Nekusar vs Kyler vs Ramos vs Xira Arien EDH / CMDR game play for Magic: The Gathering

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@TheWaffleDad 2 года назад

Ben's deck was absolutely brutal, and not really in a good way. What an unfun deck to play against

@lighterknot4385 Год назад

I don’t know why but it bothers me when people play their lands up top

@AvatarKira 2 года назад

Can't stress enough how much Adeline players need to pay attention to her ability. She triggers when any of your creatures attack, not just her. A lot of value lost on that one. Could have potentially changed the outcome of this game.

@MTGMuddstah 2 года назад

Good catch. I'll definitely watch out for that moving forward.

@Felhate 2 года назад

People who play with Lands in the front get targeted immediately for elimination. I don't care if it is a casual deck. You have chosen death lol.

@gypsieking3280 2 года назад

If you think that is bad you should see the diagrams from my 4th edition rulebook. They have a Northern Paladin with a single plains on either side and a Savannah lions to the right of those three cards all in the same row. The horror! :D

@aleksandarmarkovic7190 2 года назад

1) Adeline triggers when any creature attacks, so Shane missed a lot of triggers. 2) Mending of Dominaria shuffles the graveyard into the library afterwards, so he couldn't get back all those cards with seasons past like he did.

@BadCookies1234 2 года назад

It only triggers one time. But still, he did miss triggers.

@andrewrockwell1282 2 года назад

I saw that Adeline and thought it was over and then was heartbroken when the time s didn't pop in and finish it.

@ramensobatv 2 года назад

This is what I also thought. He could’ve attacked with hanweir militia and get 3 humans at first. Then there was a second time where he could’ve had more triggers. Shane could’ve won.

@morrius0757 2 года назад

@@ramensobatv Adeline only triggers once, but yeah, he missed chances where Adeline would trigger. Why she triggers once is because she says when you attack, not when a creature you control attacks. Meaning she doesn't care about how many creatures attack, only that you attack.

@ramensobatv 2 года назад

@@morrius0757 yes. 3 humans, 1 for each opponent.

@miketripp9375 2 года назад

i think shane missed some adeline triggers, since she doesn't have to attack herself

@shekki3192 2 года назад

And vigilance

@stevenshafer2817 2 года назад

Being alright with lands in the front but disliking the white border lands honestly cracked me up. Thanks for the game today

@kingfuzzy2 2 года назад

Helps you find the 3 basics in ur deck.

@krotash7740 2 года назад

Two big missed details altered the outcome of that game. Adeline triggers whenever you attack, not Adeline herself. The extra damage on Ben would have been enough to take him out before he assembled the Mindslaver lock. On top of that, the third chapter of Mending of Dominaria shuffles your graveyard into your library. Ben would not have been able to Seasons Past that pile back.

@MTGMuddstah 2 года назад

Good catches!

@Malus9804 2 года назад

Nekusar is one of my favorite commanders and I’m glad to see him here! Ben’s deck and that Obliterate, however, made this game extremely boring halfway through

@thomasgaillard6713 2 года назад

I agree, the game looked fun until it turn into boardwipe tribal. The rebuild was brutal for the Kyler player!

@oz2362 2 года назад

Casting obliterate and then not having an immediate plan afterwards to end the game is the most shitty thing you can do

@Havok91 10 месяцев назад

I have to agree with everything in this thread. I really just don't enjoy seeing everyone's progress wiped off of the board and would rather see how everyone's deck plays unimpeded.

@faerie7dragon 2 года назад

Adeline has vigilance... Why do people keep tapping creatures with Vigilance in Muddstah's presence? Truly a mystery!

@kingfuzzy2 2 года назад

To establish dominance.

@Matthias-pj6th 2 года назад

Obliterate -> MIndslaver Loop just feels like such a bullshit way to win...

@jamespooh2 2 года назад

@@MTGSavage Yeah but that's just creates a bad dynamic with the wrong group. Just be upfront about what the deck does and if the group doesn't like it, don't play it.

@TheTriforceNinja 2 года назад

Ben's deck looked incredibly unfun to play against and it was also incredibly unfun to watch. Am definitely rooting for a Kyler deck to pop off in one of these vids, as well as Ramos!

@edkolbe1850 2 года назад

Shane could have taken out Ben turn 9 if he remembered the Adeline trigger and alpha striked him. Humans would have had +6/+6 and with three attackers and only one blocker he would be out.

@stevenbuck4090 2 года назад

Disagree, I enjoyed it.

@bwallaceMLG 2 года назад

It’s definitely a deck that you should be clear what your intentions are with it but I wouldn’t call it “unfun” it’s very fun with the right table

@mr.oddyst6375 2 года назад

@@stevenbuck4090 I also disagree as I also enjoyed this game a lot.

@HotSaws11 2 года назад

YUP! These are the types of players that I immediately erase on site.

@nielsverbunt950 2 года назад

Lands up front, mass land destruction and no win con in sight, sadness. I wouldn't want to play with Ben. Do I even want to watch these games anymore?

@Adrianovaz2007 2 года назад

The Deranged Outcast slap onto the table shows how stupid the game turned after Obliterate+Tainted Aether, I would've scooped and moved tables at that point tbh.

@thelunchlady8276 2 года назад

You and me both.

@morrius0757 2 года назад

Deranged Outcast does a lot of work in Kyler decks if you know what you're doing.

@MM-lv7iy 2 года назад

I mean, you could argue the plan for obliterate was the saga, but yeah, a little slow to be a game closer sort of thing.

@ryanwillson2751 2 года назад

It's how my Windgrace wins. Depends on the play group tbh

@Ger3214 2 года назад

Don't be a Ben. That is a new motto.

@mosthatedlivestream8120 2 года назад

i feel like people play lands infront to try and hide what they're doing.

@A3Nargi 2 года назад

The moment Ben started looping boardwipes out of his graveyard, the table should have collectively acknowledged the incoming BS and turned their focus. Players like that earn a reputation to be targeted first, regardless of the commander.

@Tyranitar-hd6hi 2 года назад

Agreed

@scabman1 2 года назад

I'm so happy to see someone play Urza's Guilt! Such a good card that I never see played!

@kingfuzzy2 2 года назад

Man that insect tribal deck is some pretty darn sick art.

@pauldyson8098 2 года назад

I've been meaning to build an all white-bordered Xira deck. I need to get on that.

@kristopherwatts9466 2 года назад

It was a great game.. just.. not really entertaining to watch after the obliterate.. and I suspect not that fun to play the however many turns it was until the game was finally over

@Dioliolio 2 года назад

People really need to read Adeline.

@kingfuzzy2 2 года назад

Hope to see an insect tribal value deck and the sick Ramos deck do something.

@fredouellet3160 2 года назад

It's the first time I see someone playing xira arien. Melissa Benson was my favorite artist when I started in the mid 90s. I recently decided to build a deck with her at the helm. Though the concept will make you sick, it's a fully white-bordered deck! It's quite a challenge, but I will put a lot of nostalgic cards and have a tokens/sacrifice theme (with what I have access to). There will be vaevictis asmadi as an alternate commander to be even more vintage with an original elder dragon at the helm of an EDH deck, what a concept!

@eirvandelden 2 года назад

Instant like for the Reboot reference! I got your back, I got the reference halfway through the first sentence :D

@brettsutherland8390 2 года назад

Love your ramos deck and that Sol ring alter!

@gnemish 2 года назад

who hurt this Ben guy?

@coachgonzalezpg1742 2 года назад

Land Destruction needs to be a win condition, my dude played obliterate and the game went on for another 10 turns

@yaboysp00ders6 2 года назад

It was a win condition. He was behind, so he rest the board knowing he could recover better than the other decks. That’s what board wipes are for.

@ivernedit4132 2 года назад

Built a ramos mutate myself and excited to try it out soon.

@chimneyimp1486 2 года назад

i already added yesterday before watching the video adeline and kyler to a deck. can't wait to see them together in my games

@connorl0204 2 года назад

The only time i have manor issue with mass land destruction is when you cant close the game reliably after doing so.

@saidinstouch2186 2 года назад

I agree. It really drags out the game otherwise.

@benwood4416 Год назад

at 0:59 for Ramos opening hand, what Sol ring is that?

@victorcardoso6111 2 года назад

Where did you get the Van Gogh Sol Ring????

@blackmountain1983 2 года назад

Haha reboot, I haven't seen that show in years, and even though I have seen every single episode I still didn't get the joke until you told me haha.

@AidanWR 2 года назад

I know she's a little expensive, but have you thought about adding Sigarda, Host of Herons to this deck?

@OodustwindoO 2 года назад

The music makes me think of the have Vandal Hearts... that's a long forgotten game

@00GhostSlayer00 2 года назад

Thanks for the warning but you didn't say they were white boarded lands in front, I was not prepared for that

@blakem000 2 года назад

Boy, that is a cruel Xira deck!

@AnticlimacticPangolin 2 года назад

Really wanted to see more of the Ramos deck, but I guess ill see a full board reset instead 🥲🥲

@TxarlesN 2 года назад

Oh, yes. The fist game of the year.

@admiralJONK 2 года назад

thanks for the “lands in front” trigger warning lmao it actually drives me up a wall

@afspeellijstnaruto 2 года назад

New background music?! sweet.

@sadizz455 2 года назад

I appreciate the Reboot reference.

@gahbunk 2 года назад

Stay frosty!

@shayneweyker 2 года назад

Let me know the next time you plan to play both Shanes. I want to play too and see what the edited game sounds like. :-)

@zachharrell7776 2 года назад

Bro, what is that sol ring, I want one!

@packfiend3732 2 года назад

Can you mutate vulpikeet on animar with prot from W?

@ericriner9425 2 года назад

Mutate targets, so looks like no.

@MTGMuddstah 2 года назад

Sadly no.

@RickvantHof 2 года назад

Reading Mending of Dominaria next time helps

@michaelrichards5253 2 года назад

Very cool game. 😎

@kyubbiman2255 2 года назад

You gonna update your Ramos list?

@danielwilson7227 2 года назад

Nekusar deck list?

@darth_prentiss 2 года назад

RIP NEW SHANE. Love Nekusar. Would love to see more games with that deck. 💜🕺🏻

@briankettenbach984 2 года назад

First game baby

@croatoan8394 2 года назад

I can hear the actual pain in your voice as you read out Bens plays.

@lucasbuff8451 2 года назад

Very nice humans deck

@jaymack9199 2 года назад

HAH. Best intro yet.

@meatrace 2 года назад

Ben's constant card flicking drove me nuts.

@commongentleman529 2 года назад

More Kyler gameplay please, just built it by mashing a coven counters and ruthless regiment deck together, then spending £/$10 on midnight hunt singles 👌

@thomasgaillard6713 2 года назад

I just orderded the cards for Kyler, the deck seems so fun! And it's really cheap, given that Coven Counters got a bad rep, all the good pieces are less than 1€, talk about budget decl!

@josephandrees5381 Год назад

Regardless of how somebody feels about lands in front, if it's going up for content, keeping things consistent for all four players is better for viewing.

@pierredupont1096 2 года назад

I love seeing my friends Ben and Shane on this stream, but did Underworld Dreams not live through Obliterate? I was kinda skimming through.

@MTGMuddstah 2 года назад

New Shane was dead by that point I believe.

@Punintentionally 2 года назад

Not sure if this is something you’re considering for Ramos, but I am building a deck that cares about targeting my creatures and these are ones I use: Stormchaser Drake Triton Fortune Hunter Gnarlback Rhino Goldspan Dragon Gargos Viscious Watcher Gargos is especially nice since it doesn’t care which if your creatures is being targeted and just leaps into action.

@ingolf82 2 года назад

like I said on that other Ramos video, you seem to have 2 cards missing in your Ramos deck, there are only 98

@Rabbit3 2 года назад

Crustal shard doing work

@jasonL287 2 года назад

Ben should have been given a game loss for playing his lands up front 😂

@Threadoflength 2 года назад

At least he made an effort to display them clearly, unlike that heathen Shane who put his lands in front as a giant messy wall.

@tetrisgoat 2 года назад

This video is really triggering my deep hatred for alters.

@kingfuzzy2 2 года назад

What a relief.

@KidsJavo2088 2 года назад

people who use the lands use the lands in front of their creatures, enchantments and artifacts should start the game with 20 lives, xD

@WickyGames 2 года назад

Idk how it is meant to be pronounced, but my moms name is Arien and it is pronounced like Aaron or Erin.

@ArcFallen1 2 года назад

What a wierd and cool game! Lol

@smack80 2 года назад

He did have a full plan for after the obliterate: his deck. He has a deck that can rebuild after an obliterate and hinder opponents from doing so. If I wanted to see him immediately win I'd watch the Thassas Oracle games on the other channel.

@greatbrandini3967 2 года назад

Yup, he had an Indestructible mana rock and a fist full of lands. That Obliterate was completely fine and he was in a position to capitalize on the follow up with that black enchantment

@avatarofpapermagic 2 года назад

New Shane? Surely you guys can come up with a Nickname? Shane-o, Shim, Sham, S-Man

@falformfreeform9553 2 года назад

Haven't seen a Nekusar in a hot minute lezzgo!!

@swrodgon 2 года назад

Pretty shitty ending, was hoping the Ramos deck would get a win. Sucky ass mld and blowing up everything.

@MTGMuddstah 2 года назад

I think I got pretty close to winning!

@TiltedHound 2 года назад

Thay obliterate was disgusting, lol.

@jonmagic1123 2 года назад

So, I have mass land destruction in every deck. But I only play it when I'm winning the game. That way no one is sitting there not having fun. I just mass land destruction so they don't have answers and then i just win the game from there.

@kingfuzzy2 2 года назад

The true aggro wincon.

@saidinstouch2186 2 года назад

That's how mass land destruction should be used.

@MtendoTheSkunk 2 года назад

It hurt me to watch you (Andrew) to not use the Crystal Shard to bounce either Xira or Kyler back to their hand on turn four when they didn't have 1 mana to pay for it. D:

@MTGMuddstah 2 года назад

Ooooo, good eye! I usually save it to protect my Mutate stack though.

@ifnrok 2 года назад

Ben seemed like he really was trying hard. He was shuffling his hand so much.

@oz2362 2 года назад

Yeah all his mannerisms screamed try hard

@HydraQU33N 2 года назад

Ye, dont liek the obliterate and repeatable mindslaver, kinda gross and hope not to see that deck again

@gilligan6868 2 года назад

The college kids at my LGS needle me for playing with my lands out front. It's just the way we did it when I started playing (1997.)

@kingfuzzy2 2 года назад

As Richard Garfield intended

@johnaych8954 2 года назад

i dont mind watching games with lands up front, but playing with them is annoying because it's important to be able to see peoples board-states clearly

@gypsieking3280 2 года назад

Represent!

@polkjio 2 года назад

shame its against the rules in organised play now though - not too bad to look at if all players do it - but not when half the table does it - makes the game horrible to watch

@garethsentry 2 года назад

I started playing at 5th edition and I've never played with anyone who did it, in competition or otherwise, seems weird when you need to see the cards your opponents are casting not their lands.

@rexone9564 2 года назад

Best Ramos video?

@abdullahalmarhoun1788 2 года назад

First baby lets gooooo

@stayathomedad4830 2 года назад

My kyler humans deck has gone off one time. Every time after that I will be everyone's target no matter what playing that deck lol

@MTGMuddstah 2 года назад

Deck can be EXPLOSIVE, that's for sure.

@TheBalogna7 2 года назад

I thought the whole being ok with lands in front but drawing the line at white bordered cards comment at the end was pretty great. It is always interesting seeing what random things trigger MTG players. The amount of cringe in this comment section for example. Either way, this was a pretty cool game up to the Obliterate, but even after that, seeing Ben's deck rebuild so efficiently was interesting. Keep up the great content!

@greekPharaoh666 2 года назад

Lands in the front again! *insert melting face from Indiana jones (obviously a joke, no hate)

@plain6677 2 года назад

Very good game! Some Adeline’s triggers were missed. Love the Obliterate

@edkolbe1850 2 года назад

With Kyler out there was an opportunity to take out Ben with those Adeline triggers before the obliterate.

@jaka1748 2 года назад

So, who's gonna tell Andrew that it's 'Vulpikeet' and not 'Vulkipeet'?

@kingfuzzy2 2 года назад

It's definitely peep peep or pspspsps

@ramensobatv 2 года назад

I was really rooting for Kyler but Shane missed a lot of Adeline triggers. Shame.

@aricaric1894 2 года назад

Ben's deck was so boring and cheesy.

@kevinlewis1675 2 года назад

What even is Ben’s deck!? “Jund Eff you all.”

@chaoticrevenge7950 2 года назад

Lands in front is a crime against everything

@kingfuzzy2 2 года назад

As Richard Garfield intended.

@MTGMuddstah 2 года назад

I would argue playing white bordered lands is a bigger crime.

@chaoticrevenge7950 2 года назад

@@MTGMuddstah both are a crime

@Tehnameless1 2 года назад

@@MTGMuddstah I'll play my white bordered lands in front without sleeves on the pavement

@gypsieking3280 2 года назад

@@Tehnameless1 with our ante cards?

@DrexSinister 2 года назад

Yeah this one gets a dislike from me. I don't understand how it's fun to play with and against decks like that.

@coachgonzalezpg1742 2 года назад

Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude that tainted aether lol

@willleonard7439 2 года назад

For me when someone pulls out some MLD I just scoop 99% of the time. Either the person who did it is just going to win immediately because they have a plan or they don't and the game goes on another hour with everyone doing almost nothing. Not worth the time IMO. Not saying the strategy is bad, I just don't think it's worth the time to rebuild.

@phgtxxx5028 2 года назад

At least Ben won. People who play cards like obliterate and then have no plan and/or desire to win are the worst. I personally would have just scooped up to play another game but that's also based on my relationship with my pod. Impressed you all stuck it out.

@vincentaponte5726 2 года назад

I wanted him to lose specially because he played Obliterate. Someone will get me with that trick one time and then never get to play at my pod again or I'll tweak my Mizzix deck back to having a bunch of interaction pieces and they won't resolve a meaningful spell every game I play against that deck. Don't want to let a pod play magic? You don't get to play magic then...

@primeascendant797 2 года назад

Seemed like he had some kind of plan with The Mending of Dominaria. Maybe not executely perfectly but that's the nature of the format. I don't have a problem with MLD as a meta-response to the ubiquitous ramp decks. In fact, ramp decks should really have the least problem with MLD--they just have to ramp less aggressively and hold on to a ramp card or two with which to recover. It could encourage players to play tighter and lower their curves. I know saying that is heretical in a format where people seem to only be ok if you're playing some form of combo/ramp, but I think everyone benefits from learning how to deal with different axes of interaction. If something really does become oppressive, then sure, deal with it socially, but try to solve things in-game first.

@aintenoughroomforthetwoofus 2 года назад

I think it was pure chance that he drew mending.

@guitarmuser6150 2 года назад

I'm new to Magic. Not complaining, but I'm genuinely curious why these people play their lands up front? Is this some sort of strategic decision to obfuscate or sort of hide what's going on with your board state or...? I learned from a WotC tutorial and even they say to play your lands back, close to you etc. What am I missing here?

@MTGMuddstah 2 года назад

It was how some people were taught at the inception of the game.

@guitarmuser6150 2 года назад

@@MTGMuddstah Ah, ok. How long ago might that have been? I have not seen or even heard of this sort of thing in my MtG community. Some of the people I play with are over 10 - 15 years into the game.

@croatoan8394 2 года назад

@@guitarmuser6150 its been long enough now they could have changed their land positioning and should change it to follow standard rules. At this point they are just doing it cause they know it gets under peoples skin.

@guitarmuser6150 2 года назад

@@croatoan8394 Hm. Well, maybe that's why I never see it at my tournys. One of the points each table gets is a "sportsmanship" point that's voted on by the table. I guess with that kind of attitude, they're pretty sure they'd never get a chance at that point. LOL!

@ay0and0jay 2 года назад

White borders for the win

@lucasbareis-golumb2388 2 года назад

Fun game, boring obliterate

@zerceassking1662 2 года назад

Plsssss Neku list @mtg

@quaide78 2 года назад

LAND BARRICADE!

@BelieMyBurial 2 года назад

literally what is the logic behind 'lands in front', other than to just rile up viewers? lol the cards that actually impact the game should be in front where the other players have an easier time seeing them and your boardstate in general, whereas lands are gonna statistically be tapped/untapped more frequently than anything else, so you'd want them closer to your hands.

@MTGMuddstah 2 года назад

It's how they learned to play way back in the day, and no one at the table minded it.

@BelieMyBurial 2 года назад

@@MTGMuddstah i mean, i wouldn't kick them off the table or nothin, but yea, just weird to see lol