I LOVE the graphic of the skin tones and saturation! Why does no one else talk about this?! My whole makeup wearing life could have been made easier had I known about this sooner.
I saw somewhere it a long time ago, can't remember where, and I found it again today by googling "skin tone chart saturation." I think maybe a redditor made it? The tag is in the bottom left-hand corner of the full-size pic at 4:15
Check out Merriam Style color analysis gal here on youtube. I got a color analysis from her and it was life changing for my makeup and clothes. I have a rare coloring of medium very cool with olive tone.
I feel the same about Tower 28. I need and want preservatives in my makeup. I like to have a collection when it comes to makeup but I only wear makeup 1-3 times a week. So things can't go bad after two months..
'Yellow as a lemon, pink as a pig'! This made me laugh, but also reminded me of being like 12 and doing the 'light as a feather, stiff as a board' thing
Speaking of muted vs saturated - I need brands to come to a consensus as to whether "neutral" means "peach [between yellow-orange and pink]", "muted", or "both". Because boy howdy, that's a fun thing to figure out every time a new line launches.💀
the saturation chart BLEW MY MIND! I had no idea! I'm olive toned and need to mix the LA Girl blue pigment into every single complexion product without fail but I was never truly happy with my color outcome. now I know why. the blue was making my products too desaturated, too grey. I needed to also add the yellow pigment back in because, now I know, I'm a saturated olive. incredible! thank you!!
Hannah really has a point with saturation being the issue with the lightest shades in shade ranges. I am extremely pale, very nearly as pale as Hannah if not as pale, and definitely have a cool undertone to my skin. Thing is, just because I have a pink undertone does not mean that my skin is just baby pink or peptobismol pink. I am still mostly light beige, with some pink mixed in, and I’ve never met a human as vibrantly pink as the lightest cool toned shades in foundations tend to be.
This!!! I am very pale, neutral but leaning cool, and naturally have a whitish - pink tint in my skin. Luckily I have some slight redness on my cheeks that can kinda pull off as a natural blush but I’m definitely not as peach or pink as most foundations try to pull off 👀☕️
I will say that my sister has baby pink skin lol so I guess it does exist! But as an olive toned person who is as pale as a white piece of paper, it’s definitely a struggle!
This video has made me realize that i think i also have this type of skintone. Its like no shade is ever neutral enough but i think its that it needs more grey
I think you nailed it about Tower 28's target audience and that's great. My friends who use just 1 lip gloss, day in and day out, over other lip products or on its own... and perhaps more importantly, their kids, their teens and tweens, who can only afford 1 gloss, they're kinda the it brand in that realm.
I'm sure the reason for the Jones Road mania on your channel is that for a month or so every time I watched any beauty content on youtube they ran an ad with Bobbi Brown and it was just a really well made ad, which didn't really say what miracle balm was, only that was amazing and Bobbi said it was a miracle when she saw the results....OMG I literally typed this and the ad break in the middle of the video was for Jones Road. LOL
I’m dying for a “trending in my soul” HLP vid. Right now red Lips and baby pink blush with minimal and natural eye and complexion makeup is trending in my soul and I need to know what’s trending in yours!! 😊💕
Your makeup with this dress in the video is so goalz!!!!! I adore the incandescent glowy skin, the soft peachy lip, taupe shimmery pewter eye. Just stunning! Like a diffused, vintage goddess. We need to know the details of this look!!!
This is a deeply unserious comment: did not expect to hear anyone called noobs on a Makeup Hot Takes video but that was a delightful line and made me laugh out loud
Cosmic Brushes did the Serenity palette last year and became an indie darling almost overnight. Both are too green for me, but I love how bold their choices are.
I think the perception is that there are color correctors for those of us with odd undertones. I realized I'm sort of in between a neutral and olive undertone. Idk how that's even possible but it seems to be that way 🤷♀️.
@@erinlikesacornishpasty4703 from what i understand (thank you r/OliveMua) the olive skintone spectrum ranges from cool olive to neutral olive to warm olive just like the non olive spectrum does! That might be what you're noticing, perhaps?
@@dw7896 I actually totally get @erin likes a cornish pasty 's point (and @HannahLouisePoston @graceparker-guerrero1771 for that matter). They are so similar that it's hard to even put into words, but there's subtle differences that you wouldn't notice unless it's on your own skin. It just looks off :/
Next time you're in Ulta or Sephora, you should swatch Urban Decay's Beached bronzer if its still out there in the wild. It looks like rat poo on all my yellow undertoned, pale skinned friends, but on the pinky/gray/slightly olivey among us, it gives that, sun-kissed, slightly reddened, look that actually, looks natural. Cuz I am SO with you on bronzers for pale people looking orange and if they don't look like orange, they look like streaks of mud.
I'm trying to understand how you would avoid telling your friends directly about the rat poo similarities with their faces, but then you blab it on RU-vid? This is just too weird.
@@MyCleverHandle they’re the ones who came to me and are like, “how can you like this? It looks like poo on me!?” And that’s what I respond with something akin to their fav highlighter looking awful on me and how we may both be pale, but we have radically different undertones. In fact, it was trying favs of friends that really helped me understand my undertone better.
@@MyCleverHandle also, why is communication between humans weird? Is it because it doesn’t fit your narrative of how interactions should happen? Or because you’re making assumptions with only grains of information about it all?
I love your rant, and shout out to mashimero for that graphic. According to that I'm (roughly) a muted neutral. One of the foundations you decluttered at the end of 2022 is my perfect match (Kosas Revealer in 100 Very Light Neutral), and it only took 22 years or so for it to exist. 🙃
As an artist specializing in color/ undertones, etc, i’m so glad you brought up undertones, and the differences on the spectrum of them in our skin ! (Which is why I almost never wear foundation.. ) probably one of the more intelligent summations I’ve ever heard.on RU-vid.
I’ve been thinking a lot about saturation because I’ve gotten into the “color season analysis” thing. I don’t think it’s 100% the way the truth and the light, but it’s a helpful framework for me. In thinking about why some people look better in bright colors (I’ve never been analyzed by a professional but I’m pretty sure I’m a bright spring) it seems to be related to the saturation of color in skin/hair/eyes along with undertones. But I’m over here perking up when I hear the lightest shade looks peach but still fair.
This makes a lot of sense, especially within the seasonal analysis, given the categories. I like Merriam Style here on RU-vid for her approach to cool (blue) and warm (yellow) based on color theory and muted versus bright. For me, it’s intuitive to look at what stands out the most (dark on me) and make sure that what is near your face falls there. I would be dark winter, technically, as a cool olive medium with dark hair and eyes. Every dark color looks good on me regardless of hue but cooler colors work slightly better. Muted is more important if I’m wearing light colors. Brights of any shade look garish.
I am totally with you on your soapbox! As a super pale, cool, but MUTED - colored person, I've been saying UGH to all of this new stuff, too! "Laura, it's a no" from me, too. One product made me happy, though, and that is the Jones Road bronzer in Dusty Rose. That pink-toned Hermes bronzer is interesting, but like you I would need more info.
You sound like my skin twin! Have you tried the Flower Beauty Heatwave Bronzer in SunLight ? Drugstore brand and price, but they nailed it! And I have rosacea, which makes trying to match skin tones a big game of whack-a-mole. So I've been a BareMinerals girl for over twenty years. The OG, Original loose mineral powders in two adjoining shades allow for whatever mood my face is in on any day. Boring, but exciting too bc I always have the confidence I need with my foundation to be able to play with the eyes, cheeks and lips. But I love HLP's understanding of the subject, she explains it so well!
@@MyCleverHandle thanks! I will try your rec. I have rosacea, too. So I'm pale cool-muted with redness, as well. I love blush, but I want to put it where I want it, not all the places rosacea puts it. And I also really appreciate HLP's understanding of the subject of skin colors and I wish makeup companies would listen to her!
That picture of skin tones and saturation is amazing! It's so so helpful to show why getting a match is difficult. I have a yellow undertone, but I'm about as pale as Hannah and I have real issues with getting anything light enough. The first two shades are usually cool tone and pink! I got myself a white mix in after being inspired by this channel
I bought the tower 28 orange blush and I loved it. I used it almost every time I did my make up and it expired within six months. I’m still really sad about it but I won’t be purchasing it because it’s a waste of my money, if I can’t actually use it.
@@HannahLouisePoston (I just finished watching the video--had to transfer over to the treadmill to watch it--am back at my desk to comment.) OH MY! The Mood! I loved it! Grinned the entire time. Guffawed a couple of times. I'm sorry you were feeling spicy when you filmed the video, and I'm so glad you let us enjoy the professional spiciness with you! Loved it!!
I'm loving soap box hannah! As someone who has gone through trying too many foundations that rarely work because so few offer light options for olive undertones, all the 🙌 for calling out companies that don't recognize this!
I am in a very similar mood to how you seem to feel here, so it was very satisfying to hear your extra spicy takes on everything! Also, that saturation/color graph is SO helpful!! That’s definitely answered some questions I’ve always had about my undertone (apparently, desaturated neutral). Thank you for that! I hope tomorrow is a better day for both of us ❤
Have short patience, go off! Thats how we can also better appreciate when you do enjoy something. And I love the nerdy details about complexion, it helps me on my journey to figure out what I like and why. I love all the nitty gritty deeper understanding of things.
Hannah - just try all - even bright or deep colors - of Suqqu blushes. They are so diffuse and finely milled I am almost as fair olive as you and have not met a suqqu shade that was too saturated for me yet. Even the blush that looks tomato red in the pan - used with a fluffy fine natural hair brush (the Sonia G sky soft cheek is my fave) it’s still entirely wearable and I’d have to layer to get any saturation. Japanese blushes - that’s what you want. I have discovered cranberry and plum and similar hues for deep olive skin are better on me than hues for pale pink or peach skin. Just we need a different formula than the US insane saturation. Try it! 😘
as someone with a cool, muted, something skin... I'm just happy if they include pale shades but especially if they're anything other than pale and yellow. That's how sad the landscape is out there for those pale babes at the tail of the spectrum. I can't do golden, I can't do peach... is gray pink a thing? I find K beauty and J beauty brands tend to have the best undertones for me... even if they only have 3 shades entirely.
@@juliaswistara I like the Lioele BB Cream. I think it’s kind of magic since ppl on Amazon are giving positive reviews who say they have yellow undertones or pink or olive. I personally think the yellow undertone ppl don’t actually have that undertone.
yep, i've largely given up on western complexion products at this point because i find korean products so superior both in terms of formula and matching my skintone. it's really nice browsing the olive young website & seeing so many products with shades explicitly marketed to people with mute tone complexions.
I'm pale with with what i would describe as a grey pink undertone and yeah the missha/purito bb creams in shade 21 and erstwhile CYO lifeproof foundation in shade 101 are/were the most flattering foundation shades I've found thus far. I'm realising now from the graphic Hannah shared that what they all have in common is low saturation. I find even if a muted shade leans a little more olive than pink, it's a million times more flattering on me than a saturated pale yellow shadow, or a saturated peach (I don't really understand how peach ends up classed as a cool tone in the first place). I feel like muted undertones must be relatively common, because all three of those products/shades have like a cult following. Ppl in foundation reviews will still say "this is similar to CYO lifeproof in 101". I can get by with the bb creams for my foundation for as long as they keep making them but now I'm on a bit of a quest to find a concealer with that muted grey pink undertone.
Obviously the point is that we don't want to have to use mixers to be able to get the right shade, but using shade adjusters is probably the best thing for people with muted or "unusual" coloring. When you're adding blue or green, you're not just making the product more blue or green, you're also making grey by canceling out the orange, red, and pink tones.
You are the only makeup reviewer who I feel like gets me!!! It's not a soapbox! You are speaking my language! You really understand colour. You should create your own complexion line💋💋💋
I’m trying to talk myself out of signing up for the restock by remembering similar colours I own. But all I enjoy wearing is purples and greens so it’s shouting at me
I’m also super pale, but olive toned, so I love your foundation and concealer vids (and Alex Anele). Currently, I’m using Yensa “Super Serum Silk Foundation” in light natural. I’m not a full coverage person, so I really like it.
Spot on for skin tones, use of product as a non-influencer makeup user, and eyeshadow color stories. My favorite part was the jamming section at the end 😀
I suffer with you re: color, tone, and saturation struggles. Haven't found a foundation I'll wear yet. Just tried Haus Labs, closest one to me is too yellow for my comfort. Really thought I had it this time. Trying to explain this struggle to my best friend is painful. A true understanding of color, tone, and saturation is hard to find anywhere, let alone in the cosmetics realm. You are a treasure for this and many other reasons, and I'm grateful to you for your part in helping me to better understand these concepts...and for reminding the not-yellow-not-pink-not-one-tone individuals that we're not on our own out there.
I just got the Lisa Eldridge lip gloss in Decade (deep plummy brown). I have very deep mauve colored lips and it is an amazing look against my pale cool skin. I love this formulas that is lovely and at the same time very balmy and nourishing; I also love the Make Beauty Serum Balm and Intense versions as well.
Thank you for talking about the color story of the Cosmic Brushes palette in this way! I do this a lot, where I see a palette and think how cool it is, but you can never make a look that's as cool as the combo in the palette. I never really thought about it in this way, but it's absolutely true.
I had to jump myself off the ledge from buying the GlamliteXChucky palette by duping the vibes from my current collection. I realized that I feel so strongly about the Chucky palette because I adore the color story, but this also means I have the color story scattered throughout my collection of palettes and singles. Thank you for giving me the ability to step back and look at things in context!
Hannah- I don't know if this would help but have you ever tried any complexion products from k beauty brands? I find the Missha and Purito cc creams have a fairly gray undertone. I'd love to hear your thoughts on k beauty and see you review some different products. I find a lot of mine on YesStyle
Cosmic Brushes is the brand, and they are amazing. Such a low price point for how good they are. They did a palette last year that was just stunning and high quality. If you ever want to try a new brand, this company has something special. I'm in a mood also, so pass on everything else LOL! The Muse palette should be here tomorrow though haha. Oh yeah, I did order a Haus blush. I want to try it. But nothing else. For now. 🤣
I've been on a makeup no buy since the beginning of the year, but had a Sephora gift card I was allowed to spend...and the new Haus Labs blush was finally the one. I've been lusting after that super vibrant cool-pink shade that's been on trend, and that blush was just it for me. I LOVE it and have been treasuring adding something actually new to my collection (not a dupe of something I already owned). It's my first Haus Labs product and I'm absolutely impressed!
Great point about how we look at eyeshadow palettes, seeing the whole story is really tempting but in reality I do only use 3-4 shades on the eye if that!
I’m Dutch and Sicilian and also pale olive. I have spent many years looking for the perfect foundation. Even the computerized matching doesn’t work. I have freckles and it gives me golden every time. Ma’am I’m straight up green! I’m glad to have come across your channel. It’s nice to see how products might look on me ❤
What a revalation about the colour story of a palette and the difference to the looks you are going to create with those colours. Mind blowing and enabeling my future self to distance itself further from the attraction of palettes when I already have enough eyeshadow in my drawer. Thank you 🥰!
The super pale olive skin undertone struggle is real. I had to convince some friends that it was even a thing. I generally use lighter coverage neutral foundations bc there are so few pale olive options
This video made me go and check on my tower 28 blushes and yes, they had mold already and I didn't have them that long, had to throw them out. Good thing too because I was also considering getting the bronzer, not anymore.
The conversation on skin colors is so fascinating, Hannah!!! I would love a whole video on just this. Also, I’d love to know your thoughts, if any, on those popular seasonal color systems.
The Haus Labs blush is very nice (and I do love a bright blush)! The grid doesn't do them justice, mainly because they're trying to not scare people off with clown cheeks, but god as my witness I am that clown. The red is nearly neon and gives a gorgeous flush, but I decided to get the berry one instead because I've been looking for a good berry blush for months. I'm very happy with it so far, mainly because it applies evenly and lasts all day on my very oily skin (powder blushes are iffy for me because they can be patchy on my textured cheeks). Also, the pans are huge - 12g for $38, as opposed to the usual 4g of other blushes at this price point. And I like huffy Hannah! Sometimes, as a makeup lover, I feel like a tiger pacing around my cage waiting to see something vital and artistically invigorating. Most of the time, I end up disappointed because everything looks the same. Everything is a dupe of everything else, brands dupe themselves to the point of absurdity, everything that doesn't go viral is instantly forgotten, and so called "gurus" give the same slavishly glowing reviews while rehashing the same tired makeup techniques. Sometimes the only way we can entertain ourselves is by having our Statler and Waldorf moments, so let's all be grumpy together sometimes!
Oh Hannah I just hope I make someone smile and giggle as much as you make me. And the stuff at the end on man full on lol loving your content more and more each video.
new makeup ~ hot takes! new makeup! ✨hot takes✨ nEw MaKeUp HoT tAkES!! (loved this end song; such a bop!!) also I LOVE a petty Hannah tbh, feel free to make more hot takes videos in this mood 😎
Loved this video lol. I get the everything turned thing. It happens to me to. Your makeup looks beautiful ❤. Would love a tutorial on the look or products.
Thank you for this, I love this series 💜 I was looking at the tower 28 lip glosses at Sephora yesterday and felt so tempted, but that’s good to know how quickly they go bad!
Was going to say the same. I am trying my hardest not to buy any new makeup and especially eyeshadow palettes, but as someone from England an indie make up brand based here that does eye shadow good enough to impress Angie is definitely a temptation.
I’ve only ever bought one thing from Tower 28 - the mascara. And I loved that mascara. It wasn’t heavy yet coating, and lifted up my lashes nicely. I opened it in January, and last week it started not looking good anymore, and yesterday it started to smell a bit. So that’s like barely 2 months of use for $20. 😭
I needed to hear that!! Everyone is losing their mind over it, but I've been so nervous to try it because the idea of putting a bacteria-ridden mascara all up on my eyes terrifies me. I'm scared to get an infection or something! I've been waiting to hear more about the shelf life, so this was very helpful. Thank you! 💜🌻
I just want to take a moment to acknowledge the ongoing success of Dead Salmon, Farrow & Ball #28. I myself was #TeamSettingPlaster (the first to fall) but you made the right choice! It reminds me of yummy, melted coffee ice cream : ) Looks great!
Oh Hannah you need to try the green color corrector from Moira beauty . Total game changer . My daughter gifted it to me and it’s absolutely amazing. The concealer is spot on , lasts all day and no cake face .
I have many blushes and I change up what I wear often. The tower 28 magic hour is in fact my favorite! I bought my first one in 2020 I think. I actually used it all up about 3 months ago. It never went off at all and now I am happily using a brand new one. I cannot speak on tower 28 as a brand because magic hour is all I have owned, but that blush is lovely!
I love when things are unnecessarily beautiful like fancy soap or that Hermes bronzer, it kind of reminds me/ forces me to use the nice things, like to buy beautiful soap, appreciating its beauty and knowing that I will wear that beauty away with use, and that that doesn't mean I shouldn't use it or that that beauty is less valuable, it's lovely to choose beautiful options for the things that are easily part of our lives rather than trying to force beauty into our lives by way of things that don't actually fit into the lives that we want to live
omg that saturation chart was so helpful! I was so confused once when I tried a foundation that 'should' have been my shade but straight up looked grey on me, I think I'm more saturated
