+BigDumApe We all have our perfect NO song(s)....Age of Consent isn't one of mine, but we're all different I suppose. Some of my choices might not be in your top 20 NO songs either.
New Order and Joy Division are of the utmost importance to the art of music- the fact they are not in the Rock Hall of Fame solidifies the fact the institution is a crock.......
The band that are being honoured have to pay themselves for the privilege to be inducted. It's quite steep I believe, we're talking thousands each per member.
@@gfx2943 I was thinking the same - she is really kept hidden in the footage here, mostly just shown in sparse glimpses. Either she told the crew that she didn't want to be filmed or else they really missed out on her.
01 Let's Go 0:00 02 The Perfect Kiss 4:15 03 Age Of Consent 13:26 04 Thieves Like Us 18:23 05 State Of The Nation 24:34 06 As It Is When It Was 31:00 07 The Village 34:52 08 Subculture 39:22 09 All Along The Watch Tower (snippet) 10 Atmosphere 44:36 11 Temptation 49:20 12 Blue Monday 56:10
Very well said. The 1980s were marked by musical exploration and an explosion in creativity, facilitated by more affordable and improved synthesizers and home recording technology. That decade saw the proliferation of many exciting new genres, including house, techno, hip hop, Hi-NRG, post-punk, the Madchester sound, New Romantic, industrial, thrash metal, shoegaze and grunge. Besides the swinging 1960s, no other time period can match the sheer breadth of fresh ideas that were then floating around.
It's funny though, that Bernard wrote most of these songs. And obviously, he could not play the guitar and sing at the same time. So, he wrote the songs to minimize his weakness. And he wrote some of the most iconic songs of all time.
oh what nonsense: he's one of the greatest living rhythm guitarists. you DO know how fond NO were of drugtaking and drink, yeah? and not giving a. come on, now.
This gig is a New Order masterpiece. Shame Hooky and Barney could not deal with their egos for ages! Same place Joy Division played in 1980. Also a great setlist and performance.
It is such a shame because those two together really made New Order. Morris and Gilbert are both exceptional musicians too, but neither New Order nor The Light are really the same without each other. Creative tensions make for such good music, but so many great bands fall apart because of them.
@@oswing I can see that, I always thought they didn't out of respect, but apparently they do and always have just not much. Have to admit though, I was still super excited when they opened with Disorder when I saw them at Riotfest in 2016. Biased though obviously it being my first live show seeing my favorite band open with one of the songs that got me into music with a guy I liked all while on almost half a gram of ecstasy. If you look it up it's not an awful rendition, but still not the same, their touring bassist played a simpler version and really Hook is a bassist you just can't emulate.
@@hvhvgitaar of course not, but they played several Joy D. stuff. They went two times to PlanK, I was at the 2nd concert. When Ian disappeared, they presented themselves as New Order ( it took them several months to go for the name NO !
@@_swift1312 Peter Hook and the light came to my city last year but I missed the show :( I found out about the show on you tube! You Are Very Lucky to have seen Peter Hook play with joy division and New Order !!!! :)
Bernard's lyrical improvisations crack me up...'I like fucking in the park.' So sad him and Hooky had such a bust up...I saw them in 85 at the Royal Albert Hall and then 86 in Glastonbury such a great gig, they played 'sister ray' that night, well their version of it. Low Life is one of the best albums ever made in my opinion and Temptation one of the best singles of all time, the live version anyway. Cant believe this is 33 years ago.
Steve and Gillian driving the band in perfect syncopation (clearly was ♥️) while Bern + Hooky delivering the mood and energy. What a perfect band; truly a new order from the supernova of joy division. 👏👏👏
New Order one of the greatest bands at this time along with the Cure, Talk Talk, Tears for Fears and the Human League. Such an incredible time for music. Let’s Go is a brilliant forgotten track
Steve holding everything together while Barney is off his face, Hooky is soloing endlessly and Gillian staring blankly not doing much 😂 He was the most important thing about the band for me even with Ian Curtis
I had this gig on tape. A really good sound recording aswell. It was the time when all my mates were going through a phase. I would admit it wasn't for the money, because it was very time consuming. I would have pen friends around the UK , We would regularly ring up each other and swop details on the bands we were interested in. Tapes were usually sold for £2/£3. The Music magazine's would put in people's ads. Until about the early 1990s, the laws of copyright/recording/bootlegs were finished. It was so much fun and probably went back to the 1970s of bootlegs.👂
@Andy Mann anyway it's them all together creating this sublime group....they always had their role, always crucial... the drug/alcohol business was of no interest. The megalomaniac trip between Peter and Bernard does no meaning to me.. We love them all, Andy.... Olivier, Belgium
The bravery and humility to play Atmosphere. The seminal moment on this outstanding video. You just wonder about the emotion of Bernard, Steve, and Peter playing this. Thanks to Peter and The Light, for truly bringing this spectacular music of Joy Division back to life in 2017/18/19 ... and future!
@@YOURTECHFRIEND and he's REALLY nice and sympathetic... I really like him very much as a human being.... not typical or familiar... see Peter Hook, wonderful bassist, but what a poor guy !
I saw them at salford university in the early 80's and there was something almost devotional about their set - a very special band considering the grandiosity of the bands of the mid-seveties
What new order was aiming for was a new future, a future promised them by punk. Something beyond fashion and aggression. A utopia of sorts. Lucky for them they all a funny lot. Plus they were all interested in how to go further as a band, how to develop from technology but retaining the spirt of punk the spirit of youth. All the pain and ego and tragedy and fun is in their sound. They’re so fantastic.
Ian knew they werw gr8, he was their biggest cheerleader. he was spot on!!!! and this footage is just beautiful. I grew up w NO and 2 b taken back 2 when I was 23 yo and hear/see this, freakin priceless. .
@@sapainca , yes, that is very much a part of it too. What Hook did, IMO, was allow melody and groove to not falter when Bernie was faffing about. But, yes, Stevie's timing was impeccable.
To be fair, it was just Barney who brought them down. Hook and Morris are great musicians, and Gillian complemented them perfectly. Barney was a good songwriter and did his own thing on guitar (although sometimes live he was terrible), but an awful singer and frontman.
thank you so much for posting this. i am solely responsible for 2,500 of your view count. i burned this to a DVD-R and watch it on my home theater 72" plasma. it sounds INCREDIBLE over a Marantz 800w receiver & Polk Audio towers. The bass is thumping hard. many many nights stoned watching this. i have never heard N.O. sound so good, and I've heard most of their stuff. absolutely on point here! pure gold
Ro Dee im interested in that DVD-R did you enhance any audio or straight from vid? I LOVE THIS SHOW and MANY others on YT i didnt get to experience them in the 80s and theyre my fav band :O
+Ro Dee i posted this as a downloadable DVD-R file in ISO format. it will burn onto a blank DVD-R or DVD+R with any cd/dvd burning program. cheers1 drive.google.com/file/d/0B3Mm6IMtcw1ebC10eUUtcTRva1E
It was the New Music analogy of a jam session as you will ever find! I never saw a band workshop songs live as much as New Order did between 1981-1987! It used to be astonishing, I saw them about a dozen times during that time. It would leave your jaw dropped! The first time I saw them do Everything's Gone Green or Sunrise 😮
The best New Order performance I’ve ever seen...and the most well done live “The Perfect Kiss” performance ever. I have never seen this video before, thank you so much for posting.
It's awesome to watch them playing at that time. How they tried the most to play live all the different sounds of studio. Perfect kiss is an example. They had a huge effort to make it happen. 😊👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
They were so clumsy in Atmosphere!! Bernard reading the lyrics, Gillian confused on the keyboard, Hook impatient... But that was one of their early tribute to Ian's memory at that time.😢😊
I saw them around the same time. They were so good, so creative, they had so many technical problems, singing was average and even bad at times, so unpolished, but yet everything spontaneously came together. Like magic, like art. I saw them a couple more times later in the 90s, their skills were way better. They made less mistakes. But the magic in the music was gone. Thanks for the video.
It’s not New Order without Hooky. His bass was the intrinsic sound of both Joy Division and New Order. After a while Hooky was treated very badly by the rest of the band, especially that creep Bernard. They are now NO ORDER
Saw them at the Felt Forum NYC the Summer of '85. Great show. Opening band A Certain Ratio got no applause till they announced that their next song was the last one of the set. The crowd erupted with applause. The band got totally pissed and was flipping us off and ranting. The crowd booed them offstage along with various other chants. Hooky complained about how we treated their opening act but put on a great show.
I was there, too! What a great night. The crowd was almost as entertaining as the band - I called it the night of a thousand hairdos. Got to see them 2 more times over the years and still love them like back then. The greatest band ever. They must all have the same musical DNA.
Before everyone gets too complicated., from Australia, New Order are legend. Bernard ain't the best singer, but it isn't about that is it! I love you Bernard Sumner!
Imperfections are Perfect and Perfection is just a state of mind and can be so utterly boring. New Order represent imperfection so beautifully. Yes, Bernard's voice live back then was sometimes painful but the painfulness added to the raw emotion which I will take time and time again over autotune technical perfection. At least it makes one with a soul feel something whether that is respect or annoyance.
Grew up listening to them since 1986. I never got to see them in live, living on a rock in the middle of Pacific. Thanks for posting. I got a little taste of being a concert. Thank you New Order for life time of memories.
Was there as well. A terrible location to reach, this nightclub near the canal in Leuven. The band was drinking cocktails at a table when we came in. Typical eye blinding coloured drinks of the eighties. Quando Quango was opening. I remember heading back after the concert with my best friend and having to walk miles in the cold before finding public transport. The concert poster i got from jjrecords is still hanging on my bedroom wall. My memory of the concert is a bit mixed. Found it a bit messy in places and Conan the Barbarian played bass that night.
Barney does sound exceptionally good in this performance. Hooky rocking that bass as usual. Gill great on the synths and with Ste the drum machine do we need to say more?... I think not.
This is one of the best gigs I've heard them doing. Bernard can always be a bit awkward but he manages to get through this without throwing a tantrum apart from a bit in thieves like us. Its usually like performing his music live annoys him ! . Really Good gig .
Yes, very good, clean, tight and excellent sound mix. By the way, the lyrics to Thieves Like Us are even more haunting if they are seen as alluding to Ian Curtis and his guilt-ridden marriage/affair (something the band and his widow kept under wraps until her book came out in the mid-90s). "It's called LOVE / and ít cuts your heart like a broken knife /It's called love /and it belongs to every one of us /It's called love, love, love..." - Barney's lyrics sound like a defiant attempt to calm the memories of his former bandmate Ian and his demons",
The glory days....not only were they awesome back then in the studio, but also on stage. Songs you don't hear anymore can be forgotten for the gems they are (e.g. state of the nation, as it is when it was, subculture), especially live. I'd have gone to great lengths to get a ticket to see them back then and you knew you were in for a treat. These days I don't even bother going to see them live, because it's not the same.
+henry tortoise I know what you mean as I have been seeing them since 1982, but I still find their current show great and find their latest album to be one of their top 3 or 4. I hate that Hooky is no more although his shows leave NO in the dust as to length of sets and the fact he plays everything. Thanks to Hooky I heard EG, Hurt, and Temptation in the same show. I have never heard NO play EGG or Hurt, to name but a few. They should add stuff from Low Life to their current show. They really should play for 2-2.5 hrs.
Saw them the same year in Wolverhampton (Low Life tour). Still got the drumstick that Barney used on The Perfect Kiss - someone else managed to grab the set list off Gillian's Synth. No pit or walkway for big fat bouncers in those days, though it did mean walking home with crushed ribs and internal bleeding. Worth it, mind.
Oops - just checked. Feb '86 was Wolverhampton. The one I went to in '85 was in Birmingham (Tower Ballroom). That was the infamous night that they played their best ever set to a couple of bemused cleaners after we had all gone home.
I saw New Order in Dublin Jan''86, barely 200 there,place was like an icebox,even Bernard said it,New order played night before,completely different set,magnificent,had to walk home, no bus fare,changed my life for good,and the better. Friendchip.
Electronic music pioneers with one of the bess bass players to ever walk the Earth. I know Hooky doesn't hang with the rest of the band anymore - but he is still active (his work on Aries with the Gorillaz is smooth). New Order were ridiculously influential and still tour today (I have tickets to see them at the Hollywood Bowl with Pet Shop Boys...Pet Shop Men? Pet Shop Senior Day?) If you don't think New Order belong in the rock and roll hall of fame - watch them perform Perfect Kiss in this video. The layering of sound, Hook's hook and then wailing like a madman on the electric drums, Sumner's guitar riffs and then whipping the hell out of the cowbell - Bruce Dickinson would be impressed, along with catchy synth overlays - they got synthesized frogs! Who the hell else has synth frogs! The kicker - this group sprang from the ashes of Joy Division. They most definitely belong in the hall of fame.
Let’s Go works so much better as an instrumental for me. It makes for a truly banging, if chaotic, set opener. I wish there was a version of Let’s Go (Nothing For Me) with B’s vocals removed, that’d be my favorite.
Thank you chummytummy1971!! 🎉 I so felt the music when I danced to them, but unfortunately I never saw them live. So, again, thank you for this excellent live show! 🎉❤🌈
Love this band so much!! I'm also a fan of joy division my first love.i'm 41 I rember seeing what sumner looked like for the first time💕💕💕💕 he will be my crush forever. The music of these two bands changed my world!!
+jackiline Wright What would our lives have been like had JD not formed and went on to be NO? We'd not know any different, but our lives would have been much the poorer without them.
Thieves like us...wow! What a performance. It's called love And it belongs to everyone of us It's called love And it cuts your life like a broken knife, no Love, love, love love love It's called love and it belongs to us It's called love, love, love love love It's called love and it belongs to everyone but us
Yeah, see some recent videos of Hooky&light, they play JD and NO everything. And Hooky's voice is really perfect now. Together with David Potts who has voice very similar to Barney's, it is sometimes hard to recognise who is playing, NO or Hooky&light? Lately I was listening Regret from Hooky's band and the sound, voice and everything was 100% identical like NO in 1993...
They were in rare form for this show from what I can see and hear. They often get defined as this group that used synthesizers and drum machines which they did employ during their run but what makes them so damn great in my opinion is that they can do both. They can jam with real instruments or use the technology and either way they will create great songs. Bernard and the gang played "Let's Go" but performed the instrumental version without the lyrics which are pretty powerful if you know the song.
@Sophie totally agreed. Hooky already has a hard sexy style whit that bass and...that plus with no shirts?! I feel like Daisy Ridley seeing Adam Driver without that short in Star Wars...about Driver...I Don't know if i'm mad but...I think he could be a nice Hooky in some cinebio.
They are the correct synthesis of the best of the late 70’s and 80’s “post-punk”/New wave/electronica/pop music. Done so well it still sounds fresh in 2023!
If only I had a time machine. I treasure these recordings. This one is truly wonderful. New Order live is a whole other band. Great job on the remasters and the synching.
I need that machine too. Now we are living in most ever advanced technologies so I am wondering that somebody still did not develop that machine😂😂 So only thing I can do is reviewing my memories again and again. 80's were the best decade ever and I still live there in my mind.
