NEW INFO Ghost Recon LEAK Makes For HUGE Changes To The Franchise | My Opinion | Lets Discuss 

Would be sweet

That would be what a good AAA company would do. It existed in the first two RS game. It existed in 3 of the GR games. Ubisoft was good back then, though.

@@Go_CoupYes, that’s what a good company would do. So Ubisoft won’t be doing that.

@@justinschraeder8924Yeah…this sucks.

@@justinschraeder8924things is we already have seige ,cod, and wayyy other fps games out there , it’s look way too many fps games , and besides ion want to play pve in fps , fps is for PvP

I wouldn’t mind it at all

Absolutely agreed on this one 😊

Whats the point in wearing backpacks and rigs that dont allow you to carry more equipment? GR was never about playing dressups, it was about tactical gameplay that required more than one brain cell. You can play fallout or skyrim if you want to stare at the back of a characters head.

@@jeckek9936 if I want a good first person I play ready or not or Arma there are enough tactical first person shooter

Lmfao 😂

Me too. I thought for sure that would be the best way to evolve the series

This.

Exactly

Same.

I don't think the micro-transactions are the reason given how the series has been third person since the Advanced Warfighter games, but they're definitely an incentive to keep the games third person. Personally, even though my favourite is one of the third person games (Future Soldier, the goat imo) I do like the OG first person games and I wouldn't mind a return to that kind of gameplay. I definitely agree about commanding your squad though, I really hope that makes a comeback.

On the PC, which I use, Advanced Warfighter series had first person. However, regardless of one's platform, in those days AFAIA micro-transactions weren't really part of the marketing strategy for video-gaming to increase revenue. Given Future Soldier didn't have micro-transactions, IIRC and was indeed third person, I think I should have phrased it as "... for them to continue the GR series as a third person ..." I also prefer the FP view over TP for a shooter, and can only hope the studio learns from the negative feedback it received from Wildlands and Breakpoint as it related to the lack of meaningful control of your AI squad. That will be deciding factor for me, regardless of FP or TP.

Prob less time to develop things.

@@GmoneyMozart And that's the problem they keep doing with all their games. Not taking that extra time and effort to polish it.

Agreed Both would be good

They choose FPS just like every other company does because it’s lazy. They won’t have to animate a sprite on screen. They saw the success of the recent Robocop game and how people just accepted that you can’t see him in action, just his hand and gun like COD. What’s the effing point of making a Robocop game where you can only see him in cutscenes you can’t control? I might as well watch the films and television series for all that. LMFAO. But, the real reason IMHO is they’re trying desperately to get that COD fanbase with their Ghost War mode which will be the files they saved from Frontlines. I’m convinced that just like the horrible MCU writers, they don’t like Ghost Recon and are not only chasing trends, but promoting whatever else has nothing to do with Ghost Recon. Pitiful. 🤦🏾‍♂️🤡😭

We’ll see bro.

Hopefully there’s both a FPS and TPS option or mode.

Better not be a far cry clone

​@@ZePacifistait will be they like to copy and paste

Hell no bring back 3rd person

It’s not necessarily about seeing equipment but I ain’t going lie that third person is freakin cool to play in and sort of takes away from actual 1:1 real life immersion but idc I still really love third person and can still be tactical and fun for all of us especially if they give us host parameters and restrictions maybe you want set up server that’s 1st person only or third only or both 3rd/1st server this would be helpful because I’m not really bias towards either perspective I see the perks in both. Third person is just easier on the eyes too and being able to kick back and over view the battle while still be able to fight like have you ever played 1st person for a long periods of time and need to stop because your eyes are tired of being in 1st person fov box but you still want to game which is why GR needs to have both 3rd/1st because you’d have the best of both worlds it’ll just take a lot more work still possible and reasonable to bring in third person audiences like the fallout, gear of war and saints row audiences who enjoy third person it’s more money for Ubisoft that’s a reasonable upgrade to gameplay. As for reflections that would be dope asf tbh like more mirrors we can see ourselves but like you said is it even possible w the technology and is Ubi even willing to put that much effort into innovation. I really hope that we all can enjoy this new game. Good day to you ghost.

Ya…tough

Haha nice

Ya too bad we will have another fps now. Sucks imo. I’m not really excited.

It could still change if enough people complain about it. Always a possibility. ​@@GmoneyMozart

@@edde333Let’s sign a petition/pledge to boycott this game if it’s just FPS. Hit em in their wallets and see how they scramble to make the game we want.

@@trealsteve No problem. Send me the link to it. I am in the discord. 🙏🏻

Ya if you’re a fan of third person games then this is pretty bad news.

💯👏🏾🎯

Another first person game for the industry…🤷🏻‍♂️

@@GmoneyMozart I saw your video the other about third person and first person, and I agree with you. Immersion does not necessarily mean first person Being able to see your character and around you let's you have a lot more visual immersion since you have a better understanding of your surroundings, also seeing your characters outfit and the way movement it flowing Granted though that ghost recon first came out in first person....but it matured kind of alright in third....so third person should stay

That would be the obvious choice.

@Go_Coup you'd think that. But with AAA games being embarrassed by indie games as of late you never know. 🤔

Prob development costs

There are none unfortunately

This will end the third person tac shooter genre as we know it especially for console gamers. You will have to wait for action adventure games like TLOU or the new Bond game IO interactive is making. Things like that.

@@ASQDGAMING I know Bro

@@GmoneyMozart 😥

@@ASQDGAMINGDammit.

Ya I think for ghost recon the “gods eye view” along with the OG cover based system is what made it stand out. Providing the player the ability to command troops and move around and shoot precisely along with the play style excelled in 3rd. And as a 3rd person fan, this is what I’m accustomed to and enjoy about the series. But after the mods I don’t know why the team didn’t think to implement both views. At this point you have to just assume they want to reach a different player base.

It’s also lazy game design.

Dude what??? I see what your saying but nobody wants to play this pve in fps only , you can literally play 1000s of other games with fps , ghost recon may have started as fps but they excel Ed as a tps , ghost recon is a pve series , every other shooter game is PvP , make it make sense

@@ypistolpete8315 Nothing to do with PvE or PvP. It’s about perspective. Third person is non immersive, arcadey and feels like any generic cover and shoot game. First person is immersive, non arcadey and feels only as good as the devs have made the gunplay.

@@JJ_KhailhaEveryone is entitled to their own opinion, but everything you say is exactly the opposite for me. 1st person is very non-immersive for me, because it looks ugly and stupid. I don't feel like i'm controlling a character, i feel like i'm just controlling the crosshair, the camera or the gun. There's no soul and personality, it's like i'm using the drone in Ghost Recon. It feels like i'm moving a small screen, and not moving the character itself. 1st person feels very arcadey to me because it's just 'point & click' like the Whack-A-Mole games where you're just whacking targets that pop up. Or like the old Time Crisis for PS1, or shooting ducks on Nintendo. You can't even take cover properly in 1st person, you can't see your legs, ass, back, shoulders.. You just see your hands and the gun. You can't see the animations, no customization and cosmetics, nothing.. 1st person is very generic and outdated, it looks exactly the same like every other fps game, you can't tell the difference between games anymore, they're all the same. Copy/paste mechanics that's been the same for the last 30 years. There is absolutely no difference between the old Call Of Duty 2 (2005) and the latest MW3 (2023), only the graphics changed. Even the animations developed minimally. It's just shinier and bigger resolution.

@@twentytwo138 TL;DR

First person done right could definitely be badass but then you exclude a lot of the fan base who only played WL and BP for 3rd person and did like to see the ghost. It’s better to have both too so you ease 3rd person players into 1st person perspective sort of like a drug. At this point in innovation Ubisoft should have both perspectives dialed in with quality animations/cutscenes for both view points. Add peripherals to 1st too and we’d have a blast in first person. I just can’t understand why Ubisoft won’t innovate further w both perspectives just do both and make every one stfu already. I’d rather wait for a polished game like look at the come back ea dice had w battlefront 2 and this game had both 1st /3rd and the animations were cool but bf2 is still good just has little content compared to og bf2 but completely different games just saying why is adding two perspective so hard ofc more work but that’s what ghost recon needs. Ubi need to have the right resources and it’ll take money to make money so they need to step up already. If not then let it cook for years. Take it easy fellow ghost.

Agreed

ArmA 3's campaign isn't open-world. It has an open-world mode, and that's what GR should do: open-level missions for the campaign and an open-world mode for goofing around.

mean when you walk around on your way to a base.. GR wildland and breakpoint there just random units doing standing around, on a set patrol path or driving.. not looking for you Arma they are looking for you.. just want GR to be a lil more active

@@TheJayKS , okay. Ubisoft's open worlds are definitely too static. It doesn't feel realistic at all, for the majority of the time.

This is true. We’ll see what happens.

🧢💩🤡

YESSSS

@@Fedrix1409FUCK NO!

We’ll see. Cyberpunk said that was the case and I still think that game could have been 3rd person gameplay.

👏🏾

Lol

Yeah I agree

That's what I was thinking.

This. They’re incredibly lazy of this is true.

Polling people who are playing a third-person game is not a strong way to gauge whether people want a first-person game, and it's certainly not a way to decide if it's what's best for the gameplay. Tactical gameplay requires precise controls, and that's where first-person shines. It's not about pretty animations and high-fidelity graphics. Sound design doesn't even work properly in third-person. Should it be based on the avatar or the camera?

@@Go_Coup🧢

@@trealsteve , where? Use your language to form a cohesive and logical argument.

100% absolutely agreed with this comment

Well said sir absolutely 100% agree on this one

I agree with you

We’ll see.

I feel you on that

They may have leaked that to test the waters and see if they can get away with lazy FPS game design. I hope we all show our displeasure enough that they keep it TPS or add FPS option or mode.

Well technically the original game was just a crosshair on your screen so 🤷🏻‍♂️

twenty years ago

@@GmoneyMozart lol it was! maybe thats what they will go back to! A crosshair that expands or contracts to display recoil. j/k. But seriously, maybe UBI spent so much resources on the 3rd person animation system in Breakpoint, it was and is truly one of the best, but it might have come at the cost of story, tactical features, AI, etc.

@@funkynetofirst might do well there is a huge first person audience out there.

@@funkyneto , you might be joking, but I would gladly play a game like that (and I do with GR01.) GR01's gunplay is more realistic than Breakpoint's or Wildlands'. People are too obsessed with graphics. Gameplay should be put first in a game! They could have reused many of Breakpoint's animations in a first-person game that still feels good to control.

Yup

It’s not. Those people are wrong imo

"Longtime Ghost Recon dude..." Well, it can't be that long, as the first game was first-person-only.

Same here.

Lazy FPS game design.

Absolutely

Ya well have to wait and see.

Im pretty sure ghost island thunder was just a crosshair on the screen just like the original.

Interesting take

out with the old and in with the new I guess

Yes totally agreed

Na the fps modding barely made a dent in anything. It’s the more obvious answer. COD is doing billion dollar numbers and I think Ubisoft just wants to se dif they can get some of that market share. That’s prob the more than likely answer.

@@GmoneyMozart but then it’s also weird that the next CoD is apparently moving to TPS. It would have made more sense if they had given us both perspectives as an option

@@GmoneyMozartThat part.

@@alexandersandilands2734Ubisoft is late as always. They might as well innovate like they used to…but that would be too much like right. 🤦🏾‍♂️

It’ll have a lot of COD players for about two to three weeks until they realize it’s not COD and then this game will be blacklisted in a year due to low sales, players, and bad reviews comparing it to aforementioned COD. 🤣

@@trealsteve​​⁠Yeah that’s thing if GR goes only first then they’d really have to compete with other fps titles that have pretty darn good fps animations which idk if ubi is capable of but I would prefer both 1st/3rd w quality animations but the main focus for GR “over” shouldn’t be about conforming to 1st person perspective but to provide us w the roots of made ghost recon from the beginning w micromanaging. Ubi lost there way a long time ago and introduced an arcade style game like WL and BP but still can be played tactical w friends not Ai mates, the game loop is not as detailed when you don’t have micromanaging. Like I grew up on Desert Storm, COD BRO/FH, Brothers in Arms, Socom, All the Ghost Recons but I’m more familiar w Jungle Storm because of how long it’s been but I remember playing 1 and 2 w friend all the time on either PS or Xbox because my friend had both systems we played all the time and majority of these games had one feature in common which is micromanaging each character much like todays Enlisted game except not every feature was similar to Enlisted. Ghost Recon has been missing micromanaging as core identity for a long time. Micromanaging is what makes Ghost Recon a unique tactical experience especially if your playing alone single player like WL and BP doesn’t have this experience. Micromanaging made the single player experience more interesting by allowing us to utilize the whole squad and that meant every weapon too. That’s why it’s hard for me to play breakpoint and wild lands alone for a long time or else I get bored. I was so comfortable to that old way of playing ghost recon and why I can’t really consider WL and BP as tactical because you can’t micromanage anything it’s only hold here, open fire, go to, follow me which doesn’t offer that much. WL and BP are only interesting w friends pretty much which still can be played tactically just not with Ai team mates precisely because Ubisoft hasn’t innovated teammates further like we should be able to break our team down into groups or merge or be able to command one guy to hold as over watch for long periods of time. For example if I’m scouting a compound I would like to have some guys hold and stay there forever if I need that much time and be able to then switch back to one of the guys who is holding way in the back so I set up like an overwatch team for the other guy near the compound for supporting fire. The 3rd guy I didn’t mention if it’s 4 man team should either be with the 1 compound guy or back with the other 2 overwatch or doing something else like in a vehicle planting mine, etc whatever the situation. Sometimes the missions doesn’t always need big groups but I still want teams ready on standby incase my infiltration goes poorly and I have to open up which the enemy may call in reinforcements similar to WL aggressive alert system. Ghost Recon should have a whole force list of different teams and units similar to Enlisted but Ghost Recon verse where we can go and customize our units combat outfits either making them more heavy armored or light weight or median or middle armored. Weight should be gained by what guns and equipment we use or take. Armor should wear down over time too this should be where some looting comes in to play or you may have to head back to a fob, bivouac, or whatever to reequip armor plates especially if this game is open world it’ll need a detailed tactical game loop that not only has tactical missions but tactical features. I have always wanted the ghosts to have legitimate force in a ghost recon game on a map together as one at our disposal or a simplified version where we choose which squads to bring out. For example let the players choose units that would consist certain amount of ghosts that can operate differently like one unit is 4 man armored tank, another unit is an 8 man attacker squad which can roll in as a convoy of any vehicles, another unit could be 4 man support fire team maybe more machine gunners in this ghost unit but don’t forget we should be able to do all the open world things too like get vehicles for anybody or leave the tank, then the last squad you’d maybe bring is like a signal ghost squad which can use artillery and all sorts of air support like I envision a ghost recon campaign similar to Enlisted but game mechanics definitely need way more command options and go command system to break down individual ghosts to get them to the right locations to either hold or provide covering fire, etc. and Ubi should be thinking about what the animations could be like for these combat situations getting reference from real operators. It’s really about bringing back the identity of classic ghost recon n creating a completely new experience using both 3rd/1st I’d love that especially if all animations were fluid gold. Another interesting idea for the next game is gas in vehicles which should be like another lootable type item like if Ubi is going to do looting then make the feature have an impact on our tactical movements in game if I need gas to get certain place then it’ll make the operation more interesting. Lets say I finished a mission but at the beginning gas was full but now you don’t have gas or it was shot or blown up and now you need gas for your vehicle, you start checking the area looking enemy vehicles or gas containers and maybe could have like mechanic and animation to siphon gas like if we have all these teams to micro manage it’ll make the player have a lot more challenge and risk beside the main objectives this all creates a game loop where the devs can fine tune certain things if they don’t work properly like gas maybe the mission keeps failing because it’s timed or you don’t use your gas properly like the devs would need to make features like this work according to the mission layout. I just think missions would be way more interesting in ghost recon if it entailed more survival features but the correct ones like BPs ration thing and Flower picking didn’t really matter because our weight always stayed the same no matter what your combat outfit is equipped like. I hope Ubisoft is listening because I really want to see them succeed this time around but they just need to listen to the right parts of the community like G and ASQD know the deal that’s the reason I follow them no doubt. Keep it tactical G and fellow ghosts.