I imagine that him and Mel getting blasted by Jinx would make him hate Zaun with a passion(which is kinda understandable since that attack happened right when the Council ratified his proposal to grant independence to Zaun). His animosity against Zaun is probably what's gonna drive Viktor away(remember how Viktor chose not to tell Jayce about Singe when they were on the bridge?).
Viktor was 100% my favorite part of this act. A crippled man, beaten down into the shadow of his peers ever since he was born, finds a few sparks of hope. Once, when Heimerdinger found him. Once, when he discovered how to stabilize the hextech crystals with Jayce. And once, as he literally bleeds out from the shit hand life dealt him, when he stumbles upon how to harness the hex core. Desperate to save not only himself, but hundreds or thousands of others in awful situations like his, he turns to less and less moral means of experimentation, his life growing shorter by the minute, until eventually resorting to returning to his old mentor who he abandoned in fear. That is SUCH a good setup for a morally ambiguous character, one who could either turn out to be a gold-hearted hero or, more likely at this point, a highly sympathetic villain, one who we almost want to see win because we know what his cause is and why he’s doing the presumably horrible things he will do. I’m so excited to see where they take him in act three!
I literally said to myself “Daaaaamnn… Heimer got did greasy”, but in all honesty, he was too afraid of taking that risk, reasonably so, but it he wouldn’t let his prodigies shine. He had something coming.
"The politics around Jayce are more interesting than Jayce himself." That's because he is just a puppet for Mel. She is the true interesting character in the Piltovan politics storyline.
@@marianmiko8145 she got alot for part 2 though like therr is hardly a scene that jayce is there that she isn't also the sex scene is I'm just because it shows that mel has full control over him
@@marianmiko8145 defensive ? Lol we are just talking about a show I just have a different opinion about an character than you . But yeah Jayce is book smart not very smart with people that's why he so easily manipulated by mel
@@marianmiko8145 I don't like her as a person I just think she a good character though also with jinx I personally like her character alot but that's just me
@@marianmiko8145 everything jayce does is because she put it in his head that he should do it. and now that they have been romantically involved, he seems bent on impressing her and doing what he thinks she wants. she just installed a puppet on the council by way of jayce. he will end up either making a huge mistake (might already have) or having everyone hate him, and she will get everything she wants without blame. Really well designed character. She is a side character, so obviously less screen time than Jayce or Jinx or Vi, but when she is on screen, she makes a huge impact.
Necrit talking about other characters: "Eh, this is not Jayce's real personality" Necrit talking about Caitlyn and Vi: "THEY ARE PERFECT, THE REAL STARS OF ARCANE"
I hope after Arcane, Riot will invest in more animated series. Just imagine what Demacia, Ionia, Freljord, Noxus and Shurima could benefit from something like this.
I just think silco and jinx relationship is written so well silco treat jinx WAY better than anyone else and treats her like a daughter and the detail of every time he’s in the office jinx is always above his head and no one knows she is there but him and it shows how close they are because she was able to put a trap in the office that wasn’t noticeable
I think the retcons are actually improving the story. Retconning is worth it if you get to tell a better story for it. Jayce is a lot more likable because of him being gullible and naive than he is in any of the games. He still has time to become the asshole Jayce in the present but I mean... I like this one better tbh. Also, there are big themes of betrayal going on all around the series with multiple characters so of course, Jayce is gonna get totally owned by Mel and I'm here for it. Let's see how that changes our baby boi.
We should also remember Ekkos relationship with masks in the shop. He would spy through them without being found. I agree that Ekko is the leader of the Fireflies
Or at least one of them. Maybe leader dies or something and ekko uses his stopwatch ect as a catalyst for his future (maybe as the new leader?) as I think he could be the firefly with the bat ears. Someone else here pointed out that he has an hourglass visible on his person in one of the shots.
Also, during the attack on the ship he pulled out some kind of stopwatch and I immediately thought "is he going to warp back in time to change everything?"
The part with imagine dragons i don't think is cannon at all. They are just there for the collab with riot for all the work with riot and music they produce along the way.
Jinx wasn't "baiting" Vi at all, she just heard about Vi being alive and remembered about the flare she got from Vi, so she went out and used the flare hoping Vi would show up to her once again(even tho it was unlikely because they made this promise so long ago).
The poor girl was traumatised into insanity. I feel for her. And she is meant to get worse too, so I wonder how that happens. In League, her eyes are pure glowing pink, so I wonder if she takes the shimmer?
A couple hints that the hoverboard guy is ekko: -he was holding a pocketwatch when we first saw him, tying into ekko’s time theme -the red scarf he wears is the same one ekko is wearing in game
you know, I haven't considered that at all. It ties into some of his follower's cards in LOR, although I am very interested to see if this is really going to be Fae, or some other completely new character. It really does make sense though considering that he hasn't shown up after the timeskip yet, but i guess we'll need to wait and see.
Jinx absolutely did NOT “bait” out Vi. She lit the flare for some confirmation of her suspicions Vi was really alive. Love your insight. Very good video.
man viktor is such a poor little boy, i really feel for him, he's almost like a role-model for me. seriously, fuck these volunerable bodies, embrace the glorious evolution.
Also, Vi left Cait with a guy and said be with whoever you like, and later we see Cait with a woman, not a man. That was one hint at something you didn't mention.
Necrit I found one. You can see the exact mask of hover board guy in benzo's shop. So it is possible that ekko took it. And in ekko splash art in runterra, all his allies were using hover boards and their hairstyles are vibrant green, pink like that. So, I think there is 80 chance that it might be ekko😳
Just found Another "probable" hint that Ekko might has something related to The Fireflies,, ACT I, episode 2 after 10 minutes when Ekko helped the team escape from the arcade, they used A Pipe, kinda remembered the intro to fireflies in Act 2 at beginning and at the Vi-Meet-JInx scene :sweatsmile;
It does seem likely to be Ekko, but I just gotta say that the mask he wears isn't all that similar to the mask in Benzo's shop. Unless people are talking about a different mask than the one Ekko looked through to spy on Vander and Grayson
I... I thought it was obvious that the leader of the Fireflies was Ekko. Like the very second I first saw him I just assumed 100% that it was Ekko without any doubt.
This is what “I’m gonna change things from the inside” gets you Anyone who truly thinks they’re gonna end corruption will only make themselves a target
His problem is that he wants to change things here and now. Something about fantasy races was that they all feared humans, because humans live the shortest so they work and are determined, the most and can accomplish much in short periods of time. Unfortunately for this case, Jayce and Viktor cannot just change things immediately
@@bluefiremarkii Jayce is no longer interested in changing the corruption at the very top tho, in fact he USED the corruption to eliminate his political opponent (Donger) I cant say I'm surprise tho, he did most of his thing for glory and because he thought HE was special so once you gave him unchecked power obviously he became corrupt. He is a trash human being; but an amazing character.
I like how almost every scene in this show is a setup to future plot. For example, Vi giving Powder the flare in act 1 and she used it in act 2 - leading to their reunion; or Viktor’s remarks on how Jayce signing every page is “a bit egotistical”, to Jayce slowly becoming a egotistical, corrupted politician. This show has so many goddamn Chekhov’s guns that it turned into Chekhov’s armoury at this point.
@@wackjack5667 the choice to participate in the corruption is a choice that says he believes he can remain above it. It's incredibly egotistical. He believes he's just better than the others, that he alone can still maintain his honor and valor while greasing the wheels of the system to further his own ends. "I alone can solve your problems." The height of egotism.
@@SeanBoyce-gp good point, I believe the aristocrats are rubbing of on him more than he could anticipate I mean he suddenly got promoted into the council he's got to adjust to its politics and also the fact that everyone is depending on him for security
I'm OK with retconning as League was never meant to be made into a series. They've been making great changes while keeping the characters true to their spirit.
I refuse to strictly label jinx at being insane as they have now made it so much deeper than that incorporating abandonment issues and (to some extent exaggerated) but a real look into some PTSD after a very traumatic incident and fostered in a bad way to encourage her to act on it through extreme violence.
yes, this. I know nothing of LoL and her character; (I came here to learn more) but I love the series, and that was what we had talked about after watching so far, she's broken, but she's not "insane". She had been broken by events, but that doesn't make her less than, that just means she needs someone to help her find her way again.
I actually kind of like Jayce’s arc: he starts off as an ambitious (if naïve) inventor. Then, he turns into a sort of celebrity, which is clearly outside of his comfort zone. However, he’s supported by the manipulative Mel, and the ambition starts going to his head. At this point, though, he’s still trying to hold onto his morals; he’s not ignorant to where he could end up as a person, especially after socializing with the aristocracy so much. Even so, he finds himself put to the test by one of the very few people who believed in him. Mel forces him to confront the corrupt individuals he’s been inhibiting and rewards him for doing what he thinks will get her approval. This is when cold reality hits him as he finds out about Viktor’s condition. While he’s been playing politics, Viktor has spent every waking moment working, not just for the sake of science or profit, but to save his own life. Wracked by guilt, Jayce hardens into something that can’t be molded by Mel or pushed around by the aristocracy. Not even Heimerdinger can stand in his way as he adopts a dark mirror of his original philosophy: nothing can stand in the way of progress. As a side note, I really like what happens with Mel here. After hearing about Viktor, we see that she feels bad about her actions for the first time, and more so as Jayce falls from grace. She’s finally grounded herself and we see her for what she truly is: a hard worker starved for validation. In other words, she’s just like Jayce. Going back to him, I really think the conflict with Piltover and Zaun as well as Viktor’s transformation will leave him exactly the kind of jaded, egotistical jerk that we see in the original lore.
This. I don't know why everyone said Jayce in arc 2 is a bad character. They wrote him as a guy who from nothing get everything, and struggle to fit his new shoes. He still confused and try to find his way.
You couldn't of said it any better, exactly what I was thinking after watching act 2. If anything, story line of act 2 establishes a greater depths in Jayce's character. By making Jayce apprehensible by the audience in a sense. To which later builds up to the egotistical individual as he is portrayed within the original lore.
Pretty much how I see it. These events will set Jayce and Victor on their respective paths to be like they are in their bios and stories. Which may play out in another series.
I feel like character's lore getting retconned is a good thing if it leads to them having a more substantial role in the world. Jayce's previous lore was good, but being a recluse scientist has a lot of overlaps with other characters and limits him to interacting with other characters individually rather than as a whole. Also, nothing prevents Singed from having been a piltovan scientist before the events of act 1. It's just not one of the (many) plot-lines Arcane has decided to juggle.
About the Singed thing, like Act I already showed us how Heimerdinger immediately shuts down studies on things that is potentially dangerous. One look at Singed's work and you can say the academy will say nope to that.
Wholeheartedly agree. If they changed my favourite character's entire story, just so he could suckle on the teets of a more profitable one I would be mad. That being said, I feel like what they are doing here is a lot more than that. Of course we won't really know that until the end of Act 3, but to me, most of the changes so far still feel like they should've been like that in the beninging as my African politicians would say
Jayce was amazing in act 2 imo. You can really see the gears in his head working as he is torn between Mel and Viktor or protecting piltover and playing politics and helping the undercity people with Hextech. I feel like the realyzation of the reality of Zaun is gonna make him devolp his vigilante complex and i cant wait for act 3 As far as Singed is concerned, the setup for him is almost non existent but thats kinda by design imo. His ambitions were sorta being kept a secret but im sure theyll give a massive spotlight in act 3
Imagine at the end of Act III: Mel is drinking a bottle of red wine, she celebrates her success using Jayce as a pawn. As she shakes her cup and the liquid goes one side to another, a figure can be seen in her reflection, one of a pale woman with what it seems like a black bob haircut and a crown. All as planned. She is everyone, after all...
I wouldn't be surprised if Noxus was the next series. It almost feels like they left the way Swain conquered the demon, got a new hand, and took over Noxus vague on purpose just to do that scene in a TV show.
people at Riot HQ making the trailers for arcane: "Hey, you know Necrit?" "the lore guy that cracks every single video we make?" "yeah" "what about him?" *snorts cocaine and fires up the pc* "let's f*ck his shit up"
A detail I noticed was at the scene when they were at the play, everyone was there to further their own agenda, all the other senators were talking to each other and gaining connections and influence and even jayce eventually goes around making deals with all the senators while heimerdinger was the ONLY one on the front row seat fully immersed in the play happening, further showing how he's beyond all the politics around the city and eventually the reason why he's kicked out of his own council.
It's also really good to notice that Heimer is the only one who enjoys the present moment in that scene. There is no worry on his face, nor fear of his council members or others in the moment. He is genuinely enjoying the peaceful "progress" of his work into the city, and it's heartbreaking.
@@bladekokiri And everyone says he still on the past. Besides the fact that he is imortal, rly make he forget that People will die sooner tham him, and progress need to happen. He still the only one on the present. Its ironic, thd founder of the city that only sees the future, lives in present and is acused to be in The past.
I will point out. Its 8 members and you only got to see 6 votes and Jayce said it had to be 7/7 votes to retire him. I didn't look after who didn't vote but the Android dude might be on dongers side.
@@EligorArgentum even better: the entire Jayce/Viktor vs Heimer is about how humans don't live long enough to wait for progress, and later is about making Viktor life longer, but why? So he can spend even more of his time locked in a room, doing more "progress" for a future? The only thing we are certain of, is that we are going to die in the future, and yet Jayce and Viktor spend all their time looking for the future and how they can make the future better, without caring or realizing that the present is just as important. Damn, it took a building and six deaths so Jayce could start to understand that people could use his technology to do something bad
To defend Singed : He is not a main character, nor a secondary character in the series. So far he is only an important background character, so the story doesn't really have to explain his character for now.
@@thighguy4534 i think (and hope) that if we ever get a second season, it'll follow the noxus vs ionia war. We're getting so much noxus foreshadowing, plus there's a lot to show (Darius and Draven's childhood, Riven rebelling, Singed's chemical weapons destroying Yi's village, Swain going from almost fodder guy to mastermind badass, etc..), a man can dream
Loved this act! Jinx, Cait, and Viktor were showstoppers for me this time around. Cait's resourcefulness and adaptability, Viktor's plight and hints to GLORIOUS EVOLUTION, and pretty much everything surrounding Jinx - aesthetics (those transitions and neon lights!), her voice acting, and the fact that she is just one bad moment from going full unhinged mode is stellar. Looking forward to seeing how they end this show. Will it be a definitive conclusion to the Vi and Jinx story or will it end with a cliffhanger, either leading to a continuation of these two's story arc or a completely new character/region.
20:40 they could be setting him up to be the “all about work” type of character by having him realize how “useless” the Council is and there politics. Making him turn into his work as the only reliable source of change that he can Bring into the world.
"Sisters...Can't live with them, can't stuff them back in the old baby maker" Love Jinx's personality. I was a little scared that they would keep her sane until the finale where she would snap from chemicals or something, so glad that they decided to show her full breakdown. She's just a very fun character to watch.
What I like is how they didn't make it so she just snaps and goes crazy at one moment. Rather they show you the results of her dealing with Vi "abandoning" her (and possibly a severe combination of schizophrenia, adhd, ptsd etc.). She also remains true to the Jinx we knew, while being depicted in a more "realistic" way. Instead of being just "haha silly crazy girl" she is shown to be very smart, but acts like the neglected child she was/still is. As a result of her upbringing she despises being seen as helpless and weak, yet she still seeks the protection of Silco and later Vi. She is still crazy, but it's not her only trait like in the game. Jinx/Powder has been a way more interesting character than I thought she would be. TLDR I love how they kept her crazy, but in a way more interesting way.
@@keleitas150 That might just be. Ella (her VA) kind of hinted at it during the premiere. I just really hope they don't make her too over the top like in the game.
I feel Arcane improved on Jayce’s character by making him more sympathetic. He’s loyal to Viktor to the point he voted out their mutual mentor Heinerdinger to save his life. His love for his mother and naivety with Mel really improves over the egotistical Stark trope from og lore IMO.
Well that wasn’t his only character trait he still cared about people and respected ethics given his reaction to Vicktors plans sure he was an asshole but he was still a good person
Mmmm i think most, if not all of that is just building up to the crescendo, at some point it has to turn. Can't say the Stark trope isn't overused already, but it has its place in this universe
Because of Viktor, act 2 is my favourite act so far. Edit: I'm also not too negative about retconning, if done right and as of right now it seems to be working great. The changes may help a lot in future stories and how this story continues.
I was never the biggest fan of Vi over the 7 years I've been playing, but Arcane has made me love her and the idea of her and Caitlyn being a thing, even if it doesn't go any further than "a thing". I just like that she acts so close and comfortable around Caitlyn. I'm really happy with how the series is going so far c:
Honestly I love the dynamic they have as police partners. Like hell yeah they mess with each other. If they choose for it to be a romantic route then it was already foreshadowed in Legends of Runeterra so I suppose they'll ride on it like Leona and Diana.
@@bladekokiri Yeah same, when I first watch Act 2 I thought they were just a buddy cop duo and the usual awkward buddy cop shenanigans ensue but I'm ok if they became romantic partners it's just I prefer them being friends
I love Viktor so much. A man with purpose and heart confronted by his own mortality. He is literally working 24/7 to achieve big results in the little time he has left and I am sure he would do so even if he would't suffer a terminal illness. And I also love all the little fun facial expressions he has throughout the series.
Yeah I feel like there isn't any other cinematic purpose for Vi seeing Cait in the brothel with the woman and being happy about it other than to show that Cait is into women and that Vi now thinks on some level that she has a chance.
I doubt anything is ACTUALLY gonna come of it, because it’s Riot and they don’t have the BEST track record with LGBT+ champions but yeah, the writers knew what they were doing.
I really like that the animal Singed was experimenting with all those years back is suspended in a chamber and together with the fact we are unaware of what he has done since the end of act 1 and what he was doing during act 2 events PLUS the fact he was too busy to study the hexgem so jinx is forced to give it another try... makes the vander = ww theory live another day
I really love how they portrayed the mental illness of Jinx, gave me the same vibes as the game Hellblade Senua's Sacrifice. Her always seeing things and hearing voices, sometimes causing good things, like warning her in a fight but most of the time it's just gnawing at her mental state.
Yeah, exactly! Couldn’t said it better myself. The way they show how the guilt she feels is eating her up everyday is amazing. It’s in the most subtle things too like a facial expression or a look in her eyes. Very well done.
Yeah, I disagreed with Necrit on how he thinks it should’ve showed the build up. She’s not a born psychopath but instead seems to struggle with ptsd induced psychosis. I’m not a psychologist so forgive me if I used the wrong terminology but it’s best shot I could take at it.
Act 2 is a kinda necessary build up for act 3 i think. Im glad they chose to take time to explain and pace it slowly, because what will happen in the finale kinda big shot.
I think the great thing about this show is we expect so much from the story since we know lore somewhat depending on how much youve learnt about it. So we either get excited when it actually happens or shocked when it doesnt happen. Meanwhile none lore dwellers or none league players get a great story to enjoy for the first time
He could still be a professor. Jayce’s hubris in the face of heimers experience and using his own connections to cut him out completely is the beginning of the egotism. I believe it will be the political influence and power on him. Oh dude that’s totally ekko.
But you can't really blame Jayce, at the end of the day he wants to help people improve their lives, Heimer wants that too but he's way too disconnected from the human condition to help the people who need to be helped now.
I believe Jayce had a potential subplot you missed. In Arc 1 and a fair amount of Arc 2 Jayce has ambitions and goals he wants to accomplish, but it isn't until someone gives him permission or the assistance to move forward with those ambitions. A perfect example of this is when he decides to hold off the reveal of the Hex gemstone because Heimerdinger advised him to do so. After he became a member of the counsel, much of his early interactions with Mel were to show him that he has to stand by any decisions he makes to survive amongst the others. He needs to assert himself. This comes to a head with his decisions to ready the Wardens against Zaun and his call to have Heimerdinger retired. The later particularly shows his transition, as he's talking down to a man he genuinely respects. Also, I don't believe Mel's relationship with Jayce is exclusively her using him. Her call to add him to the counsel may have been to ensure his involvement with Hextech, but she seems genuinely miffed that he left without a word after their night together. Her eventual willingness to assist Jayce after he opens up about Victor's condition (something she responds to with her own gesture of vulnerability when she admits her distance with Madarda) illustrates the possibility that the relationship between the two of them (even it it was started by wanting to control Jayce) had become more personally intimate for both of them. I can't say for certain if they'll be a couple in Arc 3 or beyond, but I don't believe that it's as shallow as you think it is.
I believe jayce will leave her at the end, or some how overthrow her. Ending her manipulation and schemes making him not needing anyone and a self righteous hero of piltover.
Yeah it's a really great nuanced take on these character archetypes and the effort put into their relationship really makes me root for them both to find some kind of resolution in the future!
I think you're right, I would say the exact reason their relationship will die is because Jayce will learn why she started it. They'll both end loving each other, but somehow it's revealed and she has to come clean, ending the relationship she began to cherish in the process . It would be a fitting heartbreaker ending Riot for sure would like.
Great video, just wanted to mention that in the brothel scene Vi asks Caitlyn if she wants a man or a woman, and then introduces Caitlyn to a _guy_ in a mask, but when Vi comes back out Caitlyn has left that man behind to converse with a _female_ - To me it felt like a subtle way of showing Cait experimenting with her sexuality.
I just realized that "Shimmer" is the in game item as "Corrupting Potion" It does revitalize lost vitality, at the same time, it increases the your physical and mental capabilities
Should try searching for shimmer in the shop on league and seeing if it comes up, theres a few easter eggs like that in the shop as well as abbreviations
I have to strongly disagree with your thoughts on Jayce, I thought his relationship with Mel was absolutely foreseeable, makes sense and I personally thought it was obvious that Mel has her own agenda, in the "sequence" with those two, and Viktor and hexcore, I thought it was clearly showing that both Jayce and Viktor, metaphorically speaking, were making love with their fates or downfalls. With the imagery of Viktors blood and the Hexcore reflecting a sperm and an egg, and perhaps Jayce planted his own seed... cant believe I just said that, I thought that it all stayed consistent and true to the story. Jayces ego was so apparent he forced his mentor into retirement because he thought he could do his job better lol
Oh the sequence.... I was hoping that I was wrong about the blood and the hexcore reflecting the sperm and the egg.... I am still not completely sure what it was supposed to communicate.
@@lorenzangeles9626 Possibly but I think the elderly patron that shows up at the theatre is Leblanc. Go back and listen to her voice it's uncanny, and also it's important to note the obvious presence of ravens, possibly implying Swain is investigating Piltover and possibly sent Leblanc to spy. Theories have been fun with the show so far
I wasn't able to find the cinematic, but I'm SURE there was one where Ekko got his hands on a gemstone and used it to turn something into a hoverboard. That's what immediately led me to thinking about Ekko's involvement with the fireflies. I'm sure it wasn't completely canon, but the fact is was an official cinematic, paired with the lack of Ekko in Act 2 is enough for me!
Arcane is something I've wanted for the longest time. Well not Arcane exactly but some show that has to do with the lore of League of Legends. Arcane one of if not the best written show I ever watched. As well as one of the best choreograph shows I've seen. Each characters movement gives you insight on how one feels and each punch throw has an impact behind it. The art styles is so unique and beautiful and the atmosphere created is truly beyond a work of art. Also, attention ro detail is a really nice touch.
i don't expect people to come here and not know the show, i'm also trying not to give major spoilers, but beware anyway. yeah, i mean the plot itself is nothing too special, some "rich versus poor" and "both sides have good and bad people", sisters falling out etc. considering how limited they were as they couldn't just fully retcon the lore but also couldn't stick 100% to it (as that would be boring), it's very well done but the themes they're picking up are pretty nice. the madness of jinx being more than just "ah, i'm an edgy 16 yo who likes explosions and doesn't care for consequences" is a really nice part. generally, i was afraid it's going to be some PG-oriented series so everyone can watch it, but it's very serious and it tackles controversial topics rather well. and the animation ist just *.* but also the camerawork done, for example the flip when vi gets pushed into the ground that was also in the trailer is such a nice moment. it's a good way to make the audience feel the impact of everything.
Also, they both wearing red(ish) bandana's around their necks.. and this might be a little meta-gaming.. but the voice actor credited for the leader is the same voice acter in the zaun short for tales of runetera. In that same short, we see the creation of dropboards.
reminds me of ekkos gang in his original lore "the lost children" they promised not to augment their bodies...so maybe with the help of ekkos genius they made those hover boards instead?
The guy without pants from the brothel in the first act is Fortiche Productions Co founder Delord Arnaud, in act 2 you can see all three co founders on the airship. Mystery solved ;)
"I hate retconning" get ready, Necrit. the RCU is going to become the definitive league lore and is going to retcon A LOT more. just do your best to stop comparing arcane and league lore. it's alright to use league lore as a starting point of comparison because obviously rito is using their own lore and twisting a few things to make the show more coherent. but we gotta stop going back to league lore or you're gonna keep getting upset. Jayce for instance, clearly is already egotistical. so idk why you're upset with his portrayal in arcane. they're currently feeding his ego. by comparison, in league he's already a big headed egomaniac because he's nearly 40yo and has had his ego fed for YEEEEEARS by that point. And his attitude in arcane IS all about his work whether you feel that way or not. the dude tried to kill himself over his work being taken away...
yes! I agree. I also feel like it wouldn't be as interesting if they followed the lore exactly. What necrit said about singed was kinda weird to me. I feel like everyone's back story doesn't have to be shown. Singed isn't a main character like viktor, jayce, jinx, vi, and cait. He can mention his past through dialogue, but I don't think a flashback is needed.
Unfortunately I agree, from my viewpoint the show is perfectly closing the loops in these characters back stories with arcane. Plus as someone who has a background being mentally hospitalized many times I learned a lot about physiology so I wasn't wrongfully medicated, and when I say physiologically these stories also make a lot more sense vs "jinx is a lose cannon who sometimes talks to vi in a familial way" "Jayce and vicktor fell out due to jayces random ass ego" "ekko has a random thing for jinx" and "Cait n vi has some hella gay vibes" 😅 especially as a gay sexual deviant I love how subtle that was 😎. but then I remember how BADLY necrit hated the idea of jinx and vi being siblings so..... The story probably lowkey feels like a punch in the gut to him in many areas, and that's why it's 8/10 and 7/10 vs 10/10 because as someone who knows the lore as well as he does should see how this is such a great improvement, and brilliant. Like I personally am actually cutting riot slack for seraphkeheneibe after this and I HATE hate HATE her damn story. HaTe
I didn't like how Cait and Jayce could've been a thing in the first act. It felt like she idolized him in a crushy-way. Cait and Vi tho? Yeah, that's a ship I can sail on, cupcake. BTW did anyone else had a weird feeling with the interactions of Jinx with Silco? Sometimes I felt like they were almost too close, spatially speaking. Specially since Silco manipulated and lied to her into working with him, that's the kind of move someone with "other intentions" make. What's the opposite of the "now kiss" meme? Because that's how I felt, both in the shimmer-eye injection scene, and the river rebirth scene.
The main guy of the hoverboard gang, as said by necrit, is ekko. There is another hint to it actually in act 1. The mask ekko spies on grayson, benzo and vander through (in episode 1, i belive, when marcus and greyson come to investigate the explosion caused by the kids) is the same one that appears in the intro, thats how i first noticed it. Also in act 2 the main guy can be seen with a pocket watch in his hand multiple times. This combined with necrits evidence in the video and legends of runeterra card interactions (there is a hoverboarded card that ekko interacts with, asking the rider is the new board good, implying he made it) i think is solid proof that the main guy of the hoverboard gang is ekko. The only thing that i dont understand is why he tried to attack jinx with his weapon in episode 4. Maybe he belives she sided with silco and betrayed vander and the kids, and/or he blames her for benzos death.
I started crying when the council voted Heim out. The facial expression and my emotional love for Heim made that scene really hard to process and made me hate Jayce with a burning passion.
I like that Jinx hides above Silco's desk all the time. It's kind of reminiscent of when she was hiding from the enforcers in Act 1 and nearly fell, except now she's not falling (= growth).
I feel like they are doing a good job developing Jayce, currently he isn't arrogant or anything to what the lore describes him. But just like Jinx and how she's currently not bad shit crazy, they are progressing the story and explaining how she turns crazy. Jayce on the other hand, Riot are laying the ground work to how he turns arrogant, you can see in the past 6 episodes how every times he doesn't listen to Heimer's advise, it turns out good for him, if not a bit too good. Psychologically it makes him without realizing that every time he listen to himself and his emotion, he is in the right. And now that Heimer is out of the picture and his opposition is gone, he can now focus on doing what he think is right and wrong. Making him a bit by bit more arrogant
Yay i was thinking the same stuff. With his situation, scene by scene, seen the first episode, his behavior change step by step.Now,he alone, by his influence and his politics games ( even is Mel was the puppet master at the beginning) , make heimerdinger out of the place is gonna be a big change for his mind. " I have the power, i'm better than them, i can manipulate everyone even to fire the figure of the city" and crash totally in science focus when he 's gonna see what happen to viktor, when he's gonna understand how politics made him loose a lot of crucial time to his projects Something like that can be verry coherent with who he is now. Like jinx. She's not "crazy" for the moment, she still a young excentric zaun teenager with big intelligence but big trauma These two are in an "in-between" between what they were and what they will become I hope it's gonna be like this, to see all of their evolution
I honestly think it's more likely they retcon both Jinx and Jayce slightly. While I like it for Jinx as she is more "realistically" crazy in Arcane, I too would have wanted the arrogant d4ckface Jayce.
But his character was so much more then just an arrogant asshole that’s not his only character trait and in my opinion there’s no way the Arcane Jayce will be even slightly like the lore one since they have completely different motives
It had lots of exciting moments. Very good overall. Excited for how the third act turns out :) I hope we see Viktors transformation soon! I’m just trying to blank my mind and absorb it as it in without my conception of the character from the MOBA. It seems jinx’s insanity kicks in as a defense mechanism when she is high stress situations. I think you mischaracterize Caitlyn. She is just a tough girl who rejects the proper life of her family(obviously her and VI are meant to be love interests). She enjoys and is a natural detective. Jayce I think Mel does care about him and this is all setting up Viktor to kill her by mistake or on purpose IMO. We will see this is a fun show.
I have a feeling Noxus is the next series. Swain crows lol. They're the closest, and the only nation mentioned so far. Speculating that Ionia or Shurima will follow suit.
this series will go on for a season 2 idt another series will come cause camille havnt exploded and turned into a hex human, urgot, singed havent come to power as yet im assuming after silco dies urgot will take over his empire and all the hextech politics cause rremember the show either ends with the destruction of zhaun and piltover or them coming to an understanding
When Viktor said "I understand now" and the Singed we know was finally revealed, I had to take a second because the meaning of that and the forecoming implications of this are just sooooo good.
All the show about hextech, jayce and viktor are a retcon. I have the viktor/jayces/blitz pages in front of my eyes In short : Hextech already exist when jayce and viktor was kids. But a better powerful gems was discovered in the futur. So before that, in their first adult ages, they already build a lot of big machine and tools to help people. But viktor decide to add some chemtech ( to control mind ) on tools. Jayce and him desagree on that, they almost fight, jayce cry in front of the concil. They fired Viktor from academia. Viktor lock himself in his laboratory in zaun, he knew jayce discovered something big ( a powerful hextech gem ), try to stole him, they fight, the building make big badaboom, viktor flee, viktor succes to stole the gems, viktor return to the laboratory and transform himself of what he is in the game, and still want to help people with despair to change them like him, without emotion Oh and blitzcrank should be here in the serie, vapor golem are frequent in zaun and viktor, before to be a strange thing, ( after his fight against jayce i guess), repair one of them with hextech technology to make him "alive" Same thing about the arrogant mentality jayce stuff. Sometimes he totally he's, but other time he "seem" to be one. Majority of the time he's just a obsesionnal scientist of science and just doesn't care about other people except when they have the same mentlity of focus science than him, his lifehis science and it's totally different than an arrogant one. An arrogant don't " doesn't care". Nothing correspond to the serie. Rito do something pliz
@@musicsbricabrac7195 I think they are going to change/update all Hextech related lore and stories, once Arcane ends. Either that, or Arcane is not canon
@@pj-m7562 Which I'm pretty sure they'll do considering all the money they've spent purely on advertising this show. I'm pretty sure its canon otherwise they basically just spent what's probably a fortune on a glorified fanfiction, unless they pull some "Cinematic-universe" crap where Arcane is set on a different Runeterra from the one we know... I obviously wouldn't be happy if they did that.
@@pj-m7562 It would be a shame to do nothing with arcane, or only like a "one shot" of univers interpretation. At leat, even if arcane is not canon, update all the Hextech related Lore ( but don't erase the brackern one pliz rito :'( )
One more thing why ekko is the leader of the fireflights/owl mask guy is in act 1 ep 1. Ekko looked through his telescope with the owl mask. This can be seen on necrit's "The Hidden Details Of Arcane - Act 1" at 6:44. And the mask just really looks similar to the fireflight's leader's mask. Which means Ekko might had took it and cleaned it.
The voice actor for the Leader of the Firelights is also the same person who voices Ekko in the Legends of Runeterra cinematic as well as in the upcoming Riot Forge game, Reed Shannon. It could be a red herring but who knows.
