New expose in Rafale scam - Abhijit Iyer-Mitra on Urban Chatterati 

I am regular on this channel, but today's talk was the smoothest.. brilliant insights from Abhijit as always..

By the way, does Defence purchases of Pakistan, US, China etc get openly debated like we seem to be doing!!! Even before we get an equipment, it seems the whole world knows about!!!

As I remember, IAF was very much fascinated with Mirage 2000 due to the strikes during Kargil war, In fact it was IAF incompetence that IAF later found out. a) Jaguar cannot be used in strikes in Kargil as they are not capable, b) They have MiG-29 but it is used only as air superiority plane, there are neither targeting pods nor A2G weapons. The plane, the weapons and training of MiG-29 Pilots were done for Air superiority role and not Multi role, and that time some Air forces were using MiG-29 as MRCA that shows that the top leadership of IAF lacked vision and were highly incompetent. In fact I would question entire IAF top leadership , even now (Rakesh Bhaduria) c) The 51 Mirage 2000 that we had in Gwalior were the only strike planes that were capable, but surprise. These were SFC planes, meant for Nuclear strike, and best part is that when IAF purchased them they were only purchased with short range Magic 2 missiles which in 90s were outdated. The Mirage 2000 did not have targeting pods that could be used for conducting strikes accurately,. thats when Israel came to help with their LITENING Pods which IAF was already using them in Jaguars. The French had refused to give source codes that would allow IAF to do it easily. Now IAF while hiding its incompetence, was trying to show off Mirage 2000 as heroic. If you want to see more of IAF incompetency, they wanted to order 126 Mirage 2000 to replace MiG-21, remember India was trying to develop Tejas this time but IAF was hell bent not to accept Tejas. so they wanted to add more Mirage 2000 as it was in service. Now, we had 51 Mirage 2000 and the French had already started to produce their Rafales, the Mirage 2000 line was closed, but the French were expecting order for Mirage 2000 because IAF was eager to buy Mirage 2000 and not Rafale. So there is some connivance between IAF top brass and Dassault, else why were Dassault wanting to keep Line open as they knew that IAF will push the govt of India for buying Mirage 2000. We know IAF often gives such statements. In fact when DM Parrikar had said that if they cannot get Rafale at their price, they will look at other planes, and that time ACM Raha had given statement to media, saying "India needs 200-250 Rafales to maintain edge: Arup Raha" www.livemint.com/Politics/hHJn9aQREtIMywf7pf81LP/India-needs-200250-Rafales-to-maintain-edge-Arup-Raha.html So when govt of India was trying to negotiate the price, IAF chief made irresponsible and not required statements trying to push for the deal at any price. Now the MRCA was required to replace Single seat MiG-21, so it becomes in a way logical for Tejas to be taken as thats what Tejas was for, but IAF started pushing for requirements for AESA radar etc etc, The Mirage 2000 they wanted, did not have AESA either. Coming back to the story IAF wanted 126 Mirage 2000 but when they gave the requirement, the present plane that Dassault was making was Mirage 2000-9 which was way different than what IAF was using, so, the defence Minister asked to make it a tendering process. IAF was ok, IAF give the ASQR in way that it should be easy for Mirage 2000 to win, but then there were many planes wanted to compete, Eurofighter came in with its Typhoon, SAAB with its Gripen. Lokheed with its F-16 Block 60, Boeing with its F/A-18 E/F RAC with its improved MiG-35. This was called MRCA and looking to buy and make 126 planes to replace the ageing Mig-21. Sukhoi wanted to enter with its Su-30MKI which India was using, but they wanted to stop Sukhoi from entering and they put a weight restriction, and thats where the word "Medium" came in. No airforce in the world talks about Light fighter, Medium fighter or heavy fighter, they talk about the role of plane, Long range strike, interceptor, Air dominance etc. Is F-35 called "Medium weight stealth" ?? No. that is not the criteria, the weight class is there for Transport vehicles. The Medium part was added by Air Marshall Bahadur (another sold out IAF top boss) Dassault was very comfortable that Mirage 2000 will win due to the price, but then with all the latest planes in competition, some of the IAF top brass asked Dassault to remove the Mirage 2000 entry and put in Rafale in its place. Thats how Rafale got it, in fact that should not have been allowed, yet it happened. Now IAF started changing its ideas to get Rafale to win, First it tried to remove American planes and planes with American components F-16, F-18 and SAAB were the casualty. They also removed MiG-35 as they said they are using MiG-29 which can be upgraded to MiG-35. Also in the "testing" they found the top performers were Rafale and Eurofighter. Now there was something more interesting, when the financial tender was opened, the Rafale bid was incomplete and should have been disqualified. The financial bid was incomplete and many points were assumed, this was done by then chiefl NAK Browne (another traitor) I can call NAK Browne a traitor, because he had also told the Cost negotiation committee (CNC) that the Swiss Piltaus trainer will be cheaper and the price will not rise, but the price had gone up, Further was was chief of IAF giving numbers, he does not represent Dassault or Pilatus, did he? Maybe he did. forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewtopic.php?t=6343&start=2280 So it was NAK Browne who was giving some assumed figures to CNC so that the Dassault financial bid could be completed, few members of CNC signed the bid but also put their objections about the assumptions of numbers. So just to give and example, Dassault would give US$ 60 million for a plane, Eurofighter gives price of US$ 65 million, but then India has to buy the engines for Rafale separately, and that would cost 10 million extra. So if you look at plane by plane bid, Rafale bid was higher than Eurofigher financial bid as Dassault bid was incomplete, and NAK Browne gave his "own numbers" so that the Rafale would be L1, this shows the corruption at highest level of IAF (air chief no less) who is giving fake nos to fix the deal for Rafale. In fact just after he retired, he was sent to norway as Ambassador. The cost of the LINE would be almost 1 billion dollars, Also the cost of producing in India was 2.7 times the cost due to training etc, so how could 126 planes out of which only 18 to be produced in France be 10 billion, Fly off cost of Rafale was US$ 75 million (lowest) so to take the cost US$ 75M per plane X 18 made in france, US$ 1.35 billion US$ 75M X 2.7 (ToT & increased cost of production etc) X 118 planes US$ 23.895 billion US$ 1 billion cost of setting up line in India. The congress deal was going to be US$ 26.245 billion, where as Congress had said it would be US$ 10 billion And yes, all this was flyway, there are no missiles or weapons in this package, that is extra. Also no spares. IF you consider the cost of these 126 planes that is US$ 208 per plane, without weapons or spares Modi deal is considered at US$ 8.7 billion, in this there are US$ 1.5 billion for India specific enhancements, please note, Also missiles (Meteor, SCALP etc) also there are spares for 5 years. Spares are about 5% of cost of plane per year, so for 5 years thats about 25% So if we try to compare apples to apples US$ 8.7 billion (€ 7.8 billion) cost of planes Unit price US$ 241 million per plane Cost of Weapons, € 710 million Cost of spares, and logicstics for 5 years (PBL) € 353 million Thus the logistics and weapon package itself is € 1 billion which was not in UPA deal at all. so its about € 6.8 for the planes Also reduce the price of India specific enhancements which were not part of UPA deal discussions, so the plane costs come to € 5.8 for 36 planes that comes to € 161 million

Sukhois were not used in balakot because they have a higher radar cross section. Also remember Sukhois successfully evaded AMRAMs and it was Mig 21 that shot down an F 16 not a mirage.

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_Most people don't know that the AIM series of Arial Interceptor Missiles used by US & NATO such as the AIM 7 Sparrow, AIM 9 Sidewinder & AIM 120 AMRAAM are all named after_ *Abhijeet Iyer Mitra*

fun fact: India's highest FDI came from Singapore, then the USA and then Mauritius in 3rd place. Not first.

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Always a pleasure listening to AIM Guy is a storehouse of knowledge whether it is History or GeoPolitics

' It tells you the kind of shit that passes off as journalism today ' best line .

Very smooth insights indeed !!

Q:Why Mirage was used not Su-30? Ans: Spice bombs used are integrated only with Mirage.

AIM If you are reading this THANKS FOR BREAKING SILOS IN MY BRAIN

AP n AIM nice show . 👌 n eye-opener to many of us layman.

Abhijit is so brilliant.

There hasn't been a duo more iconic. Change my mind.

need a talk on theatre commands and military modernisation by abhijit asap

Brilliant Abhijeet 😃😃👏👏❤️

Very well articulated, Avijit! Thnx

Abhijit. You are truly Brilliant.

Legends are born.true in case of resp abhijeet sir.great work sir

Both are Golu Molu 😁

Rafel case already closed and keep Honorable Supreme Court already gave the verdict and in vaccine case the Brazil government had to come clean. As a Congress paid journalists you want to give more hype to this bizzare issue

AIM’s left eye looks smaller. I hope he is doing well or perhaps going through emotional stress.

Golu Molu are back ❤️

JAI shree RAM

Great 🙏

The dead silence of Aravind Kejrival & Owaisi to Rafel speaks AAP = BJP Pro Max AIMIM = BJP Side Chick 🤣🤣

The IAF would have been in a far better shape today if we had 160 mirage 2000's by going in for the original Mirage 2000 deal. They're the only fighters in the IAF apart from Rafale in which all components work smoothly and are well integrated.

I totally agree with Abheejit that BJP should form a JPC to investigate Rafael deal and expose congress throughly.

Abijith Fantastic as usual 👍🏻

Superb commentary as always from Abhijit.

Excellent

Brilliant N RAM school of journalism.

AIM is love ❤️

Can we have a dedicated talk with abhijeet about the theatre command stuff that he left in the cliffhanger.

..what a beautiful conversation. 💕 I actually disagree with one point by Mr. Iyer-Mitra here, the CDS is definitely going to flex, just to assert chain of command - this'll rustle the status-quoists, this's game-theoretically true (and I doubt that Abhijeet would not know this). If the CDS results in the furthering of synergistic operations between the govt. & all the arms of Indian Defense, this'll be highly beneficial for all, wouldn't it? There's now an extra responsible agent (person). In the face of chaos, what happens if we never try, if we stay stuck in a system that has historically suffered corruption? I'd be delighted to hear Mr. Iyer-Mitra's take on this, surely this can't be bad without even a trial..?

Best part apart from the details was - Rahul Gandhi will be like Yechuri not able to get elected to Rajya Sabha and Priyanka like Brinda Karat on NDTV for the daily debates....

I'm supporting Abhijit's Thejas argument , a large order of tejas will benefit in many ways

Abhijit cuts through all the pleasantries and comes bang on target

Superbly explained by AIM

Hey Abhijit, where's the "vel vel vetrivel"?

Abijit Iyer Mitra 👌👌👌👍

The problem is any corruption revelation on Rafale even by Congress will ban Rafale and Dassault company from further contest That's what congress actually wants

A French Judge is investigating. Wait and see!! We will have plenty of surprises!!

I love Abhinav's channel..very intelligent and informative like Bhau and Harshvardhan Tripathi 's channel.

Where is AIM’s wig? That wig was looking super cute on him.😹

Bobobo . Good stuff .

Hey is there a column that Abhijit writes, cud someone plz tell me?? Love his analysis, straight to the point.

Only authentic news here, trust you!

AIMs remarks on CDS did not age very well

The problem with su 30 is that its an air superiority fighter, no matter how much they can claim its multi role functions it was designed as and interceptor. The problem with mirage 2k is that it is an excellent ground attack plane but not multirole.

Bofors played a crucial role in the Kargil war.... Rafale will play an important role against Chinese aggression.... If I need my team to win a competition, I would pay/bribe our trainer if he wants to tell us more. I know it's a bit nasty job, but at least my teams gonna be saved, as it is important......

Please bring BHARAT KARNAD Sir on this show💯🔥 an absolute genius defence analyst 🇮🇳🇮🇳

Modi if he does 'scam' too, it will be for the people of India and we love him. Still I will vote for him.

The so called defense expert please tell why BJP told they don't have document's of rafale price. The person who didn't make a single plane was given the deal.Fact is France sold 4th gen jet at 5th gen f35 price!!!!

yes i agree order 600-700 tejas and make some 100 submarines rather than AC.. AC will bleed money...

Let's also look into Sonia's past in the UK, how she came in contact with Rajiv, the Quatrrochi connection, Vadra's handicraft business...Open the can of worms

Endurance of LCAs / Tejas is an issue that might get some answers on MkII variant. Instead we should be focussing on importing aircraft engines and rest like design, electrical electronics and manufacturing etc to be done domestically. Having said that, we need to invest heavily in metallurgy to attain it.

Thanks god blessing, kangress is doomed and out of commission, hopefully for good!...🙏

it has to be mentioned in such a high profile contract

Abhinav, time for some Intro and outro sequence ? Its like a high quality patty, but there are no buns to hold them together. Food for thought. Pun not intended.

Congress is finally beginning to behave like Chatur from 3 Idiots. If they can't do any good, they try to make sure others don't get the chance to do anything....

First all the fighters to be delivered. Then investigation. Remember agusta westland case.

Dam India have too much politician!

Dhruv rathee - propaganda Abhinav Prakash - facts

An investigation by a SC Judge may not be fair. The Judiciary no longer enjoys the respect

Jai Hind

We should donate aim a good microphone in national interest also a good internet connection 🙏

Abhijeet 👍👍👍

INC, N.Ram, Susan Gupta are really the beneficiaries of kickbacks and should be punished.

But the question is can HAL make 500-600 tejas, the problem is not with the airplane design its with the manufacturing. if you remember clearly Rafael was imported because Dassault refused to take liability of HAL manufactured aircrafts.

Thank you for your detailed information, but what will it take to boot out The" Thugs of Airforce ". Every government department has got mole, I wonder at times was independence must for India, or was it better with the British.

I hope things are as simple as Abhijit made out to be.

No idea what he is talking about Sukhoi and mirage 😂😂😂😂😂

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Can I get heart from Abhinav Prakash ? I'm a regular subscriber of this channel :)

Golu and Molu 😎

Idhar bhi net hag eaha hai AIM ka🤦🤣

Cds should accumulate things according to our air,navy,army chief...not cast aspersions from here and there

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"Exposé"

6:12 Banda samajh gaya....ae......🤣🤣😂😂😂😉😉😂✋✋

Well Sukhoi are not useful for striking 40-50 odd kms plus the huge RCS means su-30 lights up on even outdated radar. For deep strikes in ch na we'll be using sukhois. Also there's no logic in making 600 tejas of the current type rather an evolved Tejas that is more capable and integrated. Problem is R&D right now the bureaucracy is not in mood to let this aircraft be built. For sake of it, Gen Bipin Rawat should not make public comments. He is making a mess only

Watched it till 7:36 min mark. As soon as I heard 49% stake for Dassault with 100 million & 51% stake for Ambani with 10 million, without even expert knowledge on the subject I knew the cost of land & other stuff is being not spoken about. Masses need to develope brain 🧠 power to think & avoid being spoon fed & that is what colonial-leftist-feminst education system suffocates from childhood.

I hope this model maker was from UPA era

I dont agree that just an escalation means corruption. Normally in long lead time high value contracts a mutually agreed escalation clause may also be incorporated . Secondly supposing you contract for say 36 numbers of an equipment and the delivery is spread over say 10 years or more, one can always factor in the incorporation of the subsequent technological improvements which happen during the process. It is just like upgrading a software after you have bought it with the cost factors for the incremental improvements done in a version upgrade .

AIM has clarified the real issue very well. About CDS remarks on air force, I feel he is being quoted out of context, though there is no need to talk in the public on this issue until final decision is taken. CDS must not talk unnecessarily and for scoring cheap points. He can be loose when he talks about Pakistan or China.

I disagree with AIM about not buying more Rafales look realistically even if we order 180+ Aircraft in single go they will enter service by 2038 or later current rate of production is not even 8 but as per HAL they will achieve 16 annually We are not US we don't have capabilities to mass produce like US 100+ Aircrafts annually our supply chain is not mature enough Even China can't match that pace now another thing is giving to much big order is not feasibile for IAF right now until we make our Tejas Good enough or matching capabilities of Rafale completely. Our enemies are inducting J20 in huge no. We have to induct 300+ tejas and then move on to Amca & Tedbf and midst of this process we cant trade our capabilities so to fill this gap we need 90+ Rafales to fill vaccume.

India must buy 36 more Rafael and few bombers and then settle down with Tejas and AMCA. TEJAS is a very good fighter plane and so as AMCA going to be. With our vast array of missiles coupled with AESA radar and forthcoming Laser/Direct energy weapons, indigenous aircraft would be a lethal platform albeit it would take 5 to 6 years that's why 36 more Rafael. Wing Commander S K Agnihotri Retd.

I hope you do a video on agusta westland scam next time

Very amusing the way Desi Kim Jong on the right keeps nodding to smart baldie on the left - like he is his adorable lap puppy !! But on a serious note - People in love have been known to do worst haven't they ??

Neumann .

CHOR KI DAADHI ME TINKA DAAL DIYA HAI FRANCE JUDICIARY NE 😂😂😂

16:08 Abijeet sir..😡😡😠😠 Agar aur Rafael mangwaye tho mai atma hatya krlunga just go for 400-500 gripens &F-18s

Abhinav sir, kitne cuts maare hain video mai? The edits are blatantly apparent.

Congress has always been soft for killers of PM post hoders. Sonia and family met with killers of Rajive Gandhi in jail.What if they are soft for Stens Sami?

god! the misinformation, its like everybody who likes to lie, becomes a journalist

This guy needs Z security

Jai Mata di.