Speaking over music started in Africa. I’ve got loads of traditional African music, including highlife music. Furthermore, when it comes to Western culture, it’s the Jamaicans who started speaking over music. It was called dub music, and there were so many diss tracks between the likes of I Roy, U Roy, Big Youth, etc. It makes my blood boil when Americans want to claim everything. It shows how insular they are. Jamaica, yes, the small island, is a powerhouse in music, culture, and dance. In my opinion, so much of its culture has been appropriated by African Americans.
They don't know FBA History. That's part of the problem. They just came here for the benefits of our struggle and our fight with oppression for rights --that these immigrants have access too. The immigrants have no idea how much intellectual property , physical property and inventions that were stolen from FBA. But maybe that doesn't matter either.
Im not gonna say that hip hop isnt mainly african american., because it is. Just dont erase Puerto Ricans contribution to the genre weve been ur allies in the scene not only hip hop but the black panthers as well
@@jamaalrobinson name a dish blake people invented. Mexicans are one of the oldest societies with a rich patrimony to society like the pyramids, their food and traditions. That’s on civilization you can’t f with. The only awesome thing about Afrikaa is Egyptians but they are nother race.
@Philthy.mcguyver310 who promotes that? Blacks don't run FOX CBS or radio. Blacks don't run PR firms,Blacks don't put Sexxy red un million dollar commercials and we don't have tv studios who run these ads
@@GregLucas-pv8nm I never seen a sexy red commercial or fox promote rap or drill music …. I see these people create there own platforms on RU-vid and promote there own culture …. I seen fox talk about Taylor swift flying everywhere never seen lil durk on fox or sexy red 🤣
We left 137th Street in Harlem and moved to 1526 Sedgwick Avenue. I was 15 and that was 50 years ago this year and I went next door to 1520 Sedgwick Avenue and DJ. Kool Herc's parties with my sister, Cynthia, nephew Clifton and my baby daddy "Crazy" Clayton. Aaaahhhhh memories. If you know, you know. Hey Tariq!
Thank You Mr. Nasheed For Representing The "FBA" Citizens. We Adore You Appreciate You And Your Crew. Keep Up The Fantastic Work and "FBA" Citizens Are Behind You 💯.👍
Busy Bee actually wasn't there when Kool Moe Dee did that. He just did it at a location that Busy Bee would perform at occasionally. However Busy Bee wasn't in the Harlem World at the time Kool Moe Dee rocked that rhyme, nobody says that part of the story because it would minimize the actual thrill that comes with two MC's battling. This is why you never heard a response from Busy Bee that night, he wasn't even in the building. When you get a chance ask Busy Bee! The actual Harlem World transitioned into stores, once even a Conway Store.
Speaking over music started in Africa. I’ve got loads of traditional African music, including highlife music. Furthermore, when it comes to Western culture, it’s the Jamaicans who started speaking over music. It was called dub music, and there were so many diss tracks between the likes of I Roy, U Roy, Big Youth, etc. It makes my blood boil when Americans want to claim everything. It shows how insular they are. Jamaica, yes, the small island, is a powerhouse in music, culture, and dance. In my opinion, so much of its culture has been appropriated by African Americans.
All you have to do is ask major Ai chatbots like Perplexity Ai or Chatgpt "Which classification of people or heritage group in the U.S. has had the greatest foundational influence on American music up until present?" and you will get the obvious answer. The problem is that the U.S. gov has purposely distorted the identity of Indigenous "Black" Americans and have placed foreign people in America under the term "Black" or have been wrongly using the term "African American" for Indigenous Black Americans to destroy their Original American identity. This must and will stop. This is why Indigenous Black Americans are distinguishing themselves from people of foreign origin. They, as a people, are the creators of Everything American, in general, not only Hip-Hop. They are the Original Americans, hence the Foundation.
@spotted_salamander this is very true, they want to keep us from having an identity. They knew that if we have no identity then there is no real blame to place on anyone for the misdeeds that we have experienced & continue to experience. They need to get over it because we do have an identity & hip hop belongs to the Black Americans that birthed it, from the beginning to & through the lineage
As a former child of the South Bronx, during the 60’s and 70’s. I was in the parks and saw this first hand. Priceless experience! I’m proud to say I’m from the Boogie Down Bronx.
@@dennistaylor6342 I believe it for real and it's sad cause peurto Ricans and Caribbeans didn't want to associate with black Americans at first now they saying they they helped up and whoever not from New York can't speak on it
@@JamalJewell you make a good point. And when hip hop first jumped off, trust me it was all black. Nobody thought it would last. I remember my college roommate saying that. Like I said I was there at the time. I lived in those streets. And what most people don’t know… when it comes to break dancing. Now an Olympic sport by the way. Some of the black Gangs were the organizers. Example the Black Spades ♠️ had the Spade dance. Which was the birth of breaking in the Bronx. If you know you know.
History is one of the most vulnerable studies on earth. The slightest tweak, a missed step , an error in timeline can send it in the wrong direction quick! The most difficult issue is definition. What do you mean by hip hop ? The term came way later. Way after the foundations were in place. Ambiguous terms solve no cases. You can’t pin a thing down if the definition is subject to the opinion of the storyteller. “What is water?” Everyone knows the answer and hardly anyone is wrong because water is not debatable . We gotta work on a unified definition and take it from there.
Grandmaster Flowers did Graffiti, Deejaying, & MC-Ing in Brooklyn in the late 60's. He was the first to perform at a Club on Flatbush Avenue & Prospect Place called "The New World" adjacent to the original Carlton Movie Theater. Flash actually got the Grandmaster in his name from Grandmaster Flowers... There will be a need for a part two of this brilliant movie documentary.
Since the universe is not eternal (scientist used to believe that), then everything had a first! A before and after. So who did what first can be known! “Who created hip hop” is really a trick question. Because all the elements didn’t come into existence at the same time. Let’s try to break down the timeline (get the timeline wrong and the origins can’t be right. It’s impossible !) 1- Bronx urban socialization. (Hip hop was born in the Bronx.) NOWHERE ELSE! 2-Music and parties. (One turntable played the 2.50 minute song to the end. Then you danced to another one.) 3- Heavily populated environments. (15 kids from one block would go to parties on another block 1/2 mile away . Make new friends, form new bonds. But doing it how we did it in the Bronx. Not Harlem, queens, Brooklyn of Staten Island. The culture went viral in the Bronx before it left the Bronx. So you gotta study that. This may sound controversial now but back in the day it was common knowledge… Puerto Ricans were the new guys on the block! They had 3 cultures to emulate. Black culture White culture Puerto Rican culture. (Aka the culture that their parents came to the Bronx with.) The Bronx was first white (European)… Then Black (southern, Caribbean) Then Latin (Majority Puerto Rican over other Latin groups.) Everybody survived and either did like their parents or broke away an became native Bronx New Yorkers. So in the very beginning Latinos were spectators to the black American experience. Still, over time, they obviously contributed to Bronx culture. (Some blacks even assimilated to Puerto Rican culture!) It’s just life. It’s how it works. Did Puerto Ricans help create hip-hop? Yes! They helped . Their first big contribution was taking breakdancing beyond the bridges of the Bronx. Rappin came later. DJing came sooner! The trick to solve is “what do YOU mean by hip hop?” Get that right and everything flows and everyone gets their just due. “Cmon man it’s not about race!” Really? In this country? Let’s not fool ourselves. You can’t “Not trip” on race yet get your facts wrong and say it ain’t about race. A Lamborghini is an Italian race car. If I said it was invented by the French, I would be wrong. Hip-hop is the black man’s Lamborghini. We invented it. All aspects of it. Then other groups contributed.
Don't forget hip hop was Started From a man from Jamaica who came to New York I need Jamaica that started all that MC originate from Jamaica even the Dancers they got in Jamaica no way you're coming from
She only wanted to focus on the negativity and not the overwhelmingly positives about hip hop. Also Mr. Nasheed is pushing a particularly biased agenda. I strongly suggest hip hop fans watch the documentary 'FOUNDING FATHERS: THE UNTOLD STORY OF HIP HOP' which is the true story of where and how it all actually began...
🤔Speaking over music started in Africa. I’ve got loads of traditional African music, including highlife music. Furthermore, when it comes to Western culture, it’s the Jamaicans who started speaking over music. It was called dub music, and there were so many diss tracks between the likes of I Roy, U Roy, Big Youth, etc. It makes my blood boil when Americans want to claim everything. It shows how insular they are. Jamaica, yes, the small island, is a powerhouse in music, culture, and dance. In my opinion, so much of its culture has been appropriated by African Americans.
We never listened to Jamaican music nobody I know can tell you one Jamaican artist…. Only artist we know about in Jamaica is Bob Marley…. We don’t subscribe to Jamaica out here like that my guy….
@@Bigbaggzceo The guy in the interview mentioned the first dis track was hip hop and speaking over music was invented in the Bronx. This is a total lie. Jamaica music isn’t only reggae. There’s ska, culture, roots, dub, dance hall, lovers rock, ragga etc. Some pioneered in the UK by Caribbean immigrants. Hip-hop originated in the Bronx area of New York in the 1970s. Its vocal origins lie in the Jamaican 'toasting' tradition. Toasting is a cross between talking and rhythmic chanting which was originally practised by Jamaican MCs and that’s a fact. They had huge sound systems and actively took part in a sound clash. It’s all out there on the internet. Even Buster Rhymes, African Bombata etc have admitted so. Furthermore, at the time, there was a huge Jamaican immigrant population in the Bronx. When I was a child, way before the inception of Hip Hop, I listen to MC’s toasting. Please educate yourself, you can learn so much.
Crazy Legs knows the real history he spoke about facts thah people dont know he sp ok ke about it on Drink Champs. Plus Graffiti Art was around way before Rap so Graffiti strated Hip Hol not a Dj stop lying to these kids
Next up should, hopefully be an interview of Dr. Umar Johnson. The actual origins of the genre and sub culture are the 1977 New York blackouts and ensuing mass looting. Many of those looting victims were small stereo businesses electronic stores were gutted in the ensuing riots. Soon there after house parties started popping up with multiple turntables, microphones, loudspeakers, new equipment, etc. Then, soon after that, Sugarhill gang steals the drum rhythm breakdown of a Nile, Rogers, Bernard Edwards Chic song for Sugarhill's 'Rapper's Delight'. Hey, all this is actual researchable history, which it should be researched, before it's much of it is gone. That's the real 'hidden' history that can't be revised, yet. Accurate history indicates that genre that was founded on theft and criminally. That’s why a few decades later detrimental street gang subculture started being glorified and accepted in the genre in the form of 'gangstarap'. And who is primarily targeted by the hip hop as an audience and for culture adoption with its "values" and attitudes, behavior and the mentality that comes with it? Children. Kids. Look at how the 'historian' actually celebrates vandalism, graffiti. Are the LA graffiti towers something to be proud of? One can observe that had by that time become a vehicle for ideologies that do more harm than good. Therefore a vehicle for political conditioning method through 'music' through culture, because it’s so pervasive. Think of it also as like 'J-lo' or the Kardashians, no one like them. Who buys their stuff? Makes them extremely wealthy from what appears to be no real discernible talent. Yet, they've become ubiquitous representations of something. People don't. When they hold events, concert tours, etc. tickets don't sell. Corporate entities buy their stuff. Same thing. Why is it so popular? There's your answer. Which leads me to this last one; you know how even old-school people say oh man what happened to music?! When they listen to a great old school jam? Well, the answer is clear. HIP-HOP.
Thats not the origins. The blackouts just gave more people opportunities to participate by throwing their own parties and learn how to dj because now they had the equipment.
@@mackl8305 ... because much of the equipment was ... STOLEN. Opportunities to participate in what exactly? The 1977 New York Blackout was a disaster which caused mass looting.
Lies the culture started 69-70. You guys just hadn’t joined in yet. Stop lying on our legends like DJ Hollywood, James Brown, Clude Stubblefield, Grandmaster Flower etc.
This dude is a visitor in the hip hop culture, it’s always amazes me how people that aren’t or weren’t there. He sounds like a colonizer. Make your money brother.
Modern Grafitti started in Brooklyn Not Cornbread from Philly in the Coney island Train Yards 70s...Go watch the 1st Grafitti Movie Dreams Dont Die with Paul Winfield 🎶💥💯💥🎶
