NEW Polestar 4 vs OLD Tesla Model Y - Which do I buy and why? 

yikes, such decisively bad taste going with polestar

@@j0404t better than going with the plain boring looking tesla...

@@j0404t Tesla's are boring now. when people talk about 3s and Ys it's always about practicality. People don't buy sports cars or luxury cars because they're practical, it's because they're status symbols. Right now, if you own a tesla, it's the equivalent to owning a toyota or honda. People are officially tired of cheap, boring teslas, regardless of their practicality and charging network cause everyone has one. A luxury segment for BEVs WILL be a thing. it's just reality.

@@suvann540i “right now if you own a Tesla, that’s equivalent to owning a Toyota or Honda” You couldn’t be more wrong 😂 in what universe is this true?

@@wr8thbeatz322 pull up to a red light. There will be three around you. Just like Camrys. Facts.

For sure!

The tesla model y is about 60k € in most of europe

@@Kurre. Polestar is more expensive on finance usually and the base model is more expensive

​@Olle Borgström It's 47k€ in eu, don't know where you're getting your wrong info, not to mention Tesla has all equipment as standard

@Luka Bošnjak eh no. If I go on the tesla page the price is listed as 650 000kr which is equivalent to ~60k €.

The polestar 2 is more expensive than the model 3 yet its still outselling the 3 in many countries including Germany.

The cupra looks off to me .. the p4 looks complete

I have ordered it in black❤

Same

Tesla for the poor and Polestar for the rich. I got the Tesla Y also. I have ordered the Polestar 4. A big big upgrade.

@@andreasl4507 Honestly I'm done with Tesla the moment the Rivian R2 comes out. Their customer service is beyond poor.

PS2 2024 is as good and even better than the Model 3. So it’s all good. Polestar cost more then Tesla in all ways but it’s becouse polestar is a more special brand and only the best can have one.

@@andreasl4507 I own a PS2 LE Performance.. I bought it for a reason, I know Polestar is different. But pure efficiency, etc, Tesla still has the edge in that + pricing. (In my country at least) But that doesn't mean it's subjectively better. The MY24 update is good yes but objective, raw spec for spec, etc.. Tesla still has the edge. But Polestar doesn't cater to the masses and it shouldn't. It's no volume brand, Tesla is. Anyways, no use on responding on a 10month old comment tbh. 😅

Polestars have over the air updates just as Tesla

False. Polestar 3 has an ev dedicated platform

@@plastiquemaraj8839 Yes. However, the SPA2-platform started as a Fossil/EV-platform. Dont know if there still exists any compromises because of that.

Yes, but if you rule out the design alone, EV6 or I5 or most others cannot compete with Tesla ..EV6 doesnt even have OTA capabilities:) Tesla is simpel in many ways, but feels lightyears ahead of most in the most important areas. I alone love YP look and it has grown more on me the last weeks. It is a freaking amazing car

@@Mr.Relaxed It doesn't feel "light years" ahead in important areas that I define like body construction, ride, quietness. The Y looks and seems its age to me.

that tavascan looks like the p4 and purosangue had a baby, and the darkrebel looks clinically insane in a way you just gotta respect them for

It's not really minimalistic. It's more workspace environment. Polestar is minimalist. There is some attention paid to details in minimalism.

Yeah, I don't know about anyone else, but I always skip the spec and tech bit.

Correction and this is for a lot of people. Polestar is a Swedish brand and not a Chinese brand. And the car is based on Zeekr001 and that is a Swedish design, not a Chinese design. Because Polestar or Volvo or owned by a Chinese brand does not make them Chinese brands. Polestar is run by former Volvo engineers and designers. It is a Swedish brand that started off as a racing brand, then the sports tuner for Volvo (and you can find the Volvo s60 and XC60 Polestar, the so called sleeper cars from Volvo available for sales now). Geely really has little to do with the content in Volvos and certainly doesn't style them. A different styling team styles Volvos vs. Geely cars or other Geely brands so there is no connection to cars styled by Polestar vs. those from Volvo and Polestar. There are two exceptions but these are still Swedish designed cars. The Volvo EM90 is based on the Zeekr009 and is a rebrand. The Polestar 4 is a reskin of the Zeekr001, and if you Google who designed that car, it was done by teams in Sweden, but Zeekr, not Polestar, teams. Polestar adapted from the Zeekr style in the Polestar 4. The Polestar 3 is very different as it was entirely designed by Polestar as is the 2, 5 and 6. Only the 4 is based on.a Zeekr. As for Zeekr, it is a CEVT car and is partially engineered in Sweden. It is a co-Chinese/Swedish vehicle. And as for platforms, the Polestar 4 rides on the Geely SEA platform. But before anyone says that's Chinese, the chief engineer of that project is an ex-Saab engineer named Kent Bovellan. So, for the most part, Geely is using some Swedish design and engineering in some of their brands (along with some Chinese engineering). Also, Geely is a group and brand. Geely Holding, the group, owns Polestar, Volvo, Lotus, etc. while Geely Auto, is a Chinese market brand similar to how Volkswagen is a brand and group.

Shockingly bad suspension though

@@vincentohanlon Well, it was before maybe..but honestly, on normal roads, highways and stuff, its a very comfortable car..suspension on 023 models are way better than before. There are ofcourse much softer, boat like suspensions, but would rather have the YP and its amazing handling compared to driving a car with boat feel. But to each its own

@@vincentohanlon Anyway, even though the suspenison is tuned to a more sporty drive, that doesnt mean its "bad" suspension. Its not at all, its a superb suspension, just not as soft as many prefer:)

@@Mr.Relaxed not sure about the roads in Norway, but I would also guess that the roads are generally in much better condition than in North America. Our roads in places are pretty bad with potholes, rough surfaces, and other things that make stiff or bad suspension that much more punishing. I’ve also never had complaints about the Tesla suspension in the few I’ve ridden in, but have mostly driven/ridden in economy cars (cheaper Hondas, Toyotas, etc.) throughout my life that are not as insulated from the road noise/surface.

@@Mr.RelaxedAbsolutely, sporty does not mean bad. But Tesla suspension has been quite bad. I have heard new ones are better. Tesla's philosophy is to create as cheap cars as possible in it is definitely visible all over. Does that matter is then more personal taste I guess. Still -23 M3P was quite unsophisticated in my taste (superb would not be word I would use with Tesla chassis tuning) ... Polestars are in quite different level. For my wife both probably would be perfectly OK, but I like things which are with quality and made with love to make great products. Just not cheap products. But that said, cheap can be still pretty good value for money.

Is it better in build quality, ride, handling, quietness?

There is also the Tesla charging network. Polestar doesn’t have one.

@@richb2229 Yep, but you can charge on superchargers .. so no big deal. Polestar is also updated constantly and is safe. Y is good option if you want to to 'cheap out' way.

I noticed the P4 has a rear view mirror. Unless it’s a screen, why?

It's not. It's a different platform and Polestar 2 is designed by Volvo 5 years earlier than the Polestar 4, which is based on the framework of a Zeekr001. They're nothing alike. The 4 is a lot larger as well.

How is the model y better?

@@plastiquemaraj8839 They are incredibly efficient. Don’t just take my word for it though, there are tons of comparison tests on the internet. My Model Y in particular is averaging 230wh/miles over 2 years of ownership and 20,000 miles. They are also incredibly space efficient, reliable, and still have the best charging infrastructure. Tesla also don’t get enough credit for their software prowess, but they are amongst the best in that regard as well. Now, the cars are incredibly boring, I can admit that. After 2 years some of the lust has definitely wore off. But as a functional vehicle, it is still best in class. I get 250 miles of range, I have 3 rows of seats, I have a bigger trunk and frunk, I have a tow hitch and 3,500lbs of towing limit, all of things that I use daily that this Polestar and many other competitors (GV60, Ionic 5, EV6, Mach E, XC40, RX450e) cannot do. The charging network is the mail in the coffin.

@@plastiquemaraj8839 price, charging speed, range, fast charger system. The polestar looks a lot better though.

​@Madison 3 have you tested out or driven the polestar to be jumping to conclusions like that? For all you know, the polestar could be just as good...

@@JH-Carbon No I have not driven it, but we have the XC40 Recharge, Polestar 2 and Polestar 3 as examples. The Polestar 3 for example has a 27% bigger battery than the Model Y yet Polestar only quotes 300 miles of range. The Model Y LR is quoted at 330. And no you won’t get that in the real world, but I’ve gotten 295 which is still impressive for only having a 75kWh battery. The XC40 Recharge doesn’t get anywhere close to the Model Y’a range despite being significantly smaller. This is not a knock on Polestar, Tesla had a 10 year head start, and it shows. The Model Y is appliance perfected.

Honestly, it has better space efficiency than the Polestar.

I loved Teslas approach in the beginning, the commitment to classic styling and minimalism was refreshing and interesting. At this point, so many companies both legacy automakers and startups are taking the same minimalist approach, but adding much more quality, craftsmanship, and braver design with some personality/signature. It makes it hard to get excited about Teslas now. Good, functional cars, but more like buying a new dishwasher or smartphone

The P4 has LONGER range than the MY. It is a larger battery for one thing that enables that long range. Per mile though the P4 use more energy than the MY, thereby the lower efficiency

They didn't copy the Y. The Y has a back window and no driver's display, for instance. These are quite different cars.

Sounds like the old apple vs samsung debate lol

This Polestar is based on a Zeekr. Polestar is about Scandinavian design and Tesla has been called minimalism but I think it's more centered toward its interface where Polestar is into textures, muted colors and sustainable materials, basically the same sort of stuff Volvo does..

@@benjaminsmith2287 that sounds cute and all, but they do claim minimalism yet their end products are never ever minimalist.

@@biggeststeppa1 Scandinavian minimalism is not Tesla minimalism.

@@benjaminsmith2287 minimalism is objective, it's not subjective. somethings are facts, they're set in stone and despite your tantrums, opinions and freedom of speech they don't change.

@@biggeststeppa1 Yeah, whatever you say is right. Bye.

Unfortunately you will get your death in a decade or 2.

Been there done that.