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NHL PROTOTYPES 2: Designing the ’90s 

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From the creation of the NHL’s original third jersey program to the birth of several expansion teams, join me for an inside look at prototype logo and jersey designs like never before-featuring in-depth interviews with the designers!
In the 1990s, The Mednick Group was one of the NHL’s top design agencies-charged with developing new team identities and some of the league’s first alternate uniforms. Dan Simon and Ken Loh were among the creative forces behind those designs and are sharing the inside story!
▪️ CHAPTERS ▪️
00:00 - Introduction
00:51 - Meet Dan Simon & Ken Loh
03:10 - The Florida Blockbusters
05:25 - Birth of the Burger King
06:34 - Trying Teal in Philly
08:29 - Replacing the Whalers
09:45 - Collaboration for Columbus
11:05 - Bonus: Developing the Wild
11:54 - Bonus: Sabres Sneak Peek
This video showcases a variety of rejected designs created under the guidance of NHL franchises. Enjoy more from this series:
Part 1: What Might Have Been ▸ • NHL PROTOTYPES 1: What...
Part 3: Gone But Not Forgotten ▸ • NHL PROTOTYPES 3: Gone...
Special thanks to Dan Simon of www.studiosimon.net and Ken Loh for taking the time to share their experiences while working for The Mednick Group in the 1990s.
Featured teams include the Buffalo Sabres, Carolina Hurricanes (Hartford Whalers), Columbus Blue Jackets, Florida Panthers, Los Angeles Kings, Minnesota Wild, and Philadelphia Flyers.
Includes original artwork by The Mednick Group, Dan Simon, Ken Loh, Van Duong, Peter Thornburgh, SME Design, and Steve O’Laughlin.

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@connorbaetzhold2669
@connorbaetzhold2669 3 года назад
Wish the Jersey concept community was bigger. These videos are SO interesting and well made, deserve more views and likes
@mattnorris7124
@mattnorris7124 3 года назад
I feel like I have a lot of good design ideas, just no way of bringing them to life because I'm severely, physically artistically limited
@TheHeston83
@TheHeston83 3 года назад
wish Teams would give them more looks as well
@gabuz672
@gabuz672 3 года назад
It’s so weird how this is best quality stuff you could get yet there’s only 5k subs
@icethetics
@icethetics 3 года назад
Thanks, Gabriel! We just gotta keep spreading the word, right?
@ianf9253
@ianf9253 3 года назад
@@icethetics I didn’t even know you had a RU-vid channel-this stuff is fantastic. All of your work is fantastic-THANK YOU.
@evanbenetti7952
@evanbenetti7952 2 года назад
Honestly, he makes super high quality videos
@evanbenetti7952
@evanbenetti7952 2 года назад
I’m here before he blew up🙌🙌
@josephbarkley3301
@josephbarkley3301 Год назад
I agree I love this stuff
@hehehe4364
@hehehe4364 3 года назад
Insanely high quality!
@astrotopia1417
@astrotopia1417 3 года назад
I feel like I’m watching NHL Network, well done!
@johnf6063
@johnf6063 3 года назад
This is better than NHL Network
@RB-ll8qc
@RB-ll8qc 3 года назад
This could be a mini series 10 hours long and I would watch every bit of it.
@zaedrah3378
@zaedrah3378 2 года назад
dude Ken Loh's Panthers design is seriously so sick. Looks like it could have been their look in another life
@subraxas
@subraxas 2 года назад
I think that they could still use it as a shoulder patch on one of their future third jerseys.
@duckmedia93
@duckmedia93 3 года назад
I've never clicked on a video so fast. I love this
@CreightonRabs
@CreightonRabs 3 года назад
I remember being a sports editor of a small college newspaper in New Hampshire in the 1990s and we were lucky enough to be one of the first publications to publish the new Patriots logo in 1993. We might have actually published it on the same day in was released (our newspaper had a Tuesday deadline for a Wednesday publication) but I can't recall off the top of my head. That was a pretty cool moment for us. Yes, I know this is about hockey logos, but the fact that you featured the guy who designed the Pats logo triggered that memory for me.
@stephenhawkingsfootballboo7885
@stephenhawkingsfootballboo7885 2 года назад
I also seem to remember watching a Pats halftime show where they brought out huge versions of the then current 'Pat the Patriot' logo and the one they have now. They asked fans to applaud to show which logo they liked the best. Pat the Patriot was the clear winner, but two years later they came out with the new one anyway!
@jreiland07
@jreiland07 3 года назад
Logos like those of the Flyers and Habs are iconic because they don’t try to do too much. No more than two or three colors and a shape that can be drawn from memory. Being associated with a successful era in a team’s history also helps.
@ethanhatcher5533
@ethanhatcher5533 3 года назад
Winged Liberty Bell logo was kinda sick ngl And at the same time, full body Stinger is beyond cursed
@scootscootriot1020
@scootscootriot1020 3 года назад
Stinger was an absolute horror show. I love the current logo. Which was their third jersey at the time. I was so happy they kept it.
@mattnorris7124
@mattnorris7124 3 года назад
That font type for the Flyers was also dope, it stands up even against what we have being produced now
@Rockman_Halo
@Rockman_Halo 3 года назад
GOD these videos are so cool. That flyers logo with the wings and the unused word mark are rad
@emmettjenkins6122
@emmettjenkins6122 3 года назад
If the NHL itself tried to create a video on this topic, it would not even touch the quality and depth of this video. Perfection.
@icethetics
@icethetics 3 года назад
Thanks Emmett! Glad you enjoyed it!
@DJVexillum
@DJVexillum 3 года назад
I was actually at that event in the old Aud where the new logo concepts were being previewed. I was just a kid back then but it was very sneaky that there was absolutely no red and black on display.
@kevinhover461
@kevinhover461 3 года назад
Black and Red was to appease John Rigas since he was taking a minority stake (at the time) in the team.
@iBendThings
@iBendThings Год назад
That Flyers jersey design feels like it would work well with almost any logo. Love that design. Good job, Ken.
@Becksy_93
@Becksy_93 3 года назад
Okay, but seriously. The quality, entertainment factor and the communicated amount of information in these videos is insane! I’m not even that hugely into hockey, like I’d consider myself a casual watcher, but as someone who is greatly into sports and jerseys in general this channel is a revelation! Keep up the fantastic work!
@icethetics
@icethetics 3 года назад
Thank you for the kind words! Happy to hear you're enjoying the videos.
@scottwunder9473
@scottwunder9473 3 года назад
Love these videos Chris , can you pleeeeasse do a full video on the Vancouver Canucks logo history ..I would love to see prototypes from 1970 to other ideas before they switched to the Flying V and before the orca.
@koteras1284
@koteras1284 3 года назад
If I could buy stock on youtube channels I'd be all in on this channel. Love the content & production value!
@SolidSnake684
@SolidSnake684 3 года назад
Amazing video! I could watch stuff like this for hours. Logo and jersey design has always been a key factor in my love for hockey, and videos like these make me feel like less of a weirdo for talking my family's ear off about jersey design in the middle of a game.
@jgp7414
@jgp7414 3 года назад
Wow I never realized that the wild logo was a head!!
@nickjones9304
@nickjones9304 3 года назад
being a wild fan, I hear this a lot. I think that is the beauty of their logo though. still catching people by surprise 20 years laters!
@BiG_JJ227
@BiG_JJ227 3 года назад
Sup. Can you do a brand history vid on the canucks? I thought Vancouver is a interesting one to do.
@Sarkono13
@Sarkono13 3 года назад
I have never seen a channel with such a high production quality, most nhl teams don't have production quality for their videos be this good.
@icethetics
@icethetics 3 года назад
Thanks Andrew! Very kind of you to say.
@johnwayne6654
@johnwayne6654 3 года назад
This channel is unfuckingbelivably great...it’s hard to find videos on this level of excellence for any sport as a whole, let alone hockey... Thank you for the amazing content!!
@icethetics
@icethetics 3 года назад
Thanks for the kind words!
@SageShark
@SageShark 3 года назад
Amazing stuff as always, Chris goes far beyond any level of production we’ve ever seen on this topic 👍🏽
@mcj88
@mcj88 3 года назад
I know the Blue Jackets' stinger logo is oft-maligned, to the point that the team scrapped it before they ever played a game, but honestly I really like it - it's certainly more _interesting,_ IMO at least, than the "CJB" initialism that replaced it.
@michaelmessina1509
@michaelmessina1509 3 года назад
i genuinely thought i was watching a tv documentary then the video ended. amazing stuff you got going!!
@BrazFencil
@BrazFencil Год назад
That Carolina CH anchor logo with the subtle “W” Whalers call back is freaking siiiiiick. I still think they should use it.
@christianmyers9958
@christianmyers9958 3 года назад
These videos are SO well done, can’t believe they don’t have more views.
@Hamlet47x
@Hamlet47x 3 года назад
Love these, keep up the awesome work!
@icethetics
@icethetics 3 года назад
Thanks! Will do!
@robbiebalboa
@robbiebalboa 2 года назад
I’m a soccer Fan but I’m a sucker for Hockey Logos & These rejected concepts are fascinating. Love the content.
@BoggsProductions
@BoggsProductions 3 года назад
Love the vids keep it up!
@pizzazombie5209
@pizzazombie5209 3 года назад
Seeing that scrapped Carolina anchor logo hurts so much. It's so much better than their current identity.
@jgagnier
@jgagnier 3 года назад
3 days into this video's life, not a single dislike. Indeed, what a great job you've done.
@harrierjames7727
@harrierjames7727 3 года назад
Wonderful, quality video as always! Loved seeing that C/H Carolina Hurricanes logo... very different to another logo in the league that incorporates a C and an H!
@Super_Mega_Huge
@Super_Mega_Huge 3 года назад
Hell yeah, y’all are back with another one of these ! Of all the great content y’all have been dropping, these vids are my favorite, no doubt.
@lukeheaton5336
@lukeheaton5336 2 года назад
I’ve watched two of these videos and they are so informative and well crafted that I had to smash that “subscribe” button. This is such a fertile topic, there can be a lot more similar videos. Keep up the great work, don’t sacrifice quantity for quality and I look forward to seeing more of these great videos in the future.
@icethetics
@icethetics 2 года назад
Thanks for the kind words, Luke!
@keenans.gaming2778
@keenans.gaming2778 3 года назад
Omg I was waiting for a new video. This is awesome thank you such well done
@YouTube.Algorithmic.Nonsense
@YouTube.Algorithmic.Nonsense 3 года назад
The production quality of this video is off the charts.
@tatuhiltunen8172
@tatuhiltunen8172 3 года назад
Chris, thank you! Even long time followers get a little bit of new info every episode, and the quality of your content blows my mind. Keep it up, the jersey community is behind you.
@crowblade211
@crowblade211 3 года назад
Wow!! Another great video keep up the good work!
@andrewclarke8630
@andrewclarke8630 3 года назад
Incredible work Chris! Been a fan since NHLToL...keep it coming !!
@thekeegster6278
@thekeegster6278 3 года назад
Logo designs are low key my favorite aspect of sports. The amazing attention to detail and the colors and the amazing art people can come up with for teams really intrigues me! I’m so excited for more! Thank you, Chris!
@joshualanders6779
@joshualanders6779 2 года назад
Love how he is wearing a admirals jersey ! One of my favorite all teams!
@icethetics
@icethetics 2 года назад
Yeah, Dan designed that jersey as well as the team’s logos. Ads will be the subject of a future video!
@davidstraub7295
@davidstraub7295 2 года назад
this is one of the best hockey channels on youtube
@moron95M3
@moron95M3 2 года назад
This is amazing work! Great to hear from the designers, well done!
@willthatcher9686
@willthatcher9686 11 месяцев назад
As a designer and sports fan. love this channel so much. Bless you
@icethetics
@icethetics 11 месяцев назад
Thank you for watching! 💙
@alexnizzardo5639
@alexnizzardo5639 3 года назад
As a sports designer this channel is a gold mine!
@snipewa4
@snipewa4 3 года назад
Very well done. Really great production value and delivery here wow.
@edwardburek1717
@edwardburek1717 3 года назад
This is absolutely amazing!! Please tell me there's a blog accompanying this epic series!!
@icethetics
@icethetics 3 года назад
You can always drop by www.icethetics.com!
@shanielcabral
@shanielcabral 2 года назад
Cycling through those 90’s logos makes me realize how much better they were
@thatguyiguess2694
@thatguyiguess2694 2 года назад
dude, the consistent quality in these videos is astounding, great work!
@icethetics
@icethetics 2 года назад
Much appreciated!
@mikesmith-mt8oc
@mikesmith-mt8oc 3 года назад
Another great video, Chris!!!!
@TrevorAWilliams
@TrevorAWilliams 3 года назад
The production value is incredible! The content is fantastic! One suggestion - music during the interviews - the mix isn't working for me. I wonder if the music volume needs to be lowered or music removed entirely.
@orionataylor
@orionataylor 3 года назад
Another great video. I'm loving this series as there has been a ton of concept art / logos that I've never seen before! Thanks for all the hard work you're putting into these. Top notch!
@icethetics
@icethetics 3 года назад
Thanks Orion! I always love digging up work that hasn’t been seen before.
@paxhumana2015
@paxhumana2015 2 года назад
@@icethetics , on 1:13 in the video, I know that the first two logos are the current Los Angeles Kings logo and the Nashville Predators logo, but what team had the logo that is to the right of the Nashville Predators logo? Please let me know the answer to that question. Thank you.
@JoeyB-2001
@JoeyB-2001 3 года назад
This video blew me away with the quality. This is amazing!
@arcsine
@arcsine 3 года назад
These are awesome. Just needs to get spread around more and subs and views will go up. Like the quality is better than 90% of whats out there too. Please keep at it because I absolutely love this kind of thing. I literally had no idea there was a CB in that CBJ ribbon logo until this video lmaooo
@nathanstone6408
@nathanstone6408 3 года назад
This is so professionally done that I am shocked at how little love this channel has. I am now subscribed and I hope you find the million plus more subs that you deserve!
@icethetics
@icethetics 3 года назад
Thanks, Nathan! I hope so too!
@ClipsThatTakeUpStorageOnMyXbox
@ClipsThatTakeUpStorageOnMyXbox 2 года назад
8:05 that is SICK
@CKdunno
@CKdunno 3 года назад
I love it when y’all do these stuff
@commandershepard1838
@commandershepard1838 3 года назад
I really liked those old blue jackets and Sabres logos (the red, black, and grey one).
@Typokeke
@Typokeke 3 года назад
Wild logo is one of the best!
@Windyyyyyyyyy
@Windyyyyyyyyy 3 года назад
i remember there was a hint at the islanders having multiple more concepts for their 90's jerseys, and they were claimed to be better than the fisherman as well by chris king. I wonder if those design sheets will ever come up again, because im curious what those designs looked ike
@johnf6063
@johnf6063 3 года назад
No way you’re gonna show me the fisherman logo and tease me. Please add it in part 3! Can’t wait :)
@bwgraphics6540
@bwgraphics6540 3 года назад
Loving these vids!
@idontgivetkachuk
@idontgivetkachuk 3 года назад
Very enjoyable!! Great job!!
@philipl5458
@philipl5458 3 года назад
Love this series!
@LucasGates92
@LucasGates92 3 года назад
As always Chris, well done.
@betaraycomics9072
@betaraycomics9072 3 года назад
Wow man, your channel is great!
@arjundhatt
@arjundhatt 3 года назад
What a top-quality video!
@duckattak
@duckattak 3 года назад
Love this series you can tease us with part 73 right now and I’ll be hyped
@Habu12
@Habu12 3 года назад
I used to do this as a kid, redesign stuff. Wish I had kept the work! I sort of made it a career, becoming a draftsman for many years. But I never got to work on big names.
@54CA
@54CA 3 года назад
Love this series
@Hughesfan43
@Hughesfan43 2 года назад
Love your vids!
@baloothepibble8421
@baloothepibble8421 2 года назад
I love logos and the entire process
@ediaz951
@ediaz951 3 года назад
I love this channel so much
@RabidGolfclub
@RabidGolfclub 2 года назад
This guy’s awesome! Can’t say I’m the biggest hockey fan, mostly due to exposure and I really have to go out if my way to watch hockey. But these videos are super interesting and I’d love to see similar stuff about other sports!😅😁
@nickjones9304
@nickjones9304 3 года назад
absolutely awesome video!
@icethetics
@icethetics 3 года назад
Thanks, Nick! Glad you enjoyed it.
@othertwishart
@othertwishart 2 года назад
Not gonna lie, this is phenomenal editing. Your channel should be MUCH bigger.
@icethetics
@icethetics 2 года назад
In time, hopefully. Thank you!
@chevelle1
@chevelle1 2 года назад
Excellent channel, subscribed
@holdynryan8240
@holdynryan8240 3 года назад
Keep doing these !!
@marcluu2433
@marcluu2433 3 года назад
The quality of the video is very impressive
@christophermulligan3258
@christophermulligan3258 3 года назад
Your videos are fantastic.
@sixty8ight
@sixty8ight Год назад
I will always love the Burger King. Stinger logo was pretty great too.
@stenzo101
@stenzo101 3 года назад
absolutely fantastic
@BlueShoeMagoo
@BlueShoeMagoo 3 года назад
Been following Icethetics since the .info days. Great content as always! 👍
@icethetics
@icethetics 3 года назад
That's a long time! Thanks Paul!
@GoodMenstruationAttitude
@GoodMenstruationAttitude 3 года назад
Love that original Hurricanes cH design. The whole outlook for the team would have been entirely different, fashionwise. Kinda gothy ffvii inspired. Would've sent shockwaves for sure! The branding they went with surely has alienated out of market fans. Imagine an all-black with bright eyeslits/highlights look for the Panthers. Would've been the most popular jersey ever.
@KO-eu6jv
@KO-eu6jv 2 года назад
Sign my petition to make the Panthers change their name to the Blockbusters, or perhaps get a third jersey with that concept. That logo and jersey are too sweet to be lost to history. Seriously, i want to live in a universe where that is what we got instead. Especially knowing how Blockbuster has aged since then, the team would be an amazing relic of the past that would outlive its core brand.
@0yal569
@0yal569 3 года назад
better quality than NHL channel's stuff
@Youre-Welcome
@Youre-Welcome 2 года назад
Jeez there is SO MUCH to unpack about the Wild logo, and it got glazed over 🙆‍♀️
@icethetics
@icethetics 2 года назад
Right?! I could go back an do an entire video on the Wild alone.
@MrDaoJones
@MrDaoJones 3 года назад
Would love to see some history of the design of the New York Islanders Fisherman logo. Its a really polarizing one for fans and many still would like to see it come back.
@Direrain72
@Direrain72 2 года назад
huh....as a Philly fan...part of me kinda likes that teal idea. I think I coulda warmed up to that.
@wdnicolson
@wdnicolson 3 года назад
Great content 👏👏
@BarberSpider8
@BarberSpider8 3 года назад
We need more prototype videos!!
@rileymoses4311
@rileymoses4311 2 года назад
good videos man i like it
@AwesomeSause30
@AwesomeSause30 3 года назад
Hurricanes fan here. Kinda glad we didn’t get that anchor logo. It looks the nice but a little busy and not sure how good it would have looked with the red/silver/black
@michaelhannell4083
@michaelhannell4083 3 года назад
I know it's a hockey video but the old Patriots log is so much better than the one that replaced it. Plus I would love to see more sabers videos
@tgs2141
@tgs2141 3 года назад
I know Ottawa’s original Jersey was to have the Parliament Building on it
@Blades500
@Blades500 2 года назад
I believe green was one of their primary colors
@tgs2141
@tgs2141 2 года назад
@@Blades500 Well the jerseys had a Red, White and Black
@Blades500
@Blades500 2 года назад
@@tgs2141 oh shit you're right...my bad. I thought there was more green
@tgs2141
@tgs2141 2 года назад
@@Blades500 it’s ok😊
@buffaloben15golf88
@buffaloben15golf88 2 года назад
As a Sabres fan, the goat head, I thought was great. It’s kind of the same vibe as the metallic Nashville logo that I think Nashville should use again. So glad their reverse retro included it. I would love to see what the goat head and banana slug would look like if they merged right. The team needs to remind themselves what they were like back then.
@MoneyPheneTV
@MoneyPheneTV 3 года назад
Love this content
@tintinsimon
@tintinsimon 3 года назад
Amazing content
@raran44
@raran44 3 года назад
I don’t understand why a lot of people don’t like Phoenix/Arizona’s original (inaugural) logo and uniform. That uni with the Yote with the hockey stick is sick. Reminds me of the Keith Tkachuk, Jeremy Roenick and Nicholai Khabiboulin era in Phoenix. And I’m not even a Yotes fan.
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