This video allowed me to send my Raspberry Pi 4 with RGB out to component in on my D Series. Not a lot of people out there running this solution but it looks great and it's dirt cheap! Thanks again man learning a lot from you
Thanks for this! I just got my R7 240A to hook this up to, was going to buy a retrotink RGB2COMP (I Think thats the correct one) Titan X Maxwell will do the processing and the R7 will handle the output on my RCA 20F514TD I just got. Love this CRT hobby
Highly recommend putting a straight zip tie between the side square holes of the SCART connector directly back to the Component outs where there are also holes in between the RCA jacks. Makes it so that when you pull the scart connector out that it is braced by the component connectors on the opposite side which transfer the pulling force to the top acrylic. Kind of hard to describe, but you essentially have the head of the zip tie at the component side with a short section of cut zip tie to hold it there and that looks like a "T". Then you just cut the head off of another zip tie and pull the tie tight going from the scart back to the component to secure and do that on each side.
Are you using this for RGB scart to component? I mostly play via PC emulators or mister, but if I could hook my older consoles up via composite for cheap then I'd like to at least get them hooked up that way.
That was hilarious at times, i had a good laugh. Thanks :) I went straight on and bought one of these, i use RGB on a big CRT projector for almost everything except rotated shooters, which i use a big Panasonic Tau Giga rear projection CRT that i lay on it's side. This will save me having to add the VGA input back into that set (was available in Europe apparently, but not here) It sure looks to me like it will easily be good enough for the job on a rear projection CRT, and for the sake of $33 Australian Dollars if it isn't, it's next to no money spent these days.
bought one of these, works well with my Amiga 500 NTSC with a buffered vga out, doesn't work with all TVs but when it does, it's beautiful, and most modern LCD TVs will deinterlace.
Was about to buy a Wakabavideo transcoder, but this has my interest (a 1/3rd the price, and offers a SCART, which I could potentially use for connecting my SNES, Genesis and Amiga!). Question is, will this work with GroovyMAME and the CRT emudriver to get 240p on my Sony KV-27FS12? (I already have a PC with Radeon card outputting 15 KHz). What's the video quality like, I saw some comments about rolling interference, what sounds like a video ground loop. Does yours do this?
I only tested it with my mister setup, i dismantled my crt emudriver setup a few years ago to use the pc in a arcade cab. Back when i had the crt emudriver setup I used an audio authority transcoder which seem to work the same as these new ones on aliexpress, but again I havnt tested personally.
Dude! Thanks so much, I have been pulling my hair in search for a decent YbPbR converter, I have an old DDR3 PC that I wanted to convert into a Emulator Station, but just like you I couldn't find a proper converter to 240p, every converter was always 480i, now this little awesome gadget will do the work to get that glorious 240p signal output for my retrogaming needs, I still conserve a Sony Triniton TV that used to be of my parents, this will bring so much joy, heck maybe I'll hunt for a Panasonic Tau or a LG Flatron TV on Facebook marketplace, since I feel Shadow Mask is better for any console from the SNES gen and below, and leave the aperture grill for Arcades, PSOne to Dreamcast, XBOX, PS2, GameCube and Wii.
Yeah, I have a tau and its nice. My favorite consumer tube is my 36" jvc I rgb modded. Fav pro tube is a tri dot panasonic btm1950. Sonys are nice but i love my mask tubes as well!
That transcoder is awesome in terms of quality vs. price 👍. It's excellent for those who can afford an old PC with Radeon 4000+/5000+/6000 and calamity radeon drivers with Windows 10 or use a Linux distro with a Nvidia Chipset Motherboard or a normal Motherboard with a Nvidia 8400GS PCI-Ex card (you can also use Nvidia 200+/300+/400+/500+/600+ cards but for that you would need "extra wide resolutions" to achieve minimum pixel clock to emit in 15Khz, like 512x224 instead of 256x224) 😉. I would love this gets worldwide spread so many retro gamers can play their arcade and 15KHz progressive scan console games like it was the original *plus* with a *crispy* image through Y/Pb/Pr (YUV) 🙂. I immediately subscribed. This video and your channel desserves more likes/subscribers. Hugs from Chile (South America, currently in fall in May in this part of the world 🥶)
Thanks for the kind words! I didnt realize the seasons were so different in southern hemisphere 😵 It makes total sense but never been there or really thought about it 😬 These cheap transcoders would be great for calamitys crtemudrivers, i had to hunt down a $100 Audio Authority transcoder from Turkey several years ago when I had a 15kHz pc setup because cheap teanscoders like these werent around. Glad we have options now.
@@SupremeODMGHmm, Windows 10 with "CRT Emudrivers" is your best chance at getting 15Khz. With Linux distros use Ubuntu with the "radeon" driver configured in /etc/Xorg.conf and with something like 30 modelines (resolutions) at 15Khz. Then it's just finding a good frontend for mame. I hope this helps. Greets from Chile, South America (March 28th here starting Fall, geting colder and cloudy)
Damn. I bought these so I could put my Dreamcast on a Arcade cabinet running a de-cased CRT TV. I couldn’t get the damn thing to work. Now I gotta try again swapping the colours around. Thanks!
Just remember if your putting 480p in then it will output 480p as well, so if you have a 15kHz tube it wont work unless your feeding it 480i from the dc
@@LameGaming works flawlessly, the difference in quality between composite and scart on the ps1 is enormous. Best part is the ps1 scart cable powers it. USB power is not required.
@@ShankMods Thanks bro! I havnt messed with my wii since getting mister and never looked into connecting it to a pc crt, that would be awesome! I have my pico boot for the gamecube but with work I havnt had the time to install so dont even know what I will display it to. Recently picked up a 25" Toshiba HD wideboy.... Cool size for a HD crt.... I plan to get the gamecube on it and see if it will laglessly pass a 480p signal in 540p mode and/or play with outputting a custom 540p modeline from mister to it but have so many projects ahead of that.
@@LameGaming what Toshiba is it? Some of the older earlier toshibas are dual scan, meaning they natively scan at 31kh and 33khz with no scaling or lag. 15khz signals are line doubled. The later Orion built models scale and lag
@@ShankMods Definitely a late model orion build.... 26hf84a Went out of town to grab a 20m2u,14m2u, and a bunch of 9" pvm/bvms from a buddy and lined up a free hitachi 36" curved hd multiformat presentation crt but when I got there it was gone. He had this little toshiba he said i could have so just took it. I read it had a low lag or no lag passthrough for 1080i and a setting in the service menu to do the same for 540p but havnt even plugged it in yet. Even if it sucks lagwise ill use for dvd's or something. Should be uploading a vid soon where its shown in it.
Thanks for the great video! Does it work with CRT EmuDriver? Looks like a couple of people in the comment section of the product page couldn't get it to work.
@Lame Gaming Just wanted to say great video! I'm looking at buying one of these, but I'm not 100% sure it will fit my use case... Do you know if I use it to connect to my dreamcast via either VGA or scart cable - will this work to output to an SD crt via component?
This is a passive device whatever frequency you put in is what you get out. Im pretty sure the dc vga port is strictly for 480p output, so no ... It wont downscale it to 480i or 240p. Now if the vga port can be set to output 480i or if you connect the transcoder through the av port of the dc at 480i then yes it would output a signal for a sd crt.
@@LameGaming Thank you - this works perfectly. Output 480i over scart into the transcoder (which doesn't need to be powered) then component into the SD crt. The dreamcast never looked so good. Never underestimate 480i on a high quality SD CRT everyone!!!! and ZERO latency!
i bought tbis and worked great for my japanese saturn but with my pal snes that has been modded it didnt work - produced an image that doubles/triples and skews as well. the snes is hooked up via the rgb scart sync over luma cable into the transcoder…..any help?
Hi! I have a French Atari 7800 with RGB SCART output. The picture flickers on my LCD TV. The image is correct only on TVs with an RGB SCART input that I tested. I'm thinking of buying this converter, connecting the Atari 7800 RGB SCART and having the converter give me a YpBPR signal, since my LCD TV has a YpBPR input. Is my reasoning wrong? I believe with this converter I will never see a flickering image again.
Not sure if that 7800 is ntsc or pal, the converter will only change the colorspace, it wont change the frequency or upscale the image. I would think an upscaler would be better for an lcd but this device is cheap so you could try
Hello, guy with THE voice...i think i have my answer, but wanted to ask anyways (cuz i dont know where else to go). If I'm wanting to play my Atari Jaguar on a regular normal flatscreen, this device wouldn't do much, right? I currently use composite for video, but i want to get an SCART adapter and an "upscaler" like this one...but it looks like I'll need a pricier RetroTink 2x or something.
I'v got a MSX Gradiente Expert that outputs RGB 15Khz via DIN, with an adapter that converts do VGA output, but the signal continues being 15Khz. Does this work for me to get the output to YPbPr in a compatible frequency to newer TVs?
i'm mostly interested in lag / latency: is there any? also in aliexpress, it says it only supports 480i and above. But the sega master system is 256x192 pixels (NTSC), so would it work? thanks!
Transcoders will not introduce any lag, they are just changing the colorspace. They handle 240p just fine. If your sending rgb out from the master system into the transcoder I assume it should work.
@@joelalainI know this is an old comment but just to clarify none of these things will ever admit they accept 240p because 240p isn't an actual resolution, it's just 480i with some trickery. So as long as the device you buy isn't doing image processing and is just transcoding or amplifying a given input signal it should not matter if it specified 240p support since if it has the bandwidth to take 480i it will take 240p fine. Just noting this since a lot of receivers/matrix switchers will also not show 240p in a list of supported resolutions and it tripped me up for a bit.
thanks for the info! do you have suggestion on vga to composite transcoder? people usually suggest wakabavideo's transcoder which i'm sure a good quality, but the price is a bit high, just looking for an alternative
Nice review! Mine came today from China, same as yours with the messed up Y/Pb/Pr label. At least the plug colors are right. Nice addition to any CRT setup, nice image quality for the price.
No, it was more to do with the way DACs work with the Mister. I got one of the recommended DAC's from Kuro's list and paired it with the MiSTer Direct Video to Component Adapter from Laserbear and that fixed the issue I was having. This RGB to Component video transcoder in your video did also work for me but It was a little dark.
This transcoder did work for me. The image did end up being a little dark on my HD CRT. I ended up getting the MiSTer Direct Video to Component Adapter from Laserbear Industries and I paired with the Icybox HDMI to VGA adapter and used direct video with the Mister and it worked great. Seems like the voltages coming out of the old MISTER I/O boards weren't great which seems to have been causing my specific issue. I hope this makes sense because I'm definitely not an expert when it comes to this stuff.
I’m planning on turning an old PC into a 240p emu-machine. Just got a 200-series R7 delivered a few days ago. It has DVI-I and DP ports. Which cable would I need to hook this transcoder up? Can a simple DVI to VGA adapter be used for that?
I ran an r9 380x with my old emudriver setup. dvi-i dual link carries analog so Yup just a simple dvi-i to vga adapter. Will you let me know how the transcoder works with your emudriver setup? I kind of want to build another lol. I have a guide in one of my older vids in the description but not sure if anything has changed ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Xp4sQlvCawo.html
nice product, I order mine, and when I hook up to the tv image is real good, but no audio, I connect audio jack to audio in on the adapter, and was output it there, weird
It would work but first you need to get your PC outputting 15kHz. You need an amd card like the r9 380x or older...one that still outputs analog, then you need to to install a custom video driver made by calamity called crt-emudriver. The pc will then output 240p rgb which you can use one of these transcoders to convert the signal to 240p ypbpr (component) Theres easier ways to do this with a downscaler but they will have varying amounts of lag
@@LameGaming hey thanks for responding, i have a gtx 970 lying around which can still output an analog signal through the dvi-i port. I was messing around with the nvidia control panel and i saw that i can get it to output 15khz. Would that work?
My CRT only has S-Video and regular RCA inputs, is there a converter that does s video that is similar or is there another lag free way to convert from this box to s-video signal?
Ive seen vga to svideo converters on amazon but never used or tested one. I dont know if mike chi has anything like this or not, I would check on retroRGB...im sure bob has an article or two on this.
Wonder how it compares to Retrotink RGB2COMP. It looks very good from what I'm seeing here. Tink is $85-ish with tax and shipping. This might be the Chinese knock off of it.
Mike makes great products but when things are cheap and work Ill go that route if the quality is good. No complaints from me on this transcoder. I do have a retrotink 2x pro and its great, waiting on the tink 4k but for a transcoder this worked fine
@@LameGaming I'm with ya. I almost pulled the trigger on Mike's, but money is tight and I was looking at different options. I seen your video (really not many on this product btw!) and after watching, pulled the trigger on it instead. I got mine on ebay though and paid $32 total so a little more. I just never ordered from Aliexpress before. Even though in the product description it doesn't specifically mention 240p, I'm glad you made a video showing it does. Thanks for sharing man! I'll definitely be watching the video on the desolder station you made. Something I want to get better at.
@@TheAlphaOmegaX3 Yeah I couldnt find a single word about the transcoder when I found em on aliexpress. Other cheap ones ive tried didnt work but figured id give it a shot. When It worked as good as my audio authority transcoder I wanted to get the word out.
Greetings my friend! I wanted to tell you that I was going to buy the retrotink rgb to comp but when I saw this video a few months ago I decided to go for this cheaper transcorder since you gave it a very good review and apparently it worked well for you. I built a pc to be able to emulate with calamity drivers but I got to know RGBUNTU and decided to use this system for crt emulation. It turns out that since I started testing the system, the transcorder adds a kind of noise to my image, specifically, they are horizontal lines that move like a cup of soda (very similar to when recording at 30 fps on a CRT screen) I thought that It could be the cable, so I bought a 5x5 retrovision hd cable and it gives me the same interference, I tried 3 different crts and the problem continues: c. I bought it from the same link you left in the description. could it be the transcorder the problem? I have not seen anyone else with this interference or in comments on aliexpress, or in comments from reviews on youtube.
Try another power cable? Or maybe its picking up interference from something... Could be faulty too I guess, did you look the board and solder joints over?
@@LameGaming Thank you very much for taking the time to read my comment friend. I saw your video about 3 times yesterday to analyze your setup and see differences with mine, it turns out that I always gave power to the transcorder through the usb that comes and connected it to a usb port of my 15khz pc and tried in different ports and always the same interference, until I saw that you connect it directly to the current with a samsung cell phone charger that is seen in the video. I tried doing that and I felt very stupid: c since it was solved in 80%! It is a very big advance since I spent a long time without understanding what it was due to, I thought they were the video cables. Even so, I couldn't find a cell phone charger like the Samsung you have. I tried with a usb port of my ps2 slim to see if it worked and there it looks 97% better, almost perfect. I will also check the solder joints as you mentioned but apparently the problems were the USB ports of my PC. Could you tell me the specifications of your Samsung charger? I have a 5V - 3A one and it doesn't look perfect, I tried another generic one I found and it's 5V - 0.85 A and that one looks a little better. I don't know if it would have to be 5V - 2A to make it look perfect.
@@martin-xi6oh I doubt the transcoder would draw any more than 1 amp but my charger is a samsung cell phone lightning charger that states 9v @ 1.67A -or- 5v @ 2A I would try any 5v 2A cell phone charger adapter, might try a different outlet too, could be interference noise on your mains line in that circuit
I bought this transcoder and it has the same problem as described by @martin-xi6oh. The noise is very noticeable on a bigger CRT (32"). I found that PC USB ports and phone chargers were horrible, while PS2 USB port and Raspberry Pi 4 PSU eliminated ~80% of the noise. It definitely needs a clean power source.
hi mate just have a question, what is the extron RGB amp for?, would it work just VGA right out of the mister IO board to VGA in on the Ali express transcoder?
The rgb distribution amp is just something I needed for my setup since I have like 8 tubes in the room, Its not needed for this transcoder at all, I should of mentioned that. Im curious why you would need it with mister though since mister can output ypbpr without the need of a transcoder.
@@LameGaming ok thanks yes I understand now, Im pretty sure you can just go from VGA to component with a VGA to component cable from the mister dire t to the CRT but one of my sets I'm not happy with the colour accuracy and this transcoder fixes the colour issue but letting me adjust individual colours. If I can adjust gamma settings with the mister I guess I wouldn't need it though?
@@danielnicholson6174 Yep, you can set mister to output ypbpr and just use a cheap passive vga to component cable from amazon. If your colors are off I would just throw 240p test suite on your mister, load the color bars and get in the service menu of the crt and adjust the color drive levels but yeah this might be a work around if you cant get into service menu for some reason
You would have to use an old AMD video card with analog output and use custom drivers to output a 15kHz 240p rgb signal out VGA. Then VGA to this transcoder, then it would work but its somewhat complicated to setup
I bought 2 from amazon niether worked for me for groovymame build. The computer works on my pvm and arcade but with this unit will not sync with any of my consumer crt tvs
I cant remember if you have to change HV sync to Csync or if its even possible to do so but when I was running crtemudriver and a transcoder I had issues at first but ended up figuring it out. I cant see these not working with crtemudriver since they worked fine with mister fpga
So u cant conect dc vga to crt because it is only a passive adapter? But if you use dreamcast scart to this adapter it will work ? I have a philips crt with rca and ypbpr but no svideo so im stuck with rca for the dc.. :(
I dont think this transcoder can take in 480p and put out 480i. The DC vga is 480p only so the transcoder would put out 480p ypbpr which a standard def crt cannot accept. If you can output 480i rgb from the DC av port then you would just need a DC scart cable and it should be good to go with this transcoder. I have only used my DC with vga to a pc crt so I havnt tested anything from the av port
@@gabnrami If the DC will output 480i scart from the av port then it should work. I havnt personally tested this as I dont have a scart cable for my dc and Im not super knowledgeable on the dc. Id ask on the dreamcast subreddit about the scart cable but I assume if the dc scart cable connects to the av port then it should be 480i and should work, i just cant say 100% it will work because I havnt tried it.
I used one of my audio authorities that way and they are essentially the same. Just keep in mind this only changes the colorspace, whatever kHz signal you feed it is whats going to come out
@@LameGaming Update, I'm using it with my onboard Intel GPU and GroovyArcade with RetroArch, works like a charm with my CRT tv. I would recommend this converter to anyone, the picture is beautiful.
It just transcodes whatever signal you feed it, If you put 480i in it will output 480i, 240p in- 240p out, 480p in- 480p out. If you want to output from computer to a crt then you need a crt that handles 480p or use crt-emudriver like in this video ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Xp4sQlvCawo.html
@@LameGaming SNES, I used my PS1 via SCART and it works fine. It somewhat works on my SNES but the image flickers and sometimes looses connection. I'm thinking it's the cable.
@@kamerynhaynes7076 Most crt's wont accept 480p.... Only 480i. Some HD crt sets will accept 480p but not natively which adds processing lag, depends which model you have. A pc vga crt is another option for using the DC vga output
@Lame Gaming oh snap! So then what would be the best method of playing the DC on a CRT in the most "HD" way as possible ? I have a Sony Trinitron KV XA29M30A
@@kamerynhaynes7076 Honestly DC looks fantastic on a VGA crt monitor in 480p, would definitely be worth grabbing a free one while you still can if you play DC alot. Thats the only way Ive used mine so not sure what your options are if you must use a standard def (15kHz) crt tv.... Probably av out port, if theres no compone t out with the av port then s-video is the next best option.
could i run a micro PC with VGA out into my D-Series component and play batocera in 240p? without having to do all the fiddling with the backend and crap in retroarch through SSH?
