New Cat Engine set to replace the C15.... The Cat C13D, 690 Horsepower. 

Cat dealer tech here I actually just had a cat off highway emissions class last week my instructor was very knowledgeable about the new engines and you kind of touched on it but the biggest change I’m excited about is no more egr/nrs system. The science has been improving on the scr and we are able to filter all the nox out without having to reburn exhaust gasses in the combustion chamber. This will however lead to more def consumption but I’m stoked about not having clogged up egr components and being able to make more horsepower with less displacement. That’s why we are going to see this engine replace the larger ones

The other note EGR systems on diesels are the number one killer of longevity

I think it’s a step forward for cats future and I hope it works fantastic 😊

Always appreciate the new content! 🎉

Gonna be tough to build something better than the venerable 3406.

Truly enjoy the explanation Josh always gives !!

I prefer my 6nz. Easy to work on, easy to figure out any issue. Thank you for the great information.

Thank you for bringing us up-to-date on the new c13 d glad cat is still making motors

A lot of common rail engines such as mtu and man use the upside down filter cartridges because they found that mechanics have a tendency to prefill filters with diesel before installing causing the injectors to suck up unfiltered fuel and trashing out the high pressure injectors. That was man’s fix for trashing injectors in their engines. I’ve been seeing a lot of this lately.

I am really looking forward to to following the progress of that engine

My favorite part is that black tube going from the valve cover to open atmosphere 😍

Definitely get euro engine design vibes from this. I'm a Kenworth tech so Paccar MX engines are what we work on alot. In the trucking industry, we've been around the cartridge filters for a while now. The new EPA 2021B Paccar went to the twin filter module and made filter services alot better. I can't wait until everyone else starts getting rid of EGR. I know it's been in the works for north America for a while but I'd love to finally see it done for truck engines.

In regards to the name, original c13 was known internally to Cat at c13a, c13b was introduced a few years ago with vgt turbo and a 7th injector to burn off exhaust gas in the turbo, c13c sounded funny so they went with C13D. I was part of the team at mfg plant where this is being produced.

Thx, seems like a nice engine package, weight to hp. Keep the great post coming

Josh thanks for breaking this engine down for us common folks. I think it's like the big 3 pushing new trucks with smaller eco friendly engines. Need to see how long they last and some of the carnage left over.😮

Great video !! I think I'll keep my old C15, this new engine seems too complicated. Very interesting 🤔👍🏽 Thanks Josh !!

Cat parts tech here. Cant wait for these to come out on SIS so i can poke around. thanks for the upload ape!

Thank you Josh 👍🏼

Wow!! This is going to change the trucking world for the better! 😁

With all the emission stuff it still has straight breather pipe to ground. That is a surprise.

I for one like the idea of Cat motor for highway use been running them for over 30 years was bummed when they left the highway market.

DAF had cummins engines in some trucks a while ago now I think it is mostly the PACCAR MX-11 engine. Nice overview on the new Cat engine. Hope it is a good engine. Be safe Sir.

Daf is actually a subsidiary of paccar and has been since 1996. The paccar mx 13 engine is the evolution of the daf 1260 engine. The epa10 mx13 utilized the individual pumping units similar to the daf 1160.

Interesting comments from CAT regarding their filtration module and attempt to improve filtration quality. Aftermarket products like Micfil have been doing this for years and here in the UK, Micfil are beginning to work with CAT Finning for extra filtration.

I’m partial to the c15 and I hope cat will continue to make it in the future

the very 1st concern that pops into my mind is the strength & durability of the rotating assembly as well as the block considering that much horsepower out of a relatively small(er) displacement engine.

Enjoyed seeing it been been hearing about it

Time will tell,following. LOVE your content sir.

Let's hope that the bolts don't break off of the turbos like they did on those twin turbo units they had in the early 2000s!

Back in the day the 1693 had rear timing chest. The 3406 they moved the timing chest to the front for easier serviceability. So going backwards in that area. The cartridge style filters again cat used to have cleanable cartridge fuel filters so kinda going backwards there too. I would think in a truck configuration the scr and dpf will move to somewhere below the frame and not on top of the engine. I think this for 2 reasons. Clearance aka space constraints and heat. You really dont want all that heat under your hood

Another awesome video; however, today I replaced my chainsaws pull cord! Thanks for info and I'll be keeping my 3406

'new cartridge filter technology' means they mounted it upside down so it spills all over the place when you do a filter change. on the fuel side you get to spill it twice

Hi Josh, that was my destruction of the week. Its a paccar made engine and is a 13 litre, 530 horsepower

Sure to be reliable and easy to work on.

Speaking towards the longevity of MEUI injectors, My dad had a 5DS motor that had over 1.4 million miles on it before he replaced the injectors, and the only reason he replaced them was due to doing an in frame when it finally decided to drop a valve.

One thing I did not see was an EGR system that would be the extended oil change interval as well

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Great job Josh . I pray to God that will bring more people like you on this world. You love and enjoy this trade of the Diesel MECHANICS (not technicians) . About the new C13 D I think Cat did a great job bringing their engines on the 20 Century technology and it will be on top and ahead of any other Engine manufacturer . On all these common rails is a known fact that the HFPP is the silent killer of the engine if they don`t use high quality materials for the build on these pumps. Not all the operators take regularly oil samples when service these engines and this is a educational deficiency from the OEM producers . I am from EU and they have these engines on the road like 18 Years back and they have learn the lessons for North America this is fairly new it will fail as expected for new technology also the educational factor in using and maintaining it will be a big struggle as these folks are used with old engines that you pee in the fuel tank and they will still go .

I'm learned some stuff about cat motors thanks for the information cat is the best

One good thing about the cartridge filters is that they are easy to inspect... But that's it

Common rail by Cummins......they were proud of the fact that "It's the most complicated fuel system ever designed".

looks cool, Cat not having VGT is what took Cat out of the truck market in the first place.

I believe since early or mid 70s actually CAT has been producing the 3400 motors. Ohhhh they are great! Love a dirty old A block CAT, B block, V8 CAT, V12 Legends Rare

I would be genuinely impressed if modern day CAT engineers can even come up with such a spaceship of an engine. They’re just riding off the success of ye-olden engines.

i would love to see those 1k hour filters hold up on the dirt side.

250 is generally the "Severe Service" PM interval, a standard PM1/2 is 500 on the majority of machines. Yeah, MEUI is rock-solid. Their claims sound about as solid as Bosch's claims that the CP4 was an improvement on the CP3.

Nice, thank you for the information.

Looks like a mx13 painted yellow but the hp would be nice looking forward to trying one out

In my experience with vgt is they are often mis diagnosed as the actuator being the problem when it's the turbo itself .as you said it's a carbon environment and the veins stick and won't move.

You’re looking good 😊

Paccar suggests 60k miles (1,000 hrs) oil change interval in on road line haul operations. Crazy long interval in my opinion

Seems like MX13 but painted differently:)

I saw this engine at conexpo, on the other side of the wall they had a Perkins engine and it was the same engine

Will be interesting to see if they can actually get a reliable, compliant 690HP and 2360ft/lbs out of this engine in real world use. For marine use, maybe so, but if it finds its way into highway tractors that will be the real test. Those are some serious numbers mostly reserved for big displacement engines,15 and 16+ liter Cummins, Detroit and even Scania V8s, it will be pretty impressive if they can actually get those numbers out of a 13 liter.

Interesting. If you want 1000 hour service intervals, it isn't just a matter of more fuel filtering. You need more oil (bigger oil pan, or an external tank) and more oil filter capacity. In 3406 and C15 (which come with a single oil filter standard), with the use of some simple Cat parts meant for marine engines, you can have 2 or 3 oil filters working in parallel - each filter having half or one third the oil passing through it. How can you do that on this new engine? Looks like it will need major modifications. Looks like Cat reducing its market again, after giving up heavy haul trucks. Plenty of marine users of the 3406 needed the easy bolt-on arrangement of two oil filters with a lever to route the oil through one filter or the other - this lets you change the oil filters without shutting down the engine.

The new engine features a belt driven water pump integrated into what they call there fluid module for less leak points and easier servicing, along with hydraulic lifters so no need for valve lash adjustment.

If it can make 690hp reliably then it'll be great but that seems a lot to ask out of a 13 liter

That actually is a DAF (PACCAR). You can tell by the iron graphite block. I can tell by the plugs on the wire harness. Worked on a ton of those.

Thank for the video

I can tell you right away that this engine is going to have air distribution problems with the single external intake port being at the front of the head, and so the farther back cylinders are going to run hotter, and in the future after they have coolant temp issues in the back, probably leading to cooked liner seals and oil/coolant contamination, they'll have an updated cylinder head with another water port for the rear cylinders like the 3406B. They'd be much better off with the single external intake port being two without a divider to allow for pressure balancing, one for the front three and one for the rear three. Idk how I get this sense but I do have it

When i changed my transfer pump in my 2005 bxs c15,,i could see the ball bearings bathed in engine oil....hence oil lubes pump...love my c15 2 070,000 and kickin

That one piece fuel filter unit reminds me an awful lot of the Maxxforce units of the 2012-ish era

When this engine hit the hood phase, im buying some new trucks, my 2 NZ will still live the love they gotten from me. Gliders are out, so Western Dtar will hopefully have their orders in.

I guess they call them hydraulic lash adjusters because they adjust the valve lash using hydraulics. I dunno maybe the marketing folks got involved and needed a snazzy name to talk about. I guess my feeling is who cares as long as they work. Keep the good stuff coming.

That was the first thing I seen was the common rail high pressure system wow good way to get better performance higher fuel pressure better atomization of fuel well time will tell yay more to learn lol!!!!!

They should still build a C15D, lots of older generation truckers that can afford to buy newer trucks would avoid smaller engines. So they would be more likely to buy a x15 vs c13

Imagine how good a Cat engine could be with out emission BS. It can be done but not "compliant" 😁

Perkins has a new engine that is very similar if not identical, 13 liter, hydraulic lash adjustment, etc. Fuel rails look identical, rear gear train. bell housing is a little different.

I used to work on Sizu (AGCO) engines and we prefered belt driven waterpumps, those and EGR stuf were the only thing you'd need to worry about failing between 7000 and 15000 hours. I Always found gear driven waterpumps a risky undertaking.

Thx AA for an informative video of Cat's new engine, sooo is Cat going after OTR market again after walking away in '09.

7:11 Most other companies refer to the the unit that automatically adjusts the valve lash as HLAs. It's not a new term, just new to CAT. 🙂👍 Maybe CAT will become competitive again in the engine market with this emissions compliant engine... Our mining company stepped away from CAT underground machines a few years ago and moved exclusively to Sandvik to avoid the CAT machines. They run the big dumb 27lt in AD65, and the overstretched C15 in the R3000 loader. Neither machine competes well with the Sandvik machines with their tier 4 final Penta engines.

With all these new engines it's all about the emissions. The engines themselves are great, except international, but if you don't keep up on the aftertreatment stuff have fun after the warranty runs out.

I think it's funny we went from cartridge filters in the 30s-70s then spin on, now back to cartridges

Looks like Nylon fuel lines from Raytech or similar. Kinda like the ones Cummins had the melted fuel line issue (sticking TRV I think). Inverted canisters are great, but why not make these see-through so you can actually see the filter's condition? A polycarbonate is plenty tough for that purpose. Not sure if that's a Bosch pump or a Denso pump. The Denso HP0 is right at its limit of fueling if they want to push 690hp. The pump is good for about 750tops, and even then only if you drop the pressure from 2400bar down to 2000 to help the pump flow more. Rear gear makes a lot of sense when you consider the wicked torsional vibration a gear-driven HPCR pump can put into the drivetrain. You want the pump close to the mass of the flywheel if at all possible. Trying to drive the pump AFTER all the flex of the crankshaft (i.e. on the front) can cause problems with both the front geartrain and the pump. Rear gears are quieter, have less vibration and are smoother. Cummins had scissor gears on the front gears of the X15 in part because of the front-mounted pump and the vibration it pushed into the gears.

Seriously a canister oil or fuel filter mounted upside down Wile E. Coyote pure genius for fuel to spill everywhere vs a spin on filter mounted right side up so fuel or oil doesn't spill everywhere

It's very similar to the marine C12.9. I've worked on a yatch with twin C12.9 with 1000 mhp each one, and they also have a very good low end torque. And also, all manufactururers are going to small displacement engines with forced induction (the C12.9 have compound turbos and a supercharger and makes near to 60 PSI of boost)

Most rear gear train design was the old 1600 series, 1693, 1676, 1674. Not using a spin on fuel filters keeps people from prefilling the filter and causing early hour failure of contaminated fuel. Wonder what the max fuel psi is in the rail?

My Diesel mechanic instructor said that a cat engine is a throw away engine. Cummins and Detroit are keepers.

Hi, Thermo King were running up to 3000Hrs extended service interval 15yrs ago on engines 🤔

No EGR anymore and Commonrail. The exhaust aftertreatment system looks very modern to me since it seems to be an SCR CAT and a DPF directly in Series behind each other and the distance to the turbo outlet is short which is ideal. Hydraulic Lifters... not a huge fan of those in an industrial diesel they will wear out and collapse inevitably at some point but should be an easy fix to just drop a set of new Lifters in an engine like this. I'm not surprised that they brought these modernizations into this engine BUT regarding the Injectors it really depends on the design and the supplier how well they will hold up.

I love this!!!! But I still want a C15

Seems like a complicated engine, oh well I'll have to hang on to my 94 pete with c-model for a while longer

I hope to see something involving ducted fuel injection in the near future, supposed to be very efficient and adaptable.

Soon to be in every International truck because their engines need a lot of love.

I’ll just keep rebuilding my C12. ❤

Lash Adjusters is a term used on over head cam engines.

With the timing gears being in the back of the engine that’s on make it a more expensive repair

Heck yeah 👊🏻💪🏻

I find it interesting that caterpillar is moving ahead with this technology while auto manufacturers are being forced into EV, with some states banning sales of petroleum vehicles by 2030. So unless there’s something I don’t know about, this is telling me that battery power replacement for large constant horsepower applications such as OTR trucks, farm and construction equipment is no way close to being ready for that timeline…

I'm old and grouchy and don't like anything new.

I drive a 2021 Volvo VNL760 with 211k miles on the 12.8 engine. It make 450 hp and 1,750 lbs.-ft torque from 1000 rpm to 1,500 rpm. It pull harder from a light than the 2016 Freightliner DD15. It burn slightly more fuel pulling but on level ground. It get better mpg.

Looks like a Cummins engineer went to work for Cat 😊

Scania uses VGT turbos and i worked a year as a buss tech and we serviced around 100 busses and we didn't change any turbos. Also fun to see american engines actually get high horsepower engines. Still scania and volvo has 770 and 750 engines, but we pull more weight too.

Unless the secondary filter has a low micron filtration rating, I have my doubts 1000 hours will be the recommended interval.

I used to hate replacing the water pump belt on the old 3126 engines

Looks interesting. HLA is coined name by Eaton, number one maker of valvetrain components and valves. The JD 18L uses HLA. I see it as necessary step for cylinder deactivation for stringent emissions and GHG reductions. Oil module looks similar to Paccar one that is made by Mann Hummel. Fuel system looks a lot like the new Mahle filtration module with Delphi common rail. Turbo looks like Borg Warner style like used on Duramax L5Ps. Nice video Josh. Curious if CGI block, if liner is upper, mid bore, or lower flange style. Obviously overhead cam.

give me a mechanical engine to work on they are simple to work with and to figure out compared to a common rail engine they have so many more components to diagnose and replace. I agree with you Josh that meui injection is better in the fact that they work with less components unlike a heui injector that has oil and fuel but they are both a low pressure fuel system and better in my opinion for cost of repairs i just like the fact of being able to open a valve cover and running an overhead on the engine i can inspect the components and how they wear if any with hydraulic lifter you have no reason to open up the valve cover that means you have no idea how the components are behaving up there other than listening to it running but in the end i may be wrong and CAT may know something i don't i m kind of old style cheers and keep on the great work

Navistar just came out with an S13 and all the emissions stuff is handled in the one box down stream in the exhaust

I would like to take a look at the engine myself and the new ECM also the ECM available for the military for multi fuels

So if this engine actually hits it out of the ballpark will we ever see this between two frame frame rails of a semi truck that's all I would really like to know 👍