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New V1.9 ACC Physics Update Comparison

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We take a look at the updated physics for ACC with patch V1.9, comparing the cars handling to the previous version of the game.
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@peterbrorsson5714 Год назад

I did not really have any exploits but I still felt like I was driving in a drifting game after this update. A LOT of oversteer. It will take time to get setups in order to make the car drivable again.

@Fly-ip8vq Год назад

Yeah that is most likely a setup issue man. I’ve noticed any setups from before v1.9 are oversteer heavy

@HaasWheelbarrow Год назад

With the 1.9 update, it seems like the speed of the BMW M4 GT3 has been buffed on my point of view. It gets to around 283km/h on Conrod Straight with the rear wing set to position 4. Previously it would only reach around 275km/h on 1.8. Can anyone confirm?

@seebl3273 Год назад

Every car on every track is faster now. The rolling resistance of the tires was lowered. According to what i saw and experienced, topspeeds are now more equal.

@Yorkie065 Год назад

Correct.

@nanthilrodriguez Год назад

Nobody needs to confirm, just read the changelogs. Acceleration and rolling resistance is changed so you should see higher top speeds

@Riotlight Год назад

Yorkie, are you using track ir or the in game “turn with wheel option”, and how come you use that camera position? I was using what looks to be your camera position, but noticed the other day while browsing though streamers that everyone seems to use the camera that is glued in position and a bit closer to the wheel. As I was having trouble seeing the apex on some corners with your camera position (even with camera move with turn) I decided to change to what everyone else was using. It is better for seeing the apex but I’m a lot slower as all my reference points have changed and there is more sense of speed (which is bad). So just wondering what you use and why.

@Yorkie065 Год назад

I am using TrackIR, yeah, and it's why I use the camera position I use as it is more immersive. I don't mind the A-pillar being there in the way and can work with it.

@sunsetsdripping Год назад

the setup with exploits made you fight the car, with the aggressive one it seemed you were actually driving it so its something ig

@Yorkie065 Год назад

Pretty much exactly that. With the new physics, the previous exploits don't work and make the car more difficult to drive. So now, you have to take a more realistic approach to the setups with more realistic / reasonable values.

@sunsetsdripping Год назад

@@Yorkie065 been waiting for this update for so long, im glad kunos made such a good work fixing the setup exploits

@jimjones_koolaid Год назад

More rotation from the car??? I can’t get the thing to turn after the update. I’ve spent hours and hours trying to dial it in with new update and I can’t even get one clean lap in even on my best tracks 😢. I’m really about to give up

@rankisdumb214 Год назад

whats weird to ,me is i can do 1:44s with ease at the hungara ring with basic normal set ups.. I used the audi with a few adjustments to the damping,,, regular toe, regular caster, regular damping.. now the car feels absolutely horrible. feels like i lose all front grip once i turn wheel past 25 degrees... i understand people used Exploits but they werent necessary needed.. I can guarentee the exploits for this update will be worse in order to get cars to drive somewhat normally

@bmwM3M5M6 Год назад

INDEED My car was R8 the whole time on 1.8 and had good performance with it. Now indriveable on aggressive/safe setup even on exploits so yeah need to choode another car

@matthewbyrd398 Год назад

Thanks, Matt! Great video, as always!

@reviewforthetube6485 3 месяца назад

I like the oversteer issue alot better then understeer. Most had issues turning in now it makes rhe pkaying more even alll of yalls setups dont have as much of an advantage now. We can still turn in the car without them now. Cant use the same exploits lol. As you stated you need to take a more realistic approach now whcih should be the point of a sim lol Not to exploit the game and it be very unrealisitc without losing grip like ever On a stock setup only 3 10ths of a second off. Yeah shows speed is fine. Without even adapting lol i love the tire slip feeling also. Im not one who wants an easy exploited game and or sim lol.

@mauro_solve Год назад

Yorkie number one!! Thanks Matt

@mistertheking Год назад

A step in the right direction to remove exploits.

@jamarcus_OG Год назад

So now competition is based more on the actual skill level of the drivers instead of the exploited setups. I'm no setup expert here, so i've always run with aggressive setup with minor tweaks to tire pressure and fuel load , purely based on track conditions. Well , i was able to stay in the low top 10 at Spa and Monza and possibly Nurburgring with the top 3 basically uncatchable. Now the exploiters have no more sneaky setups and i can stay much closer to the front pack and get on the podium from time to time , while having much better racing because the cars all react in the same way , without crazy top speeds or cornering speeds. Thank you Kunos

@nanthilrodriguez Год назад

Don't think meta is an exploit. It was more an engine limitation. Just because something isn't congruent with reality doesn't make it an exploit.

@bmwM3M5M6 Год назад

@@jamarcus_OG They will find other expolits believe me

@1rv1n30 Год назад

Very informative video, thanks Matt! There's always so much quality in your content 💯

@pedromedina2692 Год назад

Hey, great video!! Do you use a kind of head motion tracking system? I'm interested if that's the case, I see three dots on the side of your head too 😅

@Yorkie065 Год назад

I do yeah, I use TrackIR 5

@M13krt.esportsim Год назад

Great video 👍 Could you share your trackir settings? It looks great. Thanks for this analysis.

@TheCe1ticZombie Год назад

Would also appreciate the trackir settings.

@Yorkie065 Год назад

If you follow my discord link in the video description, and then go to the sim-rigs-and-gear channel, in there I have my TrackIR profile pinned for people to use.

@TheCe1ticZombie Год назад

@@Yorkie065 Thanks. Appreciate the help.

@M13krt.esportsim Год назад

@@Yorkie065 thanks man 😉💪

@Haltzo 8 месяцев назад

changing front and rear brake pads down isn't giving you better braking, it's just making it generate more heat in the brakes. also, you are way too agressive with your steering input, hence why the car is being agressive back. if you are smooth with the steering, the car won't snap on you as much aswell, you are making the car unstable by snapping the steering wheel so much.

@racecrashrepeat Год назад

I've never seen non symmetrical tyre pressures apart from like oval racing. Is that normal?

@Yorkie065 Год назад

That wasn't necessarily intended. I had just made some quick adjustments to get them in the right sort of window for the video. Nothing refined or optimised about them.

@gasixteenb11 Год назад

Could see myself doing fun laps with Audi

@salgshaka4483 Год назад

I cant lie im really loving it to the fullest especially ferrari and Porsche new ones dont like Lamborghini more on camera angle not a fan of driving in the middle like McLaren but drives really well and the force feed back although im using logitech GT Still feels amazing

@LJSR07 Год назад

I like this new version. I agree with your evaluation it seems more enjoyable. however, can seem a little safe and tricky as hell, on the rear-ends.

@lukaskrabec5236 Год назад

ty for this Matt!

@TheMitko2222 Год назад

Hey ! i saw some people discussing the game being more "heavy" on the CPU/GPU now is that a thing or the FPS you get is still around the same?

@Yorkie065 Год назад

I've seen no difference in performance my end. I've seen it been asked, but Aris (the lead physics developer) has said that the added physics calculations have not had an impact on performance and there's no differences.

@TheMitko2222 Год назад

@@Yorkie065 Thank you for the reply! il hop on the new DLC tonight

@mark_lhr3 Год назад

Default setups are still absolutely shocking.

@truantray Год назад

The biggest changes are the physics hacks people have been using will no longer work. So all those paid setups are now useless. ACC needs to open up transparent setups or fixed setups. Far too much cheating going on.

@Yorkie065 Год назад

The paid setups will get adjusted. I know CDA has already been working on setups for the update today. How much exactly they've changed, I don't know as I use my own.

@arachno000 Год назад

what ffb settings are you runing with your T300?

@dereksmalls6238 Год назад

Thanks for the video on the update. Just reinstalling the game after a HDD fail...

@KenSin7113 Год назад

kunos announced this patch will effect mercedes amg gt3. how about amg gt3? Is really more seneitivity? good?

@Yorkie065 Год назад

There's been some tweaks I believe as they've gotten more data from Merc teams. It feels good, but I didn't really drive it prior to V1.9 so hard to really say.

@snippidippi Год назад

This update have made the cars easier and more agile to drive and makes it bit easer to go faster, at least that feeling i got yesterday. And I'm happy kunos have changed the physics so much that you can't really make the full caster/no suspension glitch setups that all esporters used, now you need to actually need to make a real setup.

@Car3stash Год назад

I'm not sure about that, I was sliding around a lot more with a much safer setup yesterday than previously and when I was watching streamers they were also doing the same. Trailbraking is also a lot harder. I'm not sure if it's been concluded yet but I'd bet this patch have made everyone slower in terms of laptime so far.

@snippidippi Год назад

@Matyas Keresztes yes your right, trailbraking was way harder but cornering and finding grip out of corners and doing attacks was easier for me. But I'm lost at setups as everything is different there. Best thing was that tire pressure wasn't crucial as before then 0.2psi made you loose 1-2s per lap or something

@jimjones_koolaid Год назад

False, I can’t even drive now.. and I’ve spent hours trying to adjust accordingly and I can’t dial it in…. Much more understeer..loss of traction while braking.. it’s really frustrating and I’m really about to give up😢

@snippidippi Год назад

@jimbojones7044 for me it was opposite, 1.8 I had random grip losses all the time, like 10 good laps and suddenly out of nowhere it just lost grip and crashed. In 1.9 I don't have that anymore

@295414417 Год назад

What settings you have on your 'camera turn with wheel" ?

@Yorkie065 Год назад

I don't use any of the in-game settings, I'm using TrackIR 5 which tracks my real head movement and puts that in-game.

@Dylantuning1995 Год назад

I'm glad with the new update, and my professional setup (which is bought and developed by a racing driver/engineer) now felt useless, so hope he brings out an update and see how that will progress.. Been playing mostly with the Ferrari 296GT3 and it sticks and it's a beast but drove the '19 Bentley Continental yesterday and my god is it horrendous, no brakes, constant sliding and it seems to be slower. The update has good points and some bad, I still feel the sudden loss of grip every now and then but overall this is so much better and honestly makes racing way more fun and tighter in packs.

@Adri_AC Год назад

I went from 1.49.2 in Monza to 1.48.3. Is that normal? I see a lot of people saying it's slower and I feel like the weird kid in class. The only possible explanation that I see is that I used a free set up that I found in a youtube video but that set up was from v1.8

@MitchChubey Год назад

It's the new tire rolling resistance. It's now lower . Expect 10 to 12 km/h faster on the straights. On a track like monza that would make a huge difference.

@snappedbydan Год назад

Yeah Aris talked about this, the new tyre model will be faster on some tracks and slower on others.

@stevendemoss6609 Год назад

Does anyone play acc on ps4? Haven't received the update and I'm really upset. Any help from anyone will be much appreciated

@retroybd2780 Год назад

The PlayStation 4 and Xbox One consoles are "old gen" and haven't been updated in quote some time. I'm afraid that there won't be anymore updates for old gen consoles, but only current gen (the PlayStation 5, Xbox Series X/S and PC) will receive the new updates, although the current gen consoles have their updated from this game months after the PC gets theirs.

@mgerim Год назад

Can you do a video of you headtracking settings?

@dustinhodell Год назад

Anybody know when this update comes to ps4? Can't seem to find it anywhere. Love you Yorkie! You've been my ACC shaman with those detailed track guides. Looking forward to the dlc

@Yorkie065 Год назад

No word on console updates as of yet, unfortunately. At least not from what I have heard.

@truantray Год назад

Console versions are made by another company. So expect months of delay. If you want to get serious about sim racing, buy a PC.

@mikejames2224 Год назад

Random newb question… how do you get the camera to move with the car turning like that?

@slaphead90 Год назад

@@mikejames2224 He's using a "Track IR" device which detects head movement. I've got one and it works great, but I can't use it otherwise I'll throw up - which is funny as I've no problem with VR in any game.

@gasixteenb11 Год назад

PS4 will never get any more updates since 1.6. Only PS5. PS4 has reach it's limits for updates.

@test868 Год назад

Your untidy first lap on 1.9 looks more composed than my best laps around Hungaroring

@ieuanm Год назад

I don't get motion sick but these camera settings made me feel physically ill while watching this video 😂

@Sim-903 Год назад

so what are the optimum tire pressures now?

@waynedarwin8166 Год назад

26 to 27 psi. Lower get more flex,grip and heat but wears out faster ie good for qualifying. Higher psi is for races

@Bremen323 Год назад

Does anyone also noticed worse AI after update? Physics seems to be better

@bmwM3M5M6 Год назад

You need to make a vid with all cars end there topspeed on 0 wing and 0 brake ducts and same ambient/track temperature and day of time and that on Paul Ricard. Seeing if all cars topspeed match each other…Because IRL overtaking on Paul Ricard the long straight ain’t so easy but 1.8 ACC one car is like 1s behind and at the end he catches you which aint realistic EVEN with slipstream. Look at Paul Ricard Real GT3 races and you’ll know

@Yorkie065 Год назад

There's a lot more nuance to it than that though. I can say for a fact that all cars will not produce the same top speed, as that's just not the nature of GT3 racing. All cars are different and make their lap times in different ways, some on the straights and others in the corners. As to why there are differences in slip stream in reality vs the game, there's various factors at play there too. Obviously physics and not everything perhaps being quite 100% accurate or fully simulated, but also the fact that the GT3 race at PR is a proper endurance race that lasts a good 8 or so hours. Drivers can quite easily be choosing to sit in the slip stream of the car in front and fuel save to extend stints and manage tyres, compared to us gamers who are pretty much flat out all the time.

@bmwM3M5M6 Год назад

@@Yorkie065 Well I didn’t looked it that way especially about Paul Ricard… Thanks for the clear information, appreciate it 👍🏁

@Bmoncrief Год назад

What camera settings is he using?

@Yorkie065 Год назад

Standard cockpit camera, but I use TrackIR 5 which is tracking my natural head movement and putting that in-game in the same way that VR does. That's what is causing the camera movement.

@Bmoncrief Год назад

@@Yorkie065 thanks man!

@slaphead90 Год назад

Oh it's a game changer alright, it's made the game undriveable for me.

@strlinr2560 Год назад

Change your setup. You can’t use the weird setup exploits anymore. Tuning is realistic now.

@Yorkie065 Год назад

How so?

@slaphead90 Год назад

@@strlinr2560 I'm not using weird setups, just the aggressive one

@slaphead90 Год назад

@@Yorkie065 I turn, back end goes, i'm in the wall

@Yorkie065 Год назад

The car does rotate a lot more than previously. You probably are and have been turning too much.

@cat-yi9cg Год назад

They made it more real were u can not use negative toe and camber to the max as it should be. Great job by the developers to recognize unrealistic physics

@mark_lhr3 Год назад

Hardly a game changer. Ffb feels weird. Evidently many others feel the same. There are some fixes to be made. Pads 2 best though.

@Woopass90 Год назад

Is ACC stil crap in VR?

@1xRacer Год назад

Depends on your pc

@Davids6994 Год назад

Gotta use OpenXR

@abexuro Год назад

What was bad about it? I hadn't played ACC in years until this update. I remember being put off by the amount of bouncing the car does, which was unbearable to me in VR. I tried it for a bit today and it seems OK so far.