Cumtown fans are pretty great fans considering they all know not a single one of them has to pay anything for the premium episodes if they don't want to.
Bull. There is a reason a "Vietnamese" person is taking these down off youtube. Its really Nick but he knows how hypocritical it would be to do it himself
Good point. Edit: Nick's takes often don't make any sense. He seems to be consistent on this copyright thing, unless it's him taking down all these channels and pretending to be some Asian guy.
I think there's a difference between being annoyed someone copied your joke, and wanting to send people to jail for doing it (Nick is still a hypocrite and I'm gay).
Its fitting that this is the only video on your channel. I'm playing this clip to the judge when I'm getting sued for stealing all of cum town's intellectual property
It's true Latinos share knowledge, it's the old "stop copying me" or the "I'm not teaching you how to play this game or you'll have an advantage over me, learn on your own" thing that kids do, fun suckers, knowledge hiders, desperate needer of attention.
The Mickey Mouse example is surprisingly realistic considering there’s a homeless native guy outside my pharmacy trying to sell color pencil drawings of gengar he made. one of these days i’m gonna buy one, when i don’t need every penny i have to buy alcohol and weed concentrates
As a songwriter, I know a lot about copyright law in the US. They only are upheld for about 70 years. More specifically for music works but I believe that 70 year mark goes for a lot of other copyrighted works. But what this does is it puts original music into the public domain after that time i.e. classical music (not including the recording rights), nursery rhymes, and religious hymns. Its actually a really nice system for both the public and the copyright holder bc the works can be exploited for as long as they want inside that 70 years, but then when it becomes public domain, the public can use it to their advantage too.
whenever I see a business named "II," I always presume it's a crooked guy from NYC. if it's a restaurant and it's nice... _stop asking questions!_ [/stav voice]
Owning an idea does seem pretty bullshit. Many things are not invented or thought up by only one person. Plus it's not a physical object you can posess, and any other person/entity also using it, is not stopping you from still using it. An idea being owned by someone, simply slows progress and prevents competitive markets. It solely benefits the rights owner, by creating another barrier to entry, for anyone hoping to compete against them, in that market. That's why the American economy and it's "free" markets have nowhere near the competition that China's markets seem to have, in my opinion. China don't give a fuck about your precious ideas. And then there's owing a song etc. Would the rolling stones or the Beatles songs not be known as theirs by the world, if someone didn't own the rights to their songs? And why can't they just be happy when people want to emulate them or take inspiration from them? Shouldn't real artists be really happy to inspire others? Though I guess record companies and the corporate music industry slaves aren't really artists anyway. Just money-hungry tools of subversion
I fail to understand how "simply slows progress and prevents competitive markets. It solely benefits the rights owner, by creating another barrier to entry, for anyone hoping to compete against them, in that market." is a point you make against intellectual property rights. The barrier to entry is a necessity for an economy to not be bogged down by unlimited shit products, like China creates. Quality is always going to be better than quantity in every aspect (except for probably initial pricing in most cases). IP rights also protect people's from someone ripping off an entire idea that's already been sold as a product, and then just copy and pasting the same exact thing without any effort put in to its development. If you're a writer and you've spent 3-4 years writing a book, and then you publish it, you're going to be dissuaded from doing it again if someone just takes that book and sells it as their own. IP rights by default preserve the time and effort spent making an IP. Ancaps and right libertarians always give tirades about "competitive markets" and how they're this miraculous force that drives innovations and progress...but that's just not the case. The failure of any form of economic structure is always going to be the ethos that follows from it. Capitalism in its current form strives to subvert the "classical liberal" ethos of the west just as much as those shit stain leftoids try to do.
@@Youshallbeeatenbyme Didn't read all that, but there's a universal right to access culture and information also you're forgetting. It's why we have libraries. We should have them for everything, with everything.
Nick is fantastically stupid in these takes. It's really hard to get things 100% wrong. You get just one thing right, people think you're an idiot. But get absolutely every single thing wrong? It looks intentional.
The point is that intellectual property law provides an incentive for people to create things. Without it, big corporations will be able to steal and then outperform any idea created by anyone. imagine if, for example, Disney stole cumtown and now nick and the crew can't compete because they don't have the resources that Disney has
@@skyricq oh yes, I'm sure there is a compromise to be made, but to simply remove the protection altogether would really stifle a lot of art and technological advancement
That argument kinda sucks because Disney ruined Star Wars. The product has to actually be better, throwing money at it doesn’t necessarily achieve that. Even the last few Marvel movies didnt make much money at all, leaving their production crews as screwed over as their audiences. This also ignores that the appeal of podcasts like Cumtown and ChapoTrapHouse are specifically in their independence. You would loose much of the audience appeal if you were a corporate clone . Look at the corporate podcasts for godsakes. Theyre so fake
@@ultravioletiris6241 Disney did not create start wars. George Lucas did, and his reward was the sole right to sell the property to Disney and live the rest of his life in wealth. Had intellectual property laws not been a thing, it's likely that star wars would never have been produced in the first place, and even if it had been, Disney could simply steal it and ruin it except this time without needing to compensate George lucas You have a complete and utter misunderstanding of the discussion being had.
@@marcello9476 How would Disney have ruined the whole thing in your hypothetical? If George Lucas Star Wars was actually competing alongside Disney Star Wars, then the highly inferior product would be even less in demand because of the existence of a superior product. It wouldnt even be representative of the Star Wars stories people are consuming if the other options are available alongside. The Disney franchise would be bankrupt if they had to compete with superior fan made projects and studios that actually provide quality. The whole reason their version of Star Wars was solvent is because the coercive state forces it to be the only version no matter the quality. I dunno maybe you need a different analogy or metaphor because if Disney stole cumtown and cumtown was still going, the Disney version would be complete crap by comparison and no one would buy it. Meanwhile people voluntarily pay for premium cumtown even though the premium episodes are out there for free on other platforms. So to compete with that Disney would have to make a free product? Is that a joke?
At the core is a false premise that more resources = such superior art that nobody can compete. This is not always the case and Disney is a particularly strong example of popular art not always being accomplished by throwing money at it. And a strong example of how the lack of competition around their intellectual products shields them from having to make them quality. Theyre source of revenue is predicted on a lack of alternatives. The example would be stronger if instead of Disney trying LARP cumtown, Disney stole the likeness and started selling merch. They have access to more types and more distributors of merch, and so would be able to flood the market with TShirts more easily . But more resources doesn’t automatically = better podcasts lol
Copyright laws work both ways. If a smalltime artist works hard to create something then copywright laws protect them from big corporations fucking them in the ass.
Except the scale is already tilted so heavily toward the big corporations that it really doesn't matter and would in reality give way more power to everyone else to get rid of the protection.
Big corporations get big because of IP laws where they own the ips. Remove them and these “big corporations” that do nothing but buy up ideas would be reduced to atoms
Usually I can get a good laugh out of these guys taking the piss out of most things I like, 'cuz it's fucking hilarious. But Nick hit a real big brainlet moment here. There are valid times when IP rights are needed to preserve the time and effort someone spends coming up and creating an IP. They aren't just "ideas", sheesh.
Yeah, this doesn’t really stand up to even basic scrutiny. The idea of “owning an expression” is pretty fundamental to the operational standards of our society, actually. You can’t just go to a public square and start reciting Apple’s IOS code, or the GPS coordinates of nuclear missile silos. Certain expressions, arranged in the right order, can be incredibly important, and can often take a great deal of time and effort to construct, making them just as worthy of ownership as anything a skilled artisan might produce. A really good book, or a stand-up set, or a baby grand piano can all represent thousands of hour’s worth of human effort to come into existence, and you’d never think of wheeling a baby grand piano out the front door of a guitar center like, “oh yeah, IP is bullshit dog, this is mine- get over yourself”
lol true, what university do u go to btw it sounds cool. apples iOS code damn imagine some guy just starts reciting that yeeeesh! thatd be chaos in the public square!
The analogy of stealing a piano from guitar center isn't the best for IP. It's more like getting the specs and recreating it to sell as your own. Stealing from a company that bought the item for resale is physical theft lol
Nah it's just common sense. Why would I pay someone for something that can be copied infinite times trivially at zero cost to the original creator? "B-but the creator needs to be paid!" If the creators idea doesn't inherently benefit them then it was a shitty idea.
