this video is a quick tip on the best way to use chains when securing heavy equipment such as skid steers or mini excavators. The excavator shown is a takeuchi TB 235-2.
Here's another tip so your welds won't weaken over time. Put the hook on the other side so the chain pulls into the weld, not pulling away from the weld.
@@gopackgo4036 it does actually. The weld bead is only on one side if the metal that makes up that box. So his hook is pulling away from the bead which is a no go. if its a bad weld or shallow penetration it will come apart over time. hook it so the hook pulls the box into the weld bead not away from it. but as already mentioned, the D ring is right there where he needs to hook that chain and that should be his first go to. Steak pockets are last resort or if its all you have for securement.
@@RodeoJoe1981yes and not the sake pocket is made with a weaker thinner metal kinda why see lot of them that are deformed from being pulled on. If it's all you have to get a good hook up sure use it but the d ring is usually going to be a stronger point to hook to.
Let the chain go under the pocket and around. Think of the chain hugging the pocket. Take hook end and attach it into the link. But there's a million ways to get it done. But sometimes you'll have a failure. Then DOT shows up.
@redrustyhill2 ok sunny gem. I suppose you also use 4 chains, 4 ratchet binders, and either chain or strap going across the boom. Cant wait to see you lose your load or better yet, canned by DOT. And yes they write tickets for that. (Improper load securement). You've just gotten REAL LUCKY moving all that minor league stuff.
@EyesOnlyTeam86 I've been using stake pockets and rub rails many years, as does everyone i know. Never broke one off and never will. Never even seen a trailer with d rings welded on the deck. If it was my trailer I'd cut them things off. They aren't needed, and they are just in the way for other loads.
@redrustyhill2 Like the old saying, "Can't teach an old dog new tricks." Just because you've gotten lucky and have been doing that way for years, doesn't mean it's correct. I dare you to go take your happy ass into a DOT scale house and volunteer for a Level 1 inspection. A wise Danielson would listen to some sound advise an study up on the DOT load securment regulations. D rings are a special order item for trailers, cutting them off would be considered tampering with manufacturer installed securment equipment. DOT will shut you down noting you have tampered with the safety integrity of the trailer. You won't win with me hotshotter. I'm a DOT load securment scholar.
You can use the stake pocket but the D ring that is there is a lot stronger and is probably rated close for that chain. That stake pocket is not rated for as much.
Aldo u should Never have the binder behind the tie point, it should be hooked on the outside of the eye on the chain, then chain wrapped though rhe d ring and to the hook of the binder, also should have 4 chains and binders , one on each corner, not 1 chain across the machine,
Securing it that way puts excessive upward force on the stake pocket, in a case where you are using the stake pocket as your tie-down point you should have the hook on the same side that the chain is. Now with a trailer like the one in the video those stake pockets don't have a huge weight rating so that's why the manufacturer installed those D rings, you should be using those. The other way is to drop the chain through the stake pocket and secure the hook to the frame of the trailer. In some jurisdictions the way shown in this video will get you an improper securment ticket if you are pulled over.
The pockets aren’t load rated like that, the rating is to go around the whole pocket. Also when you chain like that your chain is inevitably too tight or too loose because you aren’t able to take out or go up a half link.
Quick tip for using chains, go around the pocket so the chain is literally wrapped around 3 sides. It helps to distribute the load on the pocket metal. OR bring the chain down one side, under and up the other side. Then hook the chain back onto itself. While the first method is arguably more secure (less likely to move once tight), the downside is repeatedly putting stress on the same chain links as it wraps around the pocket. With the second method you can vary the size of your loop, thereby increasing the life of the chain, plus you can take up some of the chain slack this way. Also, depending what your hauling, this method opens the door for more incentive ways to secure certain material (less of an issue with equipment, but good to know your options)
Unfortunately on this trailer with this machine the d-rings are too short of a throw to be able to use the load binders. The steel where I have it connected is quite thick and haven't had any problems doing it this way
By hooking that way you are pulling the hook open, that's wrong. Always hook so you pull the hook closed. You won't break the hook that way. And yes, if you have D rings, use them first. They will usually distribute the load more evenly.
@@redrustyhill2no d ring are not for ratchet straps! let's break this down d rings are a higher grade steel all the way around designed for holding equipment down stake pockets are thiner weaker steel not designed as a hold down point next if you hook a piece of equipment down how he just showed and dot look at it you are getting a ticket the chain must be hooked to itself according to the law.
@@t-bfr45-70 i have NEVER seen a factory trailer come with d rings welded on the deck or even on the sides. The ONLY time i have seen them on a trailer was homemade trailers or something the owner added AFTER purchase. Only exception is the 25 ton equipment trailer at my job that doesn't have "stake pockets". You just another clueless pleb. Please though, give your retarrd answer how the hell one is going to chain or strap anything down to these millions of trailers around the country that dont have a single d-ring but do have "stake pockets" welded securely to the side with rub rails???
Why are you chaining to a stake pocket? You have a tie down, which is much stronger right there. Those pockets are for putting sides on your trailer, not tying down loads. It's thin guage steel that isn't made for being under stress. Also, you should loop the chain back onto itself after going through the tie down. What are you doing is putting stress on the hook rather than the chain.
For thia smaller stuff you might get away with thatbut as a full size truck driver i have to tell you that is not hooked properly. That square hole is called a steak box and its only welded on the outside. So your hook is pulling the box to the inside away from the weld. I make sure I go around the box completely and hook it in a way that its going to pull that box into the weld. Its stronger that way and your steak box wont come apart. HOWEVER, You have a D ring right there. the Steak box is one valid ancor point but not the strongest. I would much rather loop through that D and hook thr chain back to itself than use a steak pocket
We are told to feed the chain amount the bar or through the loop and back on itself. I can see potential for problems doing it this way just less than the first example.
A better tip is to use the osha approved D rings shown right above where you we’re working and bring the chain thru and hook back on itself…that’s the correct way
@@Bennysol huh…..it’s the OSHA approved way…..the D ring is attached and welded to hold the approved amount of weight. The correct way to connect a chain is thru and then back on itself…the hook specifically is designed to go between the link…..
@@paulthesoundguy1 so. Pre Osha during the construction of the empire state building and the Rockefeller building in New York during the 1920's and 1930's there was a total of 3 worker deaths. After Osha during the construction of the WTC's in the 1970's there was over 70 worker deaths. Osha is simply a bureaucracy to cause more deaths in order to steal more money. And you're a mindless sheep who follows any nonsense they're told
It's always good to double check your load After you get going I have seen many large loads with loose chain binders because the binder is on one side and the load will shift
You can work at ten different heavy equipment businesses an all ten will have there own way of chaining down.last place I worked at used this method,I'm not saying its rite or wrong but never had an issue.
@@DiyCommerce It is a stake pocket, not a steak pocket. Trailer manufacturers don’t rate stake pockets for load, as that’s not what there’re designed to do. But hey fella you do it your way. Why do you think they put a D-ring on the trailer for?? Looks??
Use the d-rings to tie down, not the rub rail pocket. You can usually get away with what this poster is doing, but that pocket is not reslly meant for securing loads to.
@@LifestyleNotOfTheRichAndFamous Hows that buddy ? .......You might be able to run that on the farm but on the highway the DOT ain't having none of that.
No no no. You hooked it on the wrong side...but being silly aside, I didn't know how many people didn't know how or why they need to hook the chain correctly. Thanks for making an informative video and I'm sure it will save many, much heartache ...
You guys chain down your equipment? I guess I don't drive that far or fast. My mini ex only slides a little. Pretty heavy and saves time. Back roads no dot checks
@@DiyCommerceit's same laws in the United States maybe should read the book again before getting the ticket from dot. The chain must be hooked to itself.
@@redrustyhill2 well their whole lot thinner than the d-rings are so I don't see where you're going with that. If I take my hammer to the flat side of a stake pocket I'll fold it over I guarantee you but try as I might I don't think I'm going to beat a d-ring in and fold it over
@@brizzle8797 been using them many years now chaining down very heavy loads, never broke one or even bent one on any of my trailers. If you rip off a stake pocket you have a shitty cheap trailer.
your chain is not straight in one line , it goes above the corner this will , cost you many pressure power. thats the worst way to safe your machine, sorr for my english im from germany , here you learn how to do it the right way ;D
So you just going to ignore that load eye next to where you put the hook😂😂😂 the only thing holding the hook, is the very thing the chain is using all its force against. Better hope them welds are good!
That’s a stupid suggestion. Especially with a D Ring in plain site Last resort using stake pockets. Eventually stakes will be hard to use and remove 🤷🏻♂️
Needs 4 points of contact to be legal, Go all around pocket for it to not damage it over time. I laugh at guys chaining using pockets pulling on the one wall alone. Steel hauler here, So I know what im talking about.
Actually never use the square stake pockes like he is in this video! Always use that ring welded to the trailer. Also if ur going to give "quick tip" know what ur talking about.
No no no. Use the damn D ring. That's a stronger tie spot. And you'll find the DOT will tell you the same thing.. stake pockets are only a last resort if there's no other tie down points
@DiyCommerce that's y ur supposed to wrap the chain through it and pur the binder on the chain, .. but if u mean the chain is too short you need another chain, or a short piece in a loop, especially if this is equipment you haul alot
