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"New" photo reignites Butch Cassidy debate 

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What really happened to famed outlaws Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid? KSL Newsradio's Brianna Bodily talked to a history teacher who thinks a newly discovered historic photo may provide new clues, and historians on both sides of the renewed debate.

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@kalipono1
@kalipono1 3 года назад
I personally knew his niece 25 years ago. she lived in Adelanto, California. she was 89. she showed me a picture of butch and a pic of her grandson. they were identical as if the same person. she said butch died in the states and actually gave me directions down to the amount of steps where he is buried. she saw him at her mother's funeral standing at the back of the church and he came in a couple times to join them for dinner.
@nicholasjanke3476
@nicholasjanke3476 3 года назад
That's fascinating!
@patrickluchycky1172
@patrickluchycky1172 3 года назад
My friend is related butch. She looks just like his sister, actually if you put a long straight haired wig on butch that's what she looks like. I'm so happy she found a good man to love her. Whole family knows butch and Sundance made it back to the states.
@Mr.56Goldtop
@Mr.56Goldtop 5 лет назад
I think it's cool how they found the exact spot the picture was taken at and matched up the old and new photos! It looks like it hasn't changed.
@thedbcooperforum
@thedbcooperforum 4 года назад
That's the only thing plausible..those guys were killed end of story..
@TalonID
@TalonID 3 года назад
@Christian Voorhees I'm not sure if you ever discussed this photo with Kerrry Boren. If not, you should as my Dad filled him in on the details of this photo and other history about Butch. My Dad passed 18 months ago but Mr. Boren knows the details of Butch's relationship with Henry Sumsion, my Great, Great Grand Father.
@dariusjackelson9915
@dariusjackelson9915 3 года назад
Well, we know one more place where Butch and Sundance weren't.
@oldschool1993
@oldschool1993 2 года назад
Would like to see some more detailed version of the photo. My grandfather told us that when he was working on the railroad he knew Cassidy and was invited to join his gang, but he decided on staying the straight and narrow path instead. Would be cool if he was one of the men in this photo.
@harrylongabaugh7402
@harrylongabaugh7402 3 года назад
They didn't die in Bolivia.
@JamesBond-uz2dm
@JamesBond-uz2dm 3 года назад
Correct, that was a their cover story
@69realstar2
@69realstar2 3 года назад
Sometimes the Legend is better than the reality...
@johndavies9270
@johndavies9270 3 года назад
As John Ford said (in 'The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance") When the legend and the truth differ, print the legend.
@davefairburn3298
@davefairburn3298 3 года назад
There was a story in the Daily Beast about Butch Cassidy & Sundance Kid, that they didn't die in a shoot out in Bolivia, but move on to ranch in Argentina raising cattle. They later returned to the USA, Sundance settling in Wyoming & Butch live awhile in Spokane, before moving back to Utah and made contact with his sister. He had a brother who was mining near Goldfield, NV & died in a mining accident. When Butch died, he wanted to be buried nest to his brother there.
@garysatterlee7430
@garysatterlee7430 3 года назад
Butch Cassidy came back Dave Tolliver talked to him in Wyoming bar he grow up in Browns park. Dave was married to blanch Campbell my grandmother from Browns park.
@lucaarienta7690
@lucaarienta7690 10 месяцев назад
🇮🇹anche per billy the kid grazie ad una foto storica sono riusciti a risalire al luogo in cui fu fatta! Fantastico!
@danielwebster5748
@danielwebster5748 2 года назад
He said they had a big reunions in 1927 he was sad to hear that his Outlaw life had caused his mother an early grave he didn't know his sister and she didn't know him although she had heard a lot about him and they stayed up visiting all night
@frankroman7546
@frankroman7546 Год назад
I have . one photo (tintype) unknown. Showing Butch Cassidy and Sundance Kid with others guys, playing card, how I can send the photo.
@peterfranklin1759
@peterfranklin1759 3 года назад
Elvis is still alive too. I've seen him. He works in the fish and chip shop at the end of our road.
@d.b.2812
@d.b.2812 3 года назад
The eye sees what it wants sometimes.
@TylerSane5
@TylerSane5 5 лет назад
Well they could have had tons of kids they didn't know about considering there always on the move!.
@pesikimoana3270
@pesikimoana3270 6 лет назад
that's my social studies teacher, oOf
@yankeewatchdog6493
@yankeewatchdog6493 3 года назад
At 1:18...why are they comparing a photo of Sundance on the left, to a photo of Butch, on the right? That makes no sense...
@KF7MGT
@KF7MGT 2 года назад
Media my man...
@brettfreeman1574
@brettfreeman1574 2 года назад
The left is the FT WORTH 5 pic Sundance compared with may appear to be Sundance in the Railroad pic on the right.
@danielwebster5748
@danielwebster5748 2 года назад
I think Butch Cassidy was even smarter than I thought he has been pulling people for 115 years still the debate rages I think his family is the ultimate Authority on that and they said he survived and came on and although he had had face surgery the small was still there and they knew instantly it was Butch I mean how many parents don't know their own son even if he has had his face changed his dad didn't recognize him at first but once he smiled he said that's my boy no doubt about it
@tballstaedt7807
@tballstaedt7807 2 года назад
Legend is a funny thing. Butch Cassidy, in his time wasn't as famous as an outlaw as many might assume. He didn't become a household name until later in the 20th century. Dr Steve Lacey who was good friends with Matt Warner's daughter says Robert Leroy Parker, (Butch) died under the alias of Frank Irvin after leaving the outlaw life butch, (Frank) had a career on a section gang and retired from the railroad in the 1930s. I didn't know about this photo. The storiy compliments the photo's authenticity. It could really be Butch.
@chardi7
@chardi7 3 года назад
im a student of voorhees
@BandiGetOffTheRoof
@BandiGetOffTheRoof 6 лет назад
It might not have been Butch...but he was somebody...with hopes, and fears, and dreams...
@jeffbatke4902
@jeffbatke4902 3 года назад
He’s buried in plain site but only family knows we’re and what name is on headstone and they are not talking
@TalonID
@TalonID 3 года назад
Not so sure about the headstone comment...or buried in plain site. He isn't buried where many say he is.
@elchoya8770
@elchoya8770 4 года назад
he looks like BILLY THE KID
@charlestaylor8566
@charlestaylor8566 3 года назад
As they say out west , what a lot of bullocks !
@elixtido1448
@elixtido1448 3 года назад
Someone is a dead ringer for Newt Gingrich's voice, who happens to have PhD in history
@Nathulhu
@Nathulhu 3 года назад
LET'S GO MR VOORHEES
@clydecessna737
@clydecessna737 3 года назад
The teacher should stop wasting the students' time and drill them on the 3 Rs.
@brettfreeman1574
@brettfreeman1574 2 года назад
You're right.....research requires a lot of reading, writing , and at times math calculations. What a perfect lesson plan for students to experience!
@TopOfTheMoney
@TopOfTheMoney 3 месяца назад
My favorite cousin
@michaelratliff9449
@michaelratliff9449 2 года назад
I saw Elvis in there
@TalonID
@TalonID 3 года назад
The man sitting on the trolly is my Great, Great Grandfather. His name was Henry Sumsion, of Sumsion Bros Construction based out of Springville, UT. (The Sumsions and the Dallin's founded Springville.) Henry was recovering from a fall off a horse. Henry and his team built the road & railroad up Provo Canyon. Yes, the gentlemen to his right is a pretty famous guy. When he needed to make some extra money, he looked up his old friend, my GGGF for some work. This was after Butch had some cosmetic work done while hiding in Europe. BTW, my own brother's name is Butch (after you know who). This photo is the real deal and is dated.
@elchoya100
@elchoya100 6 лет назад
you think those kids really care about butch cassidy,probably never heard of him.
@pesikimoana3270
@pesikimoana3270 6 лет назад
you obviously haven't been to Utah then. we're all about that.
@-elchoya9832
@-elchoya9832 4 года назад
@@pesikimoana3270 yeah
@81kentboy
@81kentboy Год назад
He's a fictional character
@FriendwithNoName7
@FriendwithNoName7 6 месяцев назад
No he isn't haha, there weren't 5000$ bounties nor national searches for a fictional person.
@joydivision5948
@joydivision5948 5 лет назад
I think they survived, if they don’t catch you they mark you off as dead to deter the public from following in their footsteps. It happens all the time with history they just don’t teach it. But the photo didn’t look like Butch to me
@DarkeningSkies1
@DarkeningSkies1 3 года назад
I think, sadly, that Sundance escaped Bolivia but Butch bought it.
@TalonID
@TalonID 3 года назад
the photo was taken after Butch had some "work" done on his face to hide his identity. His cosmetic surgery was done during the year they hid out in Europe is well documented...
@garyjordan4735
@garyjordan4735 3 года назад
Unless he had a nose job, that's not him.
@brettfreeman1574
@brettfreeman1574 2 года назад
case closed
@chardi7
@chardi7 3 года назад
on my dads account on youtube
@michaelkurz9067
@michaelkurz9067 5 лет назад
Not convinced
@swaze_faze517
@swaze_faze517 2 года назад
I’m telling you man. This man has a point, he matched up everything in the rail road picture Voorhess spent hours matching stuff up looking at the smallest details, he believes that they went to South America in 1901 but cam right back to SLC, and took the rail road picture with the Sundance kid.
@howardsmith9342
@howardsmith9342 5 лет назад
It just seems implausible that two men who made a living robbing trains would go to work for the railroad. Did they think nobody would recognize them?
@TalonID
@TalonID 3 года назад
read my note, he went to work for his life long friend whom owned a construction company. BTW - the company still exits.
@howardsmith9342
@howardsmith9342 3 года назад
@@TalonID I suppose he could have worked for a contractor who was working on the railroad. Is there a good date for the picture? Butch and Sundance could have worked for a short time between heists before they lit out for Bolivia. But I don't see a reason to get anywhere near the railroad, when half of Wells Fargo and Union Pacific was looking for them. I believe it to be probable they came back. I don't know what happened to Sundance, but Butch is said to have lived in Spokane where he "died" again in 1935. He is also rumored to have survived that also, only to die for real in a mining accident in Nevada in the 1950s. We may never know the whole story.
@TalonID
@TalonID 3 года назад
@@howardsmith9342 don't confuse "The Railroad" with a Springville UT based construction company. Keep in mind, those that liked Butch protected his identity due his "Robin hood" behavior. I don't know who too this photo but many were taken by Smithsonian photographers sent West by the US government to keep an eye on those political (voted in blocks) Mormons. Many photos can be found in both BYU archives as well as the Smithsonian. Most are dated. I'm familiar with the tragic accident at the Johnnie...I don't believe that the man killed was Butch.
@howardsmith9342
@howardsmith9342 3 года назад
@@TalonID Like I said, he may have worked for a contractor, not the railroad itself. And he did have fans who would have protected his identity. But I would, if I were him, be worried that some railroad official or inspector would happen along that day and recognize him. And I just read that a grave at a mine near Goodsprings, Nevada was dug up (is that where the Johnnie Mine is?) but DNA showed the deceased was not a match with any living Parker relatives. So maybe you're right.
@brettfreeman1574
@brettfreeman1574 3 года назад
@@howardsmith9342 The photograph was taken around November 1, 1901
@judyallen5929
@judyallen5929 4 года назад
Unfortunately, no provenance...
@dianayount2122
@dianayount2122 2 года назад
don't think that is true.
@hey.hombre
@hey.hombre 5 лет назад
Butch Cassidy debate? Ok let me end the debate. Butch Cassidy is dead.
@brianlamar5167
@brianlamar5167 3 года назад
He died in the 1930s
@1256nytom
@1256nytom 5 лет назад
no way
@freakindawgen
@freakindawgen 3 года назад
Thats Billy The Kid.
@Jacksonpatmides
@Jacksonpatmides 2 года назад
How?
@Cavalier.440
@Cavalier.440 2 года назад
That's 2:23 I wasted. 😏
@njuham
@njuham 2 года назад
Well it's bull isn't it?
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